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2017 - 1st Annual Deep Sea Fishing Herf!
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MACS Offline
#301 Posted: Sat, May 13 2017, 7:53 PM EST
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There's an $80 cleaning fee in the total price already.
Abrignac Offline
#302 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 2:48 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
There's an $80 cleaning fee in the total price already.


Those bassards....

ram27bat
MACS Offline
#303 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 3:17 PM EST
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Still... $130 each for 2 nights isn't bad, really. That's $65 a night, and it comes with all the amenities of being home. Fridge, stove, pots, pans, dishes, silverware, cups... we can make fish tacos when we get back from fishing. fog

We'll stop by mecca before we leave to get Al... BevMo. We can get our favorite libations.
delta1 Offline
#304 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 9:36 PM EST
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Applause Applause Applause
delta1 Offline
#305 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 9:39 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
There's an $80 cleaning fee in the total price already.


...shoot...we may as well fire up in the backyard...just have to carry out the nubs and ashes...
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#306 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 9:45 PM EST
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I've stayed places with no smoking policies indoors (understandable) and on the grounds. I've asked owners/managers if outdoors might be acceptable if I am respectful, clean up, make sure others are not in position to be offended by drifting smoke, etc. Always got a positive response.

it's just kind of like automatic words that spew out on documents, and quite often the humans really do get it.
DrafterX Offline
#307 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 9:54 PM EST
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Unless da neighbors complain I can't see how it would be an issue. .. smacking around the nark neighbors is always an option. .. Mellow
Abrignac Offline
#308 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 9:57 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Still... $130 each for 2 nights isn't bad, really. That's $65 a night, and it comes with all the amenities of being home. Fridge, stove, pots, pans, dishes, silverware, cups... we can make fish tacos when we get back from fishing. fog

We'll stop by mecca before we leave to get Al... BevMo. We can get our favorite libations.


I had way too many libations today.
MACS Offline
#309 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 10:11 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
I had way too many libations today.



Rest up, bitch.

Rental agreement excerpt: E. No Smoking. No smoking is permitted at the Property (including porches, decks or outdoor areas) at any time.

I'd be all for smoking outside if it was someone else's CC on file.
Abrignac Offline
#310 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 10:16 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Rest up, bitch.


The wife and I took a nap. I'm good to go.

We need to think about what we are going to eat Saturday night. I'm assuming we'll have tacos Sunday.
Abrignac Offline
#311 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 10:18 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Rest up, bitch.

Rental agreement excerpt: E. No Smoking. No smoking is permitted at the Property (including porches, decks or outdoor areas) at any time.

I'd be all for smoking outside if it was someone else's CC on file.


Don't blame you. We won't fire up until after you pass out.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#312 Posted: Mon, May 15 2017, 11:13 AM EST
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very excited for this trip... weather should be great... the boat ride out will probably be a bit chilly and the ride back a bit windy, but other than that it's looking like tshirt and board shorts weather out there...
MACS Offline
#313 Posted: Mon, May 15 2017, 11:25 AM EST
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I'm friggin' stoked!!
opelmanta1900 Offline
#314 Posted: Mon, May 15 2017, 11:37 AM EST
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Powder coated a few 10 oz diamond jigs... bucktailed a handful of teaser hooks... doing a few 6 and 8 oz jigheads right now...

Do you use a swivel macs?
MACS Offline
#315 Posted: Mon, May 15 2017, 11:42 AM EST
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Not usually. I'm not all that experienced fishing for rock fish, really. I've just been using rock cod rigs, and I tie them right to the braid.

I've been watching 'how to' videos, and I plan on grabbing some buck tail jigs and some soft plastics for lingcod. I have rock cod rigs for cut squid. I have frozen squid... should I bring it?

Edit: I need to grab a few heavier weights, too. Only have one 8 oz. Need a couple more 8's and some 10's.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#316 Posted: Mon, May 15 2017, 11:59 AM EST
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You can bring the squid... they may or may not have any at the landing... I'll try and buy some squid and whole mackerel if i can find some...

I'd personally skip the bucktail jigs... 8+ oz jig heads for soft plastic swim baits are good but less consistent than 8+ oz jigs...

Rock cod rigs - like the farallon feathers - are perfect, but I'd go 10 to 16 oz on the weight to avoid tangling up... you can buy those at the landing usually too...

