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DrafterX Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 1:24 PM EST
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The University of Wisconsin-Stout has decided to take down historical paintings that show interactions between white settlers and First Nations people because of their potentially “harmful” effects on students and viewers. The move was sparked by complaints from a diversity group.

One of the paintings shows French fur traders canoeing down the Red Cedar River with American Indians; the other is of a French fort. Both were painted by artist Cal Peters in 1936 and were recently restored with funding by the Wisconsin Historical Society.

After 80 years of decorating the university’s Harvey Hall, the paintings caught the attention of the school’s Diversity Leadership Team (DLT), which complained to the administration that this depiction of First Nations people reinforced racial stereotypes and promoted “acts of domination and oppression.”

After a series of consultations with students, Chancellor Bob Meyer announced the works would removed from the first and second floors of Harvey Hall, as they risked “having a harmful effect on our students and other viewers.”

If the paintings are displayed, it should be in a “controlled gallery space,” he said, with appropriate “context”for viewers. However, the school says that for now, Peters’ works will most likely stay out of public view.

Film at 11.. Unsure





Thanks Obama..!! Mad
opelmanta1900 Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 1:29 PM EST
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First nations people? Like cave men?
sd72 Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 1:40 PM EST
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No like the swamps of Africa where life began. If you ain't in Africa, you ain't First Nation.
dstieger Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 1:54 PM EST
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http://www.wpr.org/uw-stout-moves-controversial-80-year-old-murals

Well, those two murals are clearly offensive....huh?

This is pure gold:

UW-Stout Chancellor Bob Meyer said that's been an issue for some students.
"There’s a segment of Native American students, that when they look at the art, to them it symbolizes an era of their history where land and possessions were taken away from them, and they feel bad when they look at them," Meyer said.

By and large, I'm a pretty inclusive, do-no-harm kinda guy....but this is seriously wtf?
Brewha Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 1:54 PM EST
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Wow - so the First National Bank must have been around like a really long time...
tailgater Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 1:55 PM EST
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"harmful effect"

And the left cry foul when we tell them they're wussifying America.
tailgater Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 1:56 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Wow - so the First National Bank must have been around like a really long time...


I remember a chick in college. We called her "First National Skank".

Everyone made a deposit.
tailgater Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 1:57 PM EST
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I wonder if she was Indian?
Brewha Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 1:57 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I remember a chick in college. We called her "First National Skank".

Everyone made a deposit.



LOL




Soooo.... Drafter saw her boobs?
Buckwheat Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 1:59 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
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Thanks Obama..!! Mad


WTF does this have to do with Obama? horse Frying pan
jjanecka Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 2:03 PM EST
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Everything
Buckwheat Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 2:08 PM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
Everything


Care to elaborate? With specifics? fog
Speyside Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 2:11 PM EST
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So when are we giving back Manhattan?
DrafterX Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 2:19 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
WTF does this have to do with Obama? horse Frying pan



Laugh
dstieger Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 2:25 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
The University of Wisconsin-Stout has decided to take down historical paintings that show interactions between white settlers and First Nations people because of their potentially “harmful” effects on students and viewers. The move was sparked by complaints from a diversity group.

One of the paintings shows French fur traders canoeing down the Red Cedar River with American Indians; the other is of a French fort. Both were painted by artist Cal Peters in 1936 and were recently restored with funding by the Wisconsin Historical Society.

After 80 years of decorating the university’s Harvey Hall, the paintings caught the attention of the school’s Diversity Leadership Team (DLT), which complained to the administration that this depiction of First Nations people reinforced racial stereotypes and promoted “acts of domination and oppression.”

After a series of consultations with students, Chancellor Bob Meyer announced the works would removed from the first and second floors of Harvey Hall, as they risked “having a harmful effect on our students and other viewers.”

If the paintings are displayed, it should be in a “controlled gallery space,” he said, with appropriate “context”for viewers. However, the school says that for now, Peters’ works will most likely stay out of public view.

