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Abrignac Offline
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Obama administration using housing department to compel diversity in neighborhoods


By Doug McKelway
Published August 08, 2013
FoxNews.com


In a move some claim is tantamount to social engineering, the Department of Housing and Urban Development is imposing a new rule that would allow the feds to track diversity in America’s neighborhoods and then push policies to change those it deems discriminatory.

The policy is called, "Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing." It will require HUD to gather data on segregation and discrimination in every single neighborhood and try to remedy it.

HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan unveiled the federal rule at the NAACP convention in July.

"Unfortunately, in too many of our hardest hit communities, no matter how hard a child or her parents work, the life chances of that child, even her lifespan, is determined by the zip code she grows up in. This is simply wrong,” he said.

Data from this discrimination database would be used with zoning laws, housing finance policy, infrastructure planning and transportation to alleviate alleged discrimination and segregation.

Specifics of the proposed rule are lacking. Now published in the Federal Register and undergoing a 60-day comment period, the rule, "does not prescribe or enforce specific” policies.

But one critic says it smacks of utopian idealism.

"This is just the latest of a series of attempts by HUD to social engineer the American people," said Ed Pinto, of the American Enterprise Institute. "It started with public housing and urban renewal, which failed spectacularly back in the 50's and 60's. They tried it again in the 90's when they wanted to transform house finance, do away with down payments, and the result was millions of foreclosures and financial collapse.”

Some fear the rule will open the floodgates to lawsuits by HUD -- a weapon the department has already used in places like Westchester County, N.Y., where mayors and attorneys representing several towns, like Cortlandt, are writing HUD to protest burdensome fair housing mandates that go far beyond those agreed to in a 2009 settlement with HUD.

One letter written by Cortlandt town attorney Thomas Wood expresses a common dilemma.

"Cordlandt is mostly residential and has only a few vacant parcels that could be developed for commercial use," he writes. "In order to stabilize the tax base amongst the most affordable in Westchester County, the Town Board needs to encourage the development of commercial property for commercial use."

Rob Astorino, the Westchester County Executive recently said, "What they are trying to do is to say discrimination and zoning is the same thing. They are not. Discrimination won't be tolerated. I won't tolerate it. Zoning though, protects what can and can't be built in a neighborhood."

Also troublesome to critics is that the HUD secretary, in announcing this proposed rule, blamed poverty on zip codes – rather than other socio-economic factors that studies have shown contribute to poverty.


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DrafterX Offline
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I heard TW is being forced to move into da ghetto.... Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
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I wonder if it will be like a NFL salary cap. Neighborhoods will have a "White Cap" or are they gonna go the other way and have "Black Cap" neighborhoods as well.

Imagine finding a house you really love, making an offer, and then finding out they can't sell it to you because you're white. Right now that is illegal.
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Think
how will they handle interracial relationships..?? Think
HockeyDad Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Think
how will they handle interracial relationships..?? Think



They'll probably need a point system based on the specific races. For example, a white marrying an Asian will count as two whites. (Asians don't get minority status anymore.) Maybe a Hispanic counts as half a black or something.

I could envision a case where a neighborhood has "White Cap" space for a white/black interracial couple because there was room for one white but a white/Hispanic interracial couple would get turned away because they would count as 1.5 white points.

A tough one would be Indians (dotheads not casinos). Indians are very dark but are highly successful like white people. They're probably doctors, lawyers, or computer programmers. I think they have to be counted as white. Arabs and Pakis are probably going to have to be considered as white as well because they run a lot of convenience stores and small businesses.
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HockeyDad wrote:
They'll probably need a point system based on the specific races. For example, a white marrying an Asian will count as two whites. (Asians don't get minority status anymore.) Maybe a Hispanic counts as half a black or something.

I could envision a case where a neighborhood has "White Cap" space for a white/black interracial couple because there was room for one white but a white/Hispanic interracial couple would get turned away because they would count as 1.5 white points.

A tough one would be Indians (dotheads not casinos). Indians are very dark but are highly successful like white people. They're probably doctors, lawyers, or computer programmers. I think they have to be counted as white. Arabs and Pakis are probably going to have to be considered as white as well because they run a lot of convenience stores and small businesses.



What about an interracial person of polish, african, inuit, Mongolian, hmong, Pelasgian and pygmy (can't discriminate against wheel's ancestors) descent? How many points would they receive?
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is there gonna be a Tard Cap..?? Huh
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DrafterX wrote:
is there gonna be a Tard Cap..?? Huh

If only. They should start at the Federal government level.
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What happens in 10 years when white people are a minority?
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sd72 wrote:
What happens in 10 years when white people are a minority?



the CIA will start distributing Malt Liquor & crack.... Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
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sd72 wrote:
What happens in 10 years when white people are a minority?



