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DrafterX Offline
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States are moving to once again require able-bodied adults to put in work hours in exchange for food stamps, after the requirements largely were suspended by the Obama administration.

The slow-moving reversal follows the administration pulling back on Clinton-era changes that required recipients to work for government welfare benefits. Signing the reform bill in 1996 alongside then-Speaker Newt Gingrich, then-President Bill Clinton said the goal was to make welfare “a second chance, not a way of life.”

But during the last recession, President Obama allowed states to suspend a requirement that able-bodied adults without children work at least 20 hours per week or participate in a training program to receive benefits for more than three months.

He allowed recipients to stay on food stamps indefinitely, arguing the three-month maximum was unfair with unemployment at 10 percent.

"Food stamp recipients didn't cause the financial crisis, Wall Street did," said Obama at this past January’s State of the Union address.

Unemployment today is half of what it was in 2009, yet last year more than 40 states did not require welfare recipients to work.

Kansas was one of the first states to reverse that in 2013.

"I believe most Americans and most Kansans think it's common sense," said Andrew Wiens of the Kansas Department for Children & Families. "These are able-bodied adults without dependents. They don't have children in the home. They're not elderly, they're not disabled. These folks should be working."

Since Kansas reinstated work rules, food stamp rolls
dropped by 20,000 and the incomes of those who left increased by 127 percent, Wiens said.

The state also imposed limits on how recipients could use their benefits after finding some enrollees used their welfare cash and food stamps cards on cruise ships.

"Those benefits should be used for necessities," Wiens said. "You can't use them at casinos, strip clubs, massage or tattoo parlors."

Maine followed the Kansas lead in 2014. In the first three months, the number of able-bodied adults without children on food stamps fell by almost 80 percent. It also cracked down on recipients using their welfare benefits out of state after finding hundreds of Maine residents used their EBT cash cards at or near Disney World.

Film at 11.... Mellow
gummy jones Offline
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fog

thats racist!!!
DrafterX Offline
#3 Posted:
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Think



I don't know about that.... but it's prolly not a good idea right before election time..... Mellow
gummy jones Offline
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to be racist?

ill have to ask the experts at blacklivesmatter*

(*except when they dont)
gummy jones Offline
#5 Posted:
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[in regards to #2]

Sarcasm
cacman Offline
#6 Posted:
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States should also require a mandatory drug test if you're receiving welfare and free medical coverage.
DrafterX Offline
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true... true... Mellow
sd72 Offline
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I'd think a time limit, like unemployment has, would be better. Multigenerational welfare recipients driving new cars, going to Disney, and food stamping booze and tattoos is the merican way, but maybe today's merican way is jacked up.
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#9 Posted:
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Welfare outrage! ram27bat
DrafterX Offline
#10 Posted:
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I bet you still get to keep the Obama-phone & Obama-net tho... Mellow
tonygraz Offline
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They should have mandatory drug tests for anyone running for public office.
DrafterX Offline
#12 Posted:
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true... true.... kinda like applying for most other jobs... Mellow
jjanecka Offline
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It ain't rite, I own a shpo and got Dallas an Myrtle Beach on LOCK. Every Shpo got my back. I buy my ceegars wit stamps. Old cigars and Padron 1926.
Mithrandir Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
They should have mandatory drug tests for anyone running for public office.


hey, give me any drug and i'll test it for yaLOL
DrMaddVibe Offline
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SMOKEYOU wrote:
Welfare outrage! ram27bat



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mvP0ArKIGY

YES WE CAN!!!
Krazeehorse Offline
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We are screwed when it comes to welfare. It is cheaper to keep people that won't work on welfare than it is to put them in jail. It's a lose lose situation.
teedubbya Offline
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to me it's the same as the individual mandate on obammy care. we don't have the balls to follow through and let people die or starve after giving them reasonable choices.

Risk pool 101.... if you are not going to allow the keeper of the pool to screen people from entering that pool at a later date just because they have now developed a payable issue they didn't have earlier your pool is useless and short lived. You can't play the lottery after the numbers are pulled. You must pay in hoping to never use it in order to spread risk and have resources available when needed. Some argue that is why the individual mandate is necessary. In reality there is another way. You have a short window of time to participate and contribute. Your choice. You don't need to. But if you don't and you develop d!ck cancer later you come up with the 10 million dollars to treat it up front or we let you die. We don't have the balls for that. Working in the insurance industry I learned folks want to pay a minimum premium and get maximum benefit.... and since they are paying a 2 cent premium that's not welfare or socialism... even though what they pay in in no way is aligned with what they expect to receive.


welfare same thing. let them die or starve. if you are bad ass enough propose it and pursue it.
DrafterX Offline
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****** cancer sounds expensive.. prolly cheaper to just lop them off .. Mellow
victor809 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
****** cancer sounds expensive.. prolly cheaper to just lop them off .. Mellow


That's part of the *** panel decisionmaking.
teedubbya Offline
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them? drafter has more than one d!ck?
DrafterX Offline
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Just one but the womens wonder...I have many talents... Mellow
victor809 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Just one but the womens wonder...I have many talents... Mellow


Usually they wonder how you fit all those rolls into the girdle...
Brewha Offline
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cacman wrote:
States should also require a mandatory drug test if you're receiving welfare and free medical coverage.