I asked about the swivels because I'm low and have a hard time finding the big ones around here... i use swivels but plenty of experienced guys don't... it's a preference thing... it is one more thing to go wrong been you and the fish and for that reason i never talk anyone in to using one... but i like them...

not sure if you've stumbled on any dan Hernandez videos... i love what he's done for fishing in southern California, love what he does for the kids... he's terrible at rock cod fishing... he uses some of the worst set ups I've seen...
delta1 Offline
#317 Posted: Mon, May 15 2017, 5:44 PM EST
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Most of the SoCal charter boats provide bait in two forms: frozen squid, which they'll cut into half inch wide strips, and usually live fish, like sardines or anchovies. If someone catches a mackerel or sand dab they'll usually put it into the live bait tank. I've caught a couple of lings with live sand dabs, never with a mackerel. Some people have had luck using chunks of mackerel as bait...

...always game to watch others for different techniques and lures and gear...
delta1 Offline
#318 Posted: Mon, May 15 2017, 5:51 PM EST
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I'll bring extra rods and reels and tackle for Ant to use (if he's not bringing some) so he doesn't have to spend any money to rent any gear...


I have plenty of 10, 12 and 16 oz weights MACS...

Gonna have to check my gear and re-tie some fresh topshot/flouro leader...

...feel like a kid again, waiting impatiently for the week-end when we were finally gonna go to Disneyland...
Abrignac Offline
#319 Posted: Mon, May 15 2017, 5:54 PM EST
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Terminal tackle isn't included?
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#320 Posted: Mon, May 15 2017, 5:55 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I'll bring extra rods and reels and tackle for Ant to use (if he's not bringing some) so he doesn't have to spend any money to rent any gear...


I have plenty of 10, 12 and 16 oz weights MACS...

Gonna have to check my gear and re-tie some fresh topshot/flouro leader...

...feel like a kid again, waiting impatiently for the week-end when we were finally gonna go to Disneyland...


Thanks Al. I wasn't planning to. AA charges $35 per checked bag. Besides, I wouldn't want to trust them with rods & reels.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#321 Posted: Mon, May 15 2017, 6:56 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:


...feel like a kid again, waiting impatiently for the week-end when we were finally gonna go to Disneyland...


Exactly how I feel!
MACS Offline
#322 Posted: Mon, May 15 2017, 7:12 PM EST
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Me, too... and as I said, I have 4 rods/reels for ocean fishing. Bringing all 4, so we'll be set.

I heard sand dabs are like candy to a lingcod... gonna see if I can find a lure that looks like one.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#323 Posted: Mon, May 15 2017, 7:37 PM EST
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Almost Alive makes a soft plastic flounder... they used to call it the sand dab i think... it's about the closest I've seen...
Abrignac Offline
#324 Posted: Tue, May 16 2017, 11:34 AM EST
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Well my trip to Bass Pro was a bust. Hoping I'll have better luck at BevMo or whatever it's called.

Two days and a wake up until the Cajun invades SoCal.
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#325 Posted: Tue, May 16 2017, 12:04 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Well my trip to Bass Pro was a bust. Hoping I'll have better luck at BevMo or whatever it's called.

Two days and a wake up until the Cajun invades SoCal.


Oh, you'll have better luck at BevMo... that's the liquor store. Turner's Outdoors is the tackle shop.
Abrignac Offline
#326 Posted: Tue, May 16 2017, 12:39 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Oh, you'll have better luck at BevMo... that's the liquor store.


I'm already thirsty.
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#327 Posted: Tue, May 16 2017, 12:46 PM EST
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No fish going to be caught on this trip.


Herfing
Abrignac Offline
#328 Posted: Tue, May 16 2017, 1:25 PM EST
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Regardles, I can assure you we will all be bragging about we limited out on monsters even if we only catch a sunburn.
MACS Offline
#329 Posted: Tue, May 16 2017, 1:44 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Regardles, I can assure you we will all be bragging about we limited out on monsters even if we only catch a sunburn.


Pictures will be taken... they just might not get posted.
Abrignac Offline
#330 Posted: Tue, May 16 2017, 7:37 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Pictures will be taken... they just might not get posted.


Yep, besides who said they have to be pictures of fish we caught. Hell, I know someone who has a cousin that dating a person whose BIL is married to a gal whose co-worker is cheating with the spouse of a relative of the father of a kid in love with a teenager that is proficient with Photoshop.
Abrignac Offline
#331 Posted: Wed, May 17 2017, 11:56 AM EST
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Getting' closa
MACS Offline
#332 Posted: Wed, May 17 2017, 4:21 PM EST
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SUN MAY 21 - Sunny - 78°/53° Wind - NW 10 mph

Bazinga.
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#333 Posted: Wed, May 17 2017, 4:32 PM EST
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Charter doesn't include rod and tackle?!!

