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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 1:54 AM EST
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the governor of arizona has to decide to sign or veto a recent law allowing

religious beliefs to discriminate against gays and lesbians in the public arena


instead of the law being vetoed or passed depending upon fairness or morality,

it will be decided on how it will affect the governor's chances to be reelected.


this is america today it used to be much simpler. "ni**ers and jews keep off the grass."
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 2:04 AM EST
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monitor. why was the N word censored and not the j word
DrMaddVibe Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 6:49 AM EST
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Puff Daddy buys at the Mothership.
TMCTLT Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 7:17 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
monitor. why was the N word censored and not the j word



Really Rick you need ask that??? It's okay to discriminate against folks...just choose carefully which group you pick on.
Some have More rights than others when it comes to sensitive issues such as name calling
DrMaddVibe Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 7:23 AM EST
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If the Kenyan King had a son he'd be discriminated against.
jespear Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 7:25 AM EST
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Be careful using the "N" word, Rick.
You might get hit with a 15 yard penalty.

Can you believe the NFL is actually thinking about instituting this rule next season ?
cacman Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 7:40 AM EST
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Believe there is already an existing law that's been on the books for over 15yrs that this new law is in support of. Only thing new here is the media coverage and the LGBT momentum.
TMCTLT Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 8:01 AM EST
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cacman wrote:
Believe there is already an existing law that's been on the books for over 15yrs that this new law is in support of. Only thing new here is the media coverage and the LGBT momentum.



If Mr. Gayness really wanted people to think of him as an NFL player.....Not a GAY NfL player......WTF come out and stand on his soapbox and announce it to the World? Agenda agenda agenda

Cuz as far as I'm concerned, the way to silence the critics would have been to have a great combine ( NOT ) get drafted by a team......then tell the World in your loudest voice possible. " I Like Men " but I still Got Game. fog No this guy and his manager are working the whole gay angle to protect him from NOT being hired. JMO
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#9 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 9:46 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
monitor. why was the N word censored and not the j word


I am really surprised at your absurdity. You have lost the plot.

Jews was a word picked and used by Jews themselves- it signifies the religious denomination. Moreover the chosen ones. Thats why you see Jewish temples and J Date

The N word was not picked by those whom it is bestowed upon and it signifies a lowly being and not religion. Thats why there is no N temple or N date.

I am shaking my head at you. You know better.
HockeyDad Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 10:16 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:


this is america today it used to be much simpler. "ni**ers and jews keep off the grass."





OLD RACIST CRACKER OUTRAGE!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 10:21 AM EST
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I sure could use a nice cold iced glass of lemonade or tea about right now..whip
scompay Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 12:01 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
OLD RACIST CRACKER OUTRAGE!


He doesnt realize how Racist he is. neither do you.

While this law had absolutely nothing to do with Black people. Every time someone wants to talk about a weird group like dykes, ladyboys and sword swallowers, they leverage the n word for extra ooomph. Its a painful insult beyond comprehension.

In other words we have created a default association of the N word anytime we mention freaks.
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#13 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 12:11 PM EST
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scompay wrote:
In other words we have created a default association of the N word anytime we mention freaks.



we have not...... not around here anyways... Not talking
HockeyDad Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 12:12 PM EST
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scompay wrote:
He doesnt realize how Racist he is. neither do you.



Hey....I know what's in my invisible backpack of privilege.

In the words of Alec Baldwin, what's in your wallet?
scompay Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 12:40 PM EST
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No you dont. Wasps cant stand it for a moment if someone even calls them what they are. In other words we have to be politically correct when calling white boys who do it with other white boys. Clearly even the ones who are different want equal treatment. Whereas a person being called the N word is absolutely no different than a normal human being.

So its not about the privilege. The point is that even with the privilege you could never endure for a minute what the Blacks have. You would have grown up to have massive inferiority complex. Look you cant even stand it when a queer is called a queer. You are devastated. So much so that you have to invoke the N word. You cry 'dont mistreat us queers, you may as well put a sign in the yard that says kneegars'. Whoa there...I know why they call you a queer, tell me why anyone should be called a N******r
victor809 Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 12:41 PM EST
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What makes it more interesting is that a number of high profile companies are threatening to pull out of AZ if it isn't vetoed, as the bill goes against their corporate codes of conduct.

According to some articles, legislators who voted FOR the bill, are requesting the governor veto it... that's a brilliant political move, tell your dumb ass constituency that it "isn't your fault, you tried to get their anti-gay bill passed, you even voted for it", while still keeping your corporate sponsors happy.
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#17 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 12:53 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
What makes it more interesting is that a number of high profile companies are threatening to pull out of AZ if it isn't vetoed, as the bill goes against their corporate codes of conduct.

