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victor809 Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Aug 15 2014, 12:05 PM EST
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http://www.caintv.com/mcdonalds-now-testing-automate
gryphonms Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Aug 15 2014, 12:38 PM EST
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Had not thought of that but it makes sense. Supply and demand dictates value, not legislation. Interesting that the possibility of a higher minimum wage will decrease the number of minimum wage jobs.
danmdevries Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Aug 15 2014, 1:04 PM EST
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Will it dispense super bigass fries?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gyAs9fb81TY/UWDqoX7MlPI/AAAAAAAABKQ/guHZCJR08UM/s1600/carls_jr_idiocracy_kiosk.png
opelmanta1900 Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Aug 15 2014, 1:11 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
http://www.caintv.com/mcdonalds-now-testing-automate


this is my favorite story of the day... I worked at a pizza place fresh out of high school, and a monkey could have done my job! I would have been an idiot not to be happy with the $8/hour I was getting and all the free pizza I could smuggle out...

I really think the problem is that everyone wants every job to pay great and offer excellent opportunities...

some jobs are just meant to be performed by teenagers living in their parents house still... they're not meant for a grown man to support a family with...
DrafterX Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Aug 15 2014, 1:22 PM EST
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I thought this about cookies..... I Want My Cookie Dammit..!! Mad
Gene363 Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Aug 15 2014, 1:34 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I thought this about cookies..... I Want My Cookie Dammit..!! Mad


Yeah! Where the cookies at? Mad
victor809 Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Aug 15 2014, 1:36 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
this is my favorite story of the day... I worked at a pizza place fresh out of high school, and a monkey could have done my job! I would have been an idiot not to be happy with the $8/hour I was getting and all the free pizza I could smuggle out...

I really think the problem is that everyone wants every job to pay great and offer excellent opportunities...

some jobs are just meant to be performed by teenagers living in their parents house still... they're not meant for a grown man to support a family with...


I will admit to a little smugness when I saw that.

It's unfortunate, but it would have happened anyway. The increased minimum wage just sped it up a little. Given enough time, the technology would have become cheap enough that it would have happened at the prior minimum wage.

Hell, WaWa has had similar kiosks for a few years now.
Abrignac Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Aug 15 2014, 2:18 PM EST
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Ask & you will receive. It's all about hope and change baby, hope & change.
ZRX1200 Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Aug 15 2014, 2:33 PM EST
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I want my damn snickerdoodle,!
jetblasted Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Aug 15 2014, 5:14 PM EST
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I thought this was about Fergeson MO ... I want my cookie, too
jackconrad Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Aug 15 2014, 9:41 PM EST
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They could not possibly be as bad as the real help..
frankj1 Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Aug 15 2014, 9:45 PM EST
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years ago, banks introduced ATMs claiming they would save money because they would eliminate the necessity of paying humans to do the same job. The inference was we'd all save on service fees.

Once established and accepted by customers, they started charging fees to use them, as if they were suddenly an expensive convenience they were offering us and just wanted to recoup the expense of these cost saving devices...can you say new revenue stream?

It is said you can't have it both ways, but they pulled it off. I don't go to Macs or any equivalent, but if I did I'd pass on using the automated ordering system. I am hardly against businesses making profits, but I will not support those that are determined to eliminate jobs while blaming greedy workers.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Aug 15 2014, 11:46 PM EST
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jackconrad wrote:
They could not possibly be as bad as the real help..


^This... Frank, if you go to a McDonalds (which I highly recommend against) you will be begging for these machines... my experience has been that what little english fast food workers know, they usually use to tell you they're out of something...
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Aug 16 2014, 7:32 AM EST
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What's the big deal? Arby's has been doing this for about 25 years. Their original systems allowed around 6-8 customers to punch in their own orders simultaneously on touch screens and a single cashier would handle the money for all of the stations. They've been running fully automated ones similar to McDonald's where the kiosk handles the money for about 5 years now in select locations.
frankj1 Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Aug 16 2014, 8:06 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
^This... Frank, if you go to a McDonalds (which I highly recommend against) you will be begging for these machines... my experience has been that what little english fast food workers know, they usually use to tell you they're out of something...

no doubt you are correct. hope I never have the experience.
Gene363 Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Aug 16 2014, 10:07 AM EST
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While a robotic cook might drop a little metal dust or oil on my burger it will never spit on my burger, drop a roach on my burger or pick it up off the floor.

