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"We hate her,".....
DrafterX Offline
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Veterans see red as Jane Fonda tapped to speak to UCLA grads
Published June 02, 2014


Jane Fonda, now 76, was a film superstar from Hollywood royalty in 1973, when she went to visit with the enemy in Vietnam. (AP)

Vietnam veterans in California are furious all over again with Jane Fonda, after the actress was chosen to speak this month at a UCLA graduation ceremony.

Fonda, who in 1972 traveled to Hanoi, Vietnam, to meet with enemy soldiers and called American soldiers "war criminals," has been picked to be the graduation speaker at UCLA’s School of Theater, Film and Television’s commencement ceremony on June 13.


"We hate her," Nick Callas, 67, president of the Santa Clarita chapter of Vietnam Veterans of America, told FoxNews.com. "We won't ever see any of her movies or support anything she did. It makes me sick to see her get this kind of recognition.

It was Fonda's journey to Vietnam, as American soldiers were dying in the jungles of Southeast Asia and the nation was becoming increasingly disillusioned with the war, that veterans like Callas will never forget -- or forgive. Fonda famously posed near a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun. Although she has apologized since, many veterans believe she helped lift the enemy's spirits while demoralizing those of young Americans.

The actress told Oprah Winfrey in 2013 she made an "unforgivable mistake," saying she was taken to a North Vietnam military site during the last day of her visit, despite her objections.

"I was an emotional wreck by [then]," Fonda told Winfrey last year. "I don't know if I was set up or not. I was an adult. I take responsibility for my actions."

But the propaganda photo that resulted from that trip is forever etched in the memories of Vietnam veterans.

"Those apologies were strictly damage control," said Callas, who did three tours of duty as an Air Force medic from 1966-67. "People lost their lives because of her, and none of us will ever forget that."

John Crooker, first vice president of the California State Council of Vietnam Veterans of America, said he would never forgive Fonda. Crookerserved one tour in the Army from 1968 to 1969, and remembers later reading about Fonda's appearance in Stars and Stripes.

"She was young and stupid, but that's no excuse," said Crooker, 69, of Santa Rosa. "I don't know of any Vietnam veterans who have anything good to say about her."

But UCLA is thrilled to have the Academy Award-winning actress address its film school grads.

“We are truly honored to have Jane Fonda speak at this year’s commencement ceremony,” said Teri Schwartz, dean of UCLA School of Theater, Film and Television. “Jane is a visionary and a remarkable artist who has spent her life telling deeply powerful stories that have moved and inspired audiences worldwide to action for the greater good and to a greater understanding of our common humanity through her films, philanthropic efforts and personal journeys.”

Not surprisingly, those posting on the “Vets Boycotting Hanoi Jane Fonda” Facebook page were more in line with Callas.

“Please tell me this is a joke,” administrators of the page posted May 30. “We have to make a stand.”

The post had hundreds of "likes" by Monday.


Film at 11.... Mellow
jackconrad Offline
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she's a embarrassment to ournation,,
DrafterX Offline
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she said she was just kiddin.... Mellow
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I think she has 1 of the funniest unintended lines ever. If I remember correctly she was on the Michael Douglas show. She said something like I pray to God we become Communists.
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Are any Vietnam Vets graduating from UCLA this year?
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maybe... prolly a couple teaching there I bet... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
maybe... prolly a couple teaching there I bet... Mellow


Possibly...
ZRX1200 Offline
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Victor thinks vets are dumb?
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That's what I heard... Mellow
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Victor thinks vets are dumb?


Well, I wasn't saying that, but you could probably make an argument that drafted vietnam vets were statistically less successful academically than the average population... (dodging the draft was a big reason to hit college in that time period. One could surmise that drafting would then pull from the pool of people who couldn't make it in).
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I think Victor was stating the obvious. Whether Vietnam veterans are angry or not that Jane Fonda is addressing UCLA film school graduates is not important. This event is about the graduating students and what they want. If it was an event for Vietnam veterans they the situation would be entirely different and her presence there would be wrong.
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I'll let my uncles know next time I visit the VA cemetery.

They volunteered, one even lied about his age.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I'll let my uncles know next time I visit the VA cemetery.

They volunteered, one even lied about his age.


You're gonna tell them about Jane Fonda addressing the UCLA film students? You sure they're gonna care?
ZRX1200 Offline
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Yeah exactly what I said .......you must have deferred.
tailgater Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Well, I wasn't saying that, but you could probably make an argument that drafted vietnam vets were statistically less successful academically than the average population... (dodging the draft was a big reason to hit college in that time period. One could surmise that drafting would then pull from the pool of people who couldn't make it in).


Yeah. Because economics had nothing to do with it.

And if we're going to discuss education, did Hanoi Jane even finish college? I thought she dropped out?

But, oh, I'm sorry. She's a "visionary" (from the first post).
I say BS. She's going to speak because she's a famous moon-bat and the lefties at UCLA just LOVE that.

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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghd-xL5gAjc
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tailgater wrote:
Yeah. Because economics had nothing to do with it.



Of course economics had something to do with it. But economics frequently tracks with academic success as well. We're talking statistics here, large numbers. The draft increased the incentive to go to college for a lot of people. Anyone who wanted to dodge the draft either left the country, came up with a medical excuse, or, if they had the grades went to college. This would remove a higher percentage of people with academic success from the pool. Thus, the average academic success for that pool will go down.

Why the hell does everyone always get their panties wadded when you talk about statistics, as if an average across a group is an insult to their special flower?

On average, students from low income schools have lower SAT scores than from high income schools. Does that mean that Pauly Poor's test score is low? No, he may have a 1600. Does that mean Rebecca Rich's test score is high? No, she may have a 400. But the averages across their groups will still stand.

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As stated before, Jane makes a great urinal sticker!

Personally pizzzed on her many times!
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It is well documented that Fonda speaking out against the Vietnam War caused large numbers of students to drop out of school, never to return.

She is more unpatriotic then a minimum wage.
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Brewha wrote:
It is well documented that Fonda speaking out against the Vietnam War caused large numbers of students to drop out of school, never to return.

She is more unpatriotic then a minimum wage.


That B#tch!
:)
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