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DrMaddVibe Offline
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Iraqi Militants Seize Government Headquarters In Mosul


BAGHDAD (AP) — In a stunning assault that exposed Iraq's eroding central authority, al-Qaida-inspired militants overran much of Mosul on Tuesday, seizing government buildings, pushing out security forces and capturing military vehicles as thousands of residents fled the second-largest city.

The rampage by the black banner-waving insurgents was a heavy defeat for Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki as he tries to hold onto power, and highlighted the growing strength of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. The group has been advancing in both Iraq and neighboring Syria, capturing territory in a campaign to set up a militant enclave straddling the border.

There were no immediate estimates on how many people were killed in the assault, a stark reminder of the reversals in Iraq since U.S. forces left in late 2011.

Earlier this year, Islamic State fighters took control of Fallujah, and government forces have been unable to take it back.

Mosul is a much bigger, more strategic prize. The city and surrounding Ninevah province, which is on the doorstep of Iraq's relatively prosperous Kurdish region, are a major export route for Iraqi oil and a gateway to Syria.

"This isn't Fallujah. This isn't a place you can just cordon off and forget about," said Michael Knights, a regional security analyst at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. "It's essential to Iraq."

Al-Maliki pressed parliament to declare a state of emergency that would grant him greater powers, saying the public and government must unite "to confront this vicious attack, which will spare no Iraqi." Legal experts said these powers could include imposing curfews, restricting public movements and censoring the media.

State TV said lawmakers would convene Thursday. Parliament speaker Osama al-Nujaifi, a Sunni from Mosul, called the rout "a disaster by any standard."

Regaining Mosul poses a daunting challenge for the Shiite prime minister. The city of about 1.4 milliion has a Sunni Muslim majority and many in the community are already deeply embittered against his Shiite-led government. During the nearly nine-year American presence in the country, Mosul was a major stronghold for al-Qaida. U.S. and Iraqi forces carried out repeated offensives there, regaining a semblance of control but never routing the insurgents entirely.

"It's going to be difficult to reconstitute the forces to clear and hold the city," Knights said. "There aren't a lot of spare forces around Iraq."

White House spokesman Josh Earnest deplored what he called the "despicable" acts of violence against civilians in Mosul. He said Washington is committed to its partnership with Baghdad but is urging the government to take steps to be more inclusive of all Iraqis.

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon condemned the attacks across Iraq in recent days "that have killed and wounded scores of civilians." He urged all political leaders "to show national unity against the threats facing Iraq, which can only be addressed on the basis of the constitution and within the democratic political process," according to U.N. spokesman Stephane Dujarric.


Insurgents and Iraqi troops have been fighting for days in Mosul, but the security forces' hold appeared to collapse late Monday night and early Tuesday.

Gunmen overran the Ninevah provincial government building — a key symbol of state control — Monday evening, and the governor fled the city. The fighters stormed police stations, bases and prisons, capturing weapons and freeing inmates. Security forces melted away, abandoning many of their posts, and militants seized large caches of weapons.

They took control of the city's airport and captured helicopters, as well as an airbase 60 kilometers (40 miles) south of the city, the parliament speaker said.

Later Tuesday, Islamic State fighters took over the large town of Hawija, 125 kilometers (75 miles) south of Mosul, according to officials there.

On Tuesday, the militants appeared to hold much of the eastern half of Mosul, which is bisected by the Tigris River. Residents said fighters were raising the black banners that are the emblem of the Islamic State.

Video taken from a car driving through the streets of Mosul and posted online showed burning vehicles in the streets, black-masked gunmen in pickup trucks mounted with anti-aircraft guns, and residents walking with suitcases.

ISIL supporters posted photos on social media showing fighters next to Humvees and other U.S.-made military vehicles captured from Iraqi forces.

The video and photos appeared authentic and matched Associated Press reporting of the events.

A government employee who lives about a mile from the provincial headquarters, Umm Karam, said she left with her family Tuesday morning.

