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Burner02 Offline
#1 Posted:
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“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, “the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006

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One would think that O'Blamer would have tried to do something about the problem.


Shame on you
HockeyDad Offline
#2 Posted:
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Bush is still doing a crappy job as our leader.
dharbolt Offline
#3 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Bush is still doing a crappy job as our leader.



No way it's all Regan's fault.
Liar
Abrignac Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 02-24-2012
Posts: 17,327
Burner02 wrote:
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, “the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006

Snopes verified.


One would think that O'Blamer would have tried to do something about the problem.


Shame on you



Debt went form ~$12.1T to ~16.7T under Obama.
Abrignac Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 02-24-2012
Posts: 17,327
Obama Plans to Slash U.S. Budget Deficit by 2013 (Update1)

By Hans Nichols and Nadine Elsibai - February 22, 2009 14:52 EST

Feb. 22 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama plans to increase taxes on the wealthy and cut spending for the war in Iraq as part of a plan to slash the U.S. budget deficit to $533 billion by the end of his first term, according to an administration official.

Obama wants to reduce the deficit because he’s concerned that over time, federal borrowing will make it harder for the economy to grow and create jobs, said the official, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

The deficit Obama inherited on taking office last month was $1.3 trillion. The administration is scheduled to hold a so-called fiscal-responsibility summit at the White House tomorrow, with about 130 people invited, including about 50 members of the House and Senate from both parties. An overview of Obama’s budget proposal for the 2010 fiscal year, which begins Oct. 1, will be released Feb. 26.

“We have been on an incredible spending spree,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said today on CNN. “So I think it’s timely that the president’s having a meeting at the White House tomorrow to talk about the deficit because we’re spending money at a very, very rapid pace, far beyond anything in history.”

Most of the savings will be realized from increased revenue from Americans making more than $250,000 a year and winding down the war in Iraq, said the official. The New York Times said yesterday Obama will propose letting President George W. Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy lapse in 2010.

Barbour Objections

“I don’t think there’s an economist in the United States that thinks when you’re trying to get out of a recession and to create jobs, you ought to raise taxes,” Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour, a Republican, said on CNN’s “State of the Union” program today.

Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, a Republican, said investors won’t respond well to an Obama administration plan for higher taxes. “Wait ‘til you see the markets’ reaction to what he unveils later this week,” he said.

Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor, Ed Rendell, appearing on “Fox News Sunday,” disagreed. The idea that “raising taxes on the richest people” will harm the economy is “rubbish and it ignores history,” he said.

‘Same Arguments’

“We heard these same arguments when Bill Clinton raised taxes on the top 2 percent of the richest people in America to get rid of the deficit,” Rendell said. “He got rid of the deficit. And guess what happened? We produced 24 million new jobs. We had the eight years that were the most successful in the second half economically of the 20th century.”

To increase revenue, Obama will also propose taxing the investment income of hedge-fund and private-equity partners at ordinary tax rates, which are now as high as 35 percent and may rise to 39.6 percent under the administration’s plan, the Times reported yesterday. They are currently taxed at the capital-gains rate of as much as 15 percent.

Obama promised during the campaign that he would slash federal programs that weren’t working. “The president has said he can’t kick the can down the road anymore,” Kenneth Baer, spokesman for the White House budget office, said last week.

The $1.3 trillion deficit Obama inherited equals 9.2 percent of gross domestic product, said the administration official. The administration’s budget proposal cuts the deficit to 3 percent of GDP by 2013, at the end of Obama’s first term.

Workers’ Paychecks

Obama yesterday talked about the importance of reining in the ballooning federal deficit in his weekly address. He said the Treasury Department will begin ordering employers today to cut taxes taken from workers’ paychecks as part of his effort to pull the economy out of a recession.

The president said a “typical” family will start getting at least an extra $65 a month by April 1 as a result of the $787 billion stimulus package he signed into law this week. He said the measure is only a “first step.”

The president has also pledged $275 billion to help struggling homeowners avoid foreclosure and plans to announce measures to stabilize banks. Companies from General Motors Corp. to Alcoa Inc. are slashing jobs and cutting production as the recession threatens to become the worst slump in the postwar era.

Falling Home Sales

Government reports this week are likely to show sales of new homes plunged to a record low in January while durable goods orders dropped for a sixth month, economists said.

A Feb. 26 Commerce Department report will show new-home sales fell to 324,000 on an annual basis, according to the median estimate of economists surveyed by Bloomberg News. The same day, the department may report demand for goods meant to last several years dropped 2.5 percent.

