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Taps86 Offline
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So do they continue to play games and shut down the government or do they ACTUALLY do their job!!!


jpotts Offline
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Taps86 wrote:
So do they continue to play games and shut down the government or do they ACTUALLY do their job!!!





Shutting down the government should be their job.

The government spends more than it takes in.

It wastes money in ways that, if it were a part of the private sector, would land people in jail.

You are either such a slavish devotee to someone coming in and telling you how to live your life, or a complete ignorant doorknob for not knowing any of this.

Shut it down.

Kill Obamacare.

Slash the spending by 20% across the board.
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NO, YOU SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT! - If the government doesn’t shut down over ObamaCare, who will get the blame? Seriously. With conservative activists demanding a goal-line stand on “defunding” the president’s 2010 health law, House and Senate Republicans are in a back-and-forth over who should be responsible for running out the clock. Not surprisingly, each side thinks the other should be holding the football when time expires on Sept. 30.

[“Whether we win or lose will be decided in the House...” -- Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, on “Hannity”]

Back to you, Boehner - One of the leading proponents of the defunding strategy, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, made it clear on Wednesday that he and his band of fellow conservatives won’t be able to block Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid from stripping out a “defunding” provision the House is expected to pass in a government funding bill in the coming days. Cruz has been trying to stir grassroots support for the “defund” movement, which some in the House apparently took to mean that he would lead a filibuster and engage in all possible tactics to hamper Reid’s efforts. Cruz issued a statement, though, saying Reid has the votes to proceed and called on the House to hold the line.

[“Those %$#@ers ran ads in my district over the August recess. And now they're throwing us under the bus?” – A Republican House member fuming to Fox News Senior Capitol Hill Producer Chad Pergram over Cruz’s statement.]


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/19/no-shut-down-government/

They doth protest too much - Part of the hope of House leaders is that the outspoken conservatives in the Senate will have to take ownership of shutdown brinkmanship. The fulminations over Cruz’s stance were so over-the-top that they suggest plenty of gamesmanship. This finger-pointing, though, takes time. And not only is there a government to fund, but a looming request to increase the federal debt limit.

[House Speaker John Boehner has a new video this morning mocking President Obama’s willingness to negotiate with Russian President Vladimir Putin while emphasizing his unwillingness to negotiate with Republicans on the debt limit.]

The takeaway - With the clock running and public opinion running strongly against the idea of a government shutdown, the Alphonse and Gaston routine over ObamaCare absolutism suggests that neither side of Capitol Hill is really ready to take the plunge. And while Republicans are bickering, Reid and Obama are making ready their unified front in negotiations: ending the automatic caps on federal spending that were part of the 2011 debt-limit deal, the so-called “sequestration.” House Speaker John Boehner will try today to rally his team behind a new ask – delaying ObamaCare for a year – but the clock is working against him.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/19/no-shut-down-government/?cmpid=cmty_twitter_fn#ixzz2fLiIXbf7
DrafterX Offline
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Taps86 wrote:
So do they continue to play games and shut down the government or do they ACTUALLY do their job!!!





isn't representing the 'People' thier job..?? Huh
Taps86 Offline
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jpotts wrote:
Shutting down the government should be their job.

Slash the spending by 20% across the board.


Yep, That's a brilliant idea!!!!
Taps86 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
isn't representing the 'People' thier job..?? Huh



Applause Applause Applause



I think they gave that up years ago....
DrafterX Offline
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well, I'm pretty sure the majority of the people don't want the Obamacare... Making sure it's defunded sounds like their job at the moment.... Mellow
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jpotts wrote:
Shutting down the government should be their job.

The government spends more than it takes in.

It wastes money in ways that, if it were a part of the private sector, would land people in jail.

You are either such a slavish devotee to someone coming in and telling you how to live your life, or a complete ignorant doorknob for not knowing any of this.

Shut it down.

Kill Obamacare.

Slash the spending by 20% across the board.




And if We The People had retained some degree of control over Our elected officials perhaps we could Fire their ASSES.....alas we have NO control over these Bastids

I couldn't agree more....shut them down
ZRX1200 Offline
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Jeffry 7

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Gene363 Offline
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jpotts wrote:
Shutting down the government should be their job.

The government spends more than it takes in.

It wastes money in ways that, if it were a part of the private sector, would land people in jail.

You are either such a slavish devotee to someone coming in and telling you how to live your life, or a complete ignorant doorknob for not knowing any of this.

Shut it down.

Kill Obamacare.

Slash the spending by 20% across the board.


Exactly. Congress should cross the 'red line' obummer drew for shutting down the government.
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Gene363 wrote:
Exactly. Congress should cross the 'red line' obummer drew for shutting down the government.



