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frankj1 Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Apr 17 2015, 9:34 PM EST
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http://www.safeshare.tv/w/cqjiYhtiXs

Guess they didn't care for him lecturing the Queen.
I have no point to make, just found it topical...

almost posted in General Discussion
jackconrad Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Apr 17 2015, 10:20 PM EST
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These people have gone completely mad..
TMCTLT Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 8:49 AM EST
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Looks like they handled it PERFECTLY.....Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause
Gene363 Offline
#4 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 9:32 AM EST
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"...there is no bomb..." for now.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#5 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 9:32 AM EST
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He wasn't the conductor, he was just someone from the audience who walked up on stage and picked up the mic - some of the musicians left the stage, some didn't. I would presume because they probably were concerned, note how he kept repeating "There is no bomb".

Also, this happened 4 years ago.

Here's a translated article on the incident:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://nos.nl/artikel/269747-man-verstoort-concert-met-koningin.html&prev=search

And the full video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1A_az3KANA

Apparently, he's a repeat offender for these kind of party crashing speeches.
tailgater Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 10:00 AM EST
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His speech must have struck a cord...
Gene363 Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 10:45 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
His speech must have struck a cord...


He hit a sour note... hard.
frankj1 Offline
#8 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 11:51 AM EST
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normally I would have done a check on something like this, but it came to me from a normally unimpeachable source...my mother. Course, she's 95 and got it from a 90 year old friend...

I knew the risk.
tailgater Offline
#9 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 12:08 PM EST
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Like when you eat week old mutton. You know the risk.
tailgater Offline
#10 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 12:10 PM EST
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If that dude did have a bomb, they'd be singing a different tune.
MACS Offline
#11 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 2:39 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
If that dude did have a bomb, they'd be singing a different tune.


They would not be singing... that's fuh sho, yo.

I'd have handled that poorly. I'd have tackled him and started punching.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 2:54 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
normally I would have done a check on something like this, but it came to me from a normally unimpeachable source...my mother. Course, she's 95 and got it from a 90 year old friend...

I knew the risk.



That's ok. Allah still loves you.
Abrignac Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 5:51 PM EST
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Would this have been handled differently had he professed faith in Christianity instead?
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 6:01 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Would this have been handled differently had he professed faith in Christianity instead?



There would be a lot less cheering coming from the board here and a lot more outrage. And the guy would still have been arrested.
frankj1 Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 6:30 PM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
That's ok. Allah still loves you.

maybe, but his food sucks. can't find a good halal deli anywhere.
Abrignac Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 6:58 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
maybe, but his food sucks. can't find a good halal deli anywhere.



I don't know about a halal deli, but wheel may be of assistance in locating some halal sex education videos.
MACS Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Apr 19 2015, 8:38 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Would this have been handled differently had he professed faith in Christianity instead?


The orchestra may have stayed... much less risk of being blown up.

Just saying.
TMCTLT Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Apr 19 2015, 9:10 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Would this have been handled differently had he professed faith in Christianity instead?




Difference IS, MOST if not ALL Christians would NOT try to highjack such an event to get their meassage of "Tolerance " out. F*ck that clown, he got the reaction he deserved IMO.
Speyside Offline
#19 Posted: Sun, Apr 19 2015, 9:20 AM EST
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^+1 This was totally inappropriate.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, Apr 19 2015, 11:46 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
The orchestra may have stayed... much less risk of being blown up.

Just saying.



Because Christians have never blown anything up as part of a terror campaign, right?

Ever heard of the Irish Republican Army?

Go Jesus!
TMCTLT Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Apr 19 2015, 1:53 PM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Because Christians have never blown anything up as part of a terror campaign, right?

Ever heard of the Irish Republican Army?

Go Jesus!



And that has WHAT to do with THIS conversation?? Did the IRA or someone else fly planes into buildings or decapitate people from ALL over the World? Have they crept into every segment of society WORLD WIDE and DEMANDED acceptance?

Go allah.....d'oh!
MACS Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Apr 19 2015, 2:46 PM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Because Christians have never blown anything up as part of a terror campaign, right?

Ever heard of the Irish Republican Army?

Go Jesus!


Those guys were just the "extremists", though... Think
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Apr 19 2015, 2:55 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Those guys were just the "extremists", though... Think



You were supposed to say "Go Santa!", you jackhole.
Abrignac Offline
#24 Posted: Sun, Apr 19 2015, 6:05 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Difference IS, MOST if not ALL Christians would NOT try to highjack such an event to get their meassage of "Tolerance " out. F*ck that clown, he got the reaction he deserved IMO.