A surge in foreclosures and plummeting demand for homes has depressed prices, sending the S&P/Case-Shiller 20-city home price index down 18.3 percent in December from a year earlier, according to a separate Bloomberg survey. Meanwhile, shrinking household worth pushed auto sales in January to the lowest level in more than 26 years, and factories are scaling back production as demand from consumers and businesses erodes.

For Related News and Information:

To contact the reporter on this story: Hans Nichols in Washington at [email protected]

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Jim Kirk at [email protected]











http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aei7Fn0ISrwo&refer=news
Kidmd Offline
#6 Posted:
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"You gotta pass it to find out what's in it!"..

Nancy Pelosi quote concerning Obamacare.

POOPes verified...
Abrignac Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 02-24-2012
Posts: 17,327
Kidmd wrote:
"You gotta pass it to find out what's in it!"..

Nancy Pelosi quote concerning Obamacare.

POOPes verified...



Youtube as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV7dDSgbaQ0
dkeage Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 03-05-2004
Posts: 15,155
You just wait....when the new generation of politicians come in to control, it will be mucho bueno.......







Frying pan Brick wall Sarcasm
DadZilla3 Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
dharbolt wrote:
No way it's all Regan's fault.
Liar

Actually it's all Millard Fillmore's fault. Those Whigs don't give a damn about the chirrun, the poor, or the working man. They only care about taking care of their wealthy tycoon buddies in the whaling, railroad, and telegraph industries.
borndead1 Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 11-07-2006
Posts: 5,216
Full speech:

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies.

Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion.That is trillion with a T. That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President's budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion.

Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we'll spend on Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America.

And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on.

Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America's priorities."

Senator Barack Obama
Senate Floor Speech on Public Debt
March 16, 2006
frankj1 Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,223
gotta admit he was correct...
TMCTLT Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
Kidmd wrote:
"You gotta pass it to find out what's in it!"..

Nancy Pelosi quote concerning Obamacare.

POOPes verified...




THIS IS the quote of the New Millenium!!!!!! horse
bobsnook Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 10-02-2006
Posts: 279
sen. everit dirkson once said ' I can not give you a direct answer for it would be a prejudgement on an issue in which testimony is yet to be taken. the question was 'how is the weather? fubar that's the word all right and fubar for a long time
HockeyDad Offline
#14 Posted:
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Posts: 46,163
frankj1 wrote:
gotta admit he was correct...



Right up until the point that he got handed the car keys!
Burner02 Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 12-21-2010
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borndead1 wrote:
Full speech:

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies.

Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion.That is trillion with a T. That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President's budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion.

Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we'll spend on Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America.

And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on.

Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America's priorities."

Senator Barack Obama
Senate Floor Speech on Public Debt
March 16, 2006



And what has he done but add to the problem?
HockeyDad Offline
#16 Posted:
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Posts: 46,163
Burner02 wrote:
And what has he done but add to the problem?


President Obama added good debt, not bad debt like GWB did.
DadZilla3 Offline
#17 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
President Obama added good debt, not bad debt like GWB did.

Very true. And don't forget that the greedy Republicans are trying to prevent Obama from adding trillions of dollars more good debt.

No wonder our economy is in such bad shape.
frankj1 Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
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HockeyDad wrote:
Right up until the point that he got handed the car keys!

for sure. his words were correct when said and would still be correct. I was not endorsing actions taken, just stating the ironic truth of his speech.
TheSmokensip Offline
#19 Posted:
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Good Debt ftw.
cacman Offline
#20 Posted:
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Good debt - Bad Debt?
Debt of any kind is bad.
Don't spend what you don't have. If you are spending within your means, then there's no reason to raise your debt ceiling.
Saying you need to raise the debt ceiling to cover money already overspent doesn't cut any salt with me.
That would be like calling your credit card company after you max out your card and can't afford to make the payments, and asking for a credit increase so you can spend more.

Obama will say and do anything to get into office, keep his power, and continue with his Socialist agenda for America.
Take him out of office now!
TMCTLT Offline
#21 Posted:
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
frankj1 wrote:
for sure. his words were correct when said and would still be correct. I was not endorsing actions taken, just stating the ironic truth of his speech.



His words were Empty, a Lame yet successful way to get elected not once....but twice. Until our elected officials begin to write their OWN speeches.....they're empty and worthless IMO. What I'd like to know is why THIS man and THIs Admin. Isn't held to ANY form of accountability for ANything they do......horse
HockeyDad Offline
#22 Posted:
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The debt ceiling law should just be repealed. It is a BS law that has never been taken seriously and there is no reason to take it seriously anyway.

The Federal government debt ceiling will be set by the creditors. As long as people/401Ks./pensions.Asians/foreign banks/oil sheiks will loan the USA money at 2.35% interest, there is no debt ceiling. When they want 6-7%, things will be a bit different.
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