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But God Forbid we Displace One Polar Bear..!!
DrafterX Offline
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The Obama administration is revising a federal rule that allows wind-energy companies to operate high-speed turbines for up to 30 years, even if means killing or injuring thousands of federally protected bald and golden eagles.

Under the plan announced Wednesday, companies could kill or injure up to 4,200 bald eagles a year without penalty -- nearly four times the current limit. Golden eagles could only be killed if companies take steps to minimize the losses, for instance, by retrofitting power poles to reduce the risk of electrocution.

Fish and Wildlife Service Director Dan Ashe said the proposal will "provide a path forward" for maintaining eagle populations while also spurring development of a pollution-free energy source that's intended to ease global warming, a cornerstone of President Barack Obama's energy plan.

Ashe said the 162-page proposal would protect eagles and at the same time "help the country reduce its reliance on fossil fuels" such as coal and oil that contribute to global warming.

"There's a lot of good news in here," Ashe said in an interview, calling the plan "a great tool to work with to further conservation of two iconic species."

The proposal sets objectives for eagle management, addresses how bird populations will be monitored and provides a framework for how the permitting system fits within the agency's overall eagle management, Ashe said.

Wind farms are clusters of turbines as tall as 30-story buildings, with spinning rotors as wide as a passenger jet's wingspan. Blades can reach speeds of up to 170 mph at the tips, creating tornado-like vortexes.

The Fish and Wildlife Service estimates there are about 143,000 bald eagles in the United States, and 40,000 golden eagles.

Wednesday's announcement kicks off a 60-day comment period. Officials hope to issue a final rule this fall.

The plan was developed after a federal judge in California blocked a 2013 rule that gave wind energy companies a 30-year pass to kill bald and golden eagles.

U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh ruled last August that the Fish and Wildlife Service failed to follow environmental procedural requirements in issuing the 2013 directive. The agency classified its action as an administrative change from a 2009 rule, excluding it from a full environmental review.

The agency adopted the 30-year rule as a way to encourage the development of wind energy, a key source of renewable power that has increased exponentially in recent years. A previous rule allowed wind farms to apply for renewable five-year permits.

Golden and bald eagles are not endangered species but are protected under the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. The laws prohibit killing, selling or otherwise harming eagles, their nests or eggs without a permit.

Under the new proposal, companies would pay a $36,000 fee for a long-term permit allowing them to kill or injure eagles. Companies would have to commit to take additional measures if they kill or injure more eagles than estimated, or if new information suggests eagle populations are being affected.

The permits would be reviewed every five years, and companies would have to submit reports of how many eagles they kill. Now such reporting is voluntary, and the Interior Department refuses to release the information.

Film at 11..... Brick wall Brick wall
teedubbya Offline
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the eagle is a symbol of US greatness and majesty. He sure hates Eagles. I heard he had Glen Frey killed and stuff.
DrafterX Offline
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That Bassard..!! Mad
DrafterX Offline
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So where are all the Save da Whales and Such peoples..?? Huh
danmdevries Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
So where are all the Save da Whales and Such peoples..?? Huh


Read the story, it's about eagles, not whales. Frying pan
teedubbya Offline
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prolly busy bbqing eagles
DrafterX Offline
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Those Bassards..!! Mad


Prolly making headdresses for FSU too.. Mad


teedubbya Offline
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I heard papa murphys makes pizza sauce out of eagles and baby seals using a vitamix
DrafterX Offline
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what's the ratio..?? Huh
MACS Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
I heard papa murphys makes pizza sauce out of eagles and baby seals using a vitamix


If they do, it's the best evah... but you knew that.
DrafterX Offline
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This still pisses me off... Mad
Speyside Offline
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Green power seems to be all that matters.
tonygraz Offline
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More birds are killed by airplanes and power lines than anything else, so should we stop flying and ban electricity ? I don't think many birds are killed by wind power - lots of outrage but little evidence.
tailgater Offline
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I like how they call the them "high speed turbines".

Makes them sound like they're jet fueled turbo props.


DrafterX Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
I don't think many birds are killed by wind power - lots of outrage but little evidence.



prolly why they're allowed to kill 4200 now instead of 1050.... and that's if they decide to report them.. Mellow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEersoJLtRw
DrafterX Offline
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I think denying wind farm eagle kills is a form of mental illness.... Mellow
Buckwheat Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
I heard he had Glen Frey killed and stuff.


And that's a bad thing? Sarcasm
tonygraz Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
I think denying wind farm eagle kills is a form of mental illness.... Mellow


That's what the fossil fuel industry pays people to say.
DrafterX Offline
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Why do you hate our country's National Bird so much..?? Huh
tonygraz Offline
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I know you don't believe in facts, but for those who might: http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/wind-turbine-kill-birds.htm
DrafterX Offline
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no body cares about sparrows... Not talking

we're talking about eagles here... Shame on you
sd72 Offline
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Wait, did a polar bear fly into a windmill?
bgz Offline
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The smart ones won't fly into the windmills.
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The Minnesota Vikings hate birds too.

http://www.startribune.com/vikings-won-t-enhance-stadium-to-protect-migrating-birds/268319662/
teedubbya Offline
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keep your eye on the sparrow
DrafterX Offline
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screw the sparrows... Not talking
teedubbya Offline
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freak... you sure you aren't bloody?
DrafterX Offline
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Damn sure... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
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Ok I'll test.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
DrafterX Offline
#30 Posted:
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Cause Bloody's deek was stuck in it. . Laugh
banderl Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Cause Bloody's ****** was stuck in it. . Laugh



His D E E K?
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Is it just me or does anyone else find polar bear fur coats to be coarse?
DrafterX Offline
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As course as a horse..?? Huh
DrMaddVibe Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
As course as a horse..?? Huh



I don't have a horse coat...yet!

Although I just did buy a Paso Fino...Think
frankj1 Offline
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a horse is a coarse, of course of course
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