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teedubbya Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 3:43 PM EST
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Are the prices generally decent compared to retail etc? I usually go to look at all the candy but haven't seriously compared prices. I'm going to another this weekend and will probably pick something up (although the obammy hysteria may drive prices up).
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 3:49 PM EST
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Just ask them nicely to meet you in the parking lot... Mellow
elRopo Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 3:51 PM EST
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prices at the shows are generally no better than the retail stores but, the selection is much better. Usually a great many used firearms for sale at gun shows as well as curio and relic type guns. A good venue to compare features of various mfg.
gummy jones Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 3:55 PM EST
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there are plenty of gougers at gun shows but you can still find some deals, especially on less popular or antique/military type stuff. i dont even go anymore but i used to enjoy them. i went to my last one after the newtown panic, was disgusted by the incredible price gouging, and havent been back since.

its hard to beat online prices.
teedubbya Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 4:05 PM EST
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I go every few months but more to browse. Haven't been seriously in the market. But I'd pick the right one up if I saw it. Selection of new around here (non-gun show) is pretty vast. been looking at cabellas lately.
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#6 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 7:10 PM EST
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[quote=gummy jones]there are plenty of gougers at gun shows but you can still find some deals, especially on less popular or antique/military type stuff. i dont even go anymore but i used to enjoy them. i went to my last one after the newtown panic, was disgusted by the incredible price gouging, and havent been back since.

its hard to beat online prices.[/quote]



Yessir, just find an FFL near you TW that's willing to handle the transaction beforehand. There's usually a very nominal fee involved AND you get to establish a relationship with the owner...win win
Mr. Jones Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 8:43 PM EST
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^^#1 TW....

Be very leary buying a gun at a flyby night
gun show....
The sellers run the gamut of good to terrible.
No guarantees at all.

They are great places to compare guns, feel the actions and workmanship.
Great places to buy ammo, clips/ magazines, holsters, gun parts, ...i.e. extras....

I have only bought one rifle at a gun show and I did my homework for months before going.

Unless it comes in a new box, don't buy it.
teedubbya Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 8:47 PM EST
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I've got a buddy that's ffl. He's a fanatic with enough guns for his own militia, does his own smithing as well. I just don't want to make it the center of my life which involving him will do for awhile.
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#9 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 8:56 PM EST
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When I buy a gun I can't get out of my ffl's house in under 2 hours. The dude is a talker and always wants to show me 50 things. Just when I think I'm done his son comes down and does the same (they are both armorers).
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#10 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 9:02 PM EST
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teedubbya, I have bought guns offline and used an ffl out here in Cali.

Try Bud's Gun Shop in KY. Some very good prices and even with shipping and my FFL's fee, it was $150 cheaper to buy it from Bud's then from a store or gun show out here.
I have found some guys will haggle at gun shows, you just have to know what price you can get it for elsewhere so you can leverage.

I got the "well you can't get the gun for about 7-10 days if you get it offline vs. 3 days from us" bit.

But then I told the guy, "I don't NEED the gun right away, now are you going to match that price or not?"
teedubbya Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 12:06 AM EST
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Going with my buddy the gunsmith to a show on Saturday. He also wants to downsize and says he'll give me a good deal. I think I want a 9mm though which is an issue with him. He likes larger caliber and has no 9mm.
DrafterX Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 8:02 AM EST
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very little difference diameter wise between the 9mm and a 357.. like .002" or somethin... I've been looking for a 357 revolver myself.... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 8:55 AM EST
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elRopo wrote:
prices at the shows are generally no better than the retail stores but, the selection is much better. Usually a great many used firearms for sale at gun shows as well as curio and relic type guns. A good venue to compare features of various mfg.



+1 on this post.

Most people know what they have and know the pricepoint. You're not going to get a real 1861 Navy Colt revolver for 300 bucks.

It's a good way to put a set of eyes on stuff that places like Gander Mtn or Bass Pro Shop aren't ever going to carry.
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#14 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 9:03 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
very little difference diameter wise between the 9mm and a 357.. like .002" or somethin... I've been looking for a 357 revolver myself.... Mellow


How old an ol' boy are you? With you lookin' at wheel guns an all.fog Love my SP101!!!
DrafterX Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 9:30 AM EST
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I've got a semm-auto 9 that won't shoot hollow-points without jamming if I rapid fire.. Tried polishing it and stuff but just go with da round nose now... I've always liked loud so the revolver interests me... Mellow
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#16 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 9:53 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Going with my buddy the gunsmith to a show on Saturday. He also wants to downsize and says he'll give me a good deal. I think I want a 9mm though which is an issue with him. He likes larger caliber and has no 9mm.


with the variety of good defense ammo on the market today 9mm will do the trick

has become my favorite cartridge - just edging out 10mm
riverdog Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 2:58 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I've got a semm-auto 9 that won't shoot hollow-points without jamming if I rapid fire.. Tried polishing it and stuff but just go with da round nose now... I've always liked loud so the revolver interests me... Mellow


Then shoot em slow and deliberateThink
tonygraz Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 3:06 PM EST
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Shhhh, we want him to keep missing.
gummy jones Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 3:09 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I've got a semm-auto 9 that won't shoot hollow-points without jamming if I rapid fire.. Tried polishing it and stuff but just go with da round nose now... I've always liked loud so the revolver interests me... Mellow


then you need a new 9mm semi

i have never had such a problem with any of my modern 9mm semis and any round
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#20 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 3:09 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I've got a semm-auto 9 that won't shoot hollow-points without jamming if I rapid fire.. Tried polishing it and stuff but just go with da round nose now... I've always liked loud so the revolver interests me... Mellow


Did you try the hornady "stuffed hole" bullets?

