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Abrignac Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 9:13 AM EST
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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: Welcome to the Finger-Wagging Olympics

Moral outrage is exhausting. And dangerous. The whole country has gotten a severe case of carpal tunnel syndrome from the newest popular sport of Extreme Finger Wagging. Not to mention the neck strain from Olympic tryouts for Morally Superior Head Shaking. All over the latest in a long line of rich white celebrities to come out of the racist closet. (Was it only a couple days ago that Cliven Bundy said blacks would be better off picking cotton as slaves? And only last June Paula Deen admitted using the “N” word?)
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Yes, I’m angry, too, but not just about the sins of Donald Sterling. I’ve got a list. But let’s start with Sterling. I used to work for him, back in 2000 when I coached for the Clippers for three months. He was congenial, even inviting me to his daughter’s wedding. Nothing happened or was said to indicate he suffered from IPMS (Irritable Plantation Master Syndrome). Since then, a lot has been revealed about Sterling’s business practices:

And now the poor guy’s girlfriend (undoubtedly ex-girlfriend now) is on tape cajoling him into revealing his racism. Man, what a winding road she led him down to get all of that out. She was like a sexy nanny playing “pin the fried chicken on the Sambo.” She blindfolded him and spun him around until he was just blathering all sorts of incoherent racist sound bites that had the news media peeing themselves with glee.

They caught big game on a slow news day, so they put his head on a pike, dubbed him Lord of the Flies, and danced around him whooping.

I don’t blame them. I’m doing some whooping right now. Racists deserve to be paraded around the modern town square of the television screen so that the rest of us who believe in the American ideals of equality can be reminded that racism is still a disease that we haven’t yet licked.

What bothers me about this whole Donald Sterling affair isn’t just his racism. I’m bothered that everyone acts as if it’s a huge surprise. Now there’s all this dramatic and very public rending of clothing about whether they should keep their expensive Clippers season tickets. Really? All this other stuff I listed above has been going on for years and this ridiculous conversation with his girlfriend is what puts you over the edge? That’s the smoking gun?

He was discriminating against black and Hispanic families for years, preventing them from getting housing. It was public record. We did nothing. Suddenly he says he doesn’t want his girlfriend posing with Magic Johnson on Instagram and we bring out the torches and rope. Shouldn’t we have all called for his resignation back then?

Shouldn’t we be equally angered by the fact that his private, intimate conversation was taped and then leaked to the media? Didn’t we just call to task the NSA for intruding into American citizen’s privacy in such an un-American way? Although the impact is similar to Mitt Romney’s comments that were secretly taped, the difference is that Romney was giving a public speech. The making and release of this tape is so sleazy that just listening to it makes me feel like an accomplice to the crime. We didn’t steal the cake but we’re all gorging ourselves on it.

Make no mistake: Donald Sterling is the villain of this story. But he’s just a handmaiden to the bigger evil. In our quest for social justice, we shouldn’t lose sight that racism is the true enemy. He’s just another jerk with more money than brains.

So, if we’re all going to be outraged, let’s be outraged that we weren’t more outraged when his racism was first evident. Let’s be outraged that private conversations between people in an intimate relationship are recorded and publicly played. Let’s be outraged that whoever did the betraying will probably get a book deal, a sitcom, trade recipes with Hoda and Kathie Lee, and soon appear on Celebrity Apprentice and Dancing with the Stars.

The big question is “What should be done next?” I hope Sterling loses his franchise. I hope whoever made this illegal tape is sent to prison. I hope the Clippers continue to be unconditionally supported by their fans. I hope the Clippers realize that the ramblings of an 80-year-old man jealous of his young girlfriend don’t define who they are as individual players or as a team. They aren’t playing for Sterling—they’re playing for themselves, for the fans, for showing the world that neither basketball, nor our American ideals, are defined by a few pathetic men or women.

Let’s use this tawdry incident to remind ourselves of the old saying: “Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.” Instead of being content to punish Sterling and go back to sleep, we need to be inspired to vigilantly seek out, expose, and eliminate racism at its first signs.


http://time.com/79590/donald-sterling-kareem-abdul-jabbar-racism/
Buckwheat Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 9:24 AM EST
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Well said. Murdock.
dstieger Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 9:27 AM EST
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Been a fan since I met him when he was Lew Alcindor. Good comments.
DrafterX Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 9:30 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:

So, if we’re all going to be outraged, let’s be outraged that we weren’t more outraged when his racism was first evident. Let’s be outraged that private conversations between people in an intimate relationship are recorded and publicly played. Let’s be outraged that whoever did the betraying will probably get a book deal, a sitcom, trade recipes with Hoda and Kathie Lee, and soon appear on Celebrity Apprentice and Dancing with the Stars.



