America's #1 Online Cigar Auction
first, best, biggest!

Last post 10 years ago by 8trackdisco. 30 replies replies.
The USA Will be Invaded Soon!
HockeyDad Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,138
Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel called Monday for shrinking the U.S. Army to its smallest size in decades, along with other cuts, drawing criticism that the drastic changes will hurt U.S. security.

Hagel announced his Pentagon budget priorities Monday afternoon. The Army had already been preparing to shrink to 490,000 active-duty members from a wartime peak of 570,000. Hagel is proposing to cut it further to between 440,000 and 450,000.

That would make it the smallest since just before the U.S. entered World War II.

"We are repositioning to focus on the strategic challenges and opportunities that will define our future: new technologies, new centers of power, and a world that is growing more volatile, more unpredictable, and in some instances more threatening to the United States," Hagel said at a press conference at the Pentagon.

He defended the proposed reductions in troop strength, as a trade-off for building up "technological superiority" and priorities like Special Operations Forces and "cyber resources."

Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, warned that the cuts would hurt military readiness. And he said the country is only in this position because the Obama administration and Congress will not seriously take on cuts to entitlements.

"It's all being sacrificed ... on the altar of entitlements. This president cannot take on mandatory spending, so all we've done in the Congress -- and this president -- is basically cut discretionary spending," he told Fox News.

Navy Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Pentagon press secretary, said Monday that Hagel consulted closely with the military service chiefs on how to balance defense and budget-saving requirements. "He has worked hard with the services to ensure that we continue to stand for the defense of our national interests -- that whatever budget priorities we establish, we do so in keeping with our defense strategy and with a strong commitment to the men and women in uniform and to their families, Kirby said.

"But he has also said that we have to face the realities of our time. We must be pragmatic. We can't escape tough choices. He and the chiefs are willing to make those choices," Kirby said.

The New York Times first reported on the proposed cuts. The changes reportedly would leave the military capable of waging war, but unable to carry out protracted occupations of foreign territory, as in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Officials told the Times that Hagel's plan has been endorsed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It calls for the Navy to maintain all 11 of its aircraft carriers currently in operation. However, the budget proposal mandates the elimination of the entire fleet of Air Force A-10 attack aircraft, as well as the retiring of the U-2 spy plane, a stalwart of Cold War operations.

The budget plan does keep money for the F-35 warplane, a project which has been beset by delays and criticism over design flaws.

Other characteristics of the budget will likely draw further ire from veterans groups and members of Congress. The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Hagel would recommend a limit on military pay raises, higher fees for health-care benefits, less generous housing allowances, and a one-year freeze on raises for top military brass.

"This is a real uphill battle with Congress," Mieke Eoyang, director of the National Security Program at Third Way, a centrist think tank in Washington, told the Journal.

"God bless [Hagel] for trying to get a handle on these costs," she said. "But in this political environment, in an election year, it's going to be hard for members of Congress to accept anything that's viewed as taking benefits away from troops."
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,555
How big is the People of Obama Army now..?? Huh
GhostTown Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 09-27-2013
Posts: 971
d'oh!
HockeyDad Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,138
DrafterX wrote:
How big is the People of Obama Army now..?? Huh



They're not getting off the couch.
bloody spaniard Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
What do you mean the USA will be invaded SOON??? So? What are drones- chopped liver?
Besides, what do you call our border invasion? The illegals are running amok. Even Canada tightened up & changed anchor baby laws decades ago.

F Halliburton & the military industrial complex. Now bring back the kids from Germany, Korea, & Japan and post them on our borders.
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,555
HockeyDad wrote:
They're not getting off the couch.



prolly not... but it seems like there's an army of folks willing to fight for that bassards right to sit on his couch and do nothing at our expense..... Think
bloody spaniard Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
DrafterX wrote:
prolly not... but it seems like there's an army of folks willing to fight for that bassards right to sit on his couch and do nothing at our expense..... Think

Huh?
I'm still trying to understand why building roads for poppy growing Afghan tribal chiefs and giving satchels of cash to Iraqui imams is protecting my freedoms?
jackconrad Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 06-09-2003
Posts: 67,461
We don't need to defend ourselves anymore because Asia already owns us..
wheelrite Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
We've been invaded,,,,

Long ago,,

The Vietnamese have their own Banks here,,,
Burner02 Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 12-21-2010
Posts: 12,884
Yep, large government and small military works every time.



Gonz
DBIII Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 11-22-2009
Posts: 6,951
bloody spaniard wrote:
What do you mean the USA will be invaded SOON??? So? What are drones- chopped liver?
Besides, what do you call our border invasion? The illegals are running amok. Even Canada tightened up & changed anchor baby laws decades ago.

F Halliburton & the military industrial complex. Now bring back the kids from Germany, Korea, & Japan and post them on our borders.



