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Bush party daughter wants to see Hillary run for President!
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Barbara Bush Wants Hillary Clinton To Run For President In 2016 among other things...

In an upcoming interview with People Magazine, Babs jr. says she thinks Clinton is "unbelievably accomplished," and wants to see her run for president. The younger Bush has a streak of political independence despite her Republican heritage. Bush has already voiced her support for same-sex marriage. She also commented in 2010 that she was “glad” President Obama could pass a healthcare reform bill through Congress.

Despite numerous rumors, and the apparent support of a former Republican president’s daughter, Hillary has remained up in the air (yeah, right...) about whether or not she could run for president. And while she said she hopes the former first lady will run, Barbara Bush isn’t sure she would vote for Clinton. That would apparently all depend on who she would be running against.

Yeah again, right... Could be her RHINO uncle Jeb.

Babs has also partnered with the Clinton Global Initiative as part of her job as the president of Global Health Corps, a public health non-profit. Bush, a Yale grad, also partnered with current First Lady Michelle Obama for her Let’s Move! anti-childhood obesity initiative.

Are you surprised to learn that Barbara Bush would consider voting for Hillary Clinton for president?
Now do you understand why the parties have incestuously morphed into one while giving the facade of two?
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she was just kiddin..... Mellow
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We globalists control everything
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HockeyDad wrote:
We globalists control everything

Damn, I'm beginning to think that you and Michael Moore are right!!
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Damn, I'm beginning to think that you and Michael Moore are right!!


HE IS Michael Moore
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Bloody,

Everyone morphs when they come to Washington. If they arrive as idealistic, principled servants of the electorate, they quickly become self-serving Machiavellian zombies, interested only in getting re-elected by means of raising as much money as possible, mainly by pandering to lobbyists and whatever special interest group is willing to pay them off. Of the 535 members of Congress, I trust none of them. As far as becoming one party, that's not happening, as reaching a consensus is impossible, as it's every man for himself. If it were possible to elect a president that could truly lead both houses by example, we have a chance. If we elect yet another bozo, it will be more of the same.
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TarponMan wrote:
Bloody,

Everyone morphs when they come to Washington. If they arrive as idealistic, principled servants of the electorate, they quickly become self-serving Machiavellian zombies, interested only in getting re-elected by means of raising as much money as possible, mainly by pandering to lobbyists and whatever special interest group is willing to pay them off. Of the 535 members of Congress, I trust none of them. As far as becoming one party, that's not happening, as reaching a consensus is impossible, as it's every man for himself. If it were possible to elect a president that could truly lead both houses by example, we have a chance. If we elect yet another bozo, it will be more of the same.



They are pretty much in 100% consensus for increasing their salary, health benefits, pensions, etc... and getting themselves re-elected. At least until they "retire" and become multi millionaires working for super-PACs &/or hitting the lecture circuit.
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^ I couldn't agree more- just caught this prior to finishing post... and they pass these laws in the middle of the night like the common criminals they are.

TarponMan wrote:
Bloody,

Everyone morphs when they come to Washington. If they arrive as idealistic, principled servants of the electorate, they quickly become self-serving Machiavellian zombies, interested only in getting re-elected by means of raising as much money as possible, mainly by pandering to lobbyists and whatever special interest group is willing to pay them off. Of the 535 members of Congress, I trust none of them. As far as becoming one party, that's not happening, as reaching a consensus is impossible, as it's every man for himself. If it were possible to elect a president that could truly lead both houses by example, we have a chance. If we elect yet another bozo, it will be more of the same.


And why do you think that is?
Tarpon, term limits would partially solve that. Our founding fathers meant for politics to be a PART- TIME occupation before one went back to their REAL job. Take away well- earned pensions (snicker) AND cutback on the bennies- salaries, free lunches, vacations, cars, etc.

Then make Obamacare MANDATORY for them. (gasp)

Since we can't create good character, we have to tie their hands and make it as difficult as possible for them to exploit the working classes's with strange laws, unhindered illegal migration, foreign incursions, etc.

Bloody Engels
ex-Reaganite & founding member of Friends of Dan Quayle (strutting chest out)
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Term limits would be a good starting point, but getting it through congress would be as impossible as getting thieves to give up stealing because it's wrong.
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TarponMan wrote:
Term limits would be a good starting point, but getting it through congress would be as impossible as getting thieves to give up stealing because it's wrong.

