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Wonder how Crazy Nancy's constituants feel about her....
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TMCTLT Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Jul 2 2017, 12:23 PM EST
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And their F'd up court system / judges giving up $190K in tax payer dollars to an ILLEGAL INVADER from El Salvador? Because she has created a riff between law enforcement ( who are doing their appointed duties ) but under her " Sanctuary city policies " LEO is prohibited from working with ICE and other Federal immigration agencies to RID their state of these law breakers...so this SOB has sued and won!!!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/30/san-francisco-to-pay-190g-to-undocumented-immigrant-over-sanctuary-law-violation-lawyer-says.html
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#2 Posted: Sun, Jul 2 2017, 1:09 PM EST
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They of course love her, they voted for her did they not and they deserve what they get. I hope all 3 million illegal voters sue and bankrupt that state, PERIOD! And when they ask for a Federal bailout, F'em.
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#3 Posted: Sun, Jul 2 2017, 1:21 PM EST
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I wish SCOTUS would step in. The whole concept of sanctuary city seems unconstitutional to me. This is hard to believe.
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#4 Posted: Sun, Jul 2 2017, 2:46 PM EST
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I agree, there's no reason why the United States needs to protect and defend illegal immigrants as if they were citizen status.
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#5 Posted: Sun, Jul 2 2017, 3:27 PM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
I agree, there's no reason why the United States needs to protect and defend illegal immigrants as if they were better than citizen status.

FIFY........some illegal immigrants get better benefits than some senior citizens, who have paid more into the system than the illegals ever will.....Brick wall Brick wall
gummy jones Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Jul 2 2017, 3:29 PM EST
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We love creating new protected classes
gummy jones Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Jul 2 2017, 3:30 PM EST
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Almost as much as we love using other people's money to show our charity and compassion
victor809 Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Jul 2 2017, 3:58 PM EST
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Interesting how some people are so against state rights once it's their pet peeve.
TMCTLT Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Jul 2 2017, 10:14 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Interesting how some people are so against state rights once it's their pet peeve.



Immigration doesn't fall under states rights...but then you already knew that.
victor809 Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Jul 3 2017, 1:11 AM EST
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Do you believe that there is a list of what is "state rights" and what isn't. Or do you just want to draw a random line where you feel like it?
TMCTLT Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Jul 3 2017, 5:06 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Do you believe that there is a list of what is "state rights" and what isn't. Or do you just want to draw a random line where you feel like it?



NOT A STATES RIGHTS ISSUE....PERIOD. NEVER HAS BEEN this IS a Tenth Amendment issue but you have a group of public servants who ROUTINELY ignore what their constituency want and do as they see fit....with no apparent retribution like oh I dunno NOT GETTING REELECTED
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#12 Posted: Mon, Jul 3 2017, 9:44 AM EST
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Immigration ought to fall under states rights... We got all these damn Californians, Yankees and Chicago Socialists coming to Texas because no other state in this country how to run their shït properly.
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#13 Posted: Mon, Jul 3 2017, 10:01 AM EST
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Follow the dam law. It exists and it is plain as day, there is no grey area.
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#14 Posted: Mon, Jul 3 2017, 11:05 AM EST
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+1
victor809 Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Jul 3 2017, 11:06 AM EST
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If a state doesn't want federal agents running around that should be their decision as well... should be it?
Speyside Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Jul 3 2017, 12:32 PM EST
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Federal law usually takes precedence over state law, so no it should not be the states descision.
TMCTLT Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Jul 3 2017, 1:33 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
If a state doesn't want federal agents running around that should be their decision as well... should be it?



We're suppose to be the " United States " Victor.....not the Divided States. If a city or cities within a state doesn't want to followlaws that have been on the books for FOREVER and MAKE SENSE.....they should cut off ALL federal funding.
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#18 Posted: Mon, Jul 3 2017, 3:20 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Interesting how some people are so against state rights once it's their pet peeve.


When a state ignores federal laws I don't want my federal tax dollars going into that state.

If they choose to forego the aforementioned federal tax dollars, then they can do as the choose.
but it kinda disrupts the whole "united" thingy that we're supposed to embrace.

This isn't about a pet peeve.

