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Zimmerman Trial Discussion
bloody spaniard Offline
#201 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
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Don't forget that Treyvon's folks will sniff out for any of his daddy's "jewish cash" & continue to come after Aztec Jimmy due to emotional duress, hardship, TW's small penile size, etc. Anything that will help compensate a shook up a respectable family of hoodies, white wifebeaters, and crooked caps.
DadZilla3 Offline
#202 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
teedubbya wrote:
lol good one. that's like asking george the animal steele to help you figure out the drag coeficient on a stealth bomber

Not as far-fetched as you might think. Despite what his brutish wrestling persona might lead the public to believe, George 'The Animal' Steele (real name, William James Myers) actually has a bachelor of science degree from Michigan State University and a master's degree from Central Michigan University.
Gene363 Offline
#203 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,892
Dayum! I am watching the prosecutor final arguments, apparently not knowing or forgetting a street names in Florida is a serious crime.
HockeyDad Offline
#204 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,219
Hispanics do the mowing so they should know the streets
rfenst Offline
#205 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,490
Papachristou wrote:
but he had so much to offer! I was disappointed that the cell phone info didnt make it into trial.


Evidence codes do not permit tearing down of a person's character unless that person or someone else has praised it or it has been "bolstered".Most of the cell phone- is relevant IMO. However, all relevant evidence is not admissible. Its probative (useful) value must not be substantially outweighed by unfair prejudice. Otherwise, people would be convicted on their character and prior bad acts, which isn't fair. I am disappointed too. It would have been game over!
rfenst Offline
#206 Posted:
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Posts: 39,490
Gene363 wrote:
Elected Judge, that explains a lot. Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall


I will take that locally any day over appointed. We can get rid of the bad ones and keep the good ones. And, we do!!!
wheelrite Offline
#207 Posted:
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I might come down to Sanford for the riots,,,
rfenst Offline
#208 Posted:
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Papachristou wrote:
I see CNN and NBC are now hopeful for a manslaughter or other lesser charge since 2nd degree seems an impossibility.


My fear is he will be convicted of manslaughter. Thankfully, it has no minimum or maximum sentence. Totally up to the judge's discretion (within reason). 2ND DEGREE IS A 25 YEAR MINIMUM SENTENCE.
rfenst Offline
#209 Posted:
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Papachristou wrote:
I see him getting convicted on one of the lesser charges for sure now. the masses must be appeased.


That is what I fear too.
wheelrite Offline
#210 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
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rfenst wrote:
That is what I fear too.


why do fear that Robert ?


who cares , really ?

It's a non issue in the big picture....

And, if the blacks destroy Sanford, the Gov't will rebuild it nicer ,like after Katrina..

It's a win/win...


"I don't care if the sky is falling. Just don't let it fall on me". ( Jimi Hendrix)


wheel,
rfenst Offline
#211 Posted:
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Papachristou wrote:
rfenst, what do you think of the prosecutors closing statements?


Highlights sounded scary, but filled with insincere anger. 2,5 hours is an incredible length of time to listen to one person. I feel sorry for the jury. I missed the rest, but will watch it on cable replay tonight.
rfenst Offline
#212 Posted:
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wheelrite wrote:
I might come down to Sanford for the riots,,,


We have an extra room and I have this little cigar collection you might like...
wheelrite Offline
#213 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
We have an extra room and I have this little cigar collection you might like...


cool bro !

do you have any weapons, just in case ?
dpnewell Offline
#214 Posted:
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wheelrite wrote:
cool bro !

do you have any weapons, just in case ?


I'm sure Robert has some pointy sticks. Sarcasm

Dude, you're from Texas, just take your own. Texas CCW is honored in Florida. You DO have a Texas CCW, right?
Abrignac Online
#215 Posted:
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Robert was wondering what your thoughts are on the judges inquiry regarding whether or not Z planned to take the stand?
HockeyDad Offline
#216 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
Robert was wondering what your thoughts are on the judges inquiry regarding whether or not Z planned to take the stand?


The judge is in on the fix. She doesn't want her house burned down.
wheelrite Offline
#217 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
dpnewell wrote:
I'm sure Robert has some pointy sticks. Sarcasm

Dude, you're from Texas, just take your own. Texas CCW is honored in Florida. You DO have a Texas CCW, right?