We reverse the whole thing. Job security. (Think global warming-global cooling)
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Abrignac wrote:
What about an interracial person of polish, african, inuit, Mongolian, hmong, Pelasgian and pygmy (can't discriminate against wheel's ancestors) descent? How many points would they receive?


They're all white except maybe the African.
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Abrignac wrote:
Obama administration using housing department to compel diversity in neighborhoods

I wouldn't worry. Property values always skyrocket when HUD and Section 8 housing starts metastasizing into a neighborhood.
bloody spaniard Offline
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This is old news.

I remember subsidized housing in my last Maryland neighborhood before I moved up like a high stepper. Every 4- 5 houses had a Winston, Ruiz, or Chang. Aside from occasional lapses where they threatened folks on the way back from church who interrupted their football games in the street, they were rather well behaved. I gave away (and planted) some of my used azalea bushes to a black Panamanian lady with kids (and no husband) down the block who let everything die through negligence. She thought nature took care of itself. It felt good to spruce up her rundown place.
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This type of situation happened in the old neighborhood when I left in PIttsburgh. Subsidized housing projects where shut down in a neighborhood next to where we lived. HUD and the welfare system stepped in with subsidized and Section 8 housing to relocate residents in "affordable housing". Property values dropped immediately, gangs moved in, and shootings became an everyday occurrence. I got out and moved without any HUD or welfare assistance. I worked for it.

Wonder if the same thing will happen in the Hamptons?
In all fairness, apply this directive to the neighborhood Obama is moving to in Hawaiii after he serves a 3rd term. Let his cronies follow him there and see how he likes distributing the wealth then.
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Forced diversity is a beautiful thing. Are many cemetaries diverse. Graveyards will be next on the governments radar.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

Winston Churchill
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cacman wrote:
This type of situation happened in the old neighborhood when I left in PIttsburgh. Subsidized housing projects where shut down in a neighborhood next to where we lived. HUD and the welfare system stepped in with subsidized and Section 8 housing to relocate residents in "affordable housing". Property values dropped immediately, gangs moved in, and shootings became an everyday occurrence.

And yet the majority of people in and around Pittsburgh who are fortunate enough to still have jobs and hard working enough to own a home in a nice area continue to vote primarily Democrat.
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Those Bassards..!! Mad
bloody spaniard Offline
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Bones33 wrote:
Forced diversity is a beautiful thing. Are many cemetaries diverse. Graveyards will be next on the governments radar.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
Winston Churchill


Unfortunately, capitalism is turning into the old boys' club with opportunity only for those with money or power.
The rest can either suck up for crumbs or shut up & take orders from the drive-up.
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Unfortunately, capitalism is turning into the old boys' club with opportunity only for those with money or power.
The rest can either suck up for crumbs or shut up & take orders from the drive-up.



Wait,,,are you saying this is bad!?
bloody spaniard Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
Wait,,,are you saying this is bad!?

All I'm saying is, I hope my Guy Fawkes mask arrives before I'm using a cane...
HockeyDad Offline
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Think of it as a "Capitalism Labor Union".

Join and protect yourself from the institutionalizing of looting.
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bloody spaniard wrote:
All I'm saying is, I hope my Guy Fawkes mask arrives before I'm using a cane...



After seeing "V for Vendetta" at the theaters...I bought one on eBay...it's on the wall in my computer room.
HockeyDad Offline
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Buying one now would prolly get you on a "watch list".
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cacman wrote:
This type of situation happened in the old neighborhood when I left in PIttsburgh. Subsidized housing projects where shut down in a neighborhood next to where we lived. HUD and the welfare system stepped in with subsidized and Section 8 housing to relocate residents in "affordable housing". Property values dropped immediately, gangs moved in, and shootings became an everyday occurrence. I got out and moved without any HUD or welfare assistance. I worked for it.

Wonder if the same thing will happen in the Hamptons?
In all fairness, apply this directive to the neighborhood Obama is moving to in Hawaiii after he serves a 3rd term. Let his cronies follow him there and see how he likes distributing the wealth then.



Are there any queers in the theater tonight?
Get them up against the wall!
There's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me,
Get him up against the wall!
That one looks Jewish!
And that one's a coon!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
There's one smoking a joint,
And another with spots!
If I had my way,
I'd have all of you shot!
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HockeyDad wrote:
Buying one now would prolly get you on a "watch list".


No...it would get you promoted! Those occupoopers loved 'em some Fawkes masks!
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Problem with the mask is that you can't spit in their faces as they stand you against the wall. Can't give them the middle finger either if hands are tied.
DrafterX Offline
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who is 'they'..?? and why do you want to spit on them..?? Huh
jpotts Offline
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Teedubbya would never be forcibly relocated to another neighborhood. The citizens in the neighborhood he's be forced to relocate to would protest about their property values going down...
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