So a video of one guy trying to evangelize those to his religion and he speaks for a larger subset. Please.....




BTW, Muslims aren't the only people who hijack things.

"Terrorist Christian Crusader Hijacks a Plane in Mexico with Bible in His Hand"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDcEi1tUu-M
MACS Offline
#25 Posted: Sun, Apr 19 2015, 6:43 PM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
You were supposed to say "Go Santa!", you jackhole.


Oh... um, my bad?
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 12:18 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
Oh... um, my bad?


Not a South Park fan, eh?
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#27 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 12:25 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
And that has WHAT to do with THIS conversation?? Did the IRA or someone else fly planes into buildings or decapitate people from ALL over the World? Have they crept into every segment of society WORLD WIDE and DEMANDED acceptance?

Go allah.....d'oh!



So your entire definition of a terrorist group is based on hijacking planes and beheadings?

Last time I checked, the IRA had blown up more than a few civilians in the name of their cause back in the day. Oh wait, most of them were Britons, so it's ok because they weren't from all over the world?

I seem to also recall that you said you wanted to go around decapitating random Muslims as retribution for the actions of ISIS. Some biblical bull**** about eye for an eye. Since people of the Muslim faith exist in virtually every country and you want to chop their heads off, I guess you're just a terrorist now too.

My point, made to MACS, and not you, is that the belief that "Christians" are not capable of such atrocities, is a fallacy.
teedubbya Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 8:16 AM EST
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That's not what Coach K says.
TMCTLT Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 8:42 AM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
So your entire definition of a terrorist group is based on hijacking planes and beheadings?

Last time I checked, the IRA had blown up more than a few civilians in the name of their cause back in the day. Oh wait, most of them were Britons, so it's ok because they weren't from all over the world?

I seem to also recall that you said you wanted to go around decapitating random Muslims as retribution for the actions of ISIS. Some biblical bull**** about eye for an eye. Since people of the Muslim faith exist in virtually every country and you want to chop their heads off, I guess you're just a terrorist now too.

My point, made to MACS, and not you, is that the belief that "Christians" are not capable of such atrocities, is a fallacy.




For you to even compare the two IS IDIOTIC......and by all means show me where I wanted to go on a decapitating mission. And I'll try to remember to not comment on anything you say as your quite fragile and bias on who comments. Yes there ?IS a HUGE difference, it would be like saying Brett Kinberland ( Speedway Bomber of the 80's) is also the equivalent to ISIS.....d'oh!
TMCTLT Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 8:51 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
So a video of one guy trying to evangelize those to his religion and he speaks for a larger subset. Please.....




BTW, Muslims aren't the only people who hijack things.

"Terrorist Christian Crusader Hijacks a Plane in Mexico with Bible in His Hand"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDcEi1tUu-M






Unless I'm mistaken he was NOT invited as a speaker to evangelize his religious views and got the treatment he deserved. No not the only ones Anthony just the MAJORITY!!!!!!
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 8:53 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
For you to even compare the two IS IDIOTIC......and by all means show me where I wanted to go on a decapitating mission. And I'll try to remember to not comment on anything you say as your quite fragile and bias on who comments. Yes there ?IS a HUGE difference, it would be like saying Brett Kinberland ( Speedway Bomber of the 80's) is also the equivalent to ISIS.....d'oh!



So, the IRA didn't commit acts of terrorism according to you?

I never compared them. I simply named a "Christian" terrorist group because an implication was made that "Christians" would never do such things.

As for you advocating cutting people up:
TMCTLT wrote:
Because you seem to think we should take a " higher moral ground " F..THAT....you fight fire with fire. Just a **** soon as you capture some of theirs you start lopping off body parts and sending them to their camps...let them **** figure out what belongs to who. You don't have a clue on how these people think and to believe that they'll understand ANYTHING short of the game being played by THEIR RULES in just ignorant. They Love how were stupid enough to adhere to Geneva conv. Rules n such while they horrify families here and abroad with beheading videos and funerals to attend. And little bitches like you have a problem with a touch of torture when these Animals are not forthcoming with info.....I don't give two ****....water board em do whatever it takes to save American lives. You didn't have to say anything about homosexuality, you seem to know a scary amount already, not that there's anything wrong with that :-"


