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Buckwheat Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 3:42 PM EST
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A harder and more important question than who should do it. fog
teedubbya Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 3:46 PM EST
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How about a full 4 years without a vacation.
jjanecka Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 3:57 PM EST
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Low Taxes and higher Cattle prices. That's all I'm asking for.
DrafterX Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 4:00 PM EST
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Commie Bassard..!! Beef is already too high... Kill the Ethanol and prices will drop across the board..!! Mad
jjanecka Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 4:19 PM EST
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Commie?! I said low taxes and high beef prices! Not beef subsidies funded by tax increases!
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 4:30 PM EST
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Ok, maybe not commie... I was in the checkout line at the grocery store a while back.. The checkout girl girl informed me she could no longer afford ground beef... thought that was pretty sad... Mellow
jjanecka Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 4:47 PM EST
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Well, beef at the supermarket has no bearing on beef at the cattle market. We're not getting our fair cut either to say the least.
teedubbya Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 5:00 PM EST
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug75diEyiA0
DrafterX Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 5:11 PM EST
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Where's da beef..?? Laugh
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 5:23 PM EST
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How about we start with not breaking the law, respecting the separation of powers and trying to centralize more executive and federal powers. I humbly project that to both parties.
Speyside Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 5:44 PM EST
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^ +1
deadeyedick Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 6:42 PM EST
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Anybody ever think we need a balanced budget? Or is that just how regular people are expected to act not our political class? Brick wall
jjanecka Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 6:48 PM EST
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Balanced budget only matters as far as trade deficits in ralarion to other countires. We need to have a flexible dollar not an over powered one.
jjanecka Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 6:48 PM EST
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Relation*
deadeyedick Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 6:55 PM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
Balanced budget only matters as far as trade deficits in ralarion to other countires. We need to have a flexible dollar not an over powered one.


Is that how you run your own finances?Think

BTW, you are allowed to use the edit function.
MACS Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 9:52 PM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
Anybody ever think we need a balanced budget? Or is that just how regular people are expected to act not our political class? Brick wall


That's my #1 priority.

Things I'd like to see, in no particular order:

1. Secure borders
2. Repeal Obamacare
3. Welfare reform
4. Campaign finance reform
5. Military spending reform*

#5 is from my years watching the Navy waste money by over paying for everything. Politicians should be followed around by paparazzi more than actors... so we can catch them making back room deals with defense contractors and lobbyists.
MACS Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 9:54 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
How about a full 4 years without a vacation.


I'd settle for "no more vacation than what the military gets"... 30 days a year. Period.
Mattie B Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 10:29 PM EST
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I'd like to see mullets come back in style.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 10:53 PM EST
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Tax credits for buying shoes that protect from HepC in urine.
Gene363 Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 10:53 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
That's my #1 priority.

Things I'd like to see, in no particular order:

1. Secure borders
2. Repeal Obamacare
3. Welfare reform
4. Campaign finance reform
5. Military spending reform*

#5 is from my years watching the Navy waste money by over paying for everything. Politicians should be followed around by paparazzi more than actors... so we can catch them making back room deals with defense contractors and lobbyists.


Before these good points, be a leader for all of America.

As for vacations, take all you want, just do your JOB first.
watchurai Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 11:05 PM EST
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Term lengths for all Hill politicians.

Most of the rest will follow.
jjanecka Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2016, 11:35 PM EST
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Quote:
Is that how you run your finances?


How I run my finances is not the same as how I would run this country's. Paying off our deficit would create an ungodly strong dollar to the point where very few countries could afford our goods and services. It's already difficult to compete because of the manner some countries devalue their currencies. A strong dollar is great for imports but terrible for export. We need to ensure our goods can go to market in other countries so we can maximize our profits.
deadeyedick Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 12:14 AM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
How I run my finances is not the same as how I would run this country's. Paying off our deficit would create an ungodly strong dollar to the point where very few countries could afford our goods and services. It's already difficult to compete because of the manner some countries devalue their currencies. A strong dollar is great for imports but terrible for export. We need to ensure our goods can go to market in other countries so we can maximize our profits.


Thanks for the macro-economics lesson. Who said anything about paying off our deficit? I mentioned a balanced budget where we don't continue to run another deficit every year that all our kids and grandkids will be stuck with, although I do very strongly feel we should not only balance each year but start to incrementally pay down our $18T+ debt .

