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Never cared for stern.

I vote Republican anyways.

Boofrickenhoo, Howie- got kicked in the investment yarbles ditcha? Nasty ain't it? Now shaddup & hand over your wallet. And don't forget the hair extensions.
Ya gots to pay your share. Not like you can't afford it.

Sounds like we need to redistribute some of those degrees.

What did I tell ya yesterday. The most liberal of folks are leaving the party in disgust. Howie's disgust and claim is that this is the last time he is voting for a party that will no longer help his special interest- this party has become conservative and looking out for the well-being of the society, even if it means losing their biggest supporters.

His confession is eyeopening, how people cry when they dont get to rape us.

I bet Jack missed that tiny detail.
I should have seen myself when he said he voted for Kerry, Hillary and Al Gore. We should remind him that all the people he voted for LOST. He LOST.

You're a worthless prick who's only reason for being here is to stir up shit. You don't talk about cigars, trade cigars... in fact you add no relevancy to this forum at all.

I'm done with you.

I'll take the pen is mightier for 400, Alex.

Course, three minutes to Wapner....

That sounds wrong out of context. I was referring to Howard Stern leaving because his liberal needs were not met. My point being this is the most conservative the democratic party has ever been. Including Obamacare which is a policy straight out of the conservative handbook.

what is a cab?

It was both, originally proposed by republicans, and the only other time it was used was by republican governor Romney.

Fundamentally it absolutely conservative. The conservative dogma is personal responsibility. Obamacare forces everyone to pay into healthcare. Whereas, all previous solutions only asked the wealthy to pay in (i.e obtained free from employers). In fact so ridiculous was health insurance and hospital pricing, that it was not even available to the general public. Which goes against capitalism (the other pillar of conservatism)

I am a dyed in wool (as opposed to koolaid) lifelong conservative, and you heard it from me, history will look back on Obama as the conservative. Not unlike Theodore being the true champion of democrats.

Not to interrupt your friendly exchange but to me Obama and Holder behave like crypto fascists who hate intellectual or constructive engagement & resort to IRS/DOJ mafioso tactics. Free speech codes have been implemented in Canada and England and they now have no real speech. We are quickly approaching this 100 years of darkness...

I also don't have a problem with Obamacare aka Medciaid for most. As I've said many a time, we've always been headed towards a lower standard of living. Yes, the insurance companies were raping us for a long time & the health industry went along with the skyrocketing charade but when the Government should have dealt with insurance companies (pharma's dolts), regarding pre-existing conditions, exclusions, alternative therapies, and prevention, they didn't. Now we pay the piper as they raise premiums and offer substandard care.

Compay, your posts are like onions. They make my eyes water as I peel (analyze & dissect) them.
I mean that in a nice way.

The reason that I find your take interesting is that at some point radical liberalism and true conservatism meet.

Oddly cogent . . . .

So, you feel Obamacare is a birdie?

Oh, a birdie is one under par. So typically a hole in three. Given a par 4, a hole in one would be a double eagle. A birdie would be him doing one stroke better than par.

I might say it's an eagle with a mulligan . . .

I'm a very good driver.

Radical conservatism?

This is a misclassification.

What is the intent/motive?

Good ole Howie sees the light and wants to switch sides after his change purse gets hit.
Be a man like Bill Maher & stand by your principles, ya birdnosed hypocrite, and look for a mo' creative accountant.

True- LOL! You're right, there's something a little disturbing to me about a couple of old, dried out, successful jews from my generation kvetching & probing.
It's like watching two over thinking schizophrenic neurotics spar from a secret hiding place.

Must admit that I look forward to shows like this and Inside Comedy.

Good to see you, compadre scompay.

Can't hide my affection for botl who speak their mind & are not afraid to be controversial.

it was a tough battle ehh...??

Point is we all see and dislike the obvious forms of welfare; such as a poor person looking for a handout for medicine for his children. What we dont see is the welfare for the wealthy, such as how some rich snob hung like a female bodybuilder will ask for and get a congressional hearing into non-performing enhancement pills.

Just stopped in & glanced at this & Brew's dry, irreverent post. lol

Of course we see the welfare for the wealthy and the many perks of the privileged. I think that wet fish first slapped our face when "trickle down" didn't work & then big time in 2008 when the frick & frack of presidencies (W & Barack) sold us (out) & signed off on the Tarp bailouts. Corporate welfare is sold as good for the little guy because it's a job creator and grows the economy yadayadayada.

I don't think I've ever seen more hatred for the rich and powerful than there is now and a lot of it is justifiable (the veil has been partially lifted). It's just that the politicians are pretending it's business as usual.

This is the best country ever but it has been polluted by greed and self interests.

And the cleverest thing the top end does is to say 'dont focus on us, look at that maricone picking strawberries for $4.00 an hour, he is robbing us blind'.