Because you love Big Government?
Brewha Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
to me it's the same as the individual mandate on obammy care. we don't have the balls to follow through and let people die or starve after giving them reasonable choices.

Risk pool 101.... if you are not going to allow the keeper of the pool to screen people from entering that pool at a later date just because they have now developed a payable issue they didn't have earlier your pool is useless and short lived. You can't play the lottery after the numbers are pulled. You must pay in hoping to never use it in order to spread risk and have resources available when needed. Some argue that is why the individual mandate is necessary. In reality there is another way. You have a short window of time to participate and contribute. Your choice. You don't need to. But if you don't and you develop d!ck cancer later you come up with the 10 million dollars to treat it up front or we let you die. We don't have the balls for that. Working in the insurance industry I learned folks want to pay a minimum premium and get maximum benefit.... and since they are paying a 2 cent premium that's not welfare or socialism... even though what they pay in in no way is aligned with what they expect to receive.


welfare same thing. let them die or starve. if you are bad ass enough propose it and pursue it.

It takes balls to watch some one starve or die?????

Think
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Brewha wrote:
It takes balls to watch some one starve or die?????

Think

more balls than heart.
teedubbya Offline
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Actually I'm saying it's easy to talk big but takes balls to follow through. It's not a value judgement, more of a politics can be like an Internet tough guy comment. It's easy to act tough when you know you don't have to follow through. If certain people had to follow through on their nonsense the front end would look very different.
victor809 Offline
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Are you suggesting all those guys who said they're going to kick my azz over the interwebs might not be completely honest????

Damn... That's going to put a serious damper on my masturbation routine....
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Mellow
tonygraz Offline
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Threats over the interwebs are Victor's Viagra ?
Brewha Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Are you suggesting all those guys who said they're going to kick my azz over the interwebs might not be completely honest????

Damn... That's going to put a serious damper on my masturbation routine....

Maybe you could just watch Road House......
victor809 Offline
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I swear... no one gets my sense of humor....
Brewha Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Actually I'm saying it's easy to talk big but takes balls to follow through. It's not a value judgement, more of a politics can be like an Internet tough guy comment. It's easy to act tough when you know you don't have to follow through. If certain people had to follow through on their nonsense the front end would look very different.

The sadness here is that so many cotton to leaders that use harsh inhumanity as a selling point.

But I guess checkers sell more than chess.....
Brewha Offline
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victor809 wrote:
I swear... no one gets my sense of humor....

Sorry Vic - figured you for a Patrick Swayze fan....



Don't worry about it though - people never seem to understand us liberals.
frankj1 Offline
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victor809 wrote:
I swear... no one gets my sense of humor....

now THAT'S funny!
teedubbya Offline
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I don't find victor funny at all but I don't expect anyone to be both funny and dreamy.
victor809 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
I don't find victor funny at all but I don't expect anyone to be both funny and dreamy.


I do strive to be one or the other at any point in time.
teedubbya Offline
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Never seen funny but yous gots dreamy down. Can I get an amen?
teedubbya Offline
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I'm drunk and flying to Montana.
teedubbya Offline
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Ok I'm not drunk. Just didn't want to look gay and stuff.
teedubbya Offline
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Oh and when I say I'm going to ride a Pygmy pony that's very different then when drafter admitted to blowing a donkey.
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teedubbya wrote:
Ok I'm not drunk. Just didn't want to look gay and stuff.


I seriously almost spit out my coffee....
gummy jones Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Oh and when I say I'm going to ride a Pygmy pony that's very different then when drafter admitted to blowing a donkey.


Is a Pygmy pony in the same genre as a trouser snake? d'oh!
victor809 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Never seen funny but yous gots dreamy down. Can I get an amen?


What about when I talked the guy into an "I'm sorry" dance? I get no credit for that? :)
teedubbya Offline
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You did get credit. I'm wearing those glasses right now even though he sprayed stuff all over them.
teedubbya Offline
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Funny a Pygmy pony has nothing to do with trousers but everything to do with dental floss.
gummy jones Offline
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I'm just happy they are hygienic Applause
victor809 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
You did get credit. I'm wearing those glasses right now even though he sprayed stuff all over them.



I've seen that fetish....
Didn't know you guys met up with him after I left....
tonygraz Offline
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Ramen !
Stinkdyr Offline
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End Welfare Breeding in our time.

fog
MACS Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
They should have mandatory drug tests for anyone running for public office.


I'd go a step further, and I've said this before, make them pass the same background checks that LEO's have to go through. Along with the drug test... Background questionnaire, autobiography, credit check, criminal records check, psychological screening, and a polygraph to see if they were honest on their questionnaire.

That's not unreasonable. If we're requiring law enforcement applicants to do this, why not politicians?
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