I like that... Laugh
jpotts Offline
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Taps86 wrote:
NO, YOU SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT! - If the government doesn’t shut down over ObamaCare, who will get the blame? Seriously. With conservative activists demanding a goal-line stand on “defunding” the president’s 2010 health law, House and Senate Republicans are in a back-and-forth over who should be responsible for running out the clock. Not surprisingly, each side thinks the other should be holding the football when time expires on Sept. 30.


Ummm…the healthcare situation was FAR better before Obamacare than it is now. People were complaing about a 10% increase before Obamacare, now they are sh*tting their pants over 30% increases after its passage.

Kill it. It is a pox on this country.

And if it means shutting down the government for half a year? Ok.

You think the military is going away? Or air-traffic controllers? Or the FBI will just close its doors? If so, you’re high.


Taps86 wrote:
Back to you, Boehner - One of the leading proponents of the defunding strategy, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, made it clear on Wednesday that he and his band of fellow conservatives won’t be able to block Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid from stripping out a “defunding” provision the House is expected to pass in a government funding bill in the coming days. Cruz has been trying to stir grassroots support for the “defund” movement, which some in the House apparently took to mean that he would lead a filibuster and engage in all possible tactics to hamper Reid’s efforts. Cruz issued a statement, though, saying Reid has the votes to proceed and called on the House to hold the line.


Yay! Boehner finally grew a pair.

(I say that sarcastically. He will still be a nad-less wonder no matter what happens.)

Taps86 wrote:
[“Those %$#@ers ran ads in my district over the August recess. And now they're throwing us under the bus?” – A Republican House member fuming to Fox News Senior Capitol Hill Producer Chad Pergram over Cruz’s statement.]


Now they know what it feels like to actually vote for a Republican. “I voted for the guy because he said he was a conservative! And he threw me under the bus the minute he got to Wahsington!”

Cruz is about as close to a hero in Washington DC as they come these days.



Taps86 wrote:
They doth protest too much - Part of the hope of House leaders is that the outspoken conservatives in the Senate will have to take ownership of shutdown brinkmanship. The fulminations over Cruz’s stance were so over-the-top that they suggest plenty of gamesmanship. This finger-pointing, though, takes time. And not only is there a government to fund, but a looming request to increase the federal debt limit.


“Not only is there a government to fund”? The government is over-funded and loaded to the gills with waste and dead-wood that would have a hard time getting a job at McDonalds given their pathetic work ethic and poor record of performance. Fire them, and let them eat at soup kitchens for all I care. They took money from my pocket and p*ssed it away. That’s money that puts a roof over my kids’ heads, food in their bellies, and clothes on their backs.

Taps86 wrote:
The takeaway - With the clock running and public opinion running strongly against the idea of a government shutdown, the Alphonse and Gaston routine over ObamaCare absolutism suggests that neither side of Capitol Hill is really ready to take the plunge. And while Republicans are bickering, Reid and Obama are making ready their unified front in negotiations: ending the automatic caps on federal spending that were part of the 2011 debt-limit deal, the so-called “sequestration.” House Speaker John Boehner will try today to rally his team behind a new ask – delaying ObamaCare for a year – but the clock is working against him.


I didn’t know that the concepts of right and wrong were subject to public opinion polls.

And “Reid and Obama are making ready their unified front in negotiations: ending the automatic caps on federal spending that were part of the 2011 debt-limit deal, the so-called ‘sequestration.’”? If I recall, correctly, when sequestration came around, both Reid and Idi Amin Jr. attributed that to Republicans.

Can’t have it both ways.

What, are you afraid your government EBT card is not going to get refilled after September 30th?

Sound to me like you are either a mindless hack, or horribly ignorant.
Taps86 Offline
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Sorry Potts!

I just copied this straight from FOX NEWS!
DrafterX Offline
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Fox News is Fair & Balanced... Mellow
jpotts Offline
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Taps86 wrote:
Sorry Potts!

I just copied this straight from FOX NEWS!


As if I care?
jpotts Offline
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Taps86 wrote:
Sorry Potts!

I just copied this straight from FOX NEWS!



Are you really that dense to think that Conservatives take everything Fox News has to say as being correct?
Taps86 Offline
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jpotts wrote:
Are you really that dense to think that Conservatives take everything Fox News has to say as being correct?



You just felt the need to attack me over someone else words.



And quite honestly. Yes. Yes they do.
Taps86 Offline
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And for the record I think the people showed what they wanted with the last election.
jpotts Offline
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Taps86 wrote:
You just felt the need to attack me over someone else words.



