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OBAMA URGES AMERICANS TO TAMP DOWN INFLAMMATORY RHETORIC
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Confronting another killing of police officers, President Barack Obama on Sunday urged Americans to tamp down inflammatory words and actions as a violent summer collides with the nation's heated presidential campaign.

Obama said the motive behind Sunday's killing of three officers in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, was still unknown. It was the latest in a string of deadly incidents involving law enforcement, including the police shooting of a black man in Baton Rouge and the killing of five officers in Dallas.

"We as a nation have to be loud and clear that nothing justifies attacks on law enforcement," Obama said in remarks from the White House briefing room.

The president spoke on the eve of the Republican Party's national convention, where Donald Trump will officially accept the GOP nomination. The businessman has cast the recent incidents as a sign that the country needs new leadership, often using heated rhetoric to make his point.

Obama said that going into the political conventions, elected officials and interest groups should focus their words and actions on uniting the country, rather than dividing it.

"We don't need inflammatory rhetoric. We don't need careless accusations thrown around to score political points or to advance an agenda. We need to temper our words and open our hearts ... all of us," Obama said.

The president also seemed intent on demonstrating again his support for law enforcement. Some organizations have cast doubt on that support. The National Association of Police Organizations said after the Dallas shooting that America was in the midst of a war on law enforcement officers. The group said the administration needed to show political leadership by "supporting them and giving them the resources they need to protect themselves and their communities."

"Attacks on police are an attack on all of us and the rule of law that makes society possible," Obama emphasized Sunday.

The president spoke earlier Sunday with Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards and Baton Rouge Mayor Kip Holden to hear the latest on the investigation into the shootings and pledge federal support.

Obama has spent most of the last week focused on defusing tensions and rebuilding trust between police departments and the communities they serve.

On July 7, an Army veteran opened fire on law enforcement in Dallas, killing five and wounding seven other officers. The shooter, who was black, said he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers. Obama spoke at the memorial service for the officers killed and told Americans not to despair, that the nation is not as divided as it might seem.

In his remarks Sunday, Obama reminded people that he had also said the Dallas shooter would not be the last person to try to make Americans turn on each other.

"Nor will today's killer. It remains up to us to make sure that they fail. That decision is all of ours," Obama said.

Following the Dallas memorial, Obama held an extraordinary four-hour meeting at the White House's executive offices with police officers, community activists and elected leaders. He emerged from the session saying "we're not even close" to the point where minority communities could feel confident that police departments were serving them with respect and equality or where police departments could feel adequately supported at all levels. He also said the country would have to "just grind it out" in solving the tensions.

The shooting of the police officers in Dallas and Baton Rouge were preceded by police shootings of two black men, Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge and Philando Castile in suburban St. Paul, Minnesota, which sparked protests around the country. Dallas police were defending protesters in that city when the gunman opened fire on them.

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Do as I say...not as I do???
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"You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot, I said that this could have been my son," said Obama, who entered the White House briefing room Friday afternoon without notes or a teleprompter. "Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me, 35 years ago."

"And when you think about why, in the African-American community at least, there's a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it's important to recognize that the African-American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn't go away."

“…there are real “problems” and a “deep distrust” that exists “between law enforcement and people of color” around the country. “We need to recognize that the situation in Ferguson speaks to the broader challenges that we face across the nation…”


"We also know that centuries of racial discrimination, of slavery, and subjugation, and Jim Crow; they didn't simply vanish with the law against segregation. They didn't necessarily stop when a Dr. King speech, or when the civil rights act or voting rights act were signed. Race relations have improved dramatically in my lifetime. Those who deny it are dishonoring the struggles that helped us achieve that progress. But we know...

But America, we know that bias remains. We know it, whether you are black, or white, or Hispanic, or Asian, or native American, or of Middle Eastern descent, we have all seen this bigotry in our own lives at some point. We've heard it at times in our own homes. If we're honest, perhaps we've heard prejudice in our own heads and felt it in our own hearts. We know that. And while some suffer far more under racism's burden, some feel to a far greater extent discrimination's stain. Although most of us do our best to guard against it and teach our children better, none of us is entirely innocent. No institution is entirely immune, and that includes our police departments. We know this."


