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gryphonms Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 9:10 AM EST
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Our government is failing us. Clearly we are not prepared to deal with Ebola. Just ask the 2 infected healthcare workers in Texas. The media says that we cannot close our borders since people would reroute and then come here. BS, passports show your country of origin and where you have been so closing our borders would be easy. The only thing stopping this is our government.
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#2 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 9:14 AM EST
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I agree.
My wife is a RN at a big hospital here in Dallas, not the one with the sick Nurses but they do have three patients in Isolation that have recently started showing symptoms.The CDC is there now.The media has not yet mentioned this.

I scares me to death thinking of my wife being there,

wheel,
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#3 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 9:15 AM EST
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they check passports on the Rio Grande..?? Huh
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#4 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 9:17 AM EST
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gryphonms wrote:
Our government is failing us. Clearly we are not prepared to deal with Ebola. Just ask the 2 infected healthcare workers in Texas. The media says that we cannot close our borders since people would reroute and then come here. BS, passports show your country of origin and where you have been so closing our borders would be easy. The only thing stopping this is our government.




Alan, the mistake we ALL make is believing that our Gov. Gives two shots about us. They believe themselves to be SO Valuable that in the event of a nuclear attack they have afforded themselves underground accommodations so that Government should / would carry on!!! Now I ask anyone,
IS THIS who WE really want starting our country anew??
They're a bunch of self worshiping F*cktards....
gryphonms Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 9:27 AM EST
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Don't be dense drafter. We could close our border to a large number of people by checking passports. Do you really think most of them would go to Mexico and try to enter here illegally? If so then I question your critical thought process. Though I would agree that our border patrol policy is a joke that needs to be fixed.
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 9:35 AM EST
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well, that's what I heard.... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 9:35 AM EST
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Let's start with the guy in the White House.
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#8 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 10:06 AM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
I agree.
My wife is a RN at a big hospital here in Dallas, not the one with the sick Nurses but they do have three patients in Isolation that have recently started showing symptoms.The CDC is there now.The media has not yet mentioned this.

I scares me to death thinking of my wife being there,

wheel,




Bill, I can certainly understand your fears brother and pray that she will be kept from harms way my man.
There is NO reason why Americans should be Intentionally put in harms way like this.
My wife also works @ a lrg hospital here in Indy, and although not an RN it still scares me as well. My understanding is IIA does not have direct flights from Africa, O Hare does and we're but 2 1/2 hrs away...
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#9 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 10:09 AM EST
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They need to quarantine the effected countries.
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#10 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 10:11 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Bill, I can certainly understand your fears brother and pray that she will be kept from harms way my man.
There is NO reason why Americans should be Intentionally put in harms way like this.
My wife also works @ a lrg hospital here in Indy, and although not an RN it still scares me as well. My understanding is IIA does not have direct flights from Africa, O Hare does and we're but 2 1/2 hrs away...



You and your wife will be included in my thoughts and Prayers


wheel,,
jetblasted Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 10:30 AM EST
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Common sense has left the building.
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#12 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 10:33 AM EST
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I heard as long as you don't give an Ebola victim a bath and wash your hands after you use the bathroom you don't have anything to fear... Mellow
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#13 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 11:05 AM EST
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I could care les about the CDC but if they contain this to 2-10 people and the only death is the dude in Dallas you must admit they (and the local hospital) did a nice job. If it becomes a wide scale outbreak not so much. Time will tell. So far its a miniscule problem here unless you are one of the handful with it. One health care worker getting sick is too many. This is an area I work on every day (hospital aquired infections).

Every day in a hospital is a risk for things as deadly or deadlier than ebola. I'm suprised yall are not screaming that the lame stream media should be reporting every single sickness and death caused by all contagons rather than fixating on ebola. That's the logic applied to other subjects. Ebola is just sexy right now. Remember making fun of the CDC regarding pandemic preperations, bird flu etc..... they can't win.
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#14 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 11:15 AM EST
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Bird Flu was a hoax created by the Obama administration to scare everyone into buying Obamacare... Not talking
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#15 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 11:21 AM EST
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Everybody always forgets the swine flu.

