America's #1 Online Cigar Auction
first, best, biggest!

Last post 9 years ago by TMCTLT. 54 replies replies.
2 Pages12>
Sending Troops to Fight Ebola
Jump to Bottom | Previous Topic | Next Topic
8trackdisco Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 5:25 AM EST
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 60,090
The president does know Ebola is a disease, right?

How much sense does make to send troops to inevitably get sick, die or bring the disease back to the states?

How does a soldier or marine 'fight' Ebola?
kombat96 Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 6:23 AM EST
Joined: 04-12-2010
Posts: 9,717
So our troops can get infected with the disease and die, also pass it around to other ppl..ie civilians

Ebola will be the aids epidemic all over again.
kombat96 Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 6:24 AM EST
Joined: 04-12-2010
Posts: 9,717
Does Obamacare cover Ebola?
Oscar Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 7:19 AM EST
Joined: 09-12-2012
Posts: 3,169
kombat96 wrote:
Does Obamacare cover Ebola?


Depends on how you vote...
Buckwheat Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 7:33 AM EST
Joined: 04-15-2004
Posts: 12,251
I guess they could just kill anyone who has contracted Ebola. That could stop the spread.
Gene363 Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 7:46 AM EST
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,838
Buckwheat wrote:
I guess they could just kill anyone who has contracted Ebola. That could stop the spread.



Killing and breaking things is the task the military is well trained and equipped to perform.

Too bad Obumer and his minions don't understand that fact.
bs_kwaj Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 8:27 AM EST
Joined: 02-13-2006
Posts: 5,214
Massive fire power.

Shock and awe.

Fixes everything.

Anxious
teedubbya Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 8:57 AM EST
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
I wish we stuck to killing and blowing things up. Never understood the whole nation building hearts and minds thing. It used to be a liberal concept, now both parties embrace it equally with s little ebb and flow based on who is in power.

I heard they placed Morgan freeman in command.
DrafterX Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 9:17 AM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,560
Buckwheat wrote:
I guess they could just kill anyone who has contracted Ebola. That could stop the spread.



from what I heard no... the dead can still spread ebola cause the families of the victims insist on bathing the body before burial... so they catch it too... or somthin like that... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 9:18 AM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,560
teedubbya wrote:


I heard they placed Morgan freeman in command.



I heard he's Tired of All this G'Damn Ebola in this G'Damn Jungle..!! Mad
TrishS@CigarBid Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 9:21 AM EST
Joined: 06-13-2001
Posts: 3,172
teedubbya wrote:
I heard they placed Morgan freeman in command.


Might be better at it than the current president. At least he'd sound more presidential. He'd have better script writers
Gene363 Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 9:25 AM EST
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,838
TrishS@CigarBid wrote:
Might be better at it than the current president. At least he'd sound more presidential. He'd have better script writers


+1 ThumpUp
DrafterX Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 9:30 AM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,560
Breaking News..!!

U.S. airports will begin taking the temperatures of passengers arriving on flights originating from West African countries where Ebola is concentrated, according to an official with direct knowledge of the screenings.

The screenings will begin this weekend or next week, the source said.


Film at 11..... Think Think
ZRX1200 Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 9:34 AM EST
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,628
And who owns the patent on the vaccine???

Bill Gates. Why would we help a panicked crisis ? $ ?
dstieger Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 10:21 AM EST
Joined: 06-22-2007
Posts: 10,889
teedubbya wrote:
I wish we stuck to killing and blowing things up. Never understood the whole nation building hearts and minds thing. It used to be a liberal concept, now both parties embrace it equally with s little ebb and flow based on who is in power.



And how do you propose feeding the Military Industrial complex when we are sitting around figuring out who should be killed next?
DrafterX Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 10:40 AM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,560
well, I guess the threat in Dallas is gone....

Dallas Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan died this morning at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, the hospital says.

Duncan arrived in the United States on September 20. He contracted Ebola in Liberia.

Film at 11.... Think
HockeyDad Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 11:04 AM EST
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,163
DrafterX wrote:
Breaking News..!!

