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jackconrad Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Mar 20 2014, 12:23 PM EST
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Boner Mclame and Kerry

The people running this world are spoilt bratz..
Buckwheat Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Mar 20 2014, 12:30 PM EST
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Jack did you just figure this out? Next they will be yelling, "Im better than you, nana da bobo, stick your head in dodo", at each other. Frying pan
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#3 Posted: Thu, Mar 20 2014, 12:32 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Jack did you just figure this out? Next they will be yelling, "Im better than you, nana da bobo, stick your head in dodo", at each other. Frying pan



Daniel Tosh...is that you?whip
Buckwheat Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Mar 20 2014, 12:58 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Daniel Tosh...is that you?whip


ThumpUp
jetblasted Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Mar 20 2014, 3:17 PM EST
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President Puddy Tat !!!
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#6 Posted: Thu, Mar 20 2014, 3:37 PM EST
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cWk6RgQbPVc
fiddler898 Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Mar 20 2014, 5:45 PM EST
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The President is trembling.
Bitter Klinger Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Mar 20 2014, 7:00 PM EST
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Well, the lyrics in the vid seem to apply...
jetblasted Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Mar 21 2014, 4:48 PM EST
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Putin Hates moslems ! ! !

fog
DrMaddVibe Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Mar 23 2014, 3:57 PM EST
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fiddler898 wrote:
The President is trembling.



The Kenyan King can't even break par!!!
frankj1 Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Mar 23 2014, 5:58 PM EST
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been asking everyone/anyone on every thread of this sort...will any one of the complainers explain what exactly is the brilliant move Palin/Romney/Paul/Boner/Ryan or YOU suggest be done?
Wanna have O go beat up Russia? Wanna have O send troops into Ukraine and fight it out? Wanna have O mind our own biz but make statements critical of Russia?

What's your candidate gonna do? I'm not supporting the Big O but either state what works that he is missing or STFU already!

If form holds, there will be silence once again.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Mar 23 2014, 6:09 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
been asking everyone/anyone on every thread of this sort...will any one of the complainers explain what exactly is the brilliant move Palin/Romney/Paul/Boner/Ryan or YOU suggest be done?
Wanna have O go beat up Russia? Wanna have O send troops into Ukraine and fight it out? Wanna have O mind our own biz but make statements critical of Russia?

What's your candidate gonna do? I'm not supporting the Big O but either state what works that he is missing or STFU already!

If form holds, there will be silence once again.



Seriously...STFU about what anyone else would do.

This is the hand that America dealt itself from the bottom of the deck.

don't like it? Then don't vote for people that aren't ready for primetime.

Jesus, you're a whiny ****.
frankj1 Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Mar 23 2014, 6:28 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Seriously...STFU about what anyone else would do.

This is the hand that America dealt itself from the bottom of the deck.

don't like it? Then don't vote for people that aren't ready for primetime.

Jesus, you're a whiny ****.

dr.dude, what are you actually responding to? Certainly not what I have asked repeatedly, just more avoidance as predicted.

I'm clearly talking about nonstop-but-no-answer-whiny-bitches. Wah Wah Wah Obama and Russia. Wah Wah Wah Obama and Russia. It never ends but no answers, just complaints. Ah, such savvy political insight!

So I ask again: Will one frigging knocker...including you, ever post even one post on one lousy thread... PLEASE POST WHAT THE PROPER RESPONSE IS FOR THE POTUS TO MAKE re Ukraine?

I get it, he is hated. So what is your opinion on what course of action should he have been taking? I'd like to know what would work, cuz I don't know either. But I'm not constantly crying that he is screwing it up.

I agree DMV, he don't have the stuff. But do you? What is the answer to this particular set of circumstances? You've avoided this directly in another thread.

The floor is yours and the response is not about me. What should the POTUS have been doing all along about Russia and Ukraine?
sd72 Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Mar 23 2014, 6:38 PM EST
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I'm thinking a strongly worded letter, sent registered mail.
frankj1 Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Mar 23 2014, 7:06 PM EST
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sd72 wrote:
I'm thinking a strongly worded letter, sent registered mail.

that's what I'm looking for.
Thanks







You do have a way of making me laugh.
frankj1 Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, Mar 23 2014, 10:17 PM EST
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my work is done here...
Bitter Klinger Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Mar 23 2014, 11:35 PM EST
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Yeah, I'm thinking the words uttered on hot mic about being able to do more after the election? Those were Putins', not BHOzos...then Putin told Barry to tie his shoe and popped his chin when he looked down.