Then again we are talking about scientists.
gryphonms Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 11:35 AM EST
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TW you miss the point. About 50 healthcare workers came into contact with the deceased Mr. Duncan. 2 now have Ebola. If you don't see the statistical significance of that you need to look again. That is 4%. Yes it is only 2 people, but the 4% percent is horrendous. Either Ebola is much more virulent that we have been lead to believe or the existing safety protocols are inadequate.
victor809 Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 11:40 AM EST
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There are a lot of arguments against restricting air travel.

The most simple are that... it doesn't matter. Where do you restrict air travel from? Just a few countries in africa? What's to keep people from travelling by land to the other countries and flying out? Are you going to investigate every individual's passport for stamps indicating they've been in/out of specific countries? That's going to slow international air travel to a halt.

Even if you cut all travel to all of africa... you aren't going to get them all. And it's the most desperate (likely the highest risk) that you won't find as they fly in.

Meanwhile, the travel restrictions will have a serious negative impact on aid to these countries, causing the outbreak to spread even more. The more people who are sick in those countries, the higher the chance of one illegally coming across to the US and staying hidden, because they're afraid. You'll get mysterious outbreaks in the US popping up in completely unpredictable patterns, because you won't know where the person is.

Lets not even get into the impact on the global economy that this sort of outbreak will have if it spreads throughout africa.
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#18 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 11:43 AM EST
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gryphonms wrote:
TW you miss the point. About 50 healthcare workers came into contact with the deceased Mr. Duncan. 2 now have Ebola. If you don't see the statistical significance of that you need to look again. That is 4%. Yes it is only 2 people, but the 4% percent is horrendous. Either Ebola is much more virulent that we have been lead to believe or the existing safety protocols are inadequate.


Both may be true.
The health workers infected is a bad thing... it means that 1 person infected is at least doubling the number of infected at this time.

doesn't mean stopping flights to africa will solve the problem tho.
jetblasted Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 12:15 PM EST
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Re: 17

I compltely disagree.
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#20 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 12:20 PM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
Re: 17

I compltely disagree.


I don't blame you for disagreeing.
There's arguments for both restricting air travel, and arguments for not restricting air travel.

Currently most countries in the world are choosing the 2nd. They may eventually choose to restrict it... but either way it isn't really a "it's too late" situation. The people of our planet are too mobile. The "too late" situation occurred a century ago when we guaranteed that between rail, sea, automobile and air travel any virus has a healthy chance of making it around the planet.
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#21 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 12:36 PM EST
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Let me reiterate my point since I did not say it directly in number 1. I want to ban entrance to America for anyone that has been in West Africa until the Ebola epidemic is over. This can be done by checking passports, which can be done for all legal forms of entrance to America. Is it paranoid? Maybe yes, maybe no, I do not think there is enough statistical evidence to definitively answer that question.
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#22 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 12:51 PM EST
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gryphonms wrote:
Let me reiterate my point since I did not say it directly in number 1. I want to ban entrance to America for anyone that has been in West Africa until the Ebola epidemic is over. This can be done by checking passports, which can be done for all legal forms of entrance to America. Is it paranoid? Maybe yes, maybe no, I do not think there is enough statistical evidence to definitively answer that question.



I guess my point is that will cripple travel.

At this time when you enter or exit the US, the officers don't go through your entire passport to check whether there is a stamp from african countries, and then check the dates. This sort of scrutiny would slow entrances to the US (by citizens and non citizens) to a halt.

Imagine the impact this will have on ground transportation if we do it at our southern border... I mean, if I was hanging out in africa and the US stopped all flights... well, the smart way in would be a flight to Mexico or Canada... then just drive across.
TMCTLT Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 12:54 PM EST
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gryphonms wrote:
Let me reiterate my point since I did not say it directly in number 1. I want to ban entrance to America for anyone that has been in West Africa until the Ebola epidemic is over. This can be done by checking passports, which can be done for all legal forms of entrance to America. Is it paranoid? Maybe yes, maybe no, I do not think there is enough statistical evidence to definitively answer that question.