U.S. airports will begin taking the temperatures of passengers arriving on flights originating from West African countries where Ebola is concentrated, according to an official with direct knowledge of the screenings.

The screenings will begin this weekend or next week, the source said.


Film at 11..... Think Think



Great. Now that we've told Ebola our plans, what is to stop Ebola from just sneaking in on a South American flight or walking across our unguarded border with Mexico?

Build a wall!
DrafterX Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 11:06 AM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,560
That's what I was thinking too.... Mellow
Buckwheat Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 11:15 AM EST
Joined: 04-15-2004
Posts: 12,251
DrafterX wrote:
from what I heard no... the dead can still spread ebola cause the families of the victims insist on bathing the body before burial... so they catch it too... or somthin like that... Mellow


Well then they would have to be killed as well. Pretty simple plan. horse
DrafterX Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 11:18 AM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,560
Buckwheat wrote:
Well then they would have to be killed as well. Pretty simple plan. horse



or just designate one family member to give the bath... prolly the least employable or productive member would be good... Mellow
dstieger Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 11:20 AM EST
Joined: 06-22-2007
Posts: 10,889
DrafterX wrote:
Breaking News..!!

U.S. airports will begin taking the temperatures of passengers arriving on flights originating from West African countries where Ebola is concentrated, according to an official with direct knowledge of the screenings.

The screenings will begin this weekend or next week, the source said.


Film at 11..... Think Think



And??? What happens if the passenger has a fever? I suggest charter flights to Raqqa
ZRX1200 Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 11:24 AM EST
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,628
dstieger here's your Military Industrial Complex daily update:

http://www.mintpressnews.com/watch-panetta-war-on-isis-will-be-a-30-year-war/197334/
victor809 Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 11:41 AM EST
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
dstieger wrote:
And??? What happens if the passenger has a fever? I suggest charter flights to Raqqa


If a passenger has a fever you shoot down the entire plane. right?
jetblasted Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 11:46 AM EST
Joined: 08-30-2004
Posts: 42,595
In his address to Congress right after 9/11, Bush Jr. said it would be a 30 year war ...
victor809 Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 11:47 AM EST
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
8trackdisco wrote:
The president does know Ebola is a disease, right?

How much sense does make to send troops to inevitably get sick, die or bring the disease back to the states?

How does a soldier or marine 'fight' Ebola?


It's not "fighting ebola" as much as crowd control and stability.

Quarantines need to be maintained to keep the disease from spreading out of quarantined areas. That can't be done if the local gov't has been crippled by panic or doesn't have the manpower to do it.

I'm assuming that along with the soldiers, a mobile hospital of some sort is being set up as well. Probably need soldiers to maintain the security of the facility and the security of the supply chain.
sd72 Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 11:48 AM EST
Joined: 03-09-2011
Posts: 9,600
Pretty amazing that not even a plague can stop anyone from flying into America.
victor809 Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 11:48 AM EST
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
Obama's direct quote:

Quote:

So today, I’m announcing a major increase in our response. At the request of the Liberian government, we’re going to establish a military command center in Liberia to support civilian efforts across the region -- similar to our response after the Haiti earthquake. It’s going to be commanded by Major General Darryl Williams, commander of our Army forces in Africa. He just arrived today and is now on the ground in Liberia. And our forces are going to bring their expertise in command and control, in logistics, in engineering. And our Department of Defense is better at that, our Armed Services are better at that than any organization on Earth.

We’re going to create an air bridge to get health workers and medical supplies into West Africa faster. We’re going to establish a staging area in Senegal to help distribute personnel and aid on the ground more quickly. We are going to create a new training site to train thousands of health workers so they can effectively and safely care for more patients. Personnel from the U.S. Public Health Service will deploy to the new field hospitals that we’re setting up in Liberia. And USAID will join with international partners and local communities in a Community Care Campaign to distribute supplies and information kits to hundreds of thousands of families so they can better protect themselves.