We are the generation that incurred it and we should manage it before it manages us.
mkurt Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 12:56 AM EST
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Someone who can deal with all the crap in politics without giving up our sovereignty as a nation. A nation built on the notion that hard work and dedication to things that really matter uplift people to their highest potential.
But seriously, we are screwed. Our society is breeding some really narcissistic superficial scumbags who ignore the lessons of history and embrace the moment like there is no tomorrow.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 8:12 AM EST
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Audit and then terminate the charter for the Federal Reserve.

That's all.
bs_kwaj Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 8:44 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Audit and then terminate the charter for the Federal Reserve.


And eliminate the IRS.

Oh yeah... and kill all the terrorists..

Beer

DrafterX Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 9:42 AM EST
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Think
Obama said unemployment causes terrorism.... so, we just need to kill everybody that doesn't have a job right..?? Huh
tonygraz Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 10:11 AM EST
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bs_kwaj wrote:
And eliminate the IRS....

Beer




Never quite understood that desire. Who will collect the taxes and check the tax returns ? If anything, we should give the IRS back their teeth because people are cheating on their taxes and getting away with it.



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Speyside Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 10:11 AM EST
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For the people would be nice.
cacman Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 10:17 AM EST
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How about prosecuting those in the previous administration for their illegal actions?
Mikekoz13 Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 12:07 PM EST
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cacman wrote:
How about prosecuting those in the previous administration for their illegal actions?


+1 You and i would get along quite nicely.
rfenst Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 12:27 PM EST
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cacman wrote:
How about prosecuting those in the previous administration for their illegal actions?


Not going to happen. Think Gerald Ford...
tonygraz Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 12:30 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Not going to happen. Think Gerald Ford...


Think also that Ford was not subsequently elected.



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cacman Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 12:33 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Not going to happen. Think Gerald Ford...

Wasn't Hillary involved with that too???

That woman has been involved in more "gates" than a fence company.
Buckwheat Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 12:48 PM EST
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cacman wrote:
Wasn't Hillary involved with that too???

That woman has been involved in more "gates" than a fence company.


You must be talking about this. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp
cacman Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 1:22 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
You must be talking about this. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp


All I asked was if Hillary was involved. Many will quibble whether she was fired, or if pressure was brought on Ziefman to recant his statement by the Clintons later. Point is she was there, then she wasn't. Like many other "gates" that followed.
DrafterX Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 4:09 PM EST
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Is Ziefman still alive..?? Huh
cacman Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 4:48 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Is Ziefman still alive..?? Huh

Good question? The Wiki seems to have been scrubbed.

He has a couple of books on Amazon: Hillary's Pursuit of Power and Without Honor: Crimes of Camelot and the Impeachment of Richard Nixon
DrafterX Offline
#39 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 4:54 PM EST
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He was prolly whacked... Mellow
tonygraz Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 4:59 PM EST
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Or maybe just whacked out.
sangrientopouertorican Offline
#41 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 5:06 PM EST
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Maybe he's in Barney Frank's basement.
DrafterX Offline
#42 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 5:42 PM EST
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That would be gay... Mellow
teddyballgame Offline
#43 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 7:04 PM EST
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In no particular order After #1:

1. Push for a Convention of the States for the states to take back their power.

2. Apply a fair or a flat tax.-Abolish the IRS (at least take away their guns- that goes with taking the guns away from the EPA as well)
3. Help pass a Constitutional amendment to limit members in congress to 12 years max. (2 senate terms, or 6 house terms or 1 senate term and 3 house terms)
4. While we are at it, term limit the Supreme Court- 12 or 15 yrs.. rotate the 3 senior justices out every 3 or 4 years
5. Help pass a Const. amendment that the government is not allowed to spend more than 18% of GDP
6. Help pass a Const. amendment that any program that is over $100 million has to be voted on every year to fund it, if not, the program is ended.
7. Pass a law saying that general accepted accounting principles that businesses use need to be used by the government and their "fuzzy math"
8. Secure the borders, build the wall that was overwhelmingly voted for, multiple times, but mysteriously never funded.
9. Allow 2 years for the states to overturn a Supreme Court decision by a 60% of the states agreeing to do so.
(How many laws do we need overturned or "okayed" by a 5-4 vote- 1 person with his or her political agenda making monumental decisions for the country?)

