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mikey1597 Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 8:41 AM EST
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How much is this costing us?
dkeage Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 8:52 AM EST
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Everything....
cacman Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 9:14 AM EST
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New haircut, new diet & exercise routine, new wardrobe, and new biography specials about Moochelle's life on CNN and other news media.
My guesstimate is only cost us a couple Million, including my reinvigorated personal disdain for this woman.
mikey1597 Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 9:17 AM EST
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But she's entitled!
Gene363 Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 9:18 AM EST
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cacman wrote:
New haircut, new diet & exercise routine, new wardrobe, and new biography specials about Moochelle's life on CNN and other news media.
My guesstimate is only cost us a couple Million, including my reinvigorated personal disdain for this woman.


Sounds like she is getting ready for a new man, I'm just saying.
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#6 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 9:22 AM EST
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Gene363 wrote:

Sounds like she is getting ready for a new man, I'm just saying.



She would have to have one first to get a new one. All she has right now is a POS, not a man.
TMCTLT Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 9:50 AM EST
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mikey1597 wrote:
She would have to have one first to get a new one. All she has right now is a POS, not a man.



She likes that they can swap clothes like her other girlfriends.......Sarcasm
His / her soccer Mom jeans are the MOO's favorites
Gene363 Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 10:11 AM EST
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mikey1597 wrote:
She would have to have one first to get a new one. All she has right now is a POS, not a man.


Point! Perhaps she is tired of pegging him. jester
Buckwheat Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 11:13 AM EST
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I honestly don't understand why you guys have such an axe to grind for Michelle. I can understand about Hillary but Michelle really hasn't been too bad. Oh well. Carry on.
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 11:20 AM EST
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She's impacted more peoples lives than Palin, why did people hate Palin?
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#11 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 11:43 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
I honestly don't understand why you guys have such an axe to grind for Michelle. I can understand about Hillary but Michelle really hasn't been too bad. Oh well. Carry on.


Hey, ask Rick about Laura Bush. Seriously, she is the first lady and wants to tell people how to live = open season.
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#12 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 12:12 PM EST
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I thought this thread was about Michelle; not Palin or Laura. Nice deflection on both accounts. Never really had any problems with Laura but I think that Palin is a nut case.
TMCTLT Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 12:17 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
I thought this thread was about Michelle; not Palin or Laura. Nice deflection on both accounts. Never really had any problems with Laura but I think that Palin is a nut case.



So what exactly do you think the " Entitled " First Lady meant when she said " For the first time in her life she was finally proud to be an American " The First Lady of Racism " I friggin guarantee you that based on skin color alone....she was afforded more opportunities than I EVER dreamed of!!!
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#14 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 12:29 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
So what exactly do you think the " Entitled " First Lady meant when she said " For the first time in her life she was finally proud to be an American " The First Lady of Racism " I friggin guarantee you that based on skin color alone....she was afforded more opportunities than I EVER dreamed of!!!


How is this different from any other "Entitled" rich person? None of us will ever have the opportunities of the truly rich and powerful people in this world.
ZRX1200 Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 12:29 PM EST
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Not deflection at all if you retained the entirety of my statement Buckwheat.

Palin was hated as an unknown simply for being nominated. What and how did she ever effect anyone?

My point was the parallels of the two womens impact on Americans and the level of vitriol one has received despite one having far less real impact on anyones life.

They both are public figures and will therefore get ridicule right or wrong. Calling one a name based off an opinion doesn't justify ridicule to me.
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#16 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 1:00 PM EST
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Wonder if she got my card. I made it, chicks dig that kinda thing.
victor809 Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 1:33 PM EST
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I've been a bit disturbed by the amount of vitriol for a woman who's really done nothing wrong.

I'm particularly disturbed by the focus on her appearance.

To the best of my knowledge, Obama doesn't post here... and I don't think anyone else is having sex with her. So why do people who are never going to have any reason to care about her looks so focused on them? You will never, ever, in your entire life have the opportunity to say to Michelle Obama, "no thanks, I think you're too fat to have sex with". Your opinion on her looks is absolutely value-less.
TMCTLT Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 1:38 PM EST
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[quote=victor809]I've been a bit disturbed


You don't say.......:-"
I don't see you getting any better!
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#19 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 1:43 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
[quote=victor809]I've been a bit disturbed


You don't say.......Whistle
I don't see you getting any better!


