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Scotland voting this week to separate or not from England.
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gryphonms Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 12:30 PM EST
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It will be interesting if they do separate. It may cause significant issues for the EU and NATO.
BuckyB93 Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 12:33 PM EST
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If they do separate, Vladimir Putin already called dibs

(can't take credit, heard it on Jimmy Kimmel or something like that).
sd72 Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 12:38 PM EST
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I think they realize they'll plummet into bankruptcy, and vote to stay. More interesting, if the vote included England, polls show they would overwhelmingly dump Scotland.

There was talk of a shared power/authority between the two, with one province wanting to secede from both.
DrafterX Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 12:41 PM EST
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are they gonna dig a canal or somethin..?? Huh
sd72 Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 12:42 PM EST
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Prolly. If England will pay for it.
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 12:43 PM EST
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Think
I think they call them moats over there......Think
sd72 Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 12:43 PM EST
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Don't forget, England's main ballistic missile defense base is in,........

Scotland.
dstieger Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 12:44 PM EST
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I've been yawning for weeks. Hard to muster much outrage. For me, the most interesting aspect of the story has been that they are allowing 16 year olds to vote this issue. What???? And they think they are ready to be independent? Seems to be a gross display of poor judgement right there. I am not all that comfortable letting 18 year olds help decide our fate. I can rarely count on my 20+ year old to make good choices in rather simple scenarios. They're fd. But I don't much care at the moment.
DrafterX Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 12:46 PM EST
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ya.... not sure they have anything I really need over there.... Mellow
dstieger Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 12:47 PM EST
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Right? Pudding made from sheep guts, skirts for men and bagpipes.....what else is there?
sd72 Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 12:48 PM EST
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They have 52 of our trident nuclear missiles. You might want those back.
DrafterX Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 1:00 PM EST
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we'll make more... Mellow
sd72 Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 1:04 PM EST
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Then I guess we're all set.
jetblasted Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 1:37 PM EST
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If they do vote to secede, will David Cameron invade their country, declare total war, commit genocide on women, children & the elderly, kill all the livestock, destroy any means of producing food, poison their land and burn their cities?

Just curious . . .
DrafterX Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 1:47 PM EST
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They're prolly gonna need torches & pitchforks at some point.... Mellow
gryphonms Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 1:58 PM EST
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Good point or should I say points?
victor809 Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 3:30 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
Right? Pudding made from sheep guts, skirts for men and bagpipes.....what else is there?


Ummm...

Single Malt????

WTF ???? How could you be so blase about the world's entire production capability of single malt be put at such risk?!?!? What happens if some dictator rises to power and starts an embargo against the US, resttricting my access to scotch?!?!?


I say we invade scotland immediately! I want troops on the ground! Smart bombs in their sheep! I want a listening device in every damn bagpipe and a drone monitoring every damn kilt!
victor809 Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 3:35 PM EST
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http://nypost.com/2014/09/16/price-of-scotch-whisky-could-skyrocket-if-scotland-secedes/

DAMMIT!!!!
dstieger Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 3:41 PM EST
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Blase-tivity comes from 10 years of sobriety.....truly sorry that I hadn't considered all the ramifications
DrafterX Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 3:54 PM EST
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Ram is Scottish..?? Huh
wheelrite Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 10:17 PM EST
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I love Scotch

wheel,
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 11:46 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
http://nypost.com/2014/09/16/price-of-scotch-whisky-could-skyrocket-if-scotland-secedes/

DAMMIT!!!!

Well, you'll always have vodka.
and gin.
and tequila.
and rum.
and bourbon.
and akvavit.
but mainly vodka, since it's ok to make it here.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Sep 17 2014, 11:52 PM EST
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I think victor is more of a zima and amyl nitrate kinda guy...
victor809 Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Sep 18 2014, 12:09 AM EST
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I've only had each of those once.

The zima when I was young and stupid.

The amyl nitrate ... Well that's not a story for a faceless forum.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Sep 18 2014, 12:16 AM EST
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LOL
gryphonms Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Sep 18 2014, 9:30 AM EST
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If they vote to separate I will go into Scotch hoarding mode immediately. My existing 7 bottles is clearly not enough.
wheelrite Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Sep 18 2014, 10:02 AM EST
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16 year old kids are eligible to vote in Scotland,,,

no more "United Kingdom"


wheel,,
DrafterX Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Sep 18 2014, 10:10 AM EST
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there's a push for 16 year olds to vote in Maryland also... and no ID required... Mellow
CelticBomber Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Sep 18 2014, 11:30 AM EST
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Scotland also has control of the North Sea oil and natural gas reserves. They are betting on their oil reserves to keep their economy from collapsing if they do vote to secede. But, experts say that Scotland is vastly over estimating how much oil they have left. Supposedly they only have about 15 billion barrels of recoverable oil left. That's maybe another 35 years worth and then it's gone. Right now the UK uses these oil reserves as collateral to obtain cheap loans. If Scotland does secede England will no longer be able to use those oil fields as collateral which will speed up inflation and cause higher taxes in England and Scotland. Right now Scotland spends more on social services than it brings in. Things taken for granted now like free tuition and other public programs will be doomed. Scotland also doesn't control it's own national banks. During the bubble burst in 2008 1 of the 2 national banks they have was nationalized by the English parliament and the other was bought outright by another English bank. I honestly don't know which side to root for. I understand wanting to have a country of your own and control over your own destiny but at the same time they've been part of the UK for so long that to separate now or at any time in the future is just going to be a disaster. There are so many things intertwined between the 2 countries that it might be to late to try and pull them apart without destroying them both.
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#30 Posted: Thu, Sep 18 2014, 12:48 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Ram is Scottish..?? Huh



he prefers the term frugal.
jetblasted Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Sep 18 2014, 4:12 PM EST
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If it ain't Scottish, It's CRRAAAPPPPP !!!!!!

ram27bat
Cigar2014 Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Sep 24 2014, 1:27 AM EST
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what you guys were missing here was I call 'true po-le-tics' 50+ of the house of commons [like house of rep to us] are from Scottland, most of them are very "left-leaning" it would be like think of that here next election the Dem-left would stop at noting to not let that happen!! regradless of the peoples opion!!
DrafterX Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Sep 24 2014, 8:21 AM EST
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Think
fiddler898 Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, Sep 24 2014, 8:32 AM EST
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Cigar2014 wrote:
what you guys were missing here was I call 'true po-le-tics' 50+ of the house of commons [like house of rep to us] are from Scottland, most of them are very "left-leaning" it would be like think of that here next election the Dem-left would stop at noting to not let that happen!! regradless of the peoples opion!!



Think +1
Cigar2014 Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Sep 25 2014, 3:28 AM EST
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Maybe I didnt explain what was trying to say hear lol..alrite think of this? what if the west coast states wanted to leave the union.[Calf,Oregon,Wash] the rest of US would say GO!! but!! certain politicanins would bring-up fact about losing key ports/bases on west coast.but real reason would be the lose of house members in the congress!! now you see ??
Puffnstuff79 Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Sep 25 2014, 7:41 AM EST
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Being a Sutherland myself and having ancestors on the Mayflower that signed the Mayflower Compact I believe the ties between the two are too old and the young didn't get their history lessons right. When I first heard of this the Scotty in me said ditch the old cow but the English fella in me said settle down you rebel you.
delta1 Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Sep 25 2014, 8:42 PM EST
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Anything happening with Texas's desire to secede?
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