I can do this using one hand on my phone even! He needs to STFU and acknowledge he's the biggest part of the problem on why race relations is at a boiling point.
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Applause
DrMaddVibe wrote:
"You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot, I said that this could have been my son," said Obama, who entered the White House briefing room Friday afternoon without notes or a teleprompter. "Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me, 35 years ago."

"And when you think about why, in the African-American community at least, there's a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it's important to recognize that the African-American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn't go away."

“…there are real “problems” and a “deep distrust” that exists “between law enforcement and people of color” around the country. “We need to recognize that the situation in Ferguson speaks to the broader challenges that we face across the nation…”


"We also know that centuries of racial discrimination, of slavery, and subjugation, and Jim Crow; they didn't simply vanish with the law against segregation. They didn't necessarily stop when a Dr. King speech, or when the civil rights act or voting rights act were signed. Race relations have improved dramatically in my lifetime. Those who deny it are dishonoring the struggles that helped us achieve that progress. But we know...

But America, we know that bias remains. We know it, whether you are black, or white, or Hispanic, or Asian, or native American, or of Middle Eastern descent, we have all seen this bigotry in our own lives at some point. We've heard it at times in our own homes. If we're honest, perhaps we've heard prejudice in our own heads and felt it in our own hearts. We know that. And while some suffer far more under racism's burden, some feel to a far greater extent discrimination's stain. Although most of us do our best to guard against it and teach our children better, none of us is entirely innocent. No institution is entirely immune, and that includes our police departments. We know this."


I can do this using one hand on my phone even! He needs to STFU and acknowledge he's the biggest part of the problem on why race relations is at a boiling point.


Applause
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He is right though. His rhetoric has been part of the problem but that aside if we really want things to get better you need to start somewhere. There is a cycle that must be broken but can't be if we are all entrenched.

At some point you need to set aside the past and go forward from where you are.
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Politics need to be set aside. Our entire country is hurting. No matter what you think the problem is, each of us needs to become part of the answer.
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teedubbya wrote:
He is right though. His rhetoric has been part of the problem but that aside if we really want things to get better you need to start somewhere. There is a cycle that must be broken but can't be if we are all entrenched.

At some point you need to set aside the past and go forward from where you are.


Yet he uses the past to justify the anger of African Americans.

The Great Divider.
Trump was never more spot on.

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I agree on your first point but think trump is just as problematic. We need a leader and a statesman. Neither is currently being offered. Trump is a carnival barker and opportunist that makes things worse to leverage for personal gain.
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Trump is also a great devider. He's just more blatant about it.
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tailgater wrote:
Yet he uses the past to justify the anger of African Americans.

The Great Divider.
Trump was never more spot on.


I suppose if is further evidence that people tend to see what they want to see.

To me, Trump is a flip flopping weasel that is forever grandstanding to the public, playing to their darker side.

Last night on 60 minutes he said "we need law and order".
Now that's a thunder bolt out of a clear sky....
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Meanwhile, Hillary is playing the people's. ... .


Nah... just not into it today... Mellow
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I'm with you drafter. Complete lack of leadership and statesmanship all around.
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It's to bad many will choose between the lesser of 2 evils. If everyone chose to vote 3rd party a message would be sent, and possibly true change would be beginning.
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If only there was one... Mellow



Just kiddin of course... maybe if he made some noise and offered more than just 'the lesser of two evils'.... Mellow
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Wait - what's wrong with Hillary?



- just kiddin'
Herfing
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Hillary belongs in jail, and embodies what is wrong with our current system.

Trump is an egotistical blowhard.
But he's outside the current two party system. So much so that his own party doesn't unanimously support him.

We all want to shake it up, but when given the opportunity we get weak knees.

Man up and take a chance on the outsider. The NON politician.
And 4 years from now we won't even have to vote him out because he'll be stepping down because he hated the pay cut.

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hopefully he was looking in the mirror while saying it

i never even knew i was a racist until obama and his admin (holder, lynch, etc) told me day in and day out that i was

truthfully never even crossed my mind prior...
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Brewha wrote:
I suppose if is further evidence that people tend to see what they want to see.

To me, Trump is a flip flopping weasel that is forever grandstanding to the public, playing to their darker side.