We’re also going to build additional treatment units, including new isolation spaces and more than 1,000 beds. And in all our efforts, the safety of our personnel will remain a top priority. Meanwhile, our scientists continue their urgent research in the hope of finding new treatments and perhaps vaccines. And today I’m calling on Congress to approve the funding that we’ve requested so that we can carry on with all these critical efforts.

so... logistics, controlling the situation, establishing and providing safety for non-military infrastructure and the supply chain.
sd72 Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 11:50 AM EST
Joined: 03-09-2011
Posts: 9,600
Can't we just get a loan from China ??
dstieger Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 11:54 AM EST
Joined: 06-22-2007
Posts: 10,889
dstieger wrote:
And??? What happens if the passenger has a fever? I suggest charter flights to Raqqa



I'm thinking more about this....I don't think we should stop with flights from US to Raqqa with potential patients ---- maybe we should also be flying them non-stop from Monrovia to Raqqa, as well. 2 birds and all that
TrishS@CigarBid Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 12:26 PM EST
Joined: 06-13-2001
Posts: 3,172
ZRX1200 wrote:
And who owns the patent on the vaccine???

Bill Gates. Why would we help a panicked crisis ? $ ?


Last week he was interviewed and said he was giving $50 million to help with the ebola outbreak. He said it was to get them medicine, supplies, etc. Not sure who was getting the money, but I don't think it was anyone in the US.

I thought it was pretty cool. He said that his hope was to have it under control within a short period of time. I don't remember off the top of my head what that time period was but I do remember thinking it was pretty aggressive.
gryphonms Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 12:28 PM EST
Joined: 04-14-2013
Posts: 1,983
Taking peoples temperatures is s knee jerk reaction. What will be done to people with temperatures? 99.9% of them have temperatures from other viruses or bacteria. Do we quarantine everyone on a plane that had someone with a temperature? What about the 21 day incubation period? All we really know about someone with a temperature is they have a temperature. Though is would be Draconian a reslisticreslistic solution is to ban flights to West Africa and from West Africa.
ZRX1200 Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 12:51 PM EST
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,628
Trish ya gotta have money to make money.

Look at all the friends he's made in India with his vaccinations.......
teedubbya Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 1:33 PM EST
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
TrishS@CigarBid wrote:
Last week he was interviewed and said he was giving $50 million to help with the ebola outbreak. He said it was to get them medicine, supplies, etc. Not sure who was getting the money, but I don't think it was anyone in the US.

I thought it was pretty cool. He said that his hope was to have it under control within a short period of time. I don't remember off the top of my head what that time period was but I do remember thinking it was pretty aggressive.



Gates signed the giving pledge. Most of his money will be given away by the time of his death (or shortly following)

"• He's given $28bn to charity and is still worth $56bn.

• His three children will inherit only "a minuscule portion of my wealth" - said it to be $10m each. "It will mean they have to find their own way." (Find their own way... to the bank, as a colleague has just wryly added.)

• When asked if his kids have iPads, iPhones and iPods, Gates replied that they have the Microsoft equivalent. "They are not deprived children."
"
Gene363 Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 2:24 PM EST
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,838
teedubbya wrote:
Gates signed the giving pledge. Most of his money will be given away by the time of his death (or shortly following)

"• He's given $28bn to charity and is still worth $56bn.

• His three children will inherit only "a minuscule portion of my wealth" - said it to be $10m each. "It will mean they have to find their own way." (Find their own way... to the bank, as a colleague has just wryly added.)

• When asked if his kids have iPads, iPhones and iPods, Gates replied that they have the Microsoft equivalent. "They are not deprived children."
"


No matter what you think of Microsoft, The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is donating tons of money and trying to have it solve the root some of the world's problems not just the symptoms.
8trackdisco Offline
#35 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 6:34 PM EST
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 60,090
gryphonms wrote:
Though is would be Draconian a reslisticreslistic solution is to ban flights to West Africa and from West Africa.