I thought you weren't responding to any of my posts any longer.
Don't you have a manifesto to start drafting or something?
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#20 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 2:04 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
I honestly don't understand why you guys have such an axe to grind for Michelle. I can understand about Hillary but Michelle really hasn't been too bad. Oh well. Carry on.


Some people just have nothing better to do with the hatred in their hearts.
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#21 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 2:08 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
So what exactly do you think the " Entitled " First Lady meant when she said " For the first time in her life she was finally proud to be an American " The First Lady of Racism " I friggin guarantee you that based on skin color alone....she was afforded more opportunities than I EVER dreamed of!!!


Highly doubtful. And, its not her skin color that got her more opportunities you ever dreamed of. One makes their own opportunities in life. They don't just fall into our laps from above.
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#22 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 2:16 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I thought you weren't responding to any of my posts any longer.
Don't you have a manifesto to start drafting or something?


Hitler, skin-heads, the Klan and the like already drafted them for him.
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#23 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 2:18 PM EST
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Anyone one of these "hateful" guys here call Moochelle a NUTJOB KU NT?

Much here is bait or jest you see what you choose to
ZRX1200 Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 2:18 PM EST
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Oh Christ.....
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#25 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 2:38 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Anyone one of these "hateful" guys here call Moochelle a NUTJOB KU NT?

Much here is bait or jest you see what you choose to


Interesting...
I don't think anyone has used the word hateful in this thread other than you, not sure why you "quoted" it.

Anyway," nutjob ku nt" is a more appropriate insult in my mind.

When all the insults are about her weight, her looks, her arms, calling her "sasquatch" or "moochelle", it brings up a very questionable double standard.
President's wives are rarely attractive. Given they are usually in their 40s or older, they usually look matronly at best. No one is going to put Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, Hillary Clinton or any of the others in a playboy spread. Yet this first lady has gotten an uncomfortable amount of negative attention surrounding her looks.... when she's arguably at least in the middle of the pack in US history (seriously, look up photos of the US first ladies). She's younger than many, thinner than many, has a better body and more youthful face than many.

Yet all this negative attention on her appearance.

ZRX1200 Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 3:12 PM EST
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Keep in mind that people don't post solely in one thread based off of what's in it.

I quoted nut job because it was mentioned here the other part was from Rick in multiple other threads.

I actually agree with almost everything you just said Victor, a lot gets lost here because of the medium. Oftentimes here I use absurd things to point out absurd things. In the example of Michelle my absurdity is going off of the ground rules that Ricks set. To me right or wrong is in the eyes of the viewer. You have to allow yourself to be offended and personally I don't mind being offended at some time to change my view of things.

I have mocked her appearanceto also her willingness to control things that parents should. Does she really look like Chewbacca? No. What bothered me about what was posted above was about someone's opinion and beliefs compared to what soneone else has done. Do I agree with Michelle's politics no but I would not wish her to die or go away from the public I just because I disagree with her.

The other day I saw a bumper sticker that had the circle with a line through it and underneath of that was tea party. The idea that other opinions don't have a right to exist to something bothers me.
victor809 Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 3:28 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Keep in mind that people don't post solely in one thread based off of what's in it.

I quoted nut job because it was mentioned here the other part was from Rick in multiple other threads.

I actually agree with almost everything you just said Victor, a lot gets lost here because of the medium. Oftentimes here I use absurd things to point out absurd things. In the example of Michelle my absurdity is going off of the ground rules that Ricks set. To me right or wrong is in the eyes of the viewer. You have to allow yourself to be offended and personally I don't mind being offended at some time to change my view of things.

I have mocked her appearanceto also her willingness to control things that parents should. Does she really look like Chewbacca? No. What bothered me about what was posted above was about someone's opinion and beliefs compared to what soneone else has done. Do I agree with Michelle's politics no but I would not wish her to die or go away from the public I just because I disagree with her.

The other day I saw a bumper sticker that had the circle with a line through it and underneath of that was tea party. The idea that other opinions don't have a right to exist to something bothers me.



But that's the interesting idea. You think all opinions have a right to exist. Their opinion was that there should be no tea party... badum bum....