https://www.cigarbid.com...n-Amendment#post3927435

TMCTLT wrote:
It's interesting to me that TW addressed both of us in his post....yet YOU choose not to comment on your miserable Ass going over there to " play nice with terrorists " I would lop those who do this to Americans heads off in a F'n heartbeat AND probably....probably still sleep well @ night.....as I know I did what I HAD TO DO. See Victoria...I started out and would end my life a Better Person as I would not routinely do something like THAT to a fellow " human being " but they are NOT that.....They ARE ANIMALS in the 1st degree and I would simply be performing a civic duty for my fellow peace and Freedom loving Human friends.....I know it's a tough concept for you To grasp....see in my mind they DO what they do because they thrill to the shock and awe shown by most when something this barbaric is done to human beings, I see performing the same task as Evening the score.....leveling the playing field however you want to put it. PayBack if you will

I would have but One request though if I were handed a beheading sword as You put it.....it would have to be by YOU sweetheart.....


https://www.cigarbid.com...in-Amendment#post3927977
Abrignac Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 9:37 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Unless I'm mistaken he was NOT invited as a speaker to evangelize his religious views and got the treatment he deserved. No not the only ones Anthony just the MAJORITY!!!!!!


If I'm not mistaken there are something like a billion or so Muslims. But, a very small number of them make up terrorist groups. Based off the though you've lumped them all together. Yet, you brush aside the fact that Christian groups have killed as many if not more non-combatants. If I'm not mistaken there's a noun for that.
Abrignac Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 9:39 AM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
So, the IRA didn't commit acts of terrorism according to you?

I never compared them. I simply named a "Christian" terrorist group because an implication was made that "Christians" would never do such things.

As for you advocating cutting people up:


https://www.cigarbid.com...n-Amendment#post3927435



https://www.cigarbid.com...in-Amendment#post3927977


Seems someone has a short memory span. Not surprised.
teedubbya Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 10:12 AM EST
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Maybe he just lost his head
teedubbya Offline
#35 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 10:57 AM EST
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There were no planes in OKC so it doesn't count. Atlanta neither. The Jewish defense league are largely just misunderstood. We all have our share of extremist idiots.
victor809 Offline
#36 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 11:39 AM EST
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... ummm....


why are you guys stealing all my entertainment away from me?
tailgater Offline
#37 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 11:55 AM EST
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So all that matters is what religion a terrorist is?
So an anti government OKC style bombing is just as damning to Christians as a jihadist car bomb is towards Muslims?

Sorry. When I see IRA and OKC as a rebuttal to inflammatory Muslim bashing it makes me realize how uniquely dangerous the Muslim terrorist threat truly is.
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#38 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 12:46 PM EST
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we are not misunderstood!!! j/k

also, grammar alert: JD League IS misunderstood, not "are". Collective noun, takes third person singular verb form.
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#39 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 1:03 PM EST
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^ grammar extremist.

Careful or he'll bomb your library.

(no biggie, nobody goes to the library any more.)
TMCTLT Offline
#40 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 1:39 PM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
So, the IRA didn't commit acts of terrorism according to you?

I never compared them. I simply named a "Christian" terrorist group because an implication was made that "Christians" would never do such things.

As for you advocating cutting people up:


https://www.cigarbid.com...n-Amendment#post3927435



https://www.cigarbid.com...in-Amendment#post3927977




TMCTLT wrote:
Because you seem to think we should take a " higher moral ground " F..THAT....you fight fire with fire. Just a **** soon as you capture some of theirs you start lopping off body parts and sending them to their camps...let them **** figure out what belongs to who. You don't have a clue on how these people think and to believe that they'll understand ANYTHING short of the game being played by THEIR RULES in just ignorant. They Love how were stupid enough to adhere to Geneva conv. Rules n such while they horrify families here and abroad with beheading videos and funerals to attend. And little bitches like you have a problem with a touch of torture when these Animals are not forthcoming with info.....I don't give two ****....water board em do whatever it takes to save American lives. You didn't have to say anything about homosexuality, you seem to know a scary amount already, not that there's anything wrong with that :-"


Some of theirs = the terrorist pricks doing this to fellow human beings ( not innocent people, which IS what they engage in!!!! )



It's interesting to me that TW addressed both of us in his post....yet YOU choose not to comment on your miserable Ass going over there to " play nice with terrorists " I would lop those who do this to Americans heads off in a F'n heartbeat AND probably....probably still sleep well @ night.....as I know I did what I HAD TO DO. See Victoria...I started out and would end my life a Better Person as I would not routinely do something like THAT to a fellow " human being " but they are NOT that.....They ARE ANIMALS in the 1st degree and I would simply be performing a civic duty for my fellow peace and Freedom loving Human friends.....I know it's a tough concept for you To grasp....see in my mind they DO what they do because they thrill to the shock and awe shown by most when something this barbaric is done to human beings, I see performing the same task as Evening the score.....leveling the playing field however you want to put it. PayBack if you will

I would have but One request though if I were handed a beheading sword as You put it.....it would have to be by YOU sweetheart.....


