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DrafterX Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 1:52 PM EST
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Mad


Massachusetts court hears Pledge of Allegiance challenge
Published September 04, 2013

Associated Press

A lawyer for an atheist family has asked Massachusetts' highest court to ban the practice of reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in state public schools.

In arguments before the Supreme Judicial Court on Wednesday, a lawyer for the Acton family argued that the words "under God" in the pledge discriminate against atheist students.

The lawyer argues that the reference defines patriotism as someone who believes in God.

Lawyers for the school district and another family who want to keep the Pledge of Allegiance in schools say reciting it is voluntary and students can leave out the reference to God or choose not to participate.

Last year, a state judge found that the rights of the atheists were not violated by the words "under God."

The family appealed the ruling.



Film at 11... Mad
HockeyDad Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 2:05 PM EST
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Sounds like somebody crossed their red line.
DrafterX Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 2:07 PM EST
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Seems to me they shoulda said something back when George Washington released the Pledge of Allegiance.... Mad
wheelrite Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 3:20 PM EST
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ya know, the word God didn't appear in the Pledge until the mid 1950s.


just saying.

wheel,
tailgater Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 3:27 PM EST
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Atheist offended by something that he doesn't believe exists.
Conundrum at 11:00...
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 3:31 PM EST
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Laugh
DadZilla3 Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 3:34 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
A lawyer for an atheist family has asked Massachusetts' highest court to ban the practice of reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in state public schools.

In arguments before the Supreme Judicial Court on Wednesday, a lawyer for the Acton family argued that the words "under God" in the pledge discriminate against atheist students.

I'm gonna go way out on a limb here and guess that this grievously offended atheist family votes straight Democrat.

Unless of course, there's a write-in Socialist or Marxist candidate on the ticket.
DrafterX Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 3:36 PM EST
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that's what I heard... Mellow
z6joker9 Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 3:39 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
ya know, the word God didn't appear in the Pledge until the mid 1950s.


just saying.

wheel,


It was added to defend against those commies.

Honestly the whole pledge is creepy and should be eliminated. Free societies should not have a loyalty oath. Public officials should recite pledges to their constituents.

At least we did away with the Bellamy salute.
DrafterX Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 3:45 PM EST
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I heard Obama hates the Pledge of Allegiance... Mellow
dkeage Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 3:55 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard Obama hates the Pledge of Allegiance... Mellow

They didn't have to say it where he went to elementary school, I bet..........
DadZilla3 Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 3:57 PM EST
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z6joker9 wrote:
Honestly the whole pledge is creepy and should be eliminated. Free societies should not have a loyalty oath. Public officials should recite pledges to their constituents.

You are free to not say the Pledge of Allegiance if you so choose. If you elect not to, you're not going disappear in the middle of the night or anything draconian like that. That's how it works in free societies like this one.

In fact, under the current administration, refusing to say the Pledge of Allegiance and getting some cheap publicity about it would probably get you a presidential commendation of some sort and an invite to dinner at the White House.
DadZilla3 Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 4:01 PM EST
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dkeage wrote:
They didn't have to say it where he went to elementary school, I bet..........



If they did it probably went something like this:

Aku Ikrar kesetiaan kepada bendera Raya Indonesia, dan Republik yang berdiri, satu bangsa di bawah Allah, terpisahkan, dengan kebebasan dan keadilan untuk tidak ada yang.
fiddler898 Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 4:38 PM EST
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Personally, I don't see why those two words are in the pledge to begin with. But I don't think that's a reason to withdraw its recitation in school. And yes, I live in Massachusetts.
bloody spaniard Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 5:35 PM EST
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DadZilla3 wrote:
If they did it probably went something like this:

Aku Ikrar kesetiaan kepada bendera Raya Indonesia, dan Republik yang berdiri, satu bangsa di bawah Allah, terpisahkan, dengan kebebasan dan keadilan untuk tidak ada yang.


...and a walla walla bing bang, my Indonesian brother. May allah endow you with stocky children who perenially teeth on your wife's wrinkled raisinets.


Drafter, don't worry about it. This country votes secular anyway and is in great shape. It doesn't need God.ThumpUp
ZRX1200 Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 5:38 PM EST
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No one should have to say the pledge and it was written by a socialist.
frankj1 Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 6:20 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
No one should have to say the pledge and it was written by a socialist.

the man knows!
cacman Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 6:29 PM EST
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Ironic that every piece of currency states "In God We Trust" and no one is screaming discrimination, refusing it when handed to them, or forcing a design change.
DadZilla3 Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 9:49 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
...and a walla walla bing bang, my Indonesian brother. May allah endow you with stocky children who perenially teeth on your wife's wrinkled raisinets.ThumpUp

One million thanks and may peace be unto you and all your cattle. May ten thousand fish jump into your rowboat and filet themselves in honor of your mustache.

But since when is Managua in Indonesia? Think
DrafterX Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2013, 8:38 AM EST
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DadZilla3 wrote:

But since when is Managua in Indonesia? Think



I think Steely Dan wrote a song about it.... Mellow
Buckwheat Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2013, 8:50 AM EST
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All of this is just plan idiocy taken to the nth degree. Bang Ding Ow.
bloody spaniard Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2013, 9:41 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I think Steely Dan wrote a song about it.... Mellow

Cranking out posts like that & you'll be #1 on the all time list in no time!



Dad, that retort is what makes you clever and fun. Some wackos would have gone berserk after my post. Applause
madbricky Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2013, 10:54 AM EST
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CBid is awesome!
DadZilla3 Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2013, 12:27 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
All of this is just plan idiocy taken to the nth degree. Bang Ding Ow.

Ho Lee Fook !
JadeRose Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2013, 7:21 PM EST
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DadZilla3 wrote:
One million thanks and may peace be unto you and all your cattle. May ten thousand fish jump into your rowboat and filet themselves in honor of your mustache.

But since when is Managua in Indonesia? Think




This was outstanding.....Bravo, good sir....Bravo!

Applause Applause Applause
gringococolo Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2013, 7:32 PM EST
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dkeage wrote:
They didn't have to say it where he went to elementary school, I bet..........




Yea they did, it just sounded like this:

I pledge;

My loyalty to the president and the Republic of Kenya

My devotion to the words of our national anthem,

My life and strength in the service of our republic

In the living spirit embodied in our national motto,

Harambee,

And perpetuated in the Nyayo Philosopy of Peace Love and Unity.
wheelrite Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2013, 7:45 PM EST
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As Hendrix said,,,

" I don't care if the sky is falling. Just Don't let it fall on me"



with Liberty and blah blah blah...


wheel,
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