Weird. Ours out of Brookings all do.....and they do let you bring your own if so inclined. Those are some hefty weights, I think the bigger jig heads here are 3 ounces.
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#334 Posted: Wed, May 17 2017, 4:42 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Charter doesn't include rod and tackle?!!

Weird. Ours out of Brookings all do.....and they do let you bring your own if so inclined. Those are some hefty weights, I think the bigger jig heads here are 3 ounces.



I hear there are lots of girlie boys in Oregon. No wonder the weights top out at 3 ozs.
MACS Offline
#335 Posted: Wed, May 17 2017, 5:34 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Charter doesn't include rod and tackle?!!

Weird. Ours out of Brookings all do.....and they do let you bring your own if so inclined. Those are some hefty weights, I think the bigger jig heads here are 3 ounces.


The charter I went on in Florida included tackle and fish cleaning. $85

In San Diego a 12 hour charter is $145 and does not include tackle OR fish cleaning. And the fishing is better in Florida.
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#336 Posted: Wed, May 17 2017, 8:31 PM EST
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never have seen free gear on the rock cod trips... not unusual to use a pound of lead and not unusual to leave 3 or 4 at the bottom of the ocean... so that cost could be part of it... not sure, but if I had to guess, california taxes and fuel costs probably play a part too...

cost of the trip pays for the fuel, the slip cost, and the marina fees, and puts something in the captains pocket... deckhands make all their money off selling beer, food, tackle, and cleaning fish...
Abrignac Offline
#337 Posted: Thu, May 18 2017, 10:49 AM EST
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Hey MACS I'm on the last link.
MACS Offline
#338 Posted: Thu, May 18 2017, 10:56 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Hey MACS I'm on the last link.


Say what? Last link?
delta1 Offline
#339 Posted: Thu, May 18 2017, 10:57 AM EST
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My saltwater fishing tackle box weighs about 20lbs...
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#340 Posted: Thu, May 18 2017, 11:17 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
My saltwater fishing tackle box weighs about 20lbs...



Think
Is that like code for somethin..?? Huh
Abrignac Offline
#341 Posted: Thu, May 18 2017, 11:26 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
Say what? Last link?


Short timer's chain. One more day & a wake up.

Frickin' Sea Pups.....
MACS Offline
#342 Posted: Thu, May 18 2017, 11:40 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Short timer's chain. One more day & a wake up.

Frickin' Sea Pups.....


Fuggin' puddle pirate calling a Sailor a sea pup... hilarious.

Text or e-mail me your flight info.
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#343 Posted: Thu, May 18 2017, 12:21 PM EST
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It's a 3 hour boat ride to our fishing grounds... weather report says when we start fishing at 9 o'clock, 75 degrees and 3 foot waves... I'm being a bit cocky, but I've got a feeling we'll be limited out by 1, back in port by 4...
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#344 Posted: Thu, May 18 2017, 12:30 PM EST
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ThumpUp
MACS Offline
#345 Posted: Thu, May 18 2017, 1:00 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
It's a 3 hour boat ride to our fishing grounds... weather report says when we start fishing at 9 o'clock, 75 degrees and 3 foot waves... I'm being a bit cocky, but I've got a feeling we'll be limited out by 1, back in port by 4... and a little sideways by 6...


FIFY
delta1 Offline
#346 Posted: Thu, May 18 2017, 1:03 PM EST
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Guess I'll stay upright...someone has to fix the fish tacos...
MACS Offline
#347 Posted: Thu, May 18 2017, 1:10 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Guess I'll stay upright...someone has to fix the fish tacos...


Hey, we did a passable job in Ventura and we were indulging then. :)
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#348 Posted: Thu, May 18 2017, 1:10 PM EST
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Fish tacos!

Do we want to try this for Sunday evening? If so, I'll prep a couple of salsa's, shred some cabbage, cut some lemons, and pick up some flour tortillas... I'd rather do all that work Saturday before i leave than try to do it after fishing...
MACS Offline
#349 Posted: Thu, May 18 2017, 1:11 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Fish tacos!

Do we want to try this for Sunday evening? If so, I'll prep a couple of salsa's, shred some cabbage, cut some lemons, and pick up some flour tortillas... I'd rather do all that work Saturday before i leave than try to do it after fishing...


BRILLIANT!!!
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#350 Posted: Thu, May 18 2017, 1:15 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Guess I'll stay upright...someone has to fix the fish tacos...

You read my mind... i was writing my post while you posted this I guess....

I don't drink, so no worries in terms of having someone upright... the bigger challenge will be exhaustion... I've taken several guys out on these trips and most guys are too exhausted to finish the day, let alone make a fish taco dinner once back on land...
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