Everyone can have their opinion. That's great. But being free to have your opinion does NOT grant a person freedom from being told they're wrong, stupid, racist, mentally handicapped, purple, or any other trait their expressed opinion suggests. If you told me it was your opinion that the earth rotated around the moon, I'd have every right to tell you that it's my opinion you're an idiot.

TMCTLT Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 3:42 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Interesting...
I don't think anyone has used the word hateful in this thread other than you, not sure why you "quoted" it.

Anyway," nutjob ku nt" is a more appropriate insult in my mind.

When all the insults are about her weight, her looks, her arms, calling her "sasquatch" or "moochelle", it brings up a very questionable double standard.
President's wives are rarely attractive. Given they are usually in their 40s or older, they usually look matronly at best. No one is going to put Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, Hillary Clinton or any of the others in a playboy spread. Yet this first lady has gotten an uncomfortable amount of negative attention surrounding her looks.... when she's arguably at least in the middle of the pack in US history (seriously, look up photos of the US first ladies). She's younger than many, thinner than many, has a better body and more youthful face than many.

Yet all this negative attention on her appearance.




And in the end....it's ALL just your opinion....isn't it?
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#29 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 3:43 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Hitler, skin-heads, the Klan and the like already drafted them for him.



Pop in just to trash me Robert.....how sweet of you!! But then you've always been a very thoughtful PRICK
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#30 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 3:44 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
I honestly don't understand why you guys have such an axe to grind for Michelle. I can understand about Hillary but Michelle really hasn't been too bad. Oh well. Carry on.

Because conservative republicans are the poorest of losers, and man, did they do some losing in the elections the last two terms . . . .
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#31 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 3:48 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:

Palin was hated as an unknown simply for being nominated. What and how did she ever effect anyone?


Obviously you never heard her speak. But you should tune in now - currently she is doing her Bible Spice routine.
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#32 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 3:57 PM EST
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mikey1597 wrote:
How much is this costing us?



This should help.

watchdog.org - "President Obama and daughters Sasha and Malia left Oahu after 15-day holiday vacation in a beachfront luxury home in Kailua, Oahu.

They also left a pretty big bill.

The Obamas’ vacation cost taxpayers more than $4 million for travel, staffing, security, housing, car rentals and transportation of vehicles and a helicopter.

But the expenses continue.

First lady Michelle Obama extended her own vacation, flying to the island of Maui, where she is spending time with family friend Oprah Winfrey. Winfrey’s magazine describes the home as a “perfect 21st-century farmhouse” in a “remote up-country region, where the houses that dot the moss-covered rock hillside face the ocean.”

The president said he sent his wife to Maui as an early birthday present; she turns 50 Jan. 17."
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#33 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 3:57 PM EST
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[quote=rfenst]Highly doubtful. And, its not her skin color that got her more opportunities you ever dreamed of. One makes their own opportunities in life. They don't just fall into our laps from above.[/quote


Highly doubtful huh? You didn't say that with much conviction
You are correct Robert, it was a combination of skin color and the fact that she's a bottom feeding attorney of law.
That subject YOU are quite familiar with now aren't you??
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#34 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 4:34 PM EST
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Burner02 wrote:
This should help.

watchdog.org - "President Obama and daughters Sasha and Malia left Oahu after 15-day holiday vacation in a beachfront luxury home in Kailua, Oahu.

They also left a pretty big bill.

The Obamas’ vacation cost taxpayers more than $4 million for travel, staffing, security, housing, car rentals and transportation of vehicles and a helicopter.

But the expenses continue.

First lady Michelle Obama extended her own vacation, flying to the island of Maui, where she is spending time with family friend Oprah Winfrey. Winfrey’s magazine describes the home as a “perfect 21st-century farmhouse” in a “remote up-country region, where the houses that dot the moss-covered rock hillside face the ocean.”

The president said he sent his wife to Maui as an early birthday present; she turns 50 Jan. 17."



This is what I was wondering, the cost, not making accusations about her big asss or her baboon like features or the way her and her partner made their millions. I wanted to know how much their entertainment is costing all us poor folks.
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#35 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 5:15 PM EST
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mikey1597 wrote:
This is what I was wondering, the cost, not making accusations about her big asss or her baboon like features or the way her and her partner made their millions. I wanted to know how much their entertainment is costing all us poor folks.