Last night on 60 minutes he said "we need law and order".
Now that's a thunder bolt out of a clear sky....





In Trumps defense....@ this point it is " rhetorical TALK " as he IS NOT POTUS.....but BARRY on the other hand IS and HAS clearly shown himself to be THE GREAT DIVIDER....there's NO defending this man who has shown only contempt for our country...and it's Laws@ this point he has shown his true color (s) again and again....he IS a RACIST if ever there was one.

After all, I do not recall him writing a book titled" My Mothers Dreams " in fact he has the ability to completely ignore that half of his geneology
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Who's funding BLM? Dnot look there.... .
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gummy jones wrote:
hopefully he was looking in the mirror while saying it

i never even knew i was a racist until obama and his admin (holder, lynch, etc) told me day in and day out that i was

truthfully never even crossed my mind prior...


+1 What I was thinking, well, minus the expletives. fog
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Who's funding BLM? Dnot look there.... .



I AM interested in that.
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It seems the obvious has gotten by everyone here. How many unjustified killings of blacks in confrontations does it take to piss one or more of them off enough to fight back. You can blame anybody for the problem, but it really is the actions of bad or poorly trained police that is the cause. Suddenly Trump is for law and order , but only playing politics. How many racist comments has he made in the last year ?
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Tony, I do not think that is the problem. The only thing obvious is black America is hurting. Studies are very conflicted on kill rates by police of blacks versus whites. Studies do seem to support agressive traffic stops by police are much greater towards blacks than whites.

I think we should be looking at the systemic problem of poverty in poor neihborhoods. Also we should be looking at alowing police to do only police work, they are not councilors or psychiatrics.
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Yeah Trolly...

Guy from Missouri drives all the way to Baton Rouge to kill cops. He posted on YouTube that he was doing it for the black women and the children.

Really doubt he did it cuz his hommie got capped for driving while black.

Only a true evil P.O.S. wants cops killing anyone for no reason. Most normal people want zero murders. But now we have one segment protesting a portion of their deaths, while a minority of said group is going insane. Meanwhile the WASPS are bad if they point out that the majority of their deaths are at their own hands, and have issues seeing the reasons behind that angle. But I suppose if the Waka doodle commies in Amerika look at a cause of death that's smaller than lightning strikes, baseball bats and bees and see a chance to ban something than anything is possible.

God bless your little opaque heart.
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tonygraz wrote:
It seems the obvious has gotten by everyone here. How many unjustified killings of blacks in confrontations does it take to piss one or more of them off enough to fight back. You can blame anybody for the problem, but it really is the actions of bad or poorly trained police that is the cause. Suddenly Trump is for law and order , but only playing politics. How many racist comments has he made in the last year ?




Yesssss, it has Nothing to do with the poorly trained perps on how to behave in general let alone when confronted by law enforcement. As Allen pointed out the numbers are not real clear on how many Blacks vs Whites are killed @ the hands of law enforcement....what IS clear....they are not willing to allow the LAW and justice to play out before immediately resorting to violence and blame those who are NOT immediately responsible forthe death of their loved ones. THIS SHOULD NOT BE MEASURED IN ANY WAY BY USING ONLY SKIN COLOR AS THE SCALE OF JUSTICE!!!!!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, this IS part and parcel what Obama the community organizer meant when he promised " fundamental CHANGE"
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tonygraz wrote:
It seems the obvious has gotten by everyone here. How many unjustified killings of blacks in confrontations does it take to piss one or more of them off enough to fight back. You can blame anybody for the problem, but it really is the actions of bad or poorly trained police that is the cause. Suddenly Trump is for law and order , but only playing politics. How many racist comments has he made in the last year ?


Therein lies the issue... almost every one of the lives BLM is holding up as a poster boy was a career criminal, or was breaking the law, or was resisting arrest... Yes, one or two were totally unjustified, but in those the cop was fired or sent to prison.

I'm not saying killing is right. It happens to whites and hispanics, too... and it's wrong no matter what. But perception in this case is not reality. Look into the case studies.