Honestly, except for getting teenagers some work experience, fast food joints are pretty miserable places to work. For other places like In and Out, Five Guys and Freddy's Steakburgers, they will be able to advertise, "Hand made food."
opelmanta1900 Offline
#17 Posted: Sat, Aug 16 2014, 10:14 AM EST
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that's not that bad... the real crime is that the guy making your food has never once in his life washed his hands after taking a sh*t... no joke... I have employed several people in the food manufacturing industry from other countries and I kid you not, you could threaten the lives of their families and they're still not going to wash their hands after using the bathroom... they think it's funny... they've also been known to sh*t in the corner of a toilet stall instead of in the toilet itself... it's wonderful...
Gene363 Offline
#18 Posted: Sat, Aug 16 2014, 10:28 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
that's not that bad... the real crime is that the guy making your food has never once in his life washed his hands after taking a sh*t... no joke... I have employed several people in the food manufacturing industry from other countries and I kid you not, you could threaten the lives of their families and they're still not going to wash their hands after using the bathroom... they think it's funny... they've also been known to sh*t in the corner of a toilet stall instead of in the toilet itself... it's wonderful...


True, and there are people like that born and raised in the USA... even on among the ranks of professionals.
HockeyDad Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Aug 16 2014, 2:37 PM EST
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Poor Brewha
TMCTLT Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, Aug 17 2014, 8:23 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
years ago, banks introduced ATMs claiming they would save money because they would eliminate the necessity of paying humans to do the same job. The inference was we'd all save on service fees.

Once established and accepted by customers, they started charging fees to use them, as if they were suddenly an expensive convenience they were offering us and just wanted to recoup the expense of these cost saving devices...can you say new revenue stream?

It is said you can't have it both ways, but they pulled it off. I don't go to Macs or any equivalent, but if I did I'd pass on using the automated ordering system. I am hardly against businesses making profits, but I will not support those that are determined to eliminate jobs while blaming greedy workers.




Exactly...Applause
tailgater Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Aug 17 2014, 2:21 PM EST
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People will do the job.
Until a machine can do it cheaper and/or better.

If an increase in the minimum wage expedites this process, so be it.
This is nothing more than economic Darwinism and we should be neither surprised, nor outraged.
HockeyDad Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Aug 17 2014, 4:51 PM EST
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The machines will eventually feed off the people.
dkeage Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Aug 17 2014, 5:27 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
The machines will eventually feed off the people.

Why do I hear Charleston Heston?
danmdevries Offline
#24 Posted: Sun, Aug 17 2014, 6:49 PM EST
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Soylent Green?
MACS Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Aug 22 2014, 11:11 AM EST
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I'd like a peanut butter cookie, please.
jetblasted Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Aug 22 2014, 2:27 PM EST
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I heard the employees that demonstrate these machines to their customers will be paid $15/hr

Mellow
delta1 Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Aug 22 2014, 8:05 PM EST
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Anybody remember when gas stations had attendants who washed your windows, checked your oil, and your tires while the gas was pumping? And a gallon of gas was about 25 cents.
delta1 Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Aug 22 2014, 8:08 PM EST
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Pretty soon, machines will be making pizza, of all things...
jetblasted Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Aug 22 2014, 8:20 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Anybody remember when gas stations had attendants who washed your windows, checked your oil, and your tires while the gas was pumping? And a gallon of gas was about 25 cents.


That was my 1st job . . . But gas was 34 cents then.

fog
danmdevries Offline
#30 Posted: Fri, Aug 22 2014, 9:03 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Pretty soon, machines will be making pizza, of all things...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7_lxiU8eLM
delta1 Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Aug 22 2014, 10:34 PM EST
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WTH??? Were are so f'ed. With so many unemployed Italians, I predict the Mafia will return in big way...
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