According to some articles, legislators who voted FOR the bill, are requesting the governor veto it... that's a brilliant political move, tell your dumb ass constituency that it "isn't your fault, you tried to get their anti-gay bill passed, you even voted for it", while still keeping your corporate sponsors happy.



Yep precisely the stupidity that has sealed the fate of the republican party. Watch them now become the pro-gay party. Just like they now have more immigrant party leaders in an attempt to get the immigrant vote. They are really pathetic. They are all the things the accused the liberals of. Its all turned around now, liberalism is the new conservative.
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#18 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 1:20 PM EST
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They are trying to pass this ridiculous law in Mississippi now.
scompay Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 1:33 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
What makes it more interesting is that a number of high profile companies are threatening to pull out of AZ if it isn't vetoed, as the bill goes against their corporate codes of conduct.

According to some articles, legislators who voted FOR the bill, are requesting the governor veto it... that's a brilliant political move, tell your dumb ass constituency that it "isn't your fault, you tried to get their anti-gay bill passed, you even voted for it", while still keeping your corporate sponsors happy.


Yeah they are trying to play both sides of the fence. But corporations is being forced to distance themselves from the wackos. Just like Apple stopped all advertising on Fox news. They fired the nutjob trying to get apple back, but apple said no way. The republicans are doomed. Between village idiot bush, delusional ******, and then the final nail the tea party, the only hope they have is the simpletons, they are targeting them HARD.
gryphonms Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 1:49 PM EST
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I think there is another financial implication that would damage Arizona's economy. They will take a significant hit to their tourism industry. While I think the numbers are some what subjective the LGBT community is about 4% of the population. I think they will boycott Arizona. Also a certain percentage of the Liberal community will also boycott Arizona. Let's say 6% of the population boycotts Arizona. While it will not effect most of their economy it will directly effect their tourism industry. This is a significant monetary loss.
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#21 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 2:18 PM EST
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The fun part is that it's a group with a larger amount of expendable time and money.

The percentage of childless gay couples (or childless gay singles) far outstrips that of the straights. Couple that with a higher individual and household income you're looking at a disproportionate amount of discretionary cash.
HockeyDad Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:09 PM EST
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scompay wrote:
No you dont. Wasps cant stand it for a moment if someone even calls them what they are. In other words we have to be politically correct when calling white boys who do it with other white boys. Clearly even the ones who are different want equal treatment. Whereas a person being called the N word is absolutely no different than a normal human being.

So its not about the privilege. The point is that even with the privilege you could never endure for a minute what the Blacks have. You would have grown up to have massive inferiority complex. Look you cant even stand it when a queer is called a queer. You are devastated. So much so that you have to invoke the N word. You cry 'dont mistreat us queers, you may as well put a sign in the yard that says kneegars'. Whoa there...I know why they call you a queer, tell me why anyone should be called a N******r



What's all this "you" crap. Don't you put that evil on me.
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#23 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:13 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
What's all this "you" crap. Don't you put that evil on me.



'You'' appears to be anyone unholier than himself..... Mellow
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#24 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:18 PM EST
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What floors me is that 'good Christians' got the bill this far.
So did Jesus like feed the multitude with loaves and fishes except the gays?
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#25 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:19 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
What floors me is that 'good Christians' got the bill this far.
So did Jesus like feed the multitude with loaves and fishes except the gays?




I don't think there were gay-homos back then.... Mellow
scompay Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:26 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
What's all this "you" crap. Don't you put that evil on me.


Sorry HD just ignore the YOU part. Its not meant to be anything other than complimentary. As in, you are blessed with privilege and confidence!
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#27 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:27 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I don't think there were gay-homos back then.... Mellow

You could be right. When did it all start? Back with Prince, or maybe Liberace?
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#28 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:29 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I don't think there were gay-homos back then.... Mellow


Yeah cause you could not tell the men and women apart, they all had long hair and wore robes.
And razor blades had not been invented. There were no distinct lines is allz i am saying. There was little difference between peter, paul and mary.
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#29 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:31 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
You could be right. When did it all start? Back with Prince, or maybe Liberace?



best I can figure it was in the Navy around WWII... Mellow
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#30 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:33 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
best I can figure it was in the Navy around WWII... Mellow

Yeah, I think I read that some where.
Kinda puts new light on the phrase "blow me down" dont it?
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#31 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:34 PM EST
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But think about it. Thats how sad the world has become, white boys who do it with boys want equality. People of color who have no other differentiators but color struggle to be ordinary humans.
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#32 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:36 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
best I can figure it was in the Navy around WWII... Mellow


Greeks /Romans.