How about passing term limits as a constitutional amendment with 2/3'rds of states support??? But it would require lots of legwork and I'm too tired from working around the clock.

But,
El que invento la ley invento la trampa.
Get the bas tards by hook or crook (loose translation) or there's more than one way to skin a polecat. lol
Perhaps there's hope in our youth... or folks who have retired early and can put their golf game aside temporarily.
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Tarpon, term limits would partially solve that. Our founding fathers meant for politics to be a PART- TIME occupation before one went back to their REAL job. Take away well- earned pensions (snicker) AND cutback on the bennies- salaries, free lunches, vacations, cars, etc.

Term limits maybe would help, maybe not. I've heard the argument that term limits would only serve as an incentive for elected representatives to scarf all they can from the taxpayer trough as quickly as possible. With a term limit in place they would even be spared the effort to at least look honest for re-election campaigns.

It'd be like telling a bank robber OK, from now on you only have 10 minutes to rob banks instead of taking as long as you need to without getting busted.

They walk like ducks, they talk like ducks, they're ducks be it for 4 years, 6 years, or indefinitely.
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Excellent point, Dad.
When we were in the Philippines for a short time, there were several political assassinations for some low level, provincial posts. Getting in office, for even a short time, means they can steal the country blind. Even Imelda Marcos was elected (and her shoe collection) to a national office, recently. Maybe the US will someday be able to perfect political corruption, as in the Philippines. We're making great strides.
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It's an interesting point, Dad, but I disagree. It may apply to the Weiners of the world who will lie and steal when unwatched, but I happen to have more faith in people in that I agree with Tarpon that it is the LONG duration of time which corrupts most decent people in public office. In time, they begin to believe that they are an entitled, ruling class. An aristocracy of sorts.

We shouldn't be afraid to "lose" this diseased brain drain. It's their administrative staffs that maintain the status quo anyway not the electees. In time, these rotten apple, career hucksters should be tossed as well.

No, I think that if it's corruption we fear, we have to make an example of a few of them. Make impeachment easier, perhaps discharge/jail their support staffs, etc. but term limits should stay. Many of our best politicians practiced this voluntarily.

And if we can't implement any of the aforementioned suggestions, what is happening right now in Egypt will happen here within our lifetimes.
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DadZilla3 wrote:
Term limits maybe would help, maybe not. I've heard the argument that term limits would only serve as an incentive for elected representatives to scarf all they can from the taxpayer trough as quickly as possible. With a term limit in place they would even be spared the effort to at least look honest for re-election campaigns.

It'd be like telling a bank robber OK, from now on you only have 10 minutes to rob banks instead of taking as long as you need to without getting busted.

They walk like ducks, they talk like ducks, they're ducks be it for 4 years, 6 years, or indefinitely.


another solution is the repeal of the 17th amendment,,,
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^ why? (don't know the 17th amendment)
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it's the one right before the 18th.... Mellow
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bloody spaniard wrote:
^ why? (don't know the 17th amendment)


The Seventeenth Amendment, adopted on May 31, 1913, changed the manner in which United States senators were elected. Formerly elected to office by state legislatures, the Seventeenth Amendment provided for a constitutional mandate that United States senators be elected by the popular vote of the citizens of each state. It also provided for unexpected vacancies in senatorial seats due to various reasons, including the death of a senator, by allowing the governor of the affected state to appoint a senator until a special election can be held.
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Let'sget back to the Bush (if I may call her that). This is the ugly one, right? I never got the impression she was the "party girl" of the two...
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So Bush's daughter is supporting Hillary? Just goes to show that the "stupid" apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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dpnewell wrote:
So Bush's daughter is supporting Hillary? Just goes to show that the "stupid" apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

stop making sense.
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TarponMan wrote:
Term limits would be a good starting point, but getting it through congress would be as impossible as getting thieves to give up stealing because it's wrong.



Yes...term limits.

When they fulfill them...bullet to the back of their head. That will stop the lobbyists.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
That will stop the lobbyists.


Lobbyists...yet another blight in our representative government. Seems to me, special interest lobbying of elected officials should be as illegal as jury tampering is (supposed to be) in our judicial system.
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Lobbyists, perennial congressional support staffs... the whole lot contribute to the systemic root rot.

rfenst wrote:
Let'sget back to the Bush (if I may call her that). This is the ugly one, right? I never got the impression she was the "party girl" of the two...


