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Project Cassandra, Obama Administrations Aided Hezbollah Terror Funding
Gene363 Offline
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The Obama administration allowed the Lebanese terror organization Hezbollah to traffic drugs and launder money, in some cases within the U.S., to secure the July 2015 nuclear deal with Iran.

The Obama team deliberately derailed a law enforcement investigation, dubbed Project Cassandra, launched in 2008 by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration to target Iranian-backed Hezbollah’s criminal network.

Some 30 U.S. and foreign security agencies were involved in the undercover operation to map Hezbollah’s drug smuggling operations. The investigation tracked Hezbollah-controlled shipments of cocaine from Latin America to West Africa, and through Europe, the Middle East, and the U.S.

As the operation managed to infiltrate the highest levels of the terror group’s hierarchy, the Obama administration created obstacles to hinder the investigation.

“This was a policy decision, it was a systematic decision,” David Asher, a veteran illicit finance expert who helped establish and run Project Cassandra, told Politico. “They serially ripped apart this entire effort that was very well supported and resourced, and it was done from the top down.”

The Obama administration’s move was an effort to “defang, defund and undermine the investigations that were involving Iran and Hezbollah,” Asher said.

A three part story published in Politico details a secret backstory of how Obama let Hezbollah off the hook as an ambitious U.S. task force targeting Hezbollah's billion-dollar criminal enterprise ran headlong into the White House's desire for a nuclear deal with Iran.


The entire article is here: https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/

DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted:
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Those Bassards..!! Mad
ZRX1200 Offline
#3 Posted:
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Politico is a right wing nUT job outlet.
Phil222 Offline
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Was this drug-ring run out of a pizza parlor or am I mixing up my stories? Cool
tailgater Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Politico is a right wing nUT job outlet.


Not fair and balanced?

Mr. Jones Offline
#