I do...

but,,,

The NSA will be in there and Reciprocity will be suspended during the racial unrest..

quasi martial law and stuff...

wheel,
wheelrite Offline
#218 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
The judge is in on the fix. She doesn't want her house burned down.


she is freakin ugly too,,

she looks like FGM with a wig and a black robe,,,
bloody spaniard Offline
#219 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
All I've gleaned from these sort of carnivals (remember the Duke lacrosse case?) is that state prosecutors may go after ANYONE in order to score political points. Beer
rfenst Offline
#220 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
Robert was wondering what your thoughts are on the judges inquiry regarding whether or not Z planned to take the stand?



Absolutely, positively, necessary in all criminal cases where defendant asserts 5th Amendment and declines testifying. The bigger more significant the charge(s), the more times the court should/must ask. In a case like this one, repeated requests are necessary to create a record so a defendant who is convicted can't complain waiver was not freely made. Now, the Judge's questioning became harshly pointed due to bad-blood between one or both of his attorneys and the court- but that is because they were zealously doing their job(s). Also, the court and state need to know to prepare accordingly.
rfenst Offline
#221 Posted:
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Posts: 39,490
wheelrite wrote:
cool bro !

do you have any weapons, just in case ?


Yes!

Baseball bats, yard tools and a blow-gun!!!
HockeyDad Offline
#222 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,219
rfenst wrote:
Yes!

Baseball bats, yard tools and a blow-gun!!!



I can bring real guns. We wanting handguns or rifles? I even got a muzzleloader that could be used if you want a more sporting way to shoot looters.
bloody spaniard Offline
#223 Posted:
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Posts: 43,802
Poor Aztec do gooder gained 110 pounds over the past year.
Hope he countersues for Jenny Craig.
Papachristou Offline
#224 Posted:
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Good article, I'd like to hear rfenst's comments on this.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/judge-in-zimmerman-case-pressured-by-obama-administration.html



The hostile exchange began when Judge Debra Nelson asked Zimmerman if he planned to testify.

Essentially, Judge Nelson told Zimmerman he had the “absolute right to remain silent” but then proceeded to demand he answer her questions interrogation-style while silencing his lawyers.

Defense attorney Don West twice objected to Nelson’s interrogation, prompting the judge to raised her voice and exclaim, “Your objection is overruled!” in a manner more befitting of an angry parent lecturing a child than a legal professional.

Both of Zimmerman’s lawyers appeared shocked as attorney Mark O’Mara asked under his breath, “what is going on?”

Several legal experts and observers said the outburst was unprecedented.

“I have never seen that in more than 30 years of court reporting,” tweeted journalist Kathi Belich.

Former Senatorial candidate Richard Rivette also expressed his shock at the judge’s behavior.

“This judge is an idiot. I spent five years investigating high profile capital cases defending people from the death penalty, and worked for the Federal judiciary as an independent investigator on other cases. No judge ever inquires as to whether a defendant will testify until the entire defense case is presented. If the defense rests and does not call the defendant then the judge knows there will be no testimony. If the defense calls the defendant then that’s when the judge finds out. They have to get through the entire case first. To see if it is valid after prosecution cross-examines their witnesses and experts as to whether a defendant SHOULD testify, which is decided in private not in public, and NOT on the record. By doing this, the judge has undermined a portion of Zimmerman’s credibility. He looks like he is waffling and this is normal judge/defendant questioning, which it is NOT,” said Rivette.

Respondents to the story at the National Review Online also expressed their view that Zimmerman was being railroaded.

“A fix is in from the administration to find Zimmerman guilty regardless of what it takes,” commented one.

“By demanding that Zimmerman respond to a question, after she has assured him that he has the right to remain silent, she is undermining his right to remain silent and making it appear as though he and his attorneys are not firm in their convictions. This judge is shameless,” added another.

Judge Nelson also ruled this week that Trayvon Martin’s text messages, which showed that Martin had been involved in fights before and was trying to buy or sell a gun, cannot be shown to the jury, which some suggested was another indication of an anti-Zimmerman bias.

Nelson also granted a request by prosecutors to block the defense’s attempt to show the jury a computer-animated depiction of the fight between Martin and Zimmerman.

She is also likely to allow the jury to consider lesser charges against Zimmerman in light of the prosecution’s probable failure to prove its case for second-degree murder, another indication that the state is desperate to avoid him walking free.