"The situation is chaotic inside the city and there is nobody to help us," she said "We are afraid. ... There is no police or army in Mosul." She spoke on condition she be identified only by her nickname for fear of her safety.

An estimated 500,000 people have fled Mosul, according to a U.N. spokesman in New York, citing the International Organization for Migration. The spokesman said aid organizations hope to reach those in need with food, water, sanitation and other essential supplies as soon as the volatile security situation permits.

The Islamic State has ramped up its insurgency over the past two years, presenting itself as the Sunni community's champion against al-Maliki's government

The group was once al-Qaida's branch in Iraq, but under its leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi it has escalated its ambitions, sending fighters into Syria to join the rebellion against President Bashar Assad. Its jihadists became notorious as some of the most ruthless fighters in the rebellion — and other rebels turned against it, accusing it of trying to hijack the movement. Al-Qaida's central command, angered over its intervention in Syria, threw the group out of the terrorist network.

But it has been making gains on both sides of the border. In Syria, it took control of an eastern provincial capital of Raqqa, and in the past month it has launched an offensive working its way toward the Iraqi border.

Islamic State fighters in eastern Syria crossed into Iraq to help their brethren in the Mosul area, activists on the Syrian side said. They tried to take the border crossing itself, but Kurdish fighters on either side fended them off. The militants were able to seize the nearest Iraqi town to the border, Rabeea, the activists said.

The group earlier this year took over Fallujah and parts of Sunni-dominated Anbar province, and has stepped up its long-running campaign of bombings and other violence in Baghdad and elsewhere.

The Mosul crisis comes as al-Maliki is working to assemble a coalition after elections in late April, relying even more on Shiite parties. Sunnis and Kurds have grown increasingly disillusioned with al-Maliki, accusing him of dominating power.

The autonomous Kurdish region in the north has its own armed forces — the peshmerga — and on Tuesday, the region's prime minister suggested his willingness to intervene beyond the formal borders of the self-ruled enclave. That could be politically explosive, since the Mosul region lies on Kurdistan's doorstep, has a significant Kurdish population, and the Kurds claim parts of the area.

Militant gains in territories the Kurds consider theirs could push them "to send in their own troops to protect communities they consider as part of their jurisdiction," said Jordan Perry, an analyst at risk analysis firm Maplecroft.

Kurdistan's prime minister, Nechirvan Barzani, sharply criticized Baghdad's handling of the Mosul crisis, saying the Kurds had tried unsuccessfully to work with Iraqi security forces to protect the city.

"Tragically, Baghdad adopted a position which has prevented the establishment of this cooperation," he said in a statement.

Barzani urged the Kurds to aid those displaced from Mosul and called on the U.N. refugee agency to help with the relief effort. He said the peshmerga are prepared to handle security in areas outside the regional government's jurisdiction — presumably referring to parts around Mosul inhabited by Kurds that are disputed with the central government.

Kurdish official Razgar Khoushnaw said about 10,000 Mosul residents took refuge Tuesday in the Kurdish province of Irbil, while security officials in neighboring Dahuk province said 5,000 displaced people were let in there.

Far larger numbers of people are believed to have fled Mosul for other communities in the Ninevah countryside.

In a nationally televised press conference, al-Maliki asked parliament to convene an urgent session to declare a state of emergency. "Iraqi is undergoing a difficult stage," he said, acknowledging that militants had taken control of "vital areas in Mosul," and saying the public and government must unite "to confront this vicious attack, which will spare no Iraqi."

Under the constitution, parliament can declare a 30-day state of emergency on a two-thirds vote by its members, granting the prime minister the necessary powers to run the country.

The insurgents took control of Mosul's government complex for northern Ninevah province — a key symbol of state authority — late Monday after days of fighting in the city, 360 kilometers (225 miles) northwest of Baghdad. On Tuesday, Mosul residents said the militants appeared to be in control of several parts of the city, raising the black banners that are the emblem of the Islamic State. The residents spoke to The Associated Press by telephone on condition of anonymity, fearing for their safety.

