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O'Blunder at it again
Burner02 Offline
#1 Posted:
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Obama Flubs: George Washington Lived in the White House

Just before the Super Bowl kicked off this weekend, NBC’s Savannah Guthrie visited the White House kitchen for a few words with President Obama, only to discover that the football fan in chief is a little shaky on American history.

During the discussion with NBC, President Obama said that they are making beer in the White House kitchen.

Dressed in casual shirt with the sleeves rolled up, Obama told Guthrie, “We make beer. First president since George Washington to make some booze in the White House.”

The only problem is, as Greg Pollowitz noted, George Washington didn’t make any “booze” in the White House. In fact, not only was George Washington no longer president in the year 1800 when construction on the White House was finished, he had already been dead for a year. The first president to live in the People’s House was our second president, John Adams.

George Washington didn’t live in the White House, much less make any “booze” there.




Just making chit up as he goes Gonz
wluffman Offline
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Two thoughts on this.

First, he's a politician and politicians tend to lie about everything. Since he was telling this to an NBC correspondent, he felt safe that he wouldn't be seriously challenged on anything he said.

Second (and being much more charitable than he deserves), he was trying to be a storyteller. The first rule of effective storytelling is, "never let the truth get in the way of a good tale."

Unfortunately for the Resident, he isn't likeable enough to get away with his fabrications, except with the low- and no-information segments of the public. (Those segments apparently include a lot of the Honorables on Capitol Hill; or perhaps they know the truth and just don't care as long as they stay in power.)

He should have spent more time studying Mother Goose and the Brothers Grimm, and less reading Saul Alinsky. Bill Clinton wasn't really believed most of the time either, but at least he was charming enough that people gave him a pass as long as he didn't lie *too* outrageously. (And most of Clinton's biggest lies were about his personal life, where most people don't really want to look closely.)

Unlike her husband, Hillary is a very poor liar. She only gets a pass from her devoted followers because of her politics ... which they *think* they understand, but I suspect most of them really don't.
jetblasted Offline
#3 Posted:
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He's an idiot.
Burner02 Offline
#4 Posted:
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wluffman wrote:
First, he's a politician and politicians tend to lie about everything.




I can't disagree with this statement.
jackconrad Offline
#5 Posted:
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The World is falling apart and the President is making beer??
Shades of Nero as Rome burned ...
Krazeehorse Offline
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Unless some of us get to sample it we can't even be sure it's beer. It may taste like the stuff that sponsors professional sports.
jetblasted Offline
#7 Posted:
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You would "hope" that he'd at least know the history of the house he's occupied for 6 years. It's obvious this man just loves to hear himself talk.

He's an idiot.
victor809 Offline
#8 Posted:
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Not to deflate anyone's outrage, but George Washington did make his own beer... At least according to a rudimentary google search. Perhaps Obama was trying to say that he was the first president to make beer while in the presidential house since Washington (and neglecting to note or remember that the presidential house changed location during the early history of the us)... Now, I don't know if that is true or not... Maybe Lincoln made beer.
But I'm sure the outrage over Obama's reference to George Washington being in the white house is a constructive use of our time.

At least he was right about Washington making his own beer (something I didn't know)... But hey, I'm a glass half full of beer kinda guy.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Maybe if the usurper spent less time golfing he'd learn something about the house he lives in and the history of the men who lived there. There are some great long term employees who worm there that know alot about the history.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Maybe if the usurper spent less time golfing he'd learn something about the house he lives in and the history of the men who lived there. There are some great long term employees who worm there that know alot about the history.


Worm? That's a dance isn't it.
HockeyDad Offline
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Obama's White House beer recipes are published. I have made one of the two recipes.

I had high hopes for it but it actually turned out rather on the flat side.
DrafterX Offline
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George Washington died from eating dinner in wet clothes... Mellow
jackconrad Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
Obama's White House beer recipes are published. I have made one of the two recipes.

I had high hopes for it but it actually turned out rather on the flat side.