Judge Nelson has been very careful at every stage of the trial to dismiss evidence or testimony that could convince the jury in favor of acquitting Zimmerman.

Now some are asking the question – did Nelson’s aggressive outburst represent an attempt to prejudice the jury against Zimmerman?

Given the likelihood that Zimmerman will be acquitted, has Judge Nelson been put under pressure by the federal government to aggressively advocate for the prosecution, just as Supreme Court Justice John Roberts was apparently pressured to vote to uphold Obamacare?

Ever since President Barack Obama personally inserted himself into the controversy by declaring Trayvon Martin to be akin to the son he never had, higher-ups have constantly meddled in the case in an effort to secure a murder charge for a scenario that Zimmerman would not normally have even been arrested for under Florida’s Stand Your Ground law.

Indeed, ex-Sanford police chief Bill Lee told CNN yesterday that “he felt pressure from city officials to arrest Zimmerman to placate the public rather than as a matter of justice,” and that his investigation “provided no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman at the scene.”

It also emerged this week that the federal government encouraged and funded last year’s protests demanding the arrest of Zimmerman via the Community Relations Service, a division of the Department of Justice. Documents obtained by Judicial Watch show that the CRS was “deployed to Sanford, FL, following the Trayvon Martin shooting to help organize and manage rallies and protests against George Zimmerman,” spending millions of dollars in the process.

Given the plethora of threats by Trayvon supporters to stage violent riots if Zimmerman is acquitted, could Nelson be under pressure to secure a charge of at least manslaughter in order to avoid nationwide civil disorder?

If that’s the case, her apparent effort to prejudice the jury clearly suggests that a mistrial has taken place.

DrafterX Offline
#225 Posted:
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I never liked her.... Not talking Not talking
DrafterX Offline
#226 Posted:
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Think
can the prosecution call for a mistrial..?? or is that the double-jepardy thing.>.??
rfenst Offline
#227 Posted:
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Posts: 39,490
DrafterX wrote:
Think
can the prosecution call for a mistrial..?? or is that the double-jepardy thing.>.??


"Double Jeopardy" is the right not to be tried twice for the same offense (unless very rarely required by the interest of justice and depending why the mistrial occurred).

Most of the time, a "mistrial" in a criminal prosecution prevents retrial under Double Jeopardy. So, one cannot be tried twice for the same offence, unless very unusually required by the interests of justice and depending on which party moved for the mistrial. There is no bar to a retrial if the defendant requests or consents to a mistrial. A retrial could be barred if the court grants a mistrial without the defendant's consent, or over defendant's objection.

If the mistrial results from judicial or prosecutorial misconduct, a retrial will be barred. If it occurred due to defense counsel misconduct, Double Jeopardy will not attach.



(Not all my personal work above.)
DrafterX Offline
#228 Posted:
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so , if he ends up getting convicted of something then I'm sure he will appeal. Can the next judge determine this judge was out of line and throw the whole thing out..?? Huh
rfenst Offline
#229 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,490
Papachristou wrote:
Good article, I'd like to hear rfenst's comments on this.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/judge-in-zimmerman-case-pressured-by-obama-administration.html



The hostile exchange began when Judge Debra Nelson asked Zimmerman if he planned to testify.

Essentially, Judge Nelson told Zimmerman he had the “absolute right to remain silent” but then proceeded to demand he answer her questions interrogation-style while silencing his lawyers.

Defense attorney Don West twice objected to Nelson’s interrogation, prompting the judge to raised her voice and exclaim, “Your objection is overruled!” in a manner more befitting of an angry parent lecturing a child than a legal professional.

Both of Zimmerman’s lawyers appeared shocked as attorney Mark O’Mara asked under his breath, “what is going on?”

Several legal experts and observers said the outburst was unprecedented.

“I have never seen that in more than 30 years of court reporting,” tweeted journalist Kathi Belich.

Former Senatorial candidate Richard Rivette also expressed his shock at the judge’s behavior.