The gunmen overran police stations and several prisons, setting free detainees who were seen running in the streets in their yellow-jumpsuits, the residents said.

The fighters also seized helicopters at Mosul airport and seized weapons depots, parliament speaker Osama al-Nujaifi — a Sunni from Mosul — said in a televised address. South of Mosul, several villages and a military air base around the town of Shurqat, in Salahuddin province, also fell to militants, al-Nujaifi said.

"What happened is a disaster by any standard," he said. "The presence of these terrorist groups in this vast province ... threatens not just the security and the unity of Iraq, but the whole Middle East."

Mosul — with its surrounding Ninevah province — is a key strategic area, a gateway to neighboring Syria, where Islamic State has also grabbed swaths of territory. The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant has been behind a wave of violence in Iraq, claiming to be the champion for Iraq's large and disaffected Sunni minority against the Shiite-led government, and it is also considered one of the most ruthless rebel forces fighting to topple President Bashar Assad in Syria.

Umm Karam, a government employee who lives about two kilometers (just over a mile) from the provincial headquarters, said her family decided to flee the city early on Tuesday after hearing about the government building's fall.

"The situation is chaotic inside the city and there is nobody to help us," the Christian mother of two said, using a nickname out of concern for her safety. "We are afraid ... There is no police or army in Mosul."

Another elderly resident, speaking by phone after she and her family fled the city on foot to a nearby village Tuesday, said the city was without electricity and water.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/10/iraq-insurgency_n_5477153.html



5 to 1? Nero at least fiddled while Rome burned.
gryphonms Offline
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Doc, while all of the above is true I simply do not want any more American soldiers to die for Iraq. I do wish the press could move on from the prisoner exchange.
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Follow the bouncing ball OUTRAGE!
DrafterX Offline
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that's an awful lot of readin... Unsure
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I'm Shocked......shocked I tell you!! Who'd a thunk there would ever be more unrest in Iraq.....after all we wooped em soundly and help set up good strong Governing body..... I figured the West would be vacationing there soon!! Whistle
MACS Offline
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Yeah... sunni and shiite have been fighting for thousands of years.

One good spanking fixed that good, didn't it. Sarcasm

Total waste of time, resources, and most importantly AMERICAN LIVES.
fiddler898 Offline
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DMV, it's not just the media ranting... And I agree, what' storing on in Iraq is more than alarming. Guess those WMDs would come in mighty handy right about now.
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This is what happens when you stop a war.


Stay tuned for Part II!
DrMaddVibe Offline
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gryphonms wrote:
Doc, while all of the above is true I simply do not want any more American soldiers to die for Iraq. I do wish the press could move on from the prisoner exchange.


I don't think it's worth another American life either. I'm all in favor of seeing if those nukes we have are still fresh. They might not be. Maybe we have a bad batch...who knows. We haven't fired one in awhile. We could have a Big Tent Sale and give the world a 2-For-1 dealio. Sail one into Saddam's old neighborhood and reduce the opium fields in Afghanistan into a glass parking lot...what the hell...order now and we'll toss in a free one at Syria and some Ginsu knives! They slice, they dice and make Julianne fries!!!

Operators are standing by!


The whole AWOL soldier deal makes me want to vomit...anyone watch "Wag The Dog"? THAT'S exactly what's going on right now...it's nauseating. We've been had...bamboozled...lead astray...we've been hoodwinked!
Buckwheat Offline
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gryphonms wrote:
Doc, while all of the above is true I simply do not want any more American soldiers to die for Iraq. I do wish the press could move on from the prisoner exchange.


+1. Ultimately they have to stand up on their own or they will always be a "little people"; to quote The Lawrence of Arabia movie. Boo hoo!
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Buckwheat wrote:
+1. Ultimately they have to stand up on their own or they will always be a "little people"; to quote The Lawrence of Arabia movie. Boo hoo!