You must not have had his newest brew called "Executive Order ! It really bites you in the ass !
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Many of the posters here would probably not have liked George Washington as President either. He used federal troops to put down the "Whiskey Rebellion," which was a violent protest against the federal tax on whiskey. He also owned many slaves and he "cheated" on Martha often. Nor was he a great General. He outsmarted the British even though many of his junior officers were either stupid or incompetent. At Yorktown, there were more French troops there than Colonials and it was the French Fleet that bottled up Cornwallis.
Obama's point was not about who lived in the White House but who made booze.
victor809 Offline
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Don't get me wrong... He should know that as president right now he doesn't have any room for errors, that there are a lot of people ready to manufacture outrage over the silliest crap. He should have thought more carefully about his words and not said anything if he wasn't sure.

But it's a big yawn.
HockeyDad Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Don't get me wrong... He should know that as president right now he doesn't have any room for errors, that there are a lot of people ready to manufacture outrage over the silliest crap. He should have thought more carefully about his words and not said anything if he wasn't sure.

But it's a big yawn.



He can make errors. What are they gonna do......not re-elect him?!
victor809 Offline
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Didn't he already do that "scoreboard!" Thing?
jetblasted Offline
#18 Posted:
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What he said was, He, likes he loves to refer to himself so much, was the first president to make booze in the White House.

It seems the "outrage", if you will, is not the act of making booze, even though booze is made from distilling, but the fact he said that Washington did it in the White House, when GW was dead before the WH was opened.

I would have to do some research, but I seriously doubt no president never had a facility on site way back then. Many presidents were well known to have their own distilleries.

That's really not the issue here. The funny thing is beating the subject to death defending his blunder. He said it, he was wrong, people made fun of him.

Let it go, victor. He was wrong. To continue to defend his flub makes you look silly.

Next story.

Please.
teedubbya Offline
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My outrage meter is at defcon 7

Dumbest thing to be upset about in a long time.
DrafterX Offline
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you should really mellow out a little... Mellow
gryphonms Offline
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TW, I am sure something dumber can and will be found.
DrafterX Offline
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Yes, he will continue to act stupidly...Mellow
Burner02 Offline
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No outrage here.


But I do stand by what I first stated, "Just making chit up as he goes Gonz "
jetblasted Offline
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Difference Between a Sociopath, a Compulsive, a Pathological, a Chronic, and a Habitual Liar?

A Sociopath

A sociopath is typically defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. A sociopath is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused - it is done to get one’s way). Sociopaths have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. Sociopaths are often charming and charismatic, but they use their talented social skills in manipulative and self-centered ways (see, lovefraud, for more on sociopaths).


Compulsive Liar

A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (unlike sociopaths), rather they simply lie out of habit - an automatic response which is hard to break and one that takes its toll on a relationship (see, how to cope with a compulsive liar).

The terms Pathological Liar, Habitual Liar and Chronic Liar are often used to refer to a Compulsive Liar
victor809 Offline
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jetblasted wrote:

Let it go, victor. He was wrong. To continue to defend his flub makes you look silly.

Next story.

Please.


Dude... I agreed he was wrong. See where I said "He should know that as president right now he doesn't have any room for errors," and "He should have ......not said anything if he wasn't sure"

I would be interested to know if any other sitting president made beer/booze while in the presidential residence. That's actually more obscure information (if true) than George Washington not living in the white house.

Of course, it's possible he's wrong on both counts. But I just can't bring myself to bother researching a negative.
Bitter Klinger Offline
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Obamapologist.

Hi Vickie! :)
DrafterX Offline
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Laugh
gryphonms Offline
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He has certainly been more right on most issues, though he is seldom correct.
victor809 Offline
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Bitter Klinger wrote:
Obamapologist.

Hi Vickie! :)


Hey... it's the resident idiot, amelia.
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google searched the White House grounds and found no bee hives, but did find the vegetable pots being put into the garbage bin, I was wondering why she pulled up a carrot bunch from the ground and there was no dirt on the carrots.
Bitter Klinger Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Hey... it's the resident idiot, amelia.


Aww... C'mon Vickie, I'd ask how's it hangin', but that camel toe don't exactly hang, now does it? Frying pan

Is your glass half full for Hitlary lying about landing under sniper fire because she once rode on an airplane? Liar
victor809 Offline
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Bitter Klinger wrote:
Aww... C'mon Vickie, I'd ask how's it hangin', but that camel toe don't exactly hang, now does it? Frying pan

Is your glass half full for Hitlary lying about landing under sniper fire because she once rode on an airplane? Liar


Yep... exactly the kind of stupid comments I'd expect from you.
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