You can't suggest that, gryph. That makes you an outright racist.
8trackdisco Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 6:37 PM EST
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 60,090
Gene363 wrote:

No matter what you think of Microsoft, The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is donating tons of money and trying to have it solve the root some of the world's problems not syphillis.



Anxious
Mr. Jones Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014, 9:25 PM EST
Joined: 06-12-2005
Posts: 19,443
I think Melinda Gates is chumming for strange
"Cuban Originals Cuban Knights" Club members at her health club in Seattle....I wonder if Jaderose
Is sporting " Bill's thirty year love history" in his unit?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Oct 9 2014, 7:50 AM EST
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,507
TrishS@CigarBid wrote:
Might be better at it than the current president. At least he'd sound more presidential. He'd have better script writers



And produce a REAL...valid birth certificate...of a US citizen!
8trackdisco Offline
#39 Posted: Thu, Oct 9 2014, 8:47 PM EST
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 60,090
HockeyDad wrote:
Great. Now that we've told Ebola our plans, what is to stop Ebola from just sneaking in on a South American flight or walking across our unguarded border with Mexico?

Build a wall!


No wall. This is a job for a 20 mile deep, west african minefield.
jetblasted Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, Oct 9 2014, 9:25 PM EST
Joined: 08-30-2004
Posts: 42,595
Ebola was created by the Buildaburgs
ZRX1200 Offline
#41 Posted: Sat, Oct 11 2014, 11:07 PM EST
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,628
MSNBC Blames Ebola Outbreak On Second Amendment
OCTOBER 6, 2014
MSNBC Blames Ebola Outbreak on Second Amendment
Breitbart reports:

MSNBC is blaming the National Rifle Association (NRA) for Ebola’s arrival in the U.S., as well as for the fear of a greater outbreak that has followed.

According to MSNBC, the NRA made “the Ebola crisis worse” by opposing Dr. Vivek Murthy’s nomination to the position of Surgeon General in 2013.

Had things been different–had Murthy been confirmed to the position of surgeon general–he could speak to the American people and relieve the “heightened public health anxiety.” But the NRA ruined that when they opposed his plans to label gun crime a “public health crisis” and then use that avenue for backdoor gun control.

Now we have no Surgeon General and no comfort.


Missing from MSNBC’s claims is that the fact that Murthy had far more opponents than the NRA, and many of those opponents were fellow doctors.

For example, Fox News’ Dr. Manny Alveraz opposed Murthy’s confirmation as Surgeon General by pointing out that Murthy was not even qualified to run a “medical department” at an “academic medical center.” Alveraz also pointed out that all Murthy’s achievements at that time had been political, not medical, in nature.

On March 19, Breitbart News reported that one of the main reasons Murthy was nominated was because of his work in helping to get Obama elected in 2008 via “Doctors for Obama.”

But MSNBC overlooks these things to talk about how the angry white men at NRA headquarters have somehow made the Ebola crisis worse than it had to be.
TMCTLT Offline
#42 Posted: Sun, Oct 12 2014, 9:27 AM EST
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
I would expect NO less from that **** or Sharpton or The commander in theif.....

As far as sending our troops into harms way, I don't agree with it!! That being sais it QUITE something else to continue to allow flights from those infected ares into the U.S. and put innocent people in harms way. It IS just incredibly wrong headed as Hell. These folks have already proven they WILL lie about contact with the sick And break quarantine thus showing their total disregard for others.
gryphonms Offline
#43 Posted: Sun, Oct 12 2014, 9:40 AM EST
Joined: 04-14-2013
Posts: 1,983
^+1
Gene363 Offline
#44 Posted: Sun, Oct 12 2014, 11:25 AM EST
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,838

Uh Oh!!! First US case of Ebola infection

DALLAS —

A Texas health care worker has tested positive for Ebola even though she wore full protective gear while caring for a hospitalized patient who later died from the virus, health officials said Sunday. If the preliminary diagnosis is confirmed, it would be the first known case of the disease being contracted or transmitted in the U.S.