That's alot of Outrage.... Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 9:34 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
That's alot of Outrage.... Mellow



I'm feeling a bit copyright infringed.
cacman Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 9:58 AM EST
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Not that I agree with his comments, but they where comments made during a PRIVATE discussion! IMHO it's nobody's business and IIRC it's illegal to record and publish someone's conversation without their permission. Media propaganda at its best, that also truly shows the hypocrisy of the NAACP. A $45,000 donation to the NAACP can get you a lifetime achievement award too.

The whole story stinks and shouldn't even be the front-page news it is. Who ever recorded and published the private comments should be up on charges, and that should be the news. It's nothing more than a gold-digging girlfriend looking for revenge.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 11:26 AM EST
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This would NEVER have happened under Stern's watchful eye!
Abrignac Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 12:26 PM EST
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Assuming the conversation happened in California the girlfriend who recorded the conversation may have a legal problem. In addition, it seems if he can prove it was used maliciously, a high hurdle in of itself, by someone/entity who came into possession of that recording, then that person/entity is also subject to penalties.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=630-638

Could reporting it be considered malicious? That's for the lawyers to decide. Can the NBA use an illegal recording to sanction him?

All that being said, hoof in mouth disease knows no bounds.

Sounds like boycotting the team will be the most effective way or those who want to sanction him. But, could he then sue those who call for a boycott based on an illegal recording?

Pass the popcorn, better yet I'm headed to Sam's Club to stock up. This will take some time to sort out.
tailgater Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 12:42 PM EST
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Back in my day, the racists didn't pay the Negros millions of dollars to pass a ball around.
Bitter Klinger Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 12:49 PM EST
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cacman wrote:
Not that I agree with his comments, but they where comments made during a PRIVATE discussion! IMHO it's nobody's business and IIRC it's illegal to record and publish someone's conversation without their permission. Media propaganda at its best, that also truly shows the hypocrisy of the NAACP. A $45,000 donation to the NAACP can get you a lifetime achievement award too.

The whole story stinks and shouldn't even be the front-page news it is. Who ever recorded and published the private comments should be up on charges, and that should be the news. It's nothing more than a gold-digging girlfriend looking for revenge.


The media loves the idea of silencing public opinions that don't mesh with their own. They alone shall convey our opinions for us. The ends justify the means.

The clip I heard was the guy saying not to invite black people just because they're black. Now, maybe there was more he said, I don't know. But that particular comment was not racist. What's racist is to invite anyone anywhere because of their skin color. That IS racist.

Further, electing a president because of his skin color is racist. Polls show a high 90s percentile of black voters elected someone they perceived to be black. THAT is racist. Where's the media outrage on that?
Bitter Klinger Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 12:50 PM EST
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This is another unicorn media issue.

We have bigger fish to fry...
tailgater Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 1:02 PM EST
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Bitter Klinger wrote:

The clip I heard was the guy saying not to invite black people just because they're black. Now, maybe there was more he said, I don't know. But that particular comment was not racist. What's racist is to invite anyone anywhere because of their skin color. That IS racist.



so, inviting someone based on skin color is racist. But NOT inviting someone based on skin color is not?


Jethro: "hey Bubba. Great party. Where's Leroy at?"
Bubba: "I didn't invite him. He's black, you know".
Jethro: "WHAT?" He's your best friend. Why'd you do that?"
Bubba: "I didn't want to be a racist".

Drool
victor809 Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 1:28 PM EST
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Bitter Klinger wrote:

The clip I heard was the guy saying not to invite black people just because they're black. Now, maybe there was more he said, I don't know. But that particular comment was not racist.


You've proven once again that you're not real bright.

Whatever the controversy is (don't care, didn't know the clippers had an owner until yesterday, still don't care that he's a white racist), your statement above is 100% incorrect.
dstieger Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 1:55 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You've proven once again that you're not real bright.

Whatever the controversy is (don't care, didn't know the clippers had an owner until yesterday, still don't care that he's a white racist), your statement above is 100% incorrect.



Incorrect, perhaps. But it made me laugh. And, really, that's the only reason I come in here.
jetblasted Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 9:05 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Well said. Murdock.

