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Democrats Hate Mississippi...
DrafterX Offline
#1 Posted:
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The Mississippi state flag will not fly at the Democratic National Convention.

It was removed from its posts inside and outside the arena, as the Mississippi Democratic delegation and protesters agreed that it was offensive. The flag features the stars and bars symbol of the Confederacy in the upper left corner of the rectangular flag that also has three stripes — one red, one white and one blue.

Vallena Greer, a Democratic delegate from Mississippi, told the Washington Examiner she saw the flag on the Mississippi delegation's post inside the convention hall and immediately took it down.

"I just lost it. I snatched it, I threw it under the seat," Greer said. "I didn't want to see it, nobody else from Mississippi wanted to see that."

Film at 11.... Think
Mattie B Offline
#2 Posted:
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The feeling is mutual!
DrafterX Offline
#3 Posted:
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Laugh
Mattie B Offline
#4 Posted:
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The Sip voted about the flag a few years ago. 2/3 were in favor of keeping it.


The majority has spoken.


You lost.....quit crying!
victor809 Offline
#5 Posted:
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Ummm.... Mattie... Just because they voted to keep it doesn't mean everyone else has to allow it.
Mattie B Offline
#6 Posted:
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So by that logic.


If Trump is elected with 2/3 vote, do 1/3 not have to allow him to be president??????
Mattie B Offline
#7 Posted:
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Oh and "they" didn't vote to keep it.



"WE" voted to keep it!!!
Mattie B Offline
#8 Posted:
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I like to include myself in that decision
victor809 Offline
#9 Posted:
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No. But if America votes trump president, that doesn't mean other countries have to let him visit.

Mississippi can vote to make their flag an HD image of gaping an@l sex with the money shot, that doesn't require that conferences outside of Mississippi have to allow them to fly their flag...
DrafterX Offline
#10 Posted:
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Mellow
Mattie B Offline
#11 Posted:
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For some reason I thought I belonged to


The UNITED States of America.



opelmanta1900 Offline
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victor809 wrote:
No. But if America votes trump president, that doesn't mean other countries have to let him visit.

Mississippi can vote to make their flag an HD image of gaping an@l sex with the money shot, that doesn't require that conferences outside of Mississippi have to allow them to fly their flag...


Why would they steal the Niner's logo?
tailgater Offline
#13 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Ummm.... Mattie... Just because they voted to keep it doesn't mean everyone else has to allow it.


"allow it"?

If the DNC is flying the flags of the 50 UNITED States, then it's not a matter of choosing which ones you like or don't find offensive.

In this instance, the flag was removed by a delegate from da 'Sip. But what if it was some self-righteous yankee from a northern state?

I am ashamed of my America. When did we all get so butt hurt and easily offended? A flag? Really?
Shame on that delegate. And shame on anyone who thinks removing it was the right thing to do. You can be against the symbol while still honoring the good people of the state.

DrafterX Offline
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Democrats can't... Not talking
victor809 Offline
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Ummm. Mattie... The DNC is a convention for a political party.. I'm pretty sure they're not a government organization.
DrafterX Offline
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I bet they're funded by the gubment.... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#17 Posted:
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Yes tail "allow it".. The DNC, just like the RNC is an organization which can run its convention how it sees fit. You know... Because this is America.
JadeRose Offline
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victor809 wrote:
No. But if America votes trump president, that doesn't mean other countries have to let him visit.

Mississippi can vote to make their flag an HD image of gaping an@l sex with the money shot, that doesn't require that conferences outside of Mississippi have to allow them to fly their flag...







Goatsevania?
Gene363 Offline
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Mattie B wrote:
For some reason I thought I belonged to


The UNITED States of America.





+1
Speyside Offline
#20 Posted:
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I see this as a freedom of speach issue. Missisipi has the right to fly their flag. My preference is that they remove the battle flag. Until they do I will never go to Mississippi or buy products from there. I think the DNC was perfectly reasonable removing the flag. If the DNC had themselves raised 49 other flags then they should have raised the 50th, but that is not the case. Mattie sees the flag as part of his history and heritage, I respect that. Many people at the convention see the flag as a symbol of slavery and hate. They should not be subjected to that.

Mattie, I do have a question for you. Would you be OK with someone burning your flag. Flag burning is also a protected right.
opelmanta1900 Offline
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It's the 'sip... they love burning ****!
Bur Offline
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Mattie B wrote:
The feeling is mutual!


100% of Expat Mississippians staying at the "Hotel California" and posting on CBid agree with this post.