And quite honestly. Yes. Yes they do.



So you never posted this:

https://www.cigarbid.com...tta-love-South-Carolina

Taps86 wrote:
Just got this in an email from my Rep Joe Wilson!!!


As we look ahead to September, our nation has some very serious challenges ahead that must be addressed. This week, Congress returns to Washington with a full plate of issues including possible military intervention in Syria. Over the next few weeks, we will also vote on a measure to fund the federal government, which I will not support unless it includes the defunding of Obamacare. I look forward to updating each of you on what Congressional actions have been taken to protect American families in our next monthly update.



Enough with OBAMAcare already. It is time to move on and get this country moving forward.



Right?

Sounds to me like you got schooled, and are now backtracking.

Really now, it's not that difficult to learn a useful trade at a technical or vocational school. Seriously, you might find being productive to actually be a life-changing experience...
jpotts Offline
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Taps86 wrote:
And for the record I think the people showed what they wanted with the last election.



You are so right.

Just ask Code Pink what they think of Idi Amin Jr.'s Syria stance, and the Trumpka about virtues of Obamacare.

You are really such a open fool, it's not even funny.
jpotts Offline
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I think what's funny here is that people who don't watch Fox News or read Fox News (on the web) assume that a) Fox News is populated by Republicans, and b) that every Republican and/or Conservative slavishly follow Fox News and only Fox News.

Give that the place hosts notable left-wingers Alan Colmbs (sp:?), Shep. Smith, and Geralgo Rivera, it is an infantile assumption.

Just as cartoonish and infantile as the assumption that Republicans and Conservatives slavishly follow Fox News.

I guess it is very illustrative of the Tap mindset...cartoonish, and child-like...
ZRX1200 Offline
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Taps86 Offline
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jpotts wrote:
So you never posted this:

https://www.cigarbid.com...tta-love-South-Carolina




Right?

Sounds to me like you got schooled, and are now backtracking.

Really now, it's not that difficult to learn a useful trade at a technical or vocational school. Seriously, you might find being productive to actually be a life-changing experience...






d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

Boo hoo!




Where am I being schooled?

You obviously are a Typical Republican who feels the need to belittle anyone who doesn't agree or see Eye to Eye with them.


Taps86 Offline
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jpotts wrote:
You are so right.

Just ask Code Pink what they think of Idi Amin Jr.'s Syria stance, and the Trumpka about virtues of Obamacare.

You are really such a open fool, it's not even funny.



LMAO! This Guy!
Taps86 Offline
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OBAMACARE is here to stay!!!



It's not going anywhere. The old timers need to get with it and understand this already. Face it, The younger generation is going to surpass y'all here in the next couple of years as more and more baby boomers begin to croke.

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ZRX1200 wrote:
Jeff 28
Aidan 0



Trolling has to count as something. Right?
jpotts Offline
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Taps86 wrote:
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

Boo hoo!




Where am I being schooled?

You obviously are a Typical Republican who feels the need to belittle anyone who doesn't agree or see Eye to Eye with them.




Not sure if I am a typical Republican, but yeah I'm belittling you. Mainly because you're a dupe. And this one I thought was the funniest of what you wrote:

Taps86 wrote:

OBAMACARE is here to stay!!!



It's not going anywhere. The old timers need to get with it and understand this already. Face it, The younger generation is going to surpass y'all here in the next couple of years as more and more baby boomers begin to croke.



First, I am not a baby-boomer.

Second, if you represent the "younger generation," then it only goes to show what a bunch of morons are in that group. People said the same things about Medicare and Medicaid...up until those programs started running OBSCENELY over-budget from one year to the next. I think it was LBJ that promised that Medicare would only cost 9 billion by the 1990s. The actual cost was something like 300 billion, and it kept getting worse with each successive year.

And now to fix these programs, we now have this all-encompassing Obamacare which penalizes the young far greater than the old (Taps, you are such a sap for supporting this), while at the some time providing death panels for the elderly and the ill (Rickamaven is gonna get his if this is allowed to stay). Now they are looking into people's sexual histories, for which they will start limiting coverage on people who participate in "risky sexual behavior." So that means gays are eventually going to get the shaft as well.


Well...at least Wheel will fee like he got lucky...

So yeah, it very well may be here to stay. And while I may be doomed by it in one form or the other, I'm gonna laugh at you from my deathbed while the monster idiots like you created chokes the living life out of people that fed it in the first place.

So go ahead and "surpass" me. At one point or another the bill for this monstrosity will come due, and "y'all" are the saps who are going to have to pay for it. This is the same idiocy that thought that real estate was a "safe bet" because it "always" appreciates in value.
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Maybe the Republican party should have selected someone better to run against Obama???