Dr. Tom Frieden, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said the diagnosis shows there was a clear breach of safety protocol and all those who treated Thomas Eric Duncan are now considered to be potentially exposed.

The worker wore a gown, gloves, mask and shield while she cared for Duncan during his second visit to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, said Dr. Daniel Varga of Texas Health Resources, which runs the hospital. Frieden said the worker has not been able to identify a specific breach of protocol that might have led to her being infected.
TMCTLT Offline
#45 Posted: Sun, Oct 12 2014, 11:31 AM EST
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
Gene363 wrote:

Uh Oh!!! First US case of Ebola infection

DALLAS —

A Texas health care worker has tested positive for Ebola even though she wore full protective gear while caring for a hospitalized patient who later died from the virus, health officials said Sunday. If the preliminary diagnosis is confirmed, it would be the first known case of the disease being contracted or transmitted in the U.S.

Dr. Tom Frieden, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said the diagnosis shows there was a clear breach of safety protocol and all those who treated Thomas Eric Duncan are now considered to be potentially exposed.

The worker wore a gown, gloves, mask and shield while she cared for Duncan during his second visit to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, said Dr. Daniel Varga of Texas Health Resources, which runs the hospital. Frieden said the worker has not been able to identify a specific breach of protocol that might have led to her being infected.



And yet Obama will continue to allow more to come here while making up excuses as to why this poor nurse contracted it!!! And his CDC will continue to do damage control by LYING to the Public
Gene363 Offline
#46 Posted: Sun, Oct 12 2014, 1:50 PM EST
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,838
TMCTLT wrote:
And yet Obama will continue to allow more to come here while making up excuses as to why this poor nurse contracted it!!! And his CDC will continue to do damage control by LYING to the Public


Yup, there is a chance she became infected while removing the protective clothing. I know that is a time to be rather careful from dressing out in radioactive contamination areas. That said, it may be more 'catchy' (getting all technical) than the CDC is saying.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#47 Posted: Sun, Oct 12 2014, 1:55 PM EST
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,507
WORKPLACE INCIDENT!!!!!
victor809 Offline
#48 Posted: Sun, Oct 12 2014, 3:06 PM EST
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
The MSNBC article is interesting.

The surgeon general choice was bad. It's stupid to consider guns a "health crisis" any more than serial killers are a "health crisis". That being said this is an interesting illustration of what happens when our dumb ass politicians spend all their time blocking each other from doing anything or appointing anyone. We end up with a gutted government with no one at the head.

While I don't think that SG would have been particularly good, we now have no SG... And let's take a moment to consider all the other appointments which were blocked... Will one of them turn out to be necessary in the next catastrophe?
TMCTLT Offline
#49 Posted: Sun, Oct 12 2014, 5:15 PM EST
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
victor809 wrote:
The MSNBC article is interesting.

The surgeon general choice was bad. It's stupid to consider guns a "health crisis" any more than serial killers are a "health crisis". That being said this is an interesting illustration of what happens when our dumb ass politicians spend all their time blocking each other from doing anything or appointing anyone. We end up with a gutted government with no one at the head.

While I don't think that SG would have been particularly good, we now have no SG... And let's take a moment to consider all the other appointments which were blocked... Will one of them turn out to be necessary in the next catastrophe?



I would much rather consider all the F'd up appointments that DID go through.....from his Ultra Liberal SCOTUS appointments to his boy Van Jones etc.and all the dip****s in his cabinet that have had to " excuse " themselves for one reason or another from their appointed duties. Voter remorse IS a bitch isn't it??? And let's not forget that although this first initial case couldn't have been avoided ( well cause he lied about having contact with anyone who was sick, that does NOT mean we should cease flight coming into the U.S.
gryphonms Offline
#50 Posted: Sun, Oct 12 2014, 7:02 PM EST
Joined: 04-14-2013
Posts: 1,983
Double talk, Frieden said there was a clear breach of protocol, then he said the worker has not been able to identify a specific breach of protocol. WTF!
Users browsing this topic
Guest
2 Pages12>
Back to Top