Applause
victor809 Offline
#23 Posted:
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How is this a freedom of speech thing?
Speyside Offline
#24 Posted:
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I'm not sure just what it is, to me it's a freedom of something.
Mattie B Offline
#25 Posted:
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Spey,

My personal belief is that flag burning is absolutely disgusting. It really pisses me off. Not because I have more patriotism than the next guy, but for the thousands that have served our country. Many lives have been lost with a deep love for our flag. I see it as an insult to their dedication and honor.
While those men and women secured the right for such acts of stupidity.

Someone wants to burn the Sip flag.......eh, who cares. It can be replaced.

The Sip flag is not Ole Glory.

I don't salute the state flag or pledge allegiance to it.
victor809 Offline
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A state having a confederate flag in its state flag and then having residents complain when people involved in non government events close not to show it is the same as a dumbazz getting a face tattoo and complaining that he can't get a job in customer service
victor809 Offline
#27 Posted:
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Short answer : every decision has consequences. Even for states.
Mattie B Offline
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Victor


The people that supported the MS flag aren't the ones complaining.



It's the minority making a quarrel
"Par for the course" with the Democrat's agenda.

For some reason many democrats like to see the minority get its way, while the majority must endure.
Mattie B Offline
#29 Posted:
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I agree 100% that our flag has caused some negative economic impact.

However, those losses don't outweigh the devastation of not recognizing history.


I have ancestors that faught and died for the confederacy. That doesn't make me a biggot or approve slavery. It's a way to honor my family name.

It's a personal choice. And a belief that runs deep.
victor809 Offline
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Mattie B wrote:
Victor


The people that supported the MS flag aren't the ones complaining.



It's the minority making a quarrel
"Par for the course" with the Democrat's agenda.

For some reason many democrats like to see the minority get its way, while the majority must endure.


It's a minority IN Mississippi.
The DNC wasn't IN Mississippi.
I'm willing to bet that AT the DNC the number of people supporting the MS flag were in the minority.

Typical republican agenda, complain when the minority don't get their way.


victor809 Offline
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Mattie B wrote:
I agree 100% that our flag has caused some negative economic impact.

However, those losses don't outweigh the devastation of not recognizing history.


I have ancestors that faught and died for the confederacy. That doesn't make me a biggot or approve slavery. It's a way to honor my family name.

It's a personal choice. And a belief that runs deep.


I wasn't referring to the negative economic impact.

I'm just saying there are consequences to decisions.

It's fine if a majority of MS voters wanted the flag. That gives them the right to have that as their flag. It doesn't give them the right to force its display by any individual at any event. Government events, sure... but non-government events, to complain when the individual who's right it is to choose whether to display it or not chooses NOT to, is ridiculous.

If you guys voted for the coolest most popular flag everywhere, you'd find people flying it all over the place. Instead you guys chose to stick with something controversial which has very negative connotations for a significant portion of our population. Don't pretend to be shocked when people choose not to fly it.
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Mattie B wrote:
Victor


The people that supported the MS flag aren't the ones complaining.



It's the minority making a quarrel
"Par for the course" with the Democrat's agenda.

For some reason many democrats like to see the minority get its way, while the majority must endure.

Well..............sometimes the majority is a bunch of azzhats that think that their "heritage" of abusing human rights needs to be honored - when it does not.
Mattie B Offline
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I think I've confused you victor.


I don't care that some democrat took down the Sip flag. I think it's a shame to fly the other 49 though.
But folks are going to do what they want to do
My point was, that MS voted to use that flag. Like it or not, that represents MS. Which is a state in our Union.

Personally, I'd be THRILLED if MS didn't participate in the DNC. In fact, I'd be even more proud to say I'm from the SIP.

I don't know how a God fearing person can say they are a democrat. They want to eliminate Capitol punishment but allow abortion. Set the worst free and murder the innocent. Makes no sense to me!!!

And that's just one issue I have.
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Mattie B wrote:


I don't know how a God fearing person can say they are a democrat. They want to eliminate Capitol punishment but allow abortion. Set the worst free and murder the innocent. Makes no sense to me!!!



Mattie, Democrats and Republicans both what what is best and what is right for our country. Of cource they disagree on the particulars.....

If you cannot see the opposite view, you prolly can't really see the issue.

Just sayin'
victor809 Offline
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Mattie B wrote:
I think I've confused you victor.


I don't care that some democrat took down the Sip flag. I think it's a shame to fly the other 49 though.
But folks are going to do what they want to do
My point was, that MS voted to use that flag. Like it or not, that represents MS. Which is a state in our Union.

Personally, I'd be THRILLED if MS didn't participate in the DNC. In fact, I'd be even more proud to say I'm from the SIP.

I don't know how a God fearing person can say they are a democrat. They want to eliminate Capitol punishment but allow abortion. Set the worst free and murder the innocent. Makes no sense to me!!!

And that's just one issue I have.