Pssst...they were and always will be "little people"!!!!!
Buckwheat Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Pssst...they were and always will be "little people"!!!!!



Here is the whole quote from the movie, "Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people--greedy, barborous and cruel."

ram27bat
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Buckwheat wrote:
Here is the whole quote from the movie, "Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people--greedy, barborous and cruel."

ram27bat



Doesn't change much...does it?

Let's light this thing...here...hold my beer...whip
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Obama ignored advice of military & CIA against Bergdahl prisoner swap


The Obama administration’s release of five senior Taliban terrorists from Guantanoma Bay in exchange for the Taliban’s freeing of U.S. Army deserter Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl not only is in violation of a federal law (Sec. 1035 of the 2014 National Defense Authorization Act), the prisoner swap also went against explicit advice of senior U.S. military and intelligence leaders.



FOX News reports, June 6, 2014:

Senior military officials had advised President Obama not to make the Taliban-for-Bergdahl trade, a senior Defense official told Fox News, likening it to “handing over five four-star generals of the Taliban.”

The claim adds to the picture that is emerging about the tense internal debate over whether to proceed with freeing five hardened Taliban leaders from Guantanamo in exchange for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl’s release.

Sources told Fox News earlier this week that the Obama administration largely bypassed the intelligence community to green-light the swap, after such an exchange was first floated several years ago.

The Defense official, in explaining internal military opposition to the exchange, said many in the military considered Bergdahl to be a traitor — a reference to allegations that he deliberately abandoned his post in 2009.

Yet on the other end of the trade were five high-value, sought-after Taliban leaders. The U.S. government’s own records show some of them had ties to top terror figures including Mullah Omar and Usama bin Laden. [...]

According to secret documents prepared on the basis of a purported eyewitness account and obtained by Fox News, Bergdahl at one point during his captivity converted to Islam, fraternized openly with his captors and declared himself a “mujahid,” or warrior for Islam. [...]

The reports indicate that Bergdahl’s relations with his Haqqani captors morphed over time, from periods of hostility, where he was treated very much like a hostage, to periods where, as one source told Fox News, “he became much more of an accepted fellow” than is popularly understood. He even reportedly was allowed to carry a gun at times. [...]

Amid concerns that the Bergdahl trade has created huge security risks, President Obama said earlier this week that the U.S. would be “keeping eyes” on the Taliban members while they spend the next year in Qatar. At the same time, he acknowledged there’s “absolutely” a risk that the former Guantanamo inmates will try to return to the battlefield.

Some of them reportedly already have made that vow. NBC reported Friday that Noorullah Noori, one of the freed prisoners, pledged to return and fight Americans in Afghanistan, according to a Taliban commander.

Worse still, the Obama administration may have paid a ransom for the release of Bergdahl.

Fox News reports that the U.S. paying a cash ransom for Bergdahl was under discussion as recently as December of last year. But according to the Washington Free Beacon, a senior US intelligence official with extensive experience dealing with Bergdahl’s captors, the Haqqanis, believes that cash changed hands as part of the deal.

He said, “The Haqqanis could give a rat’s ass about prisoners. The people that are holding Bergdahl want[ed] cash and someone paid it to them.” A number of news reports on the prisoner exchange mistakenly have used “Haqqani” and “Taliban” interchangeably. The Obama administration might not have paid ransom to the Taliban, but most likely had paid cash to the Haqqanis. The intelligence official explains: Haqqani “benefits zero from the prisoner exchange. … Based on 10 years of working with those guys, the only thing that would make them move Bergdahl is money. We just funded them for the next 10 years is my guess.”

http://cofda.wordpress.com/2014/06/09/obama-ignored-advice-of-military-cia-against-bergdahl-prisoner-swap/

DrafterX Offline
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That Bassard..!! Mad
teedubbya Offline
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those darn "senior military officials"
MACS Offline
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The idiotic things he has done speak for themselves. Just add this to the list.
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