I'm not a fan of Crowder, but he did a good job of covering this case by case:

http://louderwithcrowder.com/blacklivesmatter-memes-debunked/#.V41b6NIrIps
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/white-house-rebuffs-calls-to-be-lit-up-blue/article/2596821

So instead of his race baiting he's just going to ignore the matter.
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There's golf to play.
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MACS wrote:
Therein lies the issue... almost every one of the lives BLM is holding up as a poster boy was a career criminal, or was breaking the law, or was resisting arrest... Yes, one or two were totally unjustified, but in those the cop was fired or sent to prison.

I'm not saying killing is right. It happens to whites and hispanics, too... and it's wrong no matter what. But perception in this case is not reality. Look into the case studies.

I'm not a fan of Crowder, but he did a good job of covering this case by case:

http://louderwithcrowder.com/blacklivesmatter-memes-debunked/#.V41b6NIrIps


Interesting video, and he makes an addition critical point, there is no reasonable reason for cops to be injured in course of doing their job, period. Times 100 if said injuries are caused by a struggling arrestee.

Having worked many years in the nuclear industry if we treated nuclear safety like police haters appear to expect the police to treat violent criminals, we would have contamination everywhere and plants breaking down right and left.
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What rhetoric? Oh I forgot, things like blacks are murdering police, most police shootings are justified, black on black murder in very high, islamic radical extremists want to kill Americans, and so it goes. The rhetoric of truth instead of double speak.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
There's golf to play.

Well.....I did just get a new 3 hybrid....
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Speyside wrote:
What rhetoric? Oh I forgot, things like blacks are murdering police, most police shootings are justified, black on black murder in very high, islamic radical extremists want to kill Americans, and so it goes. The rhetoric of truth instead of double speak.


im appalled you bigot!
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tonygraz wrote:
It seems the obvious has gotten by everyone here. How many unjustified killings of blacks in confrontations does it take to piss one or more of them off enough to fight back. You can blame anybody for the problem, but it really is the actions of bad or poorly trained police that is the cause. Suddenly Trump is for law and order , but only playing politics. How many racist comments has he made in the last year ?



I'll bite.

Who are all these unjustified killings of blacks. Since you mention police, I assume you really mean unjustified killings of blacks by police. Please name names.

Certainly you're not referring to Micheal Brown who never had his hands up and who attacked the officer in his car.

Before you name Alton Sterling let's make sure the police officers aren't exonerated. Wouldn't want anyone to jump to conclusions before all the evidence has been considered like in the Micheal Brown case.

I wouldn't mention Freddie Grey either since 3 of 6 officers have been exonerated, 1's trial was declared a mistrial and 2 more await trial.

While you're at it, where is your outrage for whites killed by police? Don't their lives matter?

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Exoneration doesn't mean much except letting the guilty go free. How often do whites get killed by police under questionable circumstances ?
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Yeah... I'm not too interested in weighing in here, but I'd be careful in using the "exonerated" term... I mean, they decided that they didn't even have enough evidence to find Hillary Clinton guilty of anything and look, no one in this forum will stop clamoring for her head. If someone shot her, there'd probably be people cheering that justice was done.

There's always two sides.

And then there's the truth... which is usually completely unrelated to either.
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tonygraz wrote:
Exoneration doesn't mean much except letting the guilty go free. How often do whites get killed by police under questionable circumstances ?


Names. What are the names of these people you speak. You've made a statement, back it up.
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victor809 wrote:
Yeah... I'm not too interested in weighing in here, but I'd be careful in using the "exonerated" term... I mean, they decided that they didn't even have enough evidence to find Hillary Clinton guilty of anything and look, no one in this forum will stop clamoring for her head. If someone shot her, there'd probably be people cheering that justice was done.

There's always two sides.

And then there's the truth... which is usually completely unrelated to either.


So true.

As far as Hillary is concerned, both sides are dug end and neither will budge.

As to exonerated, the average LEO caught up in these situations don't have the AG's personal cell phone number, nor did the AG assist them with past legal matters. Hardly an apples to apples comparison.

In most of the recent police shootings, the DOJ has been involved in the investigations. Had their been an ounce of evidence that the LEO's action were unjust the Divider-in-Cheif would be saying how if he had a son he would look like _________________ (insert victim du jour's name here).

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Everyone is dug in. As log as the argument is mutually exclusive and my side is right there can never be progress.