Film at 11.. Unsure





Thanks Obama..!! Mad



Just a thought.....but maybe the NFL should consider this approach....if they'd keep the Redskins out of public view, there'd be a lot fewer offended people...and a lot fewer disappointed Skins fans, as well
Mr. Jones Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 2:27 PM EST
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If that painting was an "official W.P.A."
Authorized project during the depression
They can't destroy it without a lot of hassles and red tape and legal battles.
Plus how the F#CK do you move a wall mural??
Big dollars being spent because "one MILLENIAL QUASI-Nazi brownshirt with a chip on their shoulder diversity team leader" on a workstudy free stipend gets a stick up their ARSE???

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS AT IT'S DUMBEST AND
SPENDING MONEY FOR NOTHING.
Brewha Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 2:40 PM EST
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I'll have to check with Z, but I think an "Indian Canoe" is like a "Rusty Trombone".
sd72 Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 2:54 PM EST
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Manhattan was a square deal. 17 beads, a bottle of fire water, and 4 pelts. It ain't going back
opelmanta1900 Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 3:05 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I remember a chick in college. We called her "First National Skank".

Everyone made a deposit.




Racist! Wait, no, Sexist!
opelmanta1900 Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 3:06 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I wonder if she was Indian?




Racist!
tamapatom Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 4:10 PM EST
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French Fur Traders? Give me a break ... this was an enterprise period of prosperity for Indians if anyone cares to check it out. A new market for a product easily acquired and sold. If it was a painting of the US Army slaughtering a village, that would be clearly offensive.
frankj1 Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 7:15 PM EST
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My people refer to themselves as "members of the tribe". Different tribes for sure than the ones in this thread.

But speaking just for me, as a member of the tribe that Nazis (and others before and since) tried to wipe out, I like having historical reminders. Never Again, can ya dig it?
teedubbya Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 7:25 PM EST
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Frank is a Cleveland fan?
frankj1 Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 7:46 PM EST
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don't get me started on that red faced grinning mascot again!!
tailgater Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2016, 10:18 PM EST
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he's not grinning.
He's drunk.
frankj1 Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 7:30 AM EST
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such a tribute!
TMCTLT Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 7:44 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Care to elaborate? With specifics? fog




Julian, I think in general he absolutely HAS done everything in his power to whip up social unrest in regards to race / skin color and gender ( whatever floats your boat ) issues. His motto since taking office......Feelin offended??? I'll send my DOJ out to get justice for you!!!! He has in short ( as our Leader....lmao ) made it not only OKAY to get offended over ANYTHING.....but we'll create more bills and laws to " protect the offended " In short he gets blamed for Everything because he sticks his ( the White Houses ) nose into EVERYTHING, many times where it just doesn't belong.

But then I guess that's really what a Community Organizer does.....isn't it?


To the OP though......this would be hilarious.....if it were not true.
DrafterX Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 7:57 AM EST
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Yep.... was just pointing out the endless politically correctness or coddling of our youth these days... Are these kids just looking to accomplish something..?? Do they want to look back and say 'I made them do this'..?? I think there are other ways to be heard...
Gene363 Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 10:36 AM EST
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Not satisfied with the pussification of the average citizen, the progressives set about the pussification of Native Americans.
DrafterX Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 10:41 AM EST
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just a couple of them.... Most of us enjoy the art and create alot of it ourselves... Mellow
Buckwheat Offline
#31 Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2016, 11:30 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Julian, I think in general he absolutely HAS done everything in his power to whip up social unrest in regards to race / skin color and gender ( whatever floats your boat ) issues. His motto since taking office......Feelin offended??? I'll send my DOJ out to get justice for you!!!! He has in short ( as our Leader....lmao ) made it not only OKAY to get offended over ANYTHING.....but we'll create more bills and laws to " protect the offended " In short he gets blamed for Everything because he sticks his ( the White Houses ) nose into EVERYTHING, many times where it just doesn't belong.

But then I guess that's really what a Community Organizer does.....isn't it?


To the OP though......this would be hilarious.....if it were not true.


I don't entirely disagree with you. I just see this as a case of an a college administrator bowing down to a group of college students that didn't involve anyone from the federal government.

I personally don't get offended by much. I'm pretty sure that my bar is higher (or lower depending on your perspective) than most peoples. fog
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