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ISIS declares Christians No. 1 enemy
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jackconrad Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Oct 14 2014, 4:39 PM EST
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Iraq’s Christians have been forced to flee or face certain death in the path of ISIS terrorists.

In an updated version of its propaganda booklet, “Dabiq,” ISIS clearly identifies its No. 1 enemy – Christianity.







The cover photo shows a black ISIS flag flying over the Vatican. The booklet describes the terrorist army’s desires to conquer Rome and “break the cross,” according to Arutz Sheva, an independent Israeli news network.

According to some Islamic traditions, the Islamic prophet Muhammad predicted that the occupation of Istanbul, Jerusalem and Rome would pave the way for the Islamic messiah or mahdi.

The declaration surfaces amid growing concern over the widespread persecution of Christians in the Middle East. ISIS has executed hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Christians throughout Iraq and forced many to flee the country. Up to 100,000 Christians remain in the capital of Baghdad, as ISIS is now within eight miles of the city.

A joint conference between the International Christian Embassy in Jerusalem and the World Jewish Congress in Jerusalem was held earlier this week to discuss the dire situation for Christians.

“Across the Middle East, in the last 10 years, 100,000 Christians have been murdered each year. That means every five minutes a Christian is killed because of his faith,” Father Gabriel Nadaf, who has campaigned for Christian Arab rights and for local Christians to support Israel, told the United Nations Human Rights Council in September. “Those who can escape persecution at the hands of Muslim extremists have fled. … Those who remain, exist as second if not third class citizens to their Muslim rulers.”

An estimated 12 million Christians lived in the Middle East, according to a July estimate in the London Guardian. But that number has been thought to have decreased drastically since the ISIS summer takeover of nearly half of Iraq, including the city of Mosul, which had been home to Christians for 2,000 years.

As Islam jihadists have gained ground throughout the Middle East over the past three years, the Christian community has faced persecution in a number countries, including Egypt, Iraq, Libya and Syria.

In Egypt, Coptic Christians have been targeted by violence from the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafi groups. There have been reports of church burnings and killings of Christians.

In Syria, al-Qaida-linked rebels have threatened to kill Christians who do not join the fight against President Bashar Al-Assad.

Iran has persecuted Christians relentlessly as well, recently making headlines for burning the lips of a Christian man caught eating during the Ramadan fast.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/isis-document-ids-christians-as-enemy-no-1/#zPwszEdSb55EcBJS.99
Buckwheat Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Oct 14 2014, 5:01 PM EST
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At least it's no longer America. That's a plus.
Burner02 Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 5:16 AM EST
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Time to do a little carpet bombing. Unleash the B-52's.
TMCTLT Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 5:30 AM EST
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Burner02 wrote:
Time to do a little carpet bombing. Unleash the B-52's.



Yessir, create a glass runway for them to land when they're finished!! Christianity is being attacked here @ home as well, they're just using the Constitution to do it instead of bullets / tanks. d'oh!
itsawaldo Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 5:38 AM EST
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War for material and resorces is already bad enough.
War over religion I just don't understand.
If I am contributing to the community, not a slacker nor criminal-why would anyone care how I find peace, guidence and solace?
It's my personal problem if I go to "your hell", not yours and in my religion I am not, so....why do you care?
Buckwheat Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 7:37 AM EST
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itsawaldo wrote:
War for material and resorces is already bad enough.
War over religion I just don't understand.
If I am contributing to the community, not a slacker nor criminal-why would anyone care how I find peace, guidence and solace?
It's my personal problem if I go to "your hell", not yours and in my religion I am not, so....why do you care?


Because it is not really about religion; it's about power and money. They use religion to fire up their base and get them to do anything that they want. Remember that people will generally do just about anything "in the name of religion" or if they feel that their religion is being attacked.

Christianity isn't being attacked here. Oh poor christians!! They have such a hard time in the US with all of the religious killings and persecution that has happened in the US lately. Sarcasm
TMCTLT Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 7:51 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Because it is not really about religion; it's about power and money. They use religion to fire up their base and get them to do anything that they want. Remember that people will generally do just about anything "in the name of religion" or if they feel that their religion is being attacked.

Christianity isn't being attacked here. Oh poor christians!! They have such a hard time in the US with all of the religious killings and persecution that has happened in the US lately. Sarcasm



No...not yet. However they ARE under attack on all other fronts while under this Administration that you seem to adore the radical religion of Islam is given a pass....in our Military / on college campuses etc. take off the blinders bros.
Religious Freedom means just that, tolerance for ALL, not just those your scared ****less of....
itsawaldo Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 8:35 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Because it is not really about religion; it's about power and money. They use religion to fire up their base and get them to do anything that they want. Remember that people will generally do just about anything "in the name of religion" or if they feel that their religion is being attacked.