Then you would be living in a far better off WORLD!!!

Taps86 Offline
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We would be at WAR by now though with Iran or Syria. So I don't want to hear that **** about MONEY MONEY MONEY!!!
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Safety net pyramid scheme outrage!
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So war making has slowed down?

d'oh!
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Can someone update the Bromance thread:

Taps and everyone
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Taps86 wrote:
OBAMACARE is here to stay!!!



It's not going anywhere. The old timers need to get with it and understand this already. Face it, The younger generation is going to surpass y'all here in the next couple of years as more and more baby boomers begin to croke.





**** Y O U V E R Y M U C H fog


Considering that virtually NOONE who helped draft this or thought it was a aGOOD idea at the time want NOTHING to do with it personally....says VOLUMES
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TMCTLT wrote:
**** Y O U V E R Y M U C H fog


NO LUBE IN AND OUT RAGE
Taps86 Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
Can someone update the Bromance thread:

Taps and everyone



Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause
Taps86 Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
NO LUBE IN AND OUT RAGE



Just SPIT & a smack on the A$$
ZRX1200 Offline
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Progressives and insurance companies wrote this abortion not lawmakers. They couldn't even be bothered to read it.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Progressives and insurance companies wrote this abortion not lawmakers. They couldn't even be bothered to read it.



And the big corporations cheered them on. They are dumping their employees onto the exchanges in droves. Obamacare was just another piece of typical big government legislation. The poor get a few crumbs, the middle class gets shafted, and the uber rich benefit.

The greatest trick the Democrats ever played is convincing poor people and everyday liberals that they are on the side of "the little guy". The exact opposite is true.

Doublethink...."To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget, whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself – that was the ultimate subtlety; consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink."
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borndead1 wrote:
And the big corporations cheered them on. They are dumping their employees onto the exchanges in droves. Obamacare was just another piece of typical big government legislation. The poor get a few crumbs, the middle class gets shafted, and the uber rich benefit.

The greatest trick the Democrats ever played is convincing poor people and everyday liberals that they are on the side of "the little guy". The exact opposite is true.




Might need to have a Predator drone keep an eye on this one. He seems to not be a fan of the "Cone".
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Taps86 wrote:
OBAMACARE is here to stay!!!



It's not going anywhere. The old timers need to get with it and understand this already. Face it, The younger generation is going to surpass y'all here in the next couple of years as more and more baby boomers begin to croke.



Fine, better quit posting here and get back to work. You need to fund SS so I get my check. fog
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Gene363 wrote:

Fine, better quit posting here and get back to work. You need to fund SS so I get my check. fog


I'll take care of you. That's a promise.
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Taps86 wrote:
I'll take care of you. That's a promise.


Careful, I hear he's incontinent.
Taps86 Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Careful, I hear he's incontinent.



That's ok. We take care of our Natives...
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Taps86 wrote:
That's ok. We take care of our Natives...


Obamacare is here to say until/unless the R's control both Houses and the Presidency or it is proven to be a complete failure. Maybe it will be watered down. In the meantime, the R's will be blamed for shutting down the government and this will backfire on them. Serves 'em right for getting into bed with the Tea Partiers instead of moving towards the middle in terms of discussion and negotiation. Republican brinksmanship and threats of unpredictability in government services scare the hell out of most good Americans. As to the Presidency, the R's were desperate (again) last election and handed Obama victory. Could happen yet again if they keep practicing obstruction in the eyes of the people.
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but don't the polls say the people don't want Obamacare..?? Huh
rfenst Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
but don't the polls say the people don't want Obamacare..?? Huh


He was... re-elected. So, if polls show people don't want it something serious has changed in less than one year, I suspect their dislike isn't nearly as strong as their dislike of R brinksmanship.

Personally, i am in the process of renewing my personal corporate coverage and don't see too much of a raise in rates than occurs almost everywhere. I look forward to seeing what Obamacare offers and whether I will receive any tax credits or can buy insurance less expensively.
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I don't see it being repealed. In fact, I see Republicans making it worse by passing some sort of tort reform soon. So then, you're stuck with sh*tty health care, and you won't be able to sue your doctor for giving you sh*tty health care.
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Just digitize a few 100 trillion more dollars and all will be fine..
ZRX1200 Offline
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Yes Robert the R's should let dems run rough shot and NOT be an actual opposition party because BO and company have proven themselves as worthy as their progressive ideas have proven worth while....


Socialism doesn't work. Sorry
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Taps86 wrote:
I'll take care of you. That's a promise.


So, should I be worried? Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan
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