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Last post 8 years ago by victor809. 23 replies replies.
Where's the Line?
8trackdisco Offline
#1 Posted:
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Somewhere, there is a line between life style choices and mental illness.

Somewhere between standard, heterosexual, men and women getting married and brutal, necrofellia rape of animals is what our society considers okay.

Do you think that as our society "progresses" everything and anything will be celebrated as simply a lifestyle choice?
99cobra2881 Offline
#2 Posted:
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If things continue the way they have been I don't see a line ever being drawn.
ZRX1200 Offline
#3 Posted:
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Your microagressive trigger words are sexist and hurtful.
ZRX1200 Offline
#4 Posted:
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Your microagressive trigger words are sexist and hurtful.
riverdog Offline
#5 Posted:
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It sounded so nice, gotta say it twice.;-)
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted:
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Will we be able to marry our cousins..?? Huh
TMCTLT Offline
#7 Posted:
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99cobra2881 wrote:
If things continue the way they have been I don't see a line ever being drawn.



Yup Beer

Well excepting maybe hetero relationships....they will be Outlawed








































Sarcasm
Brewha Offline
#8 Posted:
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I think the line is where your life style messes up other people's lives. Or damages our physical or social environment.

I could don't give a Shiite if you're gay, an absolute moralist, or even which god you believe in- if one at all.
Just don't mess things up for the rest of us.
sd72 Offline
#9 Posted:
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#Ellen2016
DrafterX Offline
#10 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
I think the line is where your life style messes up other people's lives. Or damages our physical or social environment.

I could don't give a Shiite if you're gay, an absolute moralist, or even which god you believe in- if one at all.
Just don't mess things up for the rest of us.



or warps our children's minds.... nobody ever thinks about the childrens... Sad
99cobra2881 Offline
#11 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
or warps our children's minds.... nobody ever thinks about the childrens... Sad


or the puppy dogs, nobody ever thinks of the puppy dogs.
tonygraz Offline
#12 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
or warps our children's minds.... nobody ever thinks about the childrens... Sad



Not true, pedophiles think a lot about the children.
DrafterX Offline
#13 Posted:
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freak.... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#14 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
or warps our children's minds.... nobody ever thinks about the childrens... Sad

Now that's a sticky one:
There are people who believe teaching children science, like evolution, warps them as it steers them away from God.
And there are also those who believe that teaching them religious ideas, burning in hell for example, warps them.

I suppose the only truly "safe" thing to do would be to teach them the high points of all world views, and let them reason it out for themselves. Of cource some people feel the the young should be told what to believe....sounds a bit warping to me....
fiddler898 Offline
#15 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
Somewhere, there is a line between life style choices and mental illness.


I'm sorry, but this makes absolutely no sense. May as well say there's a line somewhere between apples and hammers.

Lifestyle choices & mental illness? Do too many inappropriate (to you) lifestyle choices cause mental illness?
victor809 Offline
#16 Posted:
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fiddler898 wrote:
I'm sorry, but this makes absolutely no sense. May as well say there's a line somewhere between apples and hammers.

Lifestyle choices & mental illness? Do too many inappropriate (to you) lifestyle choices cause mental illness?


Actually, I understand to some extent 8's meaning.
Let's look at transgenders as a pretty easy example. Someone born genetically female, who's convinced they are a male, and should actually have an appendage which they do not have (not to mention a whole host of secondary sexual traits)... If this weren't in any way related to sex, we would probably classify this as a mental illness (just look up "Body integrity identity disorder").

To some extent, anything that is not within the immediate range of "normal" becomes classified as a mental illness. Transgenders, homosexuality, bisexuality..... or to strike a little closer to home, obesity, addiction... anger....

Of course, even if you want to look at it as a mental illness, we generally try to accommodate members of our society who DO have mental disorders to ensure they can live as normal a life as possible (ie, making accommodations in schools for children with autism or ADHD...) so even if you chose to identify another person's sexuality as a mental disorder, that doesn't actually absolve you from anything.
gummy jones Offline
#17 Posted:
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im trans tiger

dont judge me
fiddler898 Offline
#18 Posted:
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Victor, your middle paragraph actually substantiates my post. Thank you.
victor809 Offline
#19 Posted:
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fiddler898 wrote:
Victor, your middle paragraph actually substantiates my post. Thank you.


Maybe a bit of clarification? I'm still befuddled.
DrafterX Offline
#20 Posted:
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He said, 'your middle paragraph actually substantiates my post. Thank you.'

Mellow
cacman Offline
#21 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
Somewhere, there is a line between life style choices and mental illness.

Or maybe it's a lifestyle choice based on a mental illness?
fiddler898 Offline
#22 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
To some extent, anything that is not within the immediate range of "normal" becomes classified as a mental illness. Transgenders, homosexuality, bisexuality..... or to strike a little closer to home, obesity, addiction... anger....


First, "normal" is a subjective term, subject to individual (in this case, the OP) or subject to culture. Many gay men and women are perfectly normal regardless of others' opinions of their orientation. And second, grouping together the traits that you do does a better job than I at revealing their dissimilarity, thereby suggesting it is nowhere near as simple as establishing a false continuum and then saying there should be a line somewhere.

Sorry to have been so vague.
victor809 Offline
#23 Posted:
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fiddler898 wrote:
First, "normal" is a subjective term, subject to individual (in this case, the OP) or subject to culture. Many gay men and women are perfectly normal regardless of others' opinions of their orientation. And second, grouping together the traits that you do does a better job than I at revealing their dissimilarity, thereby suggesting it is nowhere near as simple as establishing a false continuum and then saying there should be a line somewhere.

Sorry to have been so vague.


Ah,
I'm sorry. I should have been clearer. When I said "normal" I should have said statistical "mean" (in as much as one can create an average in sexuality)... one would state that anyone fitting within x Standard deviations of wherever the majority hits is "normal" in this case. What I'm getting at, is I don't use the normal in any cultural or moral manner, just whatever is close to the largest percentage of humans.

One could make the following statements in that case:
Absolute honesty is not normal, and possibly a mental illness (not just "honest"... but an outlier in terms of honesty)... just as pathological lying is a mental illness.

Asexuality, and nymphomania then become mental illnesses, as they bracket the norm.

Extreme piety can be classified as a mental illness, as could extreme atheism.
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