“This judge is an idiot. I spent five years investigating high profile capital cases defending people from the death penalty, and worked for the Federal judiciary as an independent investigator on other cases. No judge ever inquires as to whether a defendant will testify until the entire defense case is presented. If the defense rests and does not call the defendant then the judge knows there will be no testimony. If the defense calls the defendant then that’s when the judge finds out. They have to get through the entire case first. To see if it is valid after prosecution cross-examines their witnesses and experts as to whether a defendant SHOULD testify, which is decided in private not in public, and NOT on the record. By doing this, the judge has undermined a portion of Zimmerman’s credibility. He looks like he is waffling and this is normal judge/defendant questioning, which it is NOT,” said Rivette.

Respondents to the story at the National Review Online also expressed their view that Zimmerman was being railroaded.

“A fix is in from the administration to find Zimmerman guilty regardless of what it takes,” commented one.

“By demanding that Zimmerman respond to a question, after she has assured him that he has the right to remain silent, she is undermining his right to remain silent and making it appear as though he and his attorneys are not firm in their convictions. This judge is shameless,” added another.

Judge Nelson also ruled this week that Trayvon Martin’s text messages, which showed that Martin had been involved in fights before and was trying to buy or sell a gun, cannot be shown to the jury, which some suggested was another indication of an anti-Zimmerman bias.

Nelson also granted a request by prosecutors to block the defense’s attempt to show the jury a computer-animated depiction of the fight between Martin and Zimmerman.

She is also likely to allow the jury to consider lesser charges against Zimmerman in light of the prosecution’s probable failure to prove its case for second-degree murder, another indication that the state is desperate to avoid him walking free.

Judge Nelson has been very careful at every stage of the trial to dismiss evidence or testimony that could convince the jury in favor of acquitting Zimmerman.

Now some are asking the question – did Nelson’s aggressive outburst represent an attempt to prejudice the jury against Zimmerman?

Given the likelihood that Zimmerman will be acquitted, has Judge Nelson been put under pressure by the federal government to aggressively advocate for the prosecution, just as Supreme Court Justice John Roberts was apparently pressured to vote to uphold Obamacare?

Ever since President Barack Obama personally inserted himself into the controversy by declaring Trayvon Martin to be akin to the son he never had, higher-ups have constantly meddled in the case in an effort to secure a murder charge for a scenario that Zimmerman would not normally have even been arrested for under Florida’s Stand Your Ground law.

Indeed, ex-Sanford police chief Bill Lee told CNN yesterday that “he felt pressure from city officials to arrest Zimmerman to placate the public rather than as a matter of justice,” and that his investigation “provided no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman at the scene.”

It also emerged this week that the federal government encouraged and funded last year’s protests demanding the arrest of Zimmerman via the Community Relations Service, a division of the Department of Justice. Documents obtained by Judicial Watch show that the CRS was “deployed to Sanford, FL, following the Trayvon Martin shooting to help organize and manage rallies and protests against George Zimmerman,” spending millions of dollars in the process.

Given the plethora of threats by Trayvon supporters to stage violent riots if Zimmerman is acquitted, could Nelson be under pressure to secure a charge of at least manslaughter in order to avoid nationwide civil disorder?

If that’s the case, her apparent effort to prejudice the jury clearly suggests that a mistrial has taken place.




There is so much B.S. in that article that I don't want to spend the time answering it right now because the jury has been out for one hour and there are social media assertions there has been a verdict. Some commentators are predicting the deliberations will only take tow hours. Other predictions are that the jury will deliberate until finished to get done with this...
rfenst Offline
#230 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,490
Papachristou wrote:
Good article, I'd like to hear rfenst's comments on this.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/judge-in-zimmerman-case-pressured-by-obama-administration.html



The hostile exchange began when Judge Debra Nelson asked Zimmerman if he planned to testify.

Essentially, Judge Nelson told Zimmerman he had the “absolute right to remain silent” but then proceeded to demand he answer her questions interrogation-style while silencing his lawyers.

Defense attorney Don West twice objected to Nelson’s interrogation, prompting the judge to raised her voice and exclaim, “Your objection is overruled!” in a manner more befitting of an angry parent lecturing a child than a legal professional.

Both of Zimmerman’s lawyers appeared shocked as attorney Mark O’Mara asked under his breath, “what is going on?”

Several legal experts and observers said the outburst was unprecedented.

“I have never seen that in more than 30 years of court reporting,” tweeted journalist Kathi Belich.

Former Senatorial candidate Richard Rivette also expressed his shock at the judge’s behavior.