Again,I thought I made self pretty clear here.....Those who DO this SH*t to Americans or ANY other INNOCENT.

I do not in any way condone terror in ANY FORM to include OKC, but AGAIN to use it ( a single example of terror on innocent Americans ) as a comparison to what is unfolding from ISIS and the like is laughable @ best.....
TMCTLT Offline
#41 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 2:00 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
So a video of one guy trying to evangelize those to his religion and he speaks for a larger subset. Please.....




BTW, Muslims aren't the only people who hijack things.

"Terrorist Christian Crusader Hijacks a Plane in Mexico with Bible in His Hand"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDcEi1tUu-M







No they're not, they're just the ONLY ones flying them full of innocent people into skyscrapers filled with MORE innocent people. Let's just forget the guy in Mexico was an alcoholic and druggie and the Muslim terrorists were just High on the koran....


Mexico - a Bolivian man acted alone in Mexico hijacking, official says A 44-year-old Bolivian drug addict and alcoholic who describes himself as a church minister was the sole person responsible for the brief hijacking Wednesday of a commercial jetliner, a Mexican official said see more at http://cnn.com or http://newsstorynow.blogspot.com Bolivian man acted alone in Mexico plane hijacking, official says Mexico City hijacking ends peacefully and Mexican authorities take away suspects Hijacking suspects taken away -
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#42 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 2:37 PM EST
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I guess you forgot about Oklahoma City.
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TMCTLT wrote:
No they're not, they're just the ONLY ones flying them full of innocent people into skyscrapers filled with MORE innocent people. Let's just forget the guy in Mexico was an alcoholic and druggie and the Muslim terrorists were just High on the koran....


Mexico - a Bolivian man acted alone in Mexico hijacking, official says A 44-year-old Bolivian drug addict and alcoholic who describes himself as a church minister was the sole person responsible for the brief hijacking Wednesday of a commercial jetliner, a Mexican official said see more at http://cnn.com or http://newsstorynow.blogspot.com Bolivian man acted alone in Mexico plane hijacking, official says Mexico City hijacking ends peacefully and Mexican authorities take away suspects Hijacking suspects taken away -


So by your logic, an alcoholic/druggie can't be a terrorist? Thanks for clearing that up. I would have never guessed. Are you saying one is a terrorist if the blow up something that is occupied by non-combatants?
MACS Offline
#44 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 4:48 PM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Not a South Park fan, eh?


No sir... never watched it.
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#45 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 5:19 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
^ grammar extremist.

Careful or he'll bomb your library.

(no biggie, nobody goes to the library any more.)

grammar is dead, sad to say. I just wanted to beat Macs to the punch.

I still go to the library, but usually to pick up music i reserved online.

did I just hijack my own thread? Consider this an act of terror by the JDL, no longer misunderstood.
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#46 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 5:19 PM EST
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MACS if you ever watch one south park I suggest the breast cancer awareness episode. I think it's my favorite.
teedubbya Offline
#47 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 5:20 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
grammar is dead, sad to say. I just wanted to beat Macs to the punch.

I still go to the library, but usually to pick up music i reserved online.

did I just hijack my own thread? Consider this an act of terror by the JDL, no longer misunderstood.



gramma aint that bigga thang yo
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#48 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 6:01 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
No sir... never watched it.



You're missing out.
MACS Offline
#49 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 6:42 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
grammar is dead, sad to say. I just wanted to beat Macs to the punch.

I still go to the library, but usually to pick up music i reserved online.

did I just hijack my own thread? Consider this an act of terror by the JDL, no longer misunderstood.


Beat me to the punch? You threw a haymaker, brother... Subject/verb agreement is beyond what I would attempt to teach.
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#50 Posted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 6:44 PM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
You're missing out.


Seen bits and pieces. Kinda like Family Guy to me... some of it is funny, but most of it is ridiculously stupid so it can't hold my attention.
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