I know people that still think oj didn't do it. I know people that do think the clintons killed Vince foster and Obama wasn't born here. Truth doesn't interest some.
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Abrignac wrote:
So true.

As far as Hillary is concerned, both sides are dug end and neither will budge.

As to exonerated, the average LEO caught up in these situations don't have the AG's personal cell phone number, nor did the AG assist them with past legal matters. Hardly an apples to apples comparison.

In most of the recent police shootings, the DOJ has been involved in the investigations. Had their been an ounce of evidence that the LEO's action were unjust the Divider-in-Cheif would be saying how if he had a son he would look like _________________ (insert victim du jour's name here).



The use of which would likely result in the least a reprimand if not out fight firing.
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They do get pretty good representation compared to some however.
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And should.
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When it comes to human beings hurting, such as the police and black Americans, there should be no sides. We are all humans, the only race that matters.
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Abrignac wrote:
Names. What are the names of these people you speak. You've made a statement, back it up.


Ok, lets play. Sterling in LA, Grey in Baltimore, whatever the guy's name was in Minnesota, and now the professional health care guy in Miami.

Now, tell me the names of the white people shot unnecessarily by police.
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tonygraz wrote:
Ok, lets play. Sterling in LA, Grey in Baltimore, whatever the guy's name was in Minnesota, and now the professional health care guy in Miami.

Now, tell me the names of the white people shot unnecessarily by police.




LMAO.....thanks for the chuckle
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tonygraz wrote:
Ok, lets play. Sterling in LA, Grey in Baltimore, whatever the guy's name was in Minnesota, and now the professional health care guy in Miami.

Now, tell me the names of the white people shot unnecessarily by police.


Sterling: I've watched that video dozens of times. It's impossible to to tell where his hands are. If he was reaching for his gun it was a good shoot. Bottom line is we really don't know yet.

Grey: He wasn't shot by a LEO.

Castille (the guy in Minnesota): I've watched that video. Unfortunately the person who recorded the video didn't start recording until after he was shot so we really have absolutely no idea what led up to his shooting.

Charles Kinsey (professional healthcare guy in Miami): The only videos I can find have the actual shooting cut out. Again we don't know what actually happened in the moments immediately prior to that shooting.


As far as white people unnecessary shot by police, I'll have to defer because even though there are more whites shot each year by police that blacks it seems their lives don't matter.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
"You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot, I said that this could have been my son," said Obama, who entered the White House briefing room Friday afternoon without notes or a teleprompter. "Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me, 35 years ago."

"And when you think about why, in the African-American community at least, there's a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it's important to recognize that the African-American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn't go away."

“…there are real “problems” and a “deep distrust” that exists “between law enforcement and people of color” around the country. “We need to recognize that the situation in Ferguson speaks to the broader challenges that we face across the nation…”


"We also know that centuries of racial discrimination, of slavery, and subjugation, and Jim Crow; they didn't simply vanish with the law against segregation. They didn't necessarily stop when a Dr. King speech, or when the civil rights act or voting rights act were signed. Race relations have improved dramatically in my lifetime. Those who deny it are dishonoring the struggles that helped us achieve that progress. But we know...

But America, we know that bias remains. We know it, whether you are black, or white, or Hispanic, or Asian, or native American, or of Middle Eastern descent, we have all seen this bigotry in our own lives at some point. We've heard it at times in our own homes. If we're honest, perhaps we've heard prejudice in our own heads and felt it in our own hearts. We know that. And while some suffer far more under racism's burden, some feel to a far greater extent discrimination's stain. Although most of us do our best to guard against it and teach our children better, none of us is entirely innocent. No institution is entirely immune, and that includes our police departments. We know this."


I can do this using one hand on my phone even! He needs to STFU and acknowledge he's the biggest part of the problem on why race relations is at a boiling point.


+1
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^+2
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Tony, why can't you see both sides of this?
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I can - it's the racists that can't see both sides.
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tonygraz wrote:
I can - it's the racists that can't see both sides.


When all else fails it's time to play the race card??

Please elaborate. Who is a racist? Why is said person(s) a racist?
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... Well, probably anyone moving to high altitude because black people get sickle cell anemia....
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