“This judge is an idiot. I spent five years investigating high profile capital cases defending people from the death penalty, and worked for the Federal judiciary as an independent investigator on other cases. No judge ever inquires as to whether a defendant will testify until the entire defense case is presented. If the defense rests and does not call the defendant then the judge knows there will be no testimony. If the defense calls the defendant then that’s when the judge finds out. They have to get through the entire case first. To see if it is valid after prosecution cross-examines their witnesses and experts as to whether a defendant SHOULD testify, which is decided in private not in public, and NOT on the record. By doing this, the judge has undermined a portion of Zimmerman’s credibility. He looks like he is waffling and this is normal judge/defendant questioning, which it is NOT,” said Rivette.

Respondents to the story at the National Review Online also expressed their view that Zimmerman was being railroaded.

“A fix is in from the administration to find Zimmerman guilty regardless of what it takes,” commented one.

“By demanding that Zimmerman respond to a question, after she has assured him that he has the right to remain silent, she is undermining his right to remain silent and making it appear as though he and his attorneys are not firm in their convictions. This judge is shameless,” added another.

Judge Nelson also ruled this week that Trayvon Martin’s text messages, which showed that Martin had been involved in fights before and was trying to buy or sell a gun, cannot be shown to the jury, which some suggested was another indication of an anti-Zimmerman bias.

Nelson also granted a request by prosecutors to block the defense’s attempt to show the jury a computer-animated depiction of the fight between Martin and Zimmerman.

She is also likely to allow the jury to consider lesser charges against Zimmerman in light of the prosecution’s probable failure to prove its case for second-degree murder, another indication that the state is desperate to avoid him walking free.

Judge Nelson has been very careful at every stage of the trial to dismiss evidence or testimony that could convince the jury in favor of acquitting Zimmerman.

Now some are asking the question – did Nelson’s aggressive outburst represent an attempt to prejudice the jury against Zimmerman?

Given the likelihood that Zimmerman will be acquitted, has Judge Nelson been put under pressure by the federal government to aggressively advocate for the prosecution, just as Supreme Court Justice John Roberts was apparently pressured to vote to uphold Obamacare?

Ever since President Barack Obama personally inserted himself into the controversy by declaring Trayvon Martin to be akin to the son he never had, higher-ups have constantly meddled in the case in an effort to secure a murder charge for a scenario that Zimmerman would not normally have even been arrested for under Florida’s Stand Your Ground law.

Indeed, ex-Sanford police chief Bill Lee told CNN yesterday that “he felt pressure from city officials to arrest Zimmerman to placate the public rather than as a matter of justice,” and that his investigation “provided no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman at the scene.”

It also emerged this week that the federal government encouraged and funded last year’s protests demanding the arrest of Zimmerman via the Community Relations Service, a division of the Department of Justice. Documents obtained by Judicial Watch show that the CRS was “deployed to Sanford, FL, following the Trayvon Martin shooting to help organize and manage rallies and protests against George Zimmerman,” spending millions of dollars in the process.

Given the plethora of threats by Trayvon supporters to stage violent riots if Zimmerman is acquitted, could Nelson be under pressure to secure a charge of at least manslaughter in order to avoid nationwide civil disorder?

If that’s the case, her apparent effort to prejudice the jury clearly suggests that a mistrial has taken place.




This article contains so much BS and ignorance that I want to wait until after the verdict to answer your question. The Jury has been out 70 minutes and some commentators predict it will only take about 2 hours; and if not then they will work today through tonight until the reach a verdict.
Brewha Online
#231 Posted:
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Looks like Zimmermen is a murdering fool - and this kind of smells of hate crime.
From what I’ve seen, it’s looking pretty murder 2.
rfenst Offline
#232 Posted:
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Posts: 39,490
Brewha wrote:
Looks like Zimmermen is a murdering fool - and this kind of smells of hate crime.
From what I’ve seen, it’s looking pretty murder 2.


Wanna bet a five-pack he does not get convicted of 2nd degree?
dpnewell Offline
#233 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Looks like Zimmermen is a murdering fool - and this kind of smells of hate crime.
From what I’ve seen, it’s looking pretty murder 2.