If they don't like the federal law then they need to address that separately. They can't simply choose to disregard it.
tailgater Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Jul 3 2017, 3:22 PM EST
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Or I could have just read post 17 and typed "agree" with a smiley face giving a thumbs up.

Thanks Paul.
TMCTLT Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Jul 3 2017, 3:44 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Or I could have just read post 17 and typed "agree" with a smiley face giving a thumbs up.

Thanks Paul.



LOL Joe....Beer
TMCTLT Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 8:50 AM EST
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Well with Cali's position on OPEN BORDERS and SANCTUARY CITIES......this stat shouldn't surprise anyone


http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/24/in-2014-latinos-will-surpass-whites-as-largest-racialethnic-group-in-california/
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#22 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 9:52 AM EST
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Why does that matter?
TMCTLT Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 10:09 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Why does that matter?



You'll see, once they fill your legislature with them....Moonbeam and Nancy are selling out all other Californians for the votes of a bunch of Illegal Invaders and robbing the rest of the country of Federal tax dollars to support the sons of bitches. But hey @ least your getting your salad on the cheap right????
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#24 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 10:23 AM EST
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ya.. but there's putting dead frogs in the bags of salad... Mad
victor809 Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 11:08 AM EST
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You're making a large leap from an ethnic group being a majority and them all being illegal immigrants.

But you have a history of not understanding the difference.

And again... illegal immigrants don't vote ... and they sure as hell aren't going to be in the legislature.

Dude... get a grip
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#26 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 11:18 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Well with Cali's position on OPEN BORDERS and SANCTUARY CITIES......this stat shouldn't surprise anyone


http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/24/in-2014-latinos-will-surpass-whites-as-largest-racialethnic-group-in-california/


Hispanics are the plurality here in CA, already... did you notice the stats were from 2014?
TMCTLT Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 11:20 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You're making a large leap from an ethnic group being a majority and them all being illegal immigrants.

But you have a history of not understanding the difference.

And again... illegal immigrants don't vote ... and they sure as hell aren't going to be in the legislature.

Dude... get a grip





WOW...you really do prefer to live w your head in the sand while remaining willfully ignorant.

lol.....tell that to the people of Hamtrack, MI. that now enjoys it's first all Muslim city council.
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#28 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 11:23 AM EST
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.... stories of illegal immigrants voting have been debunked by people with a greater understanding of statistics and math than you. If you continue to cling to them then you are the one with his head in the sand.

And this has nothing to do with a Muslim city council. Are any of them illegal? If their all citizens then what kind of problem could you possibly have with that?
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#29 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 11:28 AM EST
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So it's the old ' my peoples know more than you peoples' defense ehh.... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 11:30 AM EST
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... when one group uses math to prove they are correct it isn't a debate.
TMCTLT Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 11:35 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
.... stories of illegal immigrants voting have been debunked by people with a greater need for CHEAP ILLEGAL LABOR and VOTES!!! FIFY

And this has nothing to do with a Muslim city council. Are any of them illegal? If they're all citizens then what kind of problem could you possibly have with that?




No but these " people of color " have shown time and again that they do NOT wish to assimilate and enjoy the freedoms of living in the US. but change the politics and demographics of our country to exactly what they left behind in their native country. Your the one with your head in the sand. Like I said.....enjoy your cheap salads while you and everyone else subsidize the pickers.
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#32 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 11:35 AM EST
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Gazinta recitals are impressive... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 11:46 AM EST
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So who are you complaining about now?
Legal Latin Americans?
Illegal Latin americans?
Legal Muslim americans?

You're mixing yourself up in some sort of crazy meandering tirade of hate.
TMCTLT Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 11:49 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
So who are you complaining about now?
Legal Latin Americans?
Illegal Latin americans?
Legal Muslim americans?

You're mixing yourself up in some sort of crazy meandering tirade of hate.



No just pointing out the obvious that's taking place in front of our noses....but you can use hyperbole to deflect, that's not surprising @ all....you usually do.
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#35 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 11:52 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
WOW...you really do prefer to live w your head in the sand while remaining willfully ignorant.

lol.....tell that to the people of Hamtrack, MI. that now enjoys it's first all Muslim city council.