They're filled hollow points and work fantastic. They cycle flawlessly in some of my pickier handguns. I mostly handload my ammo, and tailor it for the gun but for off the shelf I've not had any issue with these.
teedubbya Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 3:14 PM EST
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You lost drafter at "stuffed hole" he's probably putting on a latex glove as we speak
gummy jones Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 3:15 PM EST
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fresh outta lube

perfect
DrafterX Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 3:17 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
You lost drafter at "stuffed hole" he's probably putting on a latex glove as we speak



Mad
DrafterX Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 3:18 PM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
then you need a new 9mm semi

i have never had such a problem with any of my modern 9mm semis and any round



I was thinking that too.. prolly keep the old one around in case I need a throw-down... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 3:18 PM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
Did you try the hornady "stuffed hole" bullets?



might pick up a box... Think
teedubbya Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 3:21 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
might pick up a box... Think



practicing a wide stance again huh?
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#27 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 3:45 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I've got a semm-auto 9 that won't shoot hollow-points without jamming if I rapid fire.. Tried polishing it and stuff but just go with da round nose now... I've always liked loud so the revolver interests me... Mellow



Look at the Beretta 92FS series. Before the army chose to go with this model, they cycled something like 200,000 rounds through it without a single jam.
Has an open slide for this reason.

Great gun- have that in a 9mm and a 40 cal as well.

Hollow points in either will do the trick if it is ever needed- lets pray it never is.

9mm is cheaper on the wallet for the range.
DrafterX Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 3:50 PM EST
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I need some of those bullets that will go thru 8" of steel.... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 3:53 PM EST
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Do you mean a real 8" or the 4" you call 8"?
DrafterX Offline
#30 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 4:09 PM EST
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My 8"er is a full 8"... give or take a 1/4" depending on how much I've been drinking.. Mellow
tonygraz Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 4:17 PM EST
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So drinking makes you prone to exaggeration ?
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#32 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 4:19 PM EST
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I like the metric system.
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#33 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 4:20 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
So drinking makes you prone to exaggeration ?


No.
Just prone.
teedubbya Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 4:22 PM EST
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I heard when drafters boyfriend asks him to give him 8" and make it hurt drafter has to do him twice and slap him around a little.
DrafterX Offline
#35 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 4:24 PM EST
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Mad
gummy jones Offline
#36 Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2016, 4:59 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I heard when drafters boyfriend asks him to give him 8" and make it hurt drafter has to do him twice and slap him around a little.


His boyfriend sounds like a very stoic guy Whistle
teedubbya Offline
#37 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2016, 2:34 PM EST
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The p30 felt best in my hands. That and a fnx45
teedubbya Offline
#38 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2016, 2:36 PM EST
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I wanted to like the ppq but it didn't fit as well. The vp9 is also on my short list but the p30 felt better. Fireing them may be another story.
DrafterX Offline
#39 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2016, 6:03 PM EST
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you prolly prefer throbbing things in your hands huh... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#40 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2016, 6:16 PM EST
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Nah. Just got done doing that a few minutes ago.

Need to get to a range and rent a few. I like the feel of the hammer model but my buddy seems stuck on striker. I'd buy a p30 right now without fireing one just based on hand feel.
DrafterX Offline
#41 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2016, 6:21 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Nah. Just got done doing that a few minutes ago.



That very considerate of you... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#42 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2016, 6:33 PM EST
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Nobody was home.
DrafterX Offline
#43 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2016, 7:18 PM EST
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where was Louie-dog..?? Huh
Brewha Offline
#44 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2016, 7:24 PM EST
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Hope TW didn't use peanut butter.


Poor Louie dog....
DrafterX Offline
#45 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2016, 7:27 PM EST
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ya, poor Louie-dog... Sad
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#46 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2016, 9:33 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
+1 on this post.

Most people know what they have and know the pricepoint. You're not going to get a real 1861 Navy Colt revolver for 300 bucks.

It's a good way to put a set of eyes on stuff that places like Gander Mtn or Bass Pro Shop aren't ever going to carry.


I bought one for $35 about 10 years ago. It needs to be repaired though. The timing is off so the cylinder doesn't rotate properly. I also need a grip for it. IIRC, it's serial number is in the early 1/3.

Oops, my bad. I didn't read the thread correctly. Mine is a Colt New Navy in .41.
teedubbya Offline
#47 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2016, 9:45 PM EST
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I let Louie dog watch but never participate.
teedubbya Offline
#48 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2016, 9:46 PM EST
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I sure like the feel of the p30.
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#49 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2016, 9:51 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I sure like the feel of the p30.

that's what I heard.

you want one for your birthday?
teedubbya Offline
#50 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2016, 9:52 PM EST
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Yes. As well as a telefunken u47
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