Alexander the great, (great homo) Isle of Lesbos. Caligula.
HockeyDad Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:37 PM EST
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scompay wrote:
Sorry HD just ignore the YOU part. Its not meant to be anything other than complimentary. As in, you are blessed with privilege and confidence!



Damn straight.....plus I'm under the Obama Cone Of Protection.

Life's good.
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#34 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:42 PM EST
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HD:

It seems to me, though very funny your sense of humor is usually purposely obtuse. I think it would be easy for someone to take your comments literally. By no means does this mean that I agree with anyone else's comments about you. Just wanted to mention the possibility.

Brewha:

Keep in mind, any religion has a right to their beliefs. The issue here as I see it is not so much about religion. It is about the separation of church and state. It is also about human rights within our country. Finally do you really expect any different from Arizona with their views on immigration?
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#35 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:44 PM EST
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I think Arizona's view on immigration is just fine.... pretty sure it's the illegal kind they have trouble with... Mellow
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#36 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:48 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Damn straight.....plus I'm under the Obama Cone Of Protection.

Life's good.


Have tried to use it yet. You will be grossly disappointed to find that food stamps and obamacare is not accepted in 99% of the places that take American Express.

Trying buying cigars with it. You will find the only way to get free cigars is to be a troop overseas.
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#37 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:56 PM EST
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gryphonms wrote:
HD:

It seems to me, though very funny your sense of humor is usually purposely obtuse. I think it would be easy for someone to take your comments literally. By no means does this mean that I agree with anyone else's comments about you. Just wanted to mention the possibility.

Brewha:

Keep in mind, any religion has a right to their beliefs. The issue here as I see it is not so much about religion. It is about the separation of church and state. It is also about human rights within our country. Finally do you really expect any different from Arizona with their views on immigration?

Right, those folks Arizona are a real prize. But this law is nothing more than allowing hate and hate crimes by crying religious rights. Think they would back it if a mooslum put up a sigh in this store saying "we don't serve Christians here"?

The people behind this are some hating fools . . .
And no, they do not have a right to it.
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#38 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 3:58 PM EST
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scompay wrote:
But think about it. Thats how sad the world has become, white boys who do it with boys want equality. People of color who have no other differentiators but color struggle to be ordinary humans.


what a load of crap
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#39 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 4:01 PM EST
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scompay wrote:
Have tried to use it yet. You will be grossly disappointed to find that food stamps and obamacare is not accepted in 99% of the places that take American Express.

Trying buying cigars with it. You will find the only way to get free cigars is to be a troop overseas.



Food stamps and Obamacare are for peasants. Corporate welfare is where it is at.
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#40 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 4:01 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
what a load of crap


My point
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#41 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 4:05 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Food stamps and Obamacare are for peasants. Corporate welfare is where it is at.


Precisely, the pittance we hand the peasants is merely to keep them at bay while we enjoy our dividends. And we pay half the taxes on our dividends. Bottoms up Froggie.
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#42 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 4:09 PM EST
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scompay wrote:
Precisely, the pittance we hand the peasants is merely to keep them at bay while we enjoy our dividends. And we pay half the taxes on our dividends. Bottoms up Froggie.



I've always viewed food stamps as part of the "cost of doing business". Hungry people revolt, kill the upper class (and middle class sometimes), and overthrow governments. People with full bellies watch "The Bachelor" and "American Idol" and just grumble a little bit.
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#43 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 5:27 PM EST
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scompay wrote:
My point


Yes.
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#44 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 5:41 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I've always viewed food stamps as part of the "cost of doing business". Hungry people revolt, kill the upper class (and middle class sometimes), and overthrow governments. People with full bellies watch "The Bachelor" and "American Idol" and just grumble a little bit.


Full stomachs dont scale walls.

Funny how many times history has forgotten that rule. The froggies were notorious for it. Some say she wasnt even suggesting they eat cake, rather cakka.
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#45 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 5:45 PM EST
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scompay wrote:
Full stomachs dont scale walls.

Funny how many times history has forgotten that rule. The froggies were notorious for it. Some say she wasnt even suggesting they eat cake, rather cakka.




The Russians became the Soviets and then Russians again by not paying attention to this fact.
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Germans became nazis....
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#47 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 7:12 PM EST
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I hear the "N-word" spoken about 40 times a day at work.

Mellow
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#48 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 7:23 PM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
I hear the "N-word" spoken about 40 times a day at work.

Mellow


cause you screwup so much slave.
Brewha Offline
#49 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 7:50 PM EST
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scompay wrote:
Germans became nazis....

Capitalist became Republicans . . .
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#50 Posted: Wed, Feb 26 2014, 7:56 PM EST
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It's been vetoed.

Money won out over stupidity.


YAY Money!
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