I'm preparing to riot, if he gets off. If everything goes right, I should be able to get a couple new flat screens out of it.
DrafterX Offline
#234 Posted:
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dpnewell wrote:
I'm preparing to riot, if he gets off. If everything goes right, I should be able to get a couple new flat screens out of it.



are you in da ghetto..?? Huh
dpnewell Offline
#235 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
are you in da ghetto..?? Huh


Less then a mile from Camden, NJ. I could be in the thick of it, in a matter of minutes. I just can't remember if there are any appliance stores still open in Camden, so it may be a bust.
Brewha Online
#236 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Wanna bet a five-pack he does not get convicted of 2nd degree?

Wait - Your a lawyer! I'm an engineer!
You should be offering me odds . . . .
rfenst Offline
#237 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Wait - Your a lawyer! I'm an engineer!
You should be offering me odds . . . .


No.
You should be calculating the risk analysis and coming up with a precise factor after approaching the matter with "blinders" and applying linear logic...
dpnewell Offline
#238 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Wait - Your a lawyer! I'm an engineer!
You should be offering me odds . . . .


You drive a train? Cool. ThumpUp
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#239 Posted:
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Posts: 60,114
Brewha wrote:
- and this kind of smells of hate crime.



It looks like a hate crime to me too. Zimmerman was attacked because he was (presumably at the time) white.

It appears Trayvon was on a racist misadventure that went wrong.
8trackdisco Offline
#240 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
No.
You should be calculating the risk analysis and coming up with a precise factor after approaching the matter with "blinders" and applying linear logic...


It is Florida. Anything can happen- except applied logic.
Papachristou Offline
#241 Posted:
Joined: 10-20-2010
Posts: 845
8trackdisco wrote:
It looks like a hate crime to me too. Zimmerman was attacked because he was (presumably at the time) white.

It appears Trayvon was on a racist misadventure that went wrong.


you're actually right. Zimmerman just called him a punk whereas treyvon used racially derogatory language.
rfenst Offline
#242 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
It is Florida. Anything can happen- except applied logic.


There is zero applied logic while waiting for a jury.
DrafterX Offline
#243 Posted:
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dpnewell wrote:
Less then a mile from Camden, NJ. I could be in the thick of it, in a matter of minutes. I just can't remember if there are any appliance stores still open in Camden, so it may be a bust.



I bet there's a liquor store there tho... prolly pawn shops full of guns & ammo too.... ThumpUp



and don't forget da pharmacy.. Beer
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#244 Posted:
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I knew zimmerman had mentored two black kids but i didnt know he took a black girl to prom when he was younger......... definitely not a racist.


O'Mara cited his client's work as a mentor to black children and his having taken a black girl to his prom as evidence of his non-racist beliefs. "You didn't have to scratch very far below the surface to realize that George Zimmerman is an anti-racist," he said.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/12/justice/zimmerman-omara/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
dpnewell Offline
#245 Posted:
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Posts: 7,491
DrafterX wrote:
I bet there's a liquor store there tho... prolly pawn shops full of guns & ammo too.... ThumpUp



and don't forget da pharmacy.. Beer


I was going to mention that there are liquors stores on every corner, and that I could pickup some Mad Dog for Busa, but figured someone would scream racist. This is Jersey, no guns nor ammo in the pawn shops.
wheelrite Offline
#246 Posted:
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Posts: 50,119
I just bought two front row seats at the Riot on Stubhub,,,
I wonder what the opening act will be ?


wheel,
wheelrite Offline
#247 Posted:
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I just bought two front row seats at the Riot on Stubhub,,,
I wonder what the opening act will be ?


wheel,
Burner02 Offline
#248 Posted:
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Posts: 12,891
Anyone praying for a hung jury?






























Sarcasm
wheelrite Offline
#249 Posted:
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Posts: 50,119
Burner02 wrote:
Anyone praying for a hung jury?




6 broads,,,

























Sarcasm

Brewha Online
#250 Posted:
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Posts: 12,207
rfenst wrote:
No.
You should be calculating the risk analysis and coming up with a precise factor after approaching the matter with "blinders" and applying linear logic...

Wow, you really don't understand how engineering works at all, do you? LOL! What about the optics of gray hair assessment, mean time between management failure, or the gee whizz factor?

In fairness I there is one thing I fully understand about the law; nothing is understood!

As one gray haired pro to the next, this is your field - even money would be an unfair advantage.

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