Very well said Alan Applause

TMCTLT Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 12:57 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I guess my point is that will cripple travel.

At this time when you enter or exit the US, the officers don't go through your entire passport to check whether there is a stamp from african countries, and then check the dates. This sort of scrutiny would slow entrances to the US (by citizens and non citizens) to a halt.

Imagine the impact this will have on ground transportation if we do it at our southern border... I mean, if I was hanging out in africa and the US stopped all flights... well, the smart way in would be a flight to Mexico or Canada... then just drive across.



And once again you can hold this POTUS accountable for BOTH issues. Another non starter Victor. Who gives two **** about travel being crippled....not me and not most with half a brain.
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#25 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 1:00 PM EST
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well, you can stop the ebola dude from getting on da plane but what about the people he was inline at the ticket counter with..?? I don't see an easy solution here.. I'm all for trying tho... Mellow
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#26 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 1:04 PM EST
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Drafter, there is no simple solution. Though one thing is clear, stopping the epidemic in Africa is where containing this starts, but even that is an over simplification.
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#27 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 1:09 PM EST
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Some scientist just said / announced that he thinks Ebloa can be contracted by inhaling an infected persons sneezing airborne droplets which are thousands in the air w/ each sneeze...
Simply put...
I CALL THAT AN AIRBORNE VIRUS...but gravity and closed forced air recirculating air systems ...i.e. airplanes... play a roll in the time that it is airborne.

Then they said it has the potential to mutate to a truly airborne status...what ever that means....i guess it grows wings or is lighter than air :) :)

Then they said that months ago...when they studied the original 70 confirmed cases that they found 400 different mutations on the original strain....
That is very disconserting information...the stuff mutates like rabbits "IN THE GROTTO"...
YIKES !!!!!
DrafterX Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 1:12 PM EST
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well, they should stop serving grotto then... Mellow
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#29 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 1:18 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
And once again you can hold this POTUS accountable for BOTH issues. Another non starter Victor. Who gives two **** about travel being crippled....not me and not most with half a brain.


Your statement makes no sense.

And if you aren't concerned about the financial implications of crippling travel across our borders you don't understand the US's current economic state.
gryphonms Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 1:32 PM EST
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I think what the infectious disease experts are saying is that if large droplets from a cough or sneeze come in direct contact with an open wound or mucus membrane someone could catch ebola. Whereas when influenza for example is asperated you can catch it. In a way this seems like splitting hairs but it really is not. To catch ebola someone would have to sneeze liquid on you. To catch influenza you would have to walk in a room where someone sneezed.
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#31 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 1:38 PM EST
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http://www.skyalgae.info/Home/how-do-virusese-mutate-and-become-airborne

A quick primer on what airborne viruses actually means. (as opposed to someone sneezing a wad of snot into your mouth)
gryphonms Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 2:10 PM EST
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Thank you Victor. Number 30 aerosoled is a much better choice of words than as aspirated.
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#33 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 3:22 PM EST
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You can't get to Mexico or Canada from West Africa non-stop. You'd have to connect through a major hub. A travel ban would restrict flights to/from those cities affected. The only impact would be he airlines bottom line & the economy of cities in West Africa. Being that the major carriers only offer 1-2 flights a day to/from, the financial impact would be minimal. I really could care less about the economy of a dirt poor 3rd world country that could start s global pandemic. As far as I can tell, only Nigeria offers any major financial impact on the world, and that is with their oil. But, you have that whole Boko Harem thing going on over there, and that seems to be self-contained. In the long run I say, **** them, not us. It's quite simple, really.
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there's always the banana boats.... Mellow
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#35 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 3:29 PM EST
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The 2nd Dallas "health care worker" who has been diagnosed just 2 days ago was on a flight from CLE to DFW. They say 2 days is the magic number & think about all the people, not just the passengers on that flight, who might be at risk. Even her seats mates who came home to give the wife a kiss, etc.