They're twins but one looks like a blond, pie pan-faced Dubya Bush. The other like a slightly off Laura Bush. I'm referring to the slightly off brunette who seems to idolize the Clintons.

Truth be told, I think they were BOTH drunks and continue to be so until recently anyway. Their male counterparts as well.
The gals told Maliqua and Shaniqua that the 8 years will go by fast & that they should fill the White House with laughter and dry heaves. I would hope the current residents, Managua and Saffron, love their country as much as their mammy moo by now. We spoil them enough- fancy dresses, private schools, chauffeurs, & rhinestone/leopard prayer rugs. Not long ago they would have been cleaning rooms and preparing ice teas in white uniforms as they listened to Petey Green.
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Not long ago they would have been cleaning rooms and preparing ice teas in white uniforms as they listened to Petey Green.

In this enlightened age, thanks to our many Great Society programs they'd be spared the indignity of ever having to work for a living.
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DadZilla3 wrote:
In this enlightened age, thanks to our many Great Society programs they'd be spared the indignity of ever having to work for a living.


And, your point about them and Great Society is? They aren't the only two presidential children whose parents are or will be rich/wealthy.
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rfenst wrote:
And, your point about them and Great Society is? They aren't the only two presidential children whose parents are or will be rich/wealthy.


Rich/ wealthy or not, in this enlightened age thanks to our many Great Society programs they'd be spared the indignity of ever having to work for a living.

That's the point.
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I'd say the Great Society gave blacks emancipation from parental duties while grandparents gladly stepped in. Call it a win win. Hallelujah! Gonz
Illegitimacy is at 73% but non-white latinos and whites are closing the gap FAST! They know a good thing when they see it.


But getting back on track. It does the heart good to see canoodling between Dems and Repubs.
Good for you, Babs. I hope your idols Jeb & Hillary continue in the fine tradition of self-serving governance..
Who knows? Mebbe you and the Chelsea can double team the country some day.
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DadZilla3 wrote:
Rich/ wealthy or not, in this enlightened age thanks to our many Great Society programs they'd be spared the indignity of ever having to work for a living.

That's the point.


So, by your line of reasoning, no "young person" will have to work. OK by me if that is your opinion.
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bloody spaniard wrote:
I'd say the Great Society gave blacks emancipation from parental duties while grandparents gladly stepped in. Call it a win win. Hallelujah! Gonz
Illegitimacy is at 73% but non-white latinos and whites are closing the gap FAST! They know a good thing when they see it.


But getting back on track. It does the heart good to see canoodling between Dems and Repubs.
Good for you, Babs. I hope your idols Jeb & Hillary continue in the fine tradition of self-serving governance..
Who knows? Mebbe you and the Chelsea can double team the country some day.


Historicly, black males/fathers were seperated from their families and sold as slaves. That to could be a factor from generation to generation.

Also, despite my disagreement with Jeb Bush on abortion, Schiavo, prayer in school and other "social conservative values", he was an excellent governor who has no business being compared to his ex-presidential brother.
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bloody spaniard wrote:
I'd say the Great Society gave blacks emancipation from parental duties while grandparents gladly stepped in. Call it a win win. Hallelujah! Gonz
Illegitimacy is at 73% but non-white latinos and whites are closing the gap FAST! They know a good thing when they see it.


But getting back on track. It does the heart good to see canoodling between Dems and Repubs.
Good for you, Babs. I hope your idols Jeb & Hillary continue in the fine tradition of self-serving governance..
Who knows? Mebbe you and the Chelsea can double team the country some day.


Historicly, black males/fathers were seperated from their families and sold as slaves. That to could be a factor from generation to generation.

Also, despite my disagreement with Jeb Bush on abortion, Schiavo, prayer in school and other "social conservative values", he was an excellent governor who has no business being compared to his ex-presidential brother.
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rfenst wrote:
Historicly, black males/fathers were seperated from their families and sold as slaves. That to could be a factor from generation to generation.

Also, despite my disagreement with Jeb Bush on abortion, Schiavo, prayer in school and other "social conservative values", he was an excellent governor who has no business being compared to his ex-presidential brother.



That would not explain the change of the traditional black family unit with little illegitimacy to the HUGE jump in illegitimacy after the mid-sixties.
I think the more palatable excuse that the liberal establishment uses for the ever- increasing bas tards is lack of jobs... That's also debatable because they AND other poor ethnic groups had previously maintained a sense of family even under "great depressions".