Huh ??
wheelrite Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 9:10 PM EST
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The Moral of this story,,,

Never Ever tell your 1/2 Black , 1/2 whatever else, slutt, that you don't wanna see her with a black dude in the seats you pay for,,,,,,

right ?


wheel,,
Abrignac Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 10:36 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
The Moral of this story,,,

Never Ever tell your 1/2 Black , 1/2 whatever else, slutt, that you don't wanna see her with a black dude in the seats you pay for,,,,,,

right ?


wheel,,


Sage advice
teedubbya Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Apr 29 2014, 10:59 PM EST
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Or maybe just be a decent human.
Bitter Klinger Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2014, 1:56 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You've proven once again that you're much smarter than I.

Whatever the controversy is (don't care, didn't know the clippers had an owner until yesterday, still don't care that he's a white racist), your statement above is 100% correct.



Thanks Vickie, I could go on about this but alas, I don't really care either and I'd hate to make you late to tailgaters vag shaving party.

Go do your homework, again. Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan
Bitter Klinger Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2014, 2:24 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
so, inviting someone based on skin color is racist. But NOT inviting someone based on skin color is not?


Jethro: "hey Bubba. Great party. Where's Leroy at?"
Bubba: "I didn't invite him. He's black, you know".
Jethro: "WHAT?" He's your best friend. Why'd you do that?"
Bubba: "I didn't want to be a racist".

Drool


Jeez, its tiring trying to explain to you libtards. But here, let me try again:

Inviting anyone anywhere based on skin color is racist.
NOT inviting anyone anywhere isn't anything - there was no action to classify as anything.

Here, maybe this will help:

Tailgater: Hey Vickie, will you come to my vag shaving party tonight? After all, my party needs an overweight, black transsexual to be a success!
Vickie: Well, I'd love to attend, but aren't you just inviting me because I'm black?
Tailgater: Oh no, I'm inviting you because you have a vag the needs shaving!
Vickie: Well then, I'm in, thanks tailgater. Hey everybody, creams on me!!

See, this was racist because tailgater asked Vickie to come because he/she/it is black. Even though it was hipocritically denied later. Libtards do that.

Now, in contrast this would be an example of NOT racist:

Tailgater: Hi Vickie.
Vickie: Hi Tailgater.
Tailgater: Shave your vag lately?
Vickie: Just the other night!

See? No one was invited, and it wasn't racist. Even thought Vickie IS an overweight black transexual.

No need to thank me - Glad I could help!
jetblasted Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2014, 2:54 AM EST
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BK ... Don't worry. They're still pissed off at Trent Lott for the whole Strom Thurmond thing ...
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2014, 3:33 AM EST
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remember branch rickey in 1947

and let's not forget President Truman in the 40's

and whether you like it or not President Obama integrating gay and lesbians in the 20's
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2014, 3:37 AM EST
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tailgater

"leroy?"
tailgater Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2014, 11:44 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
tailgater

"leroy?"



You prefer Tyrone?
tailgater Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2014, 11:52 AM EST
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Bitter Klinger wrote:


...
NOT inviting anyone anywhere isn't anything - there was no action to classify as anything.




I'd like to ask permission to quote this.
frankj1 Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2014, 12:24 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I'd like to ask permission to quote this.








granted
Buckwheat Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2014, 2:12 PM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
Huh ??


Kareem played Roger Murdock in Airplane. http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0073068/ Great bit in a great movie.
DrafterX Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2014, 2:57 PM EST
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Joey: Wait a minute. I know you. You're Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. You play basketball for the Los Angeles Lakers.

Roger Murdock: I'm sorry, son, but you must have me confused with someone else. My name is Roger Murdock. I'm the co-pilot.

Joey: You are Kareem! I've seen you play. My dad's got season tickets.

Roger Murdock: I think you should go back to your seat now, Joey. Right, Clarence?

Captain Oveur: Nahhhhhh, he's not bothering anyone. Let him stay here.

Roger Murdock: But just remember, my name is...

[showing his nametag]

Roger Murdock: ROGER MURDOCK. I'm an airline pilot.

Joey: I think you're the greatest, but my dad says you don't work hard enough on defense.

[Kareem gets angry]

Joey: And he says that lots of times, you don't even run down court. And that you don't really try... except during the playoffs.

Roger Murdock: [breaking character] The hell I don't! LISTEN, KID! I've been hearing that crap ever since I was at UCLA. I'm out there busting my buns every night. Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes.

Laugh
jetblasted Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2014, 3:59 PM EST
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What's the vector, victor ?

Roger !

Huh ?
Gene363 Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Apr 30 2014, 9:27 PM EST
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More at: http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/28/kareem-abdul-jabbar-blasts-sleazy-media-glee-over-sterlings-private-racism/
victor809 Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, May 2 2014, 7:51 PM EST
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Let's get back to where bitter called tailgater a libtard. That amused me.
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