Here Frank, just for you buddy! BuwaaHaaHaa!!

http://floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/obama-caddy.jpg

horse ram27bat horse ram27bat horse ram27bat horse


P.S. Don't cha get it, Frank? If Romney/Paul/Boner?/Ryan were in, it wouldn't be a problem, even Palins balls are bigger.
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#18 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 6:49 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
What should the POTUS have been doing all along about Russia and Ukraine?

Word is, Obama is threatening to unfriend Putin on Facebook.
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#19 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 7:51 AM EST
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DadZilla3 wrote:
Word is, Obama is threatening to unfriend Putin on Facebook.

it's funny, but it's funny in a helpless sort of way. the truth is that as bad as Obama is and has been as President, no body has the answer to this situation.

It may just be that the correct posture is to make noise, say it is counterproductive to stability, condemn the aggression, a few symbolic moves...but that's it. The area has been more Russian than Ukrainian, they have a huge base there, the Ukraine government toppled...

DadZ, I'm just trying to provoke some thoughtful posts. I am unhappy with our government but I can't see writing that 1,000 times. Clearly Obama is despised, what would the haters want him to have done differently on this issue?
The replies are just more vitriol, more piling on, a few funny lines, but they all add up to exactly what I am stating...the finger pointers have no idea what to do either, they just make noise.
frankj1 Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 7:57 AM EST
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Bitter Klinger wrote:
Yeah, I'm thinking the words uttered on hot mic about being able to do more after the election? Those were Putins', not BHOzos...then Putin told Barry to tie his shoe and popped his chin when he looked down.

Here Frank, just for you buddy! BuwaaHaaHaa!!

http://floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/obama-caddy.jpg

horse ram27bat horse ram27bat horse ram27bat horse


P.S. Don't cha get it, Frank? If Romney/Paul/Boner?/Ryan were in, it wouldn't be a problem, even Palins balls are bigger.

Will have to check the link later, but should I assume you are willing to be the first to strap on a pair and say the answer is to send in the military and crush the Russians? Is that what you mean when you talk about Palin having bigger balls? You back her because she'd go kick some azz the good old American way?

OK< so Klinger has stepped up and votes for military muscle to deal with the situation in Ukraine. Finally some guts shown here. An opinion finally.

I'll be the first to disagree with him. Others?

The topic is not election words, it's the situation in the present tense.
jackconrad Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 9:00 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
it's funny, but it's funny in a helpless sort of way. the truth is that as bad as Obama is and has been as President, no body has the answer to this situation.

It may just be that the correct posture is to make noise, say it is counterproductive to stability, condemn the aggression, a few symbolic moves...but that's it. The area has been more Russian than Ukrainian, they have a huge base there, the Ukraine government toppled...

DadZ, I'm just trying to provoke some thoughtful posts. I am unhappy with our government but I can't see writing that 1,000 times. Clearly Obama is despised, what would the haters want him to have done differently on this issue?
The replies are just more vitriol, more piling on, a few funny lines, but they all add up to exactly what I am stating...the finger pointers have no idea what to do either, they just make noise.



Hey Frank no one is angry but the Point here is that Putin only did this because he knew OBAMA was a weak spot in the wall and would not have done this if Romney was in power ,fearing a credible response,.
I will however say i am more afraid Obama will make a rash and dangerous response just to answer his critics.
The reality is that we are only in this situation because we are preaching Love not War to a World of Savages..

It's just futile to do that. Kinda like telling your dog to stop eating red meat because it's bad for him..
HockeyDad Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 9:08 AM EST
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jackconrad wrote:
Hey Frank no one is angry but the Point here is that Putin only did this because he knew OBAMA was a weak spot in the wall and would not have done this if Romney was in power ,fearing a credible response,.
I will however say i am more afraid Obama will make a rash and dangerous response just to answer his critics.
The reality is that we are only in this situation because we are preaching Love not War to a World of Savages..

It's just futile to do that. Kinda like telling your dog to stop eating red meat because it's bad for him..



Come on Jack.....what credible response would Romney come up with for this situation?

Sometimes we preach love not war because as a nation we get war weary. How many times can you send somebody else's kids of to war before you start getting a little tired or guilty.
jackconrad Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 9:39 AM EST
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You assume the Romney response would have been war but that is not what i had in mind.
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#24 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 10:23 AM EST
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jackconrad wrote:
You assume the Romney response would have been war but that is not what i had in mind.






I assumed nothing. I merely asked "What credible response".