I realize that many of these will never be done unless the States, through the convention of states, submit and ratify amendments to the Constitution as provided in Article V.
Brewha Offline
#44 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 9:05 PM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:
In no particular order After #1:

1. Push for a Convention of the States for the states to take back their power.

2. Apply a fair or a flat tax.-Abolish the IRS (at least take away their guns- that goes with taking the guns away from the EPA as well)
3. Help pass a Constitutional amendment to limit members in congress to 12 years max. (2 senate terms, or 6 house terms or 1 senate term and 3 house terms)
4. While we are at it, term limit the Supreme Court- 12 or 15 yrs.. rotate the 3 senior justices out every 3 or 4 years
5. Help pass a Const. amendment that the government is not allowed to spend more than 18% of GDP
6. Help pass a Const. amendment that any program that is over $100 million has to be voted on every year to fund it, if not, the program is ended.
7. Pass a law saying that general accepted accounting principles that businesses use need to be used by the government and their "fuzzy math"
8. Secure the borders, build the wall that was overwhelmingly voted for, multiple times, but mysteriously never funded.
9. Allow 2 years for the states to overturn a Supreme Court decision by a 60% of the states agreeing to do so.
(How many laws do we need overturned or "okayed" by a 5-4 vote- 1 person with his or her political agenda making monumental decisions for the country?)

I realize that many of these will never be done unless the States, through the convention of states, submit and ratify amendments to the Constitution as provided in Article V.

Seems that states rights = states wrongs, historically.

We need reform of Wall Street and better banking regulation. Not that the wealthy would ever allow it.
And we need some trade protectionism.
And more green energy initiatives.

Oh, and let us all see what it is like to have a country that is not at war......
Pipe some of those billions into fixing the damn bridges and roads.
Brewha Offline
#45 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 9:13 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Audit and then terminate the charter for the Federal Reserve.

That's all.

Interesting.

Where would the United States barrow the monies for our currency if not from the private banking cartels?
Would we nationalize the banks? Seize private assets?

Could we issue our own money bases on government held assists?

Seriously, how do we get the wealthy off our backs?
tonygraz Offline
#46 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 10:55 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
That's my #1 priority.

Things I'd like to see, in no particular order:

1. Secure borders
2. Repeal Obamacare
3. Welfare reform
4. Campaign finance reform
5. Military spending reform*

#5 is from my years watching the Navy waste money by over paying for everything. Politicians should be followed around by paparazzi more than actors... so we can catch them making back room deals with defense contractors and lobbyists.


I'll go along with 4 and 5 wholeheartedly and perhaps # 1. I would also like to see vacation maximums for all 3 branches of government along with their pay rate increases the same % as those for social security and the minimum wage. I'm also leaning in favor of term limits for congress and want to see tax loopholes closed.
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#47 Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2016, 11:01 PM EST
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right wing commie slime.
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#48 Posted: Fri, Feb 5 2016, 5:26 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Interesting.

Where would the United States barrow the monies for our currency if not from the private banking cartels?
Would we nationalize the banks? Seize private assets?

Could we issue our own money bases on government held assists?

Seriously, how do we get the wealthy off our backs?



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teddyballgame Offline
#49 Posted: Fri, Feb 5 2016, 8:52 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Seems that states rights = states wrongs, historically.

We need reform of Wall Street and better banking regulation. Not that the wealthy would ever allow it.
And we need some trade protectionism.
And more green energy initiatives.

Oh, and let us all see what it is like to have a country that is not at war......
Pipe some of those billions into fixing the damn bridges and roads.



What states rights = states wrongs?

It was the states that pushed and fought for the end of slavery, the fed gov't was sanctioning it and the S.C. was ruling for it.

Protectionism? That is what helped to bring on the great depression. You think that if we start slapping tariffs on things, other countries won't retaliate with their own tariffs? Go look at a history book.

More Green initiatives? Like those that fostered the likes of Solyndra and $500 mil down the drain?
Green energy is fine, but don't put coal miners out of work and jack up heating prices on granny with policies that hamper and raise costs on energy producers. Why do you hate granny?

If green energy can stand on its own, without government funding, then great. Lets do that alongside with natural gas, coal, etc.

Government shouldn't be subsidizing any business.
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#50 Posted: Fri, Feb 5 2016, 10:05 AM EST
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I personally am for free deregulated trade. Next thing you know someone is gonna say cigars are bad for you and then try to tax and regulate them...

I'd also like to see another fireshow in the Middle East. We've been at peace for six years already. I need to see my tax dollars at work again. ;)
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