The abortion & Schiavo issues notwithstanding because I consider them "public posturing" (phony) issues to solidify his base such as prayer, desecration of flag, etc., don't know much about Jeb except for seeing him on occasion on tv spouting off on immigration reform. I also believe he agreed with his brother on the foreign interventions, Wall Street bailouts, nice sole source (no compete) government contracts, outrageous prescription coverage increase to Medicare, etc.

May be a nice local bureaucrat for you but sounds like a typical RHINO to me, not worthy of consideration for anything larger.
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rfenst wrote:
So, by your line of reasoning, no "young person" will have to work. OK by me if that is your opinion.
No opinion, just stating the obvious.
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I object to this line of questioning.

The prosecution is going to have to show relevance. Not only that, they will have to show how these facts relate to the case.
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Megan McCain and Babs are gonna get married after they dance on the Ellen show and guest star on Glee. It will be fantabulous.

Biden will be the bartender and I hear he'll be wearing blackface.
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bloody spaniard wrote:
That would not explain the change of the traditional black family unit with little illegitimacy to the HUGE jump in illegitimacy after the mid-sixties.


See:

http://www.exposethetruth.info/2012/08/the-effects-of-fatherlessness-on-the-behavior-and-academic-achievement-of-the-adolescent-african-american-male-2/
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Poor Trayvon NEVER stood a chance...shudda took up racebaiting like Sharpton, Jesse and the Kenyan King!
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rfenst wrote:
See:

http://www.exposethetruth.info/2012/08/the-effects-of-fatherlessness-on-the-behavior-and-academic-achievement-of-the-adolescent-african-american-male-2/




"Ruggles’ (1994) findings revealed very little change in the family structure between the years 1880 and 1960. Both African American and white families showed a strong preference for a two-parent family structure. While black households were nearly twice as likely to be headed by a single mother as white households, at a rate of 13%, it does not give support to the theory that a female-dominant household was the norm coming out of the post slavery period."

"While the studies by Gutman (1975), Agresti (1978), and Ruggles (1994) may have slightly different conclusions, none of them decisively point to the effects of slavery for an almost total breakdown of the African American family structure in the latter part of the 20th century. There are doubtless many detrimental effects attributable to slavery that deeply influence African American family structure, but it seems evident that there are other, more current forces at work, both cultural and economic, that must be at work."



Sounds like slavery is not the cause.
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^ I agree but look at it this way, say what you will about the evils of slavery, it gave us the best athletes in the world!

Think

What's natural selection got to do with the Bush daughter or any Bush for that matter? They're the result of selective breeding...Brick wall
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HockeyDad wrote:
Sounds like slavery is not the cause.


Agreed.
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Confused Give up that easily? At least plead insanity for petes'sake!
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Confused Give up that easily? At least plead insanity for petes'sake!


Hey, when it appeared my hypothesis is incorrect, I admitted it. Gotta at least give me credit, don't ya?
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rfenst wrote:
Hey, when it appeared my hypothesis is incorrect, I admitted it. Gotta at least give me credit, don't ya?


ThumpUp Been there done that & will again.
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Barbara Bush Wants Hillary Clinton To Run For President In 2016 among other things...

In an upcoming interview with People Magazine, Babs jr. says she thinks Clinton is "unbelievably accomplished," and wants to see her run for president. The younger Bush has a streak of political independence despite her Republican heritage. Bush has already voiced her support for same-sex marriage. She also commented in 2010 that she was “glad” President Obama could pass a healthcare reform bill through Congress.

Despite numerous rumors, and the apparent support of a former Republican president’s daughter, Hillary has remained up in the air (yeah, right...) about whether or not she could run for president. And while she said she hopes the former first lady will run, Barbara Bush isn’t sure she would vote for Clinton. That would apparently all depend on who she would be running against.

Yeah again, right... Could be her RHINO uncle Jeb.

Babs has also partnered with the Clinton Global Initiative as part of her job as the president of Global Health Corps, a public health non-profit. Bush, a Yale grad, also partnered with current First Lady Michelle Obama for her Let’s Move! anti-childhood obesity initiative.

Are you surprised to learn that Barbara Bush would consider voting for Hillary Clinton for president?
Now do you understand why the parties have incestuously morphed into one while giving the facade of two?



This is what happens when the focus of your life is on your political career, and not on properly raising your kids. They get stupid, and advocate for stupid things, and make you look like a moron.

Just take a look at Meagan McCain...
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