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Jordans stand on terrorism.
gryphonms Offline
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I applaud them. The Islamic State murdered 1 Jordanian pilot, Jordan executed 2 terrorists. What say you?
dstieger Offline
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Weren't those two already on death row?

I'm looking forward to see them fly north and bomb the **** of some Isisians
MACS Offline
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gryphonms wrote:
I applaud them. The Islamic State murdered 1 Jordanian pilot, Jordan executed 2 terrorists. What say you?


I say it's a start. You?
HockeyDad Offline
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NBC needs to send Brian Williams to cover the story.
victor809 Offline
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He covered that story last week.
MACS Offline
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victor809 wrote:
He covered that story last week.


Was he the hero?
victor809 Offline
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He performed the execution himself.
victor809 Offline
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*executions
gryphonms Offline
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MAC'S, I think terrorists should never be negotiated with. Though Jordan supposedly was until the pilot was murdered. I think Jordan's situation is different than ours in that terrorists are in their back yard. In my opinion Jordan needs to forget about moral high ground and act with so much vengeance that terrorists are thinking about survival instead of Jihad.
TMCTLT Offline
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gryphonms wrote:
MAC'S, I think terrorists should never be negotiated with. Though Jordan supposedly was until the pilot was murdered. I think Jordan's situation is different than ours in that terrorists are in their back yard. In my opinion Jordan needs to forget about moral high ground and act with so much vengeance that terrorists are thinking about survival instead of Jihad.




Absolutely agree !!!!
MACS Offline
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gryphonms wrote:
MAC'S, I think terrorists should never be negotiated with. Though Jordan supposedly was until the pilot was murdered. I think Jordan's situation is different than ours in that terrorists are in their back yard. In my opinion Jordan needs to forget about moral high ground and act with so much vengeance that terrorists are thinking about survival instead of Jihad.


I agree, and feel we should do exactly the same. What moral high ground are we protecting?

Eff 'em. If they are fully prepared to die for their religion, we should support that decision and kill the mother effers.
TMCTLT Offline
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MACS wrote:
I agree, and feel we should do exactly the same. What moral high ground are we protecting?

Eff 'em. If they are fully prepared to die for their religion, we should support that decision and kill the mother effers.



Again I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment Beer
teedubbya Offline
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My grandfather was born in the late 1800s and my grand mother in 1901 or 2. When I was in highschool (early 80s) I mortified them by suggesting we shouldn't be paying for Japan's defense. It was when Japan was going to buy out America and you should have been buying crappy American cars rather than reliable nip cars. To them suggesting japan arm and defend itself was a really stupid idea. I understand and understood why. But times had changed.

It will be interesting to find out in 35-40 years where this issue sits. It's easy to get blinded in the moment.
TMCTLT Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
My grandfather was born in the late 1800s and my grand mother in 1901 or 2. When I was in highschool (early 80s) I mortified them by suggesting we shouldn't be paying for Japan's defense. It was when Japan was going to buy out America and you should have been buying crappy American cars rather than reliable nip cars. To them suggesting japan arm and defend itself was a really stupid idea. I understand and understood why. But times had changed.

It will be interesting to find out in 35-40 years where this issue sits. It's easy to get blinded in the moment.




Left unchecked history can have a way of coming back to bite you in the ass. We've been paying the price ever since for whooping their asses in the 2nd WW by allowing them an unfair advantage in our market IMHO. I don't disagree with US auto makers putting out some inferior products @ that time but doesn't mean we should continue with NAFTA. I don't condone the bailout and or the Gov. taking over GM however many seem okay with the banking industry being considered " too big to let fail " where's all that outrage???
frankj1 Offline
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here's some stuff to consider about this particular version of a Muslim enemy, some of my info culled from a NPR interview recently...

ISIS is not a nation, has no real designs on taking a nation in the way we define nations. They are not terrorists looking to establish a border defined state of their own for ideal Islamic life. And because of this and other factors I am going to say, it is a mistake to approach this enemy with conventional military thought.

Rather than land grabbers, this group is made up of a fanatical band of believers in an apocalytic dream (not sure if I am using the correct word "apocolyptic") and are looking to rid the world of the impure, the infidels, the trash, the enemy, the unclean, the "fill in the blank"...in the belief that it must be done for the "end" to come.

This is why they are undisturbed by the thoughts and sights of horrific murders as these are done with a joyful heart, fulfilling prophesies of some sort. I'm not remotely suggesting we accept them, but imagine believing beyond doubt that you are serving your version of the supreme will and power of the universe properly. Euphoria, no? Easy to believe that other's lives are of the devil and brutal death is deserved. Smiley faces at executions.

Land/territory is of no long lasting value. This is why they have no problem invading and demolishing cities and towns that have zero strategic value. Not because they want to take over, they want to wipe out. Oh the end will be glorious.

But because they are not identifiable by borders, because they arise from all locations, urban neighborhoods, rural areas, it is not possible to defeat them geographically. A new paradigm of warfare is required. This is not simple, their methods excite many, some are lost souls, some already believe, and recruitment comes from everywhere...including the USA.

So much for profiling.

Theorists have proposed that partly due to having no real "roots" like conventional nationalities and cultures, this movement will eventually burn out and must be battled as hot spots develop until such time as they are inconsequential...but even those who buy this plan believe that will take a very long time.




tailgater Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
My grandfather was born in the late 1800s and my grand mother in 1901 or 2. When I was in highschool (early 80s) I mortified them by suggesting we shouldn't be paying for Japan's defense. It was when Japan was going to buy out America and you should have been buying crappy American cars rather than reliable nip cars. To them suggesting japan arm and defend itself was a really stupid idea. I understand and understood why. But times had changed.

It will be interesting to find out in 35-40 years where this issue sits. It's easy to get blinded in the moment.


In 40 years we'll be driving ICIS cars and watching Jihad Televisions?
teedubbya Offline
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If we are lucky.
borndead1 Offline
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It's about time the more rational Middle Eastern countries start cleaning up the garbage in their own back yards.

It look like Egypt may get in on this too. ISIS just executed 21 Egyptians.
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