Well said, we have been continually invaded for some time now. ram27bat
PorknBeans Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 07-23-2013
Posts: 357
yup we need to beware of the enemy within
our greatest threat right now
Burner02 Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 12-21-2010
Posts: 12,884
In keeping with the past five years, we must free up more money for the entitlement programs.


whip
HockeyDad Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,138
More Wars! Less Entitlements!

The people need to take to the streets and protest.
Burner02 Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 12-21-2010
Posts: 12,884
HockeyDad wrote:
More Wars! Less Entitlements!

The people need to take to the streets and protest.




Not advocating more wars but does "walk softly and carry a big stick" ring a bell.
HockeyDad Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,138
Burner02 wrote:
Not advocating more wars but does "walk softly and carry a big stick" ring a bell.



The USA will still have the largest military in the world and still can't stop Mexicans from walking across the border.

There's a difference between carrying a big stick and carry a whole fricking tree branch.




A very Merry Xmas
And a happy New Year
Let's hope it's a good one
Without any fear

War is over, if you want it
War is over now

Happy Xmas
Burner02 Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 12-21-2010
Posts: 12,884
HockeyDad wrote:
The USA will still have the largest military in the world and still can't stop Mexicans from walking across the border.

There's a difference between carrying a big stick and carry a whole fricking tree branch.





Guess it is Bush's fault even though he is not driving the bus.

HockeyDad Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,138
Burner02 wrote:
Guess it is Bush's fault even though he is not driving the bus.




I don't think I mentioned Bush.

GWB did make one huge mistake that was totally calculated. When we went on war footing 13 years ago, there should have been a war tax. There should have been Victory Bonds. Everybody should have been bought in. Instead, we put the entire war effort on the credit card to minimize the effect, for now and mailed the invoice to our children.

Bush knew that if we fought a war on a cash basis, it would unpopular and short. Put it on credit and people barely notice.

Obama took it up a notch and puts EVERYTHING on the credit card!
cacman Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 07-03-2010
Posts: 12,216
Does this mean ammo will become more readily available to the public?
HockeyDad Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,138
cacman wrote:
Does this mean ammo will become more readily available to the public?


No. DHS is still buying it all up in preparation for civil unrest suppression.
DrafterX Offline
#21 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,555
Burner02 wrote:
Not advocating more wars but does "walk softly and carry a big stick" ring a bell.



Ram has a bat.... ram27bat
DrafterX Offline
#22 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,555
HockeyDad wrote:
No. DHS is still buying it all up in preparation for civil unrest suppression.



Those bassards..!! Mad
HockeyDad Offline
#23 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,138
DrafterX wrote:
Ram has a bat.... ram27bat


...and a submarine in his basement.
DrafterX Offline
#24 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,555
HockeyDad wrote:
...and a submarine in his basement.



that sounds more like something TW would do.... Mellow
Philly Jack Offline
#25 Posted:
Joined: 08-31-2012
Posts: 1,791
I'm a republican and this is like deje Vu this is the same rhetoric people said when Clinton was in office really getting tired of this every time there is a Dem in the White House it's like a broken record..
HockeyDad Offline
#26 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,138
Philly Jack wrote:
I'm a republican and this is like deje Vu this is the same rhetoric people said when Clinton was in office really getting tired of this every time there is a Dem in the White House it's like a broken record..



There are three choices:

1. Get out of the war business and shrink the military.
2. Raise taxes.
3. Eventually declare a national bankruptcy and default on all debt.
DadZilla3 Offline
#27 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
HockeyDad wrote:
There are three choices:

1. Get out of the war business and shrink the military.
2. Raise taxes.
3. Eventually declare a national bankruptcy and default on all debt.

or 4. Just keep printing money and keep kicking the can down the road. If political outcry gets too loud, threaten to cut Social Security 'entitlements', Medicare 'entitlements', military pay checks, close national parks, and so on.
bloody spaniard Offline
#28 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
I think all this talk is moot. The dice have already been rolled.

You could elect a modern day Charlemagne who implements a new/improved Code of Hammurabi and still get no resolution. This country will go the way of the USSR and Yugoslavia. We have allowed a marvel to be destroyed. Civil War awaits. We too will get a taste of Spain's prewar experience before the real war begins. Until then, we quibble about bad words to be fined in the NFL and Lebron James's color of mask. Children with their obsessions... Beer
bloody spaniard Offline
#29 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
I am expecting a real life secession of Cali and the US Southwest in our lifetime.
At which time, China, Roosia & their Third World minions will demand nonintervention by our Government and hedgemony be granted similar to Greek city states.
Then, once they F that up, they'll begin to migrate north again.
8trackdisco Offline
#30 Posted:
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 60,082
bloody spaniard wrote:
I am expecting a real life secession of Cali and the US Southwest in our lifetime.
At which time, China, Roosia & their Third World minions will demand nonintervention by our Government and hedgemony be granted similar to Greek city states.
Then, once they F that up, they'll begin to migrate north again.


Until ..... it is all gone.
Users browsing this topic
Guest