Well mattie... you've bundled a few things in this post.
First, I didn't say you had a problem with them not using it. I said there's no reason for them to have to use it. Your first statement was "we voted for it, stop cryin'".... I didn't actually see anyone crying about this issue, other than drafter or someone else complaining that it wasn't being flown.... the person taking it down wasn't crying about anything.. they just took it down.

MS is a state in our union, you are correct. And when the federal government has the flags of the states of our union flown somewhere, I fully expect them to fly the battle flag of the Virginia rebel army, embedded in a sideways french flag to represent MS.... because that's what you guys wanted. but none of that is relevant to a DNC event.

You don't know how a god fearing person can say they are a democrat... and I don't know how a god fearing person can tie their shoes. Seriously... an invisible friend. Heck... it'd take a god fearing person the lack of logic to equate lack of capital punishment with "setting someone free". Seriously... how does that even work in your head?
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Speyside wrote:
I see this as a freedom of speach issue. Missisipi has the right to fly their flag. My preference is that they remove the battle flag. Until they do I will never go to Mississippi or buy products from there. I think the DNC was perfectly reasonable removing the flag. If the DNC had themselves raised 49 other flags then they should have raised the 50th, but that is not the case. Mattie sees the flag as part of his history and heritage, I respect that. Many people at the convention see the flag as a symbol of slavery and hate. They should not be subjected to that.

Mattie, I do have a question for you. Would you be OK with someone burning your flag. Flag burning is also a protected right.


You're boycotting Mississippi because of a symbol on their flag?

You've got WAY too much time to worry about things, my friend.

Mattie B Offline
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Victor.

The quit crying part is based on a local response. Something you aren't exposed to. So my opinion wouldn't apply to the DNC


When you refer to God, my Lord and Savior, as "an invisible friend", it shows me that you and I are worlds apart. What you said is highly insulting and not worthy of further conversation on the subject. I will pray for you though.


So again......no representation at the DNC would make me very PROUD!!!
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Spey, if you're not from the Sip then your opinion is as meaningful as the corn kernel in my latest defication.
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Mattie B wrote:
Victor.

The quit crying part is based on a local response. Something you aren't exposed to. So my opinion wouldn't apply to the DNC

fair enough. Because of the thread topic, I assumed you were referring to the DNC.

Quote:

When you refer to God, my Lord and Savior, as "an invisible friend", it shows me that you and I are worlds apart. What you said is highly insulting and not worthy of further conversation on the subject. I will pray for you though.

Good I suppose. I find it horribly insulting that you would even think for a minute that the decisions of any deity fearing person of any religion matters to me at all. It has no purpose in a rational discussion. You're free to your religion, but once you bring into a discussion your opinion on what a religious person would or would not think, I'll give you my opinion on what a religious person thinks.
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Z, I think you have every right to your opinion. Sip people have every right to be proud of their flag. I don't really care what you think of my opinion. Or anyone else really. I think that is what makes America great. Freedom of choice.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Spey, if you're not from the Sip then your opinion is as meaningful as the corn kernel in my latest defication.

Well, I'm not from the Sip but.....





....Oh.
ZRX1200 Offline
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You habing an opinion is America, but if it isn't your state then your opinion is of no consequence.
frankj1 Offline
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maybe the OP should have been God Hates Dems? That can not be possible to a believer.
Step back for a minute Mattie...The God is not a registered Republican!
ZRX1200 Offline
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She's from Arkansas.

Just ask her.
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frankj1 wrote:
maybe the OP should have been God Hates Dems? That can not be possible to a believer.
Step back for a minute Mattie...The God is not a registered Republican!



Hmmmm - NOT from the Sipp, Are you?
Mattie B Offline
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Frank


You know I have a ton of respect for you. What I said would be offensive to you and I sincerely apologize to you for that.


I shouldn't have said it. However, I still believe what I said. I just should t have posted it here.

I just think Gods word outlines some things for me. And those things don't coincide with some democratic political views.

But anyway. This is about a flag
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Mattie B wrote:
Frank


You know I have a ton of respect for you. What I said would be offensive to you and I sincerely apologize to you for that.


I shouldn't have said it. However, I still believe what I said. I just should t have posted it here.

I just think Gods word outlines some things for me. And those things don't coincide with some democratic political views.

But anyway. This is about a flag

I'd still come over for dinner.
Stuff is just the way it is...just remember, we can't do this in Russia.
Mattie B Offline
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Amen Brother!


And I'll lower my State Flag, at the house, when you come over.


frankj1 Offline
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Mattie B wrote:
Amen Brother!


And I'll lower my State Flag, at the house, when you come over.



actually, it doesn't bother me what flag you fly at your home
Mattie B Offline
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I don't have a Sip flag. I've never had one.


I've never owned a Confederate Flag either.





But I did think the General Lee was the coolest car ever!!!
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