Do you also have a problem with Salt Lake City being a majority Mormon city?

But back on topic. I think there is flawed logic in sanctuary cities. fog
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#36 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 11:53 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
So who are you complaining about now?
Legal Latin Americans? Who's who? Do you know?
Illegal Latin americans? Again...who's who? I mean were NOT allowed to ask!!!!
Legal Muslim americans? Are these the ones Barry trucked around through the night a while back or???? I mean it's been a free for all the past eight years.

You're mixing yourself up in some sort of crazy meandering tirade of hate. You forgot misogynist and racist.
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#37 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 11:57 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Do you also have a problem with Salt Lake City being a majority Mormon city?

But back on topic. I think there is flawed logic in sanctuary cities. fog



Aren't you referring to Religious vs ethnic majorities? And the answer is NO....to my knowledge the Mormons are not currently using their religion to uphold the slaughter of others who do not agree with their brand of Religion.
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#38 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 12:00 PM EST
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Well, they do have their own mafia and stuff... Mellow
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#39 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 12:42 PM EST
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If they are voting, then you're pretty sure they are legal.
So if you are worried about how they will vote you're against legal Latin immigrants.

This isn't that hard to sort out.

If they're on a city council then you're pretty sure they're legal so if you're against an ethnic or religious group being on a city council then you are against legal immigrants from that group.


And seeing as I could go out and be Muslim tomorrow that's a religion which should be afforded all the protections every other dumb religion has in the United states.
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#40 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 12:56 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Aren't you referring to Religious vs ethnic majorities? And the answer is NO....to my knowledge the Mormons are not currently using their religion to uphold the slaughter of others who do not agree with their brand of Religion.


So how do you feel about Suzy Creamcheese? fog
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#41 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 1:27 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
If they are voting, then you're pretty sure they are legal. No, but you obviously are
So if you are worried about how they will vote you're against legal Latin immigrants. They will vote to leave our borders open to them and anyything Pro Latino...you and I know it.

This isn't that hard to sort out. No....no itisn't.

If they're on a city council then you're pretty sure they're legal so if you're against an ethnic or religious group being on a city council then you are against legal immigrants from that group. You either misunderstood or purposely ignored my claim...we're talking FULL CITY COUNCIL...not ONE or two members. Tell me do you think they're taking " all citizenry " into consideration when addressing varying issues? I DON'T fog


And seeing as I could go out and be Muslim tomorrow that's a religion which should be afforded all the protections every other dumb religion has in the United states.
Says the good little Atheist
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#42 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 1:27 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
So how do you feel about Suzy Creamcheese? fog




I dunno.....I never ate her. fog
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#43 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 1:40 PM EST
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... your statement is ridiculous.

1 - there is no evidence of illegals voting which has not been disprove.

2 -you don't like legal Latin immigrants because you're sure they'll vote to keep our borders open? They're citizens... that's their right. Do you want legal Latin immigrants to be some second class unable to vote for things you don't like?

3 -one or two members or a full city council... who cares? If they are legal citizens what does it matter? Again why are you so afraid of the nation being made up of people who aren't the same as you?

4 - at least as an atheist I'm arguing for equal treatment of all religions. That's more American than what appears to be your stance.
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#44 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 1:52 PM EST
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crazy nancy has a basket of crazy constituents so they like her just fine
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#45 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 2:14 PM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
crazy nancy has a basket of crazy constituents so they like her just fine



Yupper....^^^^ there's one NOW in #43
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#46 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 2:17 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
... your statement is ridiculous.

1 - there is no evidence of illegals voting which has not been disprove.





prove that... Not talking
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#47 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 2:29 PM EST
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Prove a negative? That sounds like someone doesn't understand math.
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#48 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 2:31 PM EST
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all you gotta do is prove no illegal alien has ever got in trouble for voting illegally... Mellow
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#49 Posted: Wed, Jul 5 2017, 2:32 PM EST
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So I'm crazy because I'm not going to go into a frothing incoherent rant about nonspecifically legal or illegal Mexicans or muslims...
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you also have to prove drafter has never beaten his wife
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