Christianity isn't being attacked here. Oh poor christians!! They have such a hard time in the US with all of the religious killings and persecution that has happened in the US lately. Sarcasm



Yes it's always power and money, wish they would just make war and leave religion out of it.
But an evil religious group, ethnic minority certainly helps motivate the troops!
Buckwheat Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 8:46 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
No...not yet. However they ARE under attack on all other fronts while under this Administration that you seem to adore the radical religion of Islam is given a pass....in our Military / on college campuses etc. take off the blinders bros.
Religious Freedom means just that, tolerance for ALL, not just those your scared ****less of....


Or NO religion. There are a lot of people who believe that tolerance of anyone who doesn't want any religion in the public or governmental space is an attack on Christianity.

I've never said that I even like Obama's administration let alone that I "adore" it. You assume too much. I do like pointing out that there are other ways to view the same events besides what either the far right or far left say is the only truth.
DrafterX Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 8:57 AM EST
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they're prolly pissed about the tithe thing.... Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 9:11 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Or NO religion. There are a lot of people who believe that tolerance of anyone who doesn't want any religion in the public or governmental space is an attack on Christianity.

I've never said that I even like Obama's administration let alone that I "adore" it. You assume too much. I do like pointing out that there are other ways to view the same events besides what either the far right or far left say is the only truth.



On board with that thought of NO particular religion, however I do believe in a Creator which we call GOD. What that means to many is certainly " up for interpretation " Politics is a scum laden business and Religion should never be used to further or inhibit ones political leanings....Period. That being said I do Not see any other religion today showing a total Intolerance of ALL others except Islam.
gryphonms Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 9:21 AM EST
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I do not care what happens to anyone in the middle east. They choose to live there. They can deal with their own problems. Is ISIS here killing many Americans? Is the expectation they will end up here killing Americans? If yes to either of the last 2 questions then use tactical nukes, problem solved. If no then we do not need to be involved. Might sound cruel and indifferent, but that's life.
TMCTLT Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 9:23 AM EST
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gryphonms wrote:
I do not care what happens to anyone in the middle east. They choose to live there. They can deal with their own problems. Is ISIS here killing many Americans? Is the expectation they will end up here killing Americans? If yes to either of the last 2 questions then use tactical nukes, problem solved. If no then we do not need to be involved. Might sound cruel and indifferent, but that's life.



+1
jpotts Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 10:15 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Because it is not really about religion; it's about power and money. They use religion to fire up their base and get them to do anything that they want. Remember that people will generally do just about anything "in the name of religion" or if they feel that their religion is being attacked.

Christianity isn't being attacked here. Oh poor christians!! They have such a hard time in the US with all of the religious killings and persecution that has happened in the US lately. Sarcasm


Just ask the Jews that lived through Nazi persecution. It starts with words. It ends with ovens. I have no idea what they taught in your world history class, but most of us learned about what led up to the Holocaust.

Oh, and Christians didn't fare so well in the Soviet Union either. It took a Nazi invasion for Stalin to stop the death squads. That's only because he needed people to throw at Nazi bullets.

And what do you think caused the Crusades in the first place, hummm? It wasn't Richard the Lionhearted wanting a winter vacation villa in some place southern and warm. It was Christians being murdered by Muslims all across the Middle East, and Muslim incursions into Europe. Why do you think Spain had the Moors?

And now we have idiotic atheists in this country wanting to continue where Stalin left off. I don't know about you, but I think I'd like to avoid the mistakes of the past.

Do us all a favor: go back and get your GED, or something. Ignorance may be bliss for you, but it's hard on the rest of the population.
DrafterX Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 10:17 AM EST
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I thought the Crusades were all about looking for the Grail.... Think
jpotts Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 10:18 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I thought the Crusades were all about looking for the Grail.... Think


No, that was a beer competition.

And Sam Adams Brewery won.
jpotts Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 10:23 AM EST
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Also, I'd like to point out that religious fanatics are NO WHERE NEAR as murderous as atheists. From the Nazis to the Kamir Rouge, anti-religion types are among the biggest mass-murderers in existence.

So no - it's not about "organized religion." It's about people with no morals and their BS ideology. Christianity is just an easy target as it is pacifist by its very doctrine.
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