I'll wait.
jackconrad Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 11:14 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Come on Jack.....what credible response would Romney come up with for this situation?

Sometimes we preach love not war because as a nation we get war weary. How many times can you send somebody else's kids of to war before you start getting a little tired or guilty.



This looks like more than a question to me ..

However thank you for your statement !
gryphonms Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 11:21 AM EST
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Seems to me no one has stated what a credible response would be because there is no credible response. Sanctions will accomplish very little other than to annoy Russia to some extent. I doubt the EU will impose many sanctions because they need Russian oil.
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#27 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 11:34 AM EST
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gryphonms wrote:
Seems to me no one has stated what a credible response would be because there is no credible response. Sanctions will accomplish very little other than to annoy Russia to some extent. I doubt the EU will impose many sanctions because they need Russian oil.



What is lost here is that by projecting the USA as a Weak lapdog and isolating most of our allies ,(like Germany when we spied on them ),we have given Rascals like Putin motivation that we are in no position to speak or act at all..

Where as they all knew what would happen if they crossed Bush ,..
frankj1 Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 12:48 PM EST
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gryphonms wrote:
Seems to me no one has stated what a credible response would be because there is no credible response. Sanctions will accomplish very little other than to annoy Russia to some extent. I doubt the EU will impose many sanctions because they need Russian oil.

And clearly that is what I am saying, thank you gryph, only I am adding that the bashers did not have a candidate's opinion nor a personal opinion that would be credible either...so why not stop bashing at least on this issue.

and thanks HD.
gryphonms Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 1:07 PM EST
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Jack I understand your view of they knew what would happen if they crossed Bush. But I do not believe Bushes actions were in our best interest. How did wars in Iraq and Afghanistan lend themselves to our best interest? I feel they were/are contributing factors in our ecomic decline.
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We fought Iraq twice and they did not abide by the treaty they signed,They had Murdered many ( maybye 1 million )Kurds with Chemical weapons and mayby as many iranians and were threatening us and the whole Mid East which had already had a devastating effect on the price of oil (,which is the real reason our economy is still wrecked.)

They were shooying at our planes every day..

Afghanastan was host to Obama Bin Laden and was protecteing and prasing him, you let that go and the whole region would fall and you would be wearing a Turban already if they let you live,,


This is a War against Islam which has to be fought while we still have a chance to win it.. Wait and you lose..
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People tend to forget Sadam could have prevented that war... Mellow
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#32 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 3:15 PM EST
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jackconrad wrote:
This looks like more than a question to me ..

However thank you for your statement !



What credible response would Romney come up with for this situation?
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#33 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 3:16 PM EST
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Think

Beer Summit...?? Huh
HockeyDad Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 3:24 PM EST
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jackconrad wrote:
We fought Iraq twice and they did not abide by the treaty they signed,They had Murdered many ( maybye 1 million )Kurds with Chemical weapons and mayby as many iranians and were threatening us and the whole Mid East which had already had a devastating effect on the price of oil (,which is the real reason our economy is still wrecked.)

They were shooying at our planes every day..

Afghanastan was host to Obama Bin Laden and was protecteing and prasing him, you let that go and the whole region would fall and you would be wearing a Turban already if they let you live,,


This is a War against Islam which has to be fought while we still have a chance to win it.. Wait and you lose..




Go Team America!

When Iraq murdered Iranians, we supplied munitions. When Iraq killed Kurds, we did nothing. When Iraq took the oil fields of Kuwait we were OUTRAGED and sent in the tanks!

To your Allahu Akbar I say....Jesus is great and will crush Islam!
HockeyDad Offline
#35 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 3:25 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
People tend to forget Sadam could have prevented that war... Mellow



GWB bush also could have as it turns out.
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#36 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 3:25 PM EST
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^LMAO
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#37 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 3:28 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
GWB bush also could have as it turns out.



by moving the red line..?? Huh
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#38 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 3:34 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
by moving the red line..?? Huh



No. He could have just said "don't attack". There never was a red line.
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#39 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 3:45 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
No. He could have just said "don't attack". There never was a red line.



all he had to do was allow the inspectors in.. he refused and we gave him like 30 days to think about it... he chose not to so he wouldn't look weak in front of his country... his pride killed him...

it's all out there on the internets... Mellow
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#40 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 3:45 PM EST
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So it's okay to shoot at American Planes and threaten to unleash chemical attacks ?? Cmon ,,..



By the way As far as Crimea goes it never should have been a part of the Ukraine because they are Russians and wanted to be Russian all along.