We won't know actual numbers till they're tallied as after the rest of the family headed home....she extended her stay so as to hang out with the long time friend......the Big O
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#36 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 5:34 PM EST
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That doesn't sound very expensive.
She's hanging out with Oprah in her Maui home? Sounds like she's saving the taxpayers money. No hotel cost, no need to rent out an entire block of a hotel for security reasons...

what are you complaining about exactly?
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#37 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 5:55 PM EST
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secret service, entourage, drones, coast guard, war puppy-dogs... the list is long... Mellow
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#38 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 6:06 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
secret service, entourage, drones, coast guard, war puppy-dogs... the list is long... Mellow


Which exist for every first lady, and which need to be deployed any time she's not at her house.
She could spend her birthday in a shack in detroit and that cost would be present.

Is your stance that every first lady past and present should spend their birthday at the white house (and no fancy parties either!) because I'm betting that anyone with time on their hands could find first ladys travelling for their birthday.

Maybe if you jack@sses stopped posting so many things about how angry you are about the first lady, they wouldn't have to spend so much on security....
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#39 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 6:08 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
secret service, entourage, drones, coast guard, war puppy-dogs... the list is long... Mellow



Only for the entitled!
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#40 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 6:13 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Which exist for every first lady, and which need to be deployed any time she's not at her house.
She could spend her birthday in a shack in detroit and that cost would be present.

Is your stance that every first lady past and present should spend their birthday at the white house (and no fancy parties either!) because I'm betting that anyone with time on their hands could find first ladys travelling for their birthday.

Maybe if you jack@sses stopped posting so many things about how angry you are about the first lady, they wouldn't have to spend so much on security....



I was just answering your question man... geeeze.... Mellow
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#41 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 6:15 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I was just answering your question man... geeeze.... Mellow


Sorry Drafter... I wasn't referring to you specifically as a jack@ss.















(jack@ss).... :)
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Laugh
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victor809 wrote:
Which exist for every first lady, and which need to be deployed any time she's not at her house.
She could spend her birthday in a shack in detroit and that cost would be present.

Is your stance that every first lady past and present should spend their birthday at the white house (and no fancy parties either!) because I'm betting that anyone with time on their hands could find first ladys travelling for their birthday.

Maybe if you jack@sses stopped posting so many things about how angry you are about the first lady, they wouldn't have to spend so much on security....

Victor, the idea is to whip everyone into a rage. Your point that this is nothing out of the ordinary for a 1st lady is counterproductive. It's bad enough that we don't have any real issues to carp about, he you are distroying the illusion.

Get with the program, will you?
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#44 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 6:25 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Victor, the idea is to whip everyone into a rage. Your point that this is nothing out of the ordinary for a 1st lady is counterproductive. It's bad enough that we don't have any real issues to carp about, he you are distroying the illusion.

Get with the program, will you?


What's maddening is that there ARE real issues to carp about. Doesn't matter if you're right wing or left, the president has probably done something to piss you off... And was probably wrong.

He's not a flawless president. He's done a number of things I dislike. But all I hear is how much $ it costs for them to travel (no more than any other president), how fat his wife is (like that's relevant to a presidency) and other similar crap.
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#45 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 6:29 PM EST
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well, personally I'd have a little more respect for him if he was banging Tiger's ex on the side.... Mellow
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#46 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 6:30 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
well, personally I'd have a little more respect for him if he was banging Tiger's ex on the side.... Mellow


Like the french pres?
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#47 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 6:34 PM EST
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Is he banging Elin..?? Huh
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#48 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 8:41 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
well, personally I'd have a little more respect for him if he was banging Tiger's ex on the side.... Mellow



Man I thought you were talkin about OUR Tiger.
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#49 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 8:50 PM EST
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d'oh!
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#50 Posted: Fri, Jan 17 2014, 9:38 PM EST
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Rant on:

F'all the whining in this thread. Just shut the hell up you whining thin skinned apologist sycophants. If you can't take it, don't dish it out and if you think it's bad for the current administration you should have spoken up when it happened to previous administrations.

Rant off
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