America's #1 Online Cigar Auction
first, best, biggest!

While I do deserve better I had to vote for wheel.... since his face is deek level to most grown men it causes problems.

Poor Drafter.....

I honestly find this to be the most confusing part of the entire gay/straight/trans issue.

I look at it as having four possible ways to go:
1 - Everyone has to use whichever facilities match their sexual genotype (ie, you may install a ****, but you're still a woman TW, so you have to let your schlong hang out in the women's locker)
2 - Everyone has to use whichever facilities match their sexual phenotype (ie, TW has to use the men's locker room once his surgery is complete).
3 - Everyone has to use whichever facilities match their sexual identity (ie, if you dress in women's clothing, you use a women's room regardless of your equipment state)

Of course, since Sexual Identity does not necessarily match sexual orientation, any statements about "straight boys in the girls bathroom" are kind of irrelevant.

I'm assuming everyone's panic is because people will see naughty bits of other people which they find attractive. If that's the case, then locker rooms shouldn't be based on the individual's gender at all. They should be based on what gender you find attractive. People who want to screw men, go in one locker room, people who want to screw women go in another locker room and people who like screwing either sex get to have lots of fun in their own locker room.

Alternatively, if you want to look at locker rooms as functional areas which are slightly specialized to match the gender of those using it (ie, tampon dispensers/urinals that sort of specialization) then they should be based on sexual phenotype (#2 above)

If you look at locker rooms as functional areas which are slightly specialized to match the needs of that gender's clothing (places to hang skirts etc) then it should be based on sexual identity (#3 above).

There isn't a good answer to this problem. But in all reality, there isn't a BAD answer either. What's the worst thing that happens if someone goes into whatever locker-room they're most comfortable with? They get changed where they're comfortable, then leave. If your comfort in a locker-room is based on who's around you, you probably have some problems of your own.

So you think it's fine if men go into the women's locker room?
How very short sighted of you.

" What's the worst thing that happens if someone goes into whatever locker-room they're most comfortable with? "

and

"If your comfort in a locker-room is based on who's around you, you probably have some problems of your own."


If we have to discuss the logical reasons WHY there are separate locker rooms for men vs women, then I'm gonna bail on this one.

But we do. You need to state EXACTLY what you want to achieve with the separation. That's the entire reason I listed the 3 points at the beginning. Because if you want to say "everyone who's genotypically male needs to be in on locker-room, then you may have some "boys" without a d$ck in your "boys" locker room and you'll have some "girls" with d$cks in the women's locker room. If you want to define it by what equipment you have, that's another level. Then there's simply dress.

But if your fear is that someone who's attracted to a person in the locker room is going to be there, then you have to split things by orientation, not by identity.

I don't actually have a problem with any of the choices. I think the issue deserves some thought beyond everyone's first (and usually stupid) knee-jerk response, but I actually don't care what the ruling is. It just needs to be arrived at thoughtfully.

commie bassards..!!

can't argue with facts LOL

Under the new law you can pick which restroom to use and which sports teams to join.

I can't see any reason why school-age kids will abuse this.

But schmart guys will wear a wig and a towel into the Gym showers ( And a little chocolate covered Hemp bar to get the party started ...)

Absolutely untrue.

Schools in Massachusetts are forced to allow the opposite sex to try-out for any sport when an "equivalent" is not available. Baseball and softball are examples of equivalents, so guys can't play on girls softball nor girls on baseball.

My daughter plays field hockey, and a local charter school has no "male equivalent" so guys play on that team and play against my daughter.
They wear the full uniform, including the skirt.
They are not pansy boys, they are big and athletic and play ice hockey during that season.
The rules have been modified to accommodate this: The boys can't score twice in a row, or something silly like that. If this is an attempt to force "equality" then it's a total failure by short sighted liberals.

Another story that I'm not as directly involved with concerns a local school with no boys swim team. Boys therefore swim on the girls team, and have been for over a decade. No big deal, right?
Well now some boys are breaking records. First school records, but what about tomorrow and the state records?
So your daughter who might have gained the attention of certain colleges by being the best on her team is now just a third place swimmer and lost in mediocrity.

So the next question is: Will transgendered boy-to-girl students be just as successful? Will biological girls be injured by testosterone laden she-males in the contact sports?

At what point is enough enough?

Yall have a lot of concerns. Good on you. I don't have time to worry about all that crap because I'm training to be a ringer in a knitting bee.

dictate

d i c t a t e

Bloody say my dictate goooood

Defeat Of Deduct went Over Defense before Detail..

I would be VERY comfortable in the copper tone models locker room!

Yes, but earlier your problem was with the locker rooms. Is there a third and fourth problem you want to let us know about now, so we can address it?

What, you thought the numbers were all one person?

OH NOES!!! Someone disagrees with me on something! They must be wrong about everything else EVAARR!

:)

that outraged enough for you?

Locker rooms, bathrooms, etc.

Competitive sports teams, especially those involving contact.

Nope.
I think that about covers it.

In the future I'll try to keep you posted prior to introducing related topics that deviate slightly from your focus.

In triplicate.

An aside....during one of my E.R. Rotations while a student we had a visit from a " woman" who complained about rectal pain....one of my fellow students was required to do the exam....she wentt into the room and we heard a SHRIEK....I went running in to find her sitting on an exam stool " FACE to Face" with the woman's manhood. .seems she had sat down and asked the " woman" to disrobe and he/she did so.... she wheeled over on the stool and spun around only to find herself eye to eye with the one eyed snake.....BTW the patient had a foreign body in his (her?) rectal cavity... That was the cause of the pain.......
God Bless her (my fellow student )... She never lived it down....we reminded her of the incident for the next 2 years until graduation, she was cool and continued to laugh about it....I wonder how she is doing now? 17 years later....I bet she still remembers that...

Prolly working with Drs. Apullalottadingdong & Wonhunglo in urology.