As for a response , the fact that we did respond is the problem..

And mark my word , Obama has nasty stuff up his sleeve .. Liberals can't stand to play 2nd fiddle..

There is no comparison here though..


But here is the real problem

We need to develop our own Oil and quit buying from the Mid Eaast entilrely..

and also subsidize the development of all viable alternative energy strategies in this country.

Keep the money in America or among civilized freindly nations and keep the money and jobs here..
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I'm only around one in a while for buying smokes but I'll shoot. Being that the Mormon church stands ready to survive an apocalyptic event Romney would initiate action ultimately bringing about a long simmering conflict since the end of WW2. Billions would die and the world would become a post - apocalyptic waste land ruled brutally by the Mormons. Not one vestige of the Russian federation will be left and the real estate will be uninhabitable. Most of the USA will survive thanks to our secret missile defense system. In 500 years or so the end of the Nuclear winter will usher in a new world just like before and people will go at it again.
We should bomb Moscow now before they do. Its what Eisenhower really wanted.
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#42 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 4:05 PM EST
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jackconrad wrote:
By the way As far as Crimea goes it never should have been a part of the Ukraine because they are Russians and wanted to be Russian all along.

As for a response , the fact that we did respond is the problem..

And mark my word , Obama has nasty stuff up his sleeve .. Liberals can't stand to play 2nd fiddle..




So Romney's credible response would have been no response. You're a tricky one. You demand Obama respond yet what you wanted was no response?!

I have marked your words. (I did however footnote that mark that you may just be a bitter partisan Republican)
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DrafterX wrote:
all he had to do was allow the inspectors in.. he refused and we gave him like 30 days to think about it... he chose not to so he wouldn't look weak in front of his country... his pride killed him...

it's all out there on the internets... Mellow


The USA shouldn't be in the business of running around making "do this or we attack" demands. The false Iraqi case lowered the USA's standing worldwide.
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#44 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 4:12 PM EST
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jackconrad wrote:

But here is the real problem

We need to develop our own Oil and quit buying from the Mid Eaast entilrely..

and also subsidize the development of all viable alternative energy strategies in this country.

Keep the money in America or among civilized freindly nations and keep the money and jobs here..






Crimea, Russia, and Ukraine are not in the middle east.

I'm starting to smell a rat here......I suspect you haven't even killed a single Muslim in the War on Islam!
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#45 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 4:14 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
The USA shouldn't be in the business of running around making "do this or we attack" demands. The false Iraqi case lowered the USA's standing worldwide.



I agree and saw what happened........ all I'm saying is it didn't have to go down like that... If Sadam refused to cooperate and we did nothing what would the world think of us then..?? Mellow
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#46 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 4:20 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I agree and saw what happened........ all I'm saying is it didn't have to go down like that... If Sadam refused to cooperate and we did nothing what would the world think of us then..?? Mellow



Don't issue a bogus ultimatum and then there is no issue of refusing to cooperate.
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#47 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 4:25 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Don't issue a bogus ultimatum and then there is no issue of refusing to cooperate.




didn't turn out to be bogus.... Mellow




but this has been discussed to death around here... no point in dragging it all up again.... time for a beer.. Beer







Sadam was poking the bear tho.. Mellow
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#48 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 5:41 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
didn't turn out to be bogus.... Mellow




but this has been discussed to death around here... no point in dragging it all up again.... time for a beer.. Beer







Sadam was poking the bear tho.. Mellow



It was bogus. JPotts found like 6 artillery shells in a ditch that had been there since 1985.

Saddam was poking the eagle, not the bear.
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#49 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 6:28 PM EST
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People who are hung up on nothing more than trying to score points against obama have this idea in their head that if Mormon Businessman Romney, or Alaskan soccermom Palin had been in office, Putin (frequently seen wrestling bears and having sex with crocodiles while they silently cry in the shame of their inferiority) would be so afraid of the USA's "gumption" that he'd never even consider this move on crimea.

Keep in mind, these same people don't actually WANT obama to do anything, and they wouldn't actually WANT palin or romney or whoever to do anything. They just think that despite it being common knowledge that we don't see any action a politician could take as being good in this situation, somehow EX KGB officer Putin would be too afraid of this soccer mom or mormon invading...that he'd just behave himself.

It's amazing what sort of mental gymnastics people go through sometimes.
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#50 Posted: Mon, Mar 24 2014, 7:49 PM EST
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What Putin did was make the President look like an ass..and therefore it's citizenry..
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