The financial risks of restricting travel to our economy is minuscule, at best. The risks of business as usual are far, far greater.
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#36 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 3:45 PM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
You can't get to Mexico or Canada from West Africa non-stop. You'd have to connect through a major hub. A travel ban would restrict flights to/from those cities affected. The only impact would be he airlines bottom line & the economy of cities in West Africa. Being that the major carriers only offer 1-2 flights a day to/from, the financial impact would be minimal. I really could care less about the economy of a dirt poor 3rd world country that could start s global pandemic. As far as I can tell, only Nigeria offers any major financial impact on the world, and that is with their oil. But, you have that whole Boko Harem thing going on over there, and that seems to be self-contained. In the long run I say, **** them, not us. It's quite simple, really.


It doesn't need to be non-stop jet. You can get from west africa to europe, then to canada on an air-canada flight.
Getting around isn't hard any longer.

The risk, as I said before, is that if you restrict travel, you restrict aid. If you restrict aid you run the risk that those countries go from a 0.2% infected to some ridiculously high number. The higher the percentage of infected in a country, the higher a risk of "spillover" into another country (including ours).
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#37 Posted: Wed, Oct 15 2014, 8:33 PM EST
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If you look at Africa, at the Ebola-stricken nations, the surrounding African nations have forbidden all travel between the nations that are stricken and their own. What does that tell us? That third world dictatorships in Africa are run by more intelligent men than Barack Obama.
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Guess I never realized we had such a financial dependance on West Affrica and it's air travel

You're a freakin idiot if you support NOT putting in a travel ban. WGAF about Africa's economy.

You can easily restrict civilian air travel while still allowing humanitarian aid to get through. It ain't rocket science unless you're the putz defending the big "O".
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#39 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2014, 8:05 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
It doesn't need to be non-stop jet. You can get from west africa to europe, then to canada on an air-canada flight.
Getting around isn't hard any longer.

The risk, as I said before, is that if you restrict travel, you restrict aid. If you restrict aid you run the risk that those countries go from a 0.2% infected to some ridiculously high number. The higher the percentage of infected in a country, the higher a risk of "spillover" into another country (including ours).



I'll. go. Slow. So. You. Can. Grasp. This.

Very simple, it takes a passport to fly so just like screening for terrorists ( which this issue is close ) it would be very EASY to flag ANYONE coming from these countries and post a NO FLY list with their names etc.
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#40 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2014, 8:08 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
http://www.skyalgae.info/Home/how-do-virusese-mutate-and-become-airborne

A quick primer on what airborne viruses actually means. (as opposed to someone sneezing a wad of snot into your mouth)




Let's be crystal clear here, the CDC changes DAILY what they know and how they HOPE to prevent the spread. Of course Dear Leader gives them their talking points FIRST.


What a tool he is, the leader of The Free World intentionally puts himself i( and his family ) n harms wayBrick wall
Although to be completely honest....I'm not mad at him :-"

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/touching.-nurses-Emory-safe/2014/10/15/id/601004/?ns_mail_uid=81019587&ns_mail_job=1590678_10162014&s=al&dkt_nbr=j64pbhwl
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#41 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2014, 9:09 AM EST
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gryphonms wrote:
Let me reiterate my point since I did not say it directly in number 1. I want to ban entrance to America for anyone that has been in West Africa until the Ebola epidemic is over. This can be done by checking passports, which can be done for all legal forms of entrance to America. Is it paranoid? Maybe yes, maybe no, I do not think there is enough statistical evidence to definitively answer that question.


You would have to stop them before they set foot in America. Checking passports once they are here it is a little too late. I believe that this was the case of the guy that died in Texas. People are less than truthful when asked questions about this kind of stuff. He didn't show sighs until he was here for a while. I believe that the incubation period for ebola is pretty broad. 2 to 21 days and as long as 42 days.
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#42 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2014, 9:37 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
You would have to stop them before they set foot in America. Checking passports once they are here it is a little too late. I believe that this was the case of the guy that died in Texas. People are less than truthful when asked questions about this kind of stuff. He didn't show sighs until he was here for a while. I believe that the incubation period for ebola is pretty broad. 2 to 21 days and as long as 42 days.



No why in Gods creation WOULD you wait till here on US soil? You check passports for ALL flights who's destination IS the US and BAN them until this thing is contained. Pretty simple really. Last I checked passports show country of origin
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#43 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2014, 9:50 AM EST
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There's no chance of Ebola being used as a biological weapon by suicidal extremists?
Nah... that would never happen.
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#44 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2014, 10:20 AM EST
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cacman wrote:
There's no chance of Ebola being used as a biological weapon by suicidal extremists?
Nah... that would never happen.


They could give us blankets and beads.

"You check passports for ALL flights who's destination IS the US and BAN them until this thing is contained." - So you are saying that we just close our boarders or to just Africans?
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#45 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2014, 10:42 AM EST
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Even Jay Carney is calling for a flight ban ...
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#46 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2014, 11:06 AM EST
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Hey JET....
To answer ur question...
I think JESSE JACKSON IS IN DALLAS TO
"Shake Down" the Texas Presbyterian
Hospital for that victims family...
I predict an
Undisclosed "out of court" settlement soon....
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#47 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2014, 11:24 AM EST
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cacman wrote:
Guess I never realized we had such a financial dependance on West Affrica and it's air travel

You're a freakin idiot if you support NOT putting in a travel ban. WGAF about Africa's economy.
.


Read my posts fully.

We don't depend on W. Africa air travel for our economy.

We do depend on international air travel in total for our economy. And we do depend on Canada/Mexico ground transportation for our economy. Both these would be severely slowed by increasing scrutiny of passport checks at the border.

Do you think someone from West Africa can only get here by flying direct?
Do you think checking the stamps and dates in the back 20 pages of every passport is going to be a quick process?

Quote:


You can easily restrict civilian air travel while still allowing humanitarian aid to get through. It ain't rocket science unless you're the putz defending the big "O"

....
Who do you think delivers the humanitarian aid?
Who do you think comprises the groups of Drs who travel to these countries to provide medical aid?

These are volunteers. They fly commercial flights. They sure as hell aren't going to volunteer to fly there (or a significant percentage won't) if they are concerned they will not be allowed to leave. Can we fly them in and out on non-commercial flights? sure. If they don't have faith that they will be provided with a means out, they aren't likely to go.
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#48 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2014, 11:27 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
I'll. go. Slow. So. You. Can. Grasp. This.

Very simple, it takes a passport to fly so just like screening for terrorists ( which this issue is close ) it would be very EASY to flag ANYONE coming from these countries and post a NO FLY list with their names etc.



Flag them where?

Terrorist monitoring is a coalition of countries all volunteering the information. We don't have information on where a person has come from until they get to our border. Then we look at their passport and check the stamps. Why do you think people go to mexico, fly to cuba from mexico, as the cubans not to stamp their passport... and then return to the US.

As much as you apparently want the US gov't to be a large overseeing big-brother type entity, it isn't.

You want to know if someone entering the US has been in liberia, you get to look through their passport and check for a liberian stamp. Then you get to check the date to see when they traveled there.

That takes time.
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#49 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2014, 11:35 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Let's be crystal clear here, the CDC changes DAILY what they know and how they HOPE to prevent the spread. Of course Dear Leader gives them their talking points FIRST.


What a tool he is, the leader of The Free World intentionally puts himself i( and his family ) n harms wayBrick wall
Although to be completely honest....I'm not mad at him Whistle

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/touching.-nurses-Emory-safe/2014/10/15/id/601004/?ns_mail_uid=81019587&ns_mail_job=1590678_10162014&s=al&dkt_nbr=j64pbhwl


First off, your link is broken.
Secondly, please read my link before trying to argue with it. It makes you look like an idiot to argue politics of even whether the CDC knows how ebola is spread when my link is a simple breakdown of the scientific definition of "airborne viruses".

If you had bothered to read the article, you'd see that I wasn't making a statement on how the Ebola virus is transmitted.
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#50 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2014, 7:08 PM EST
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You Victor on the other hand need NO help whatsoever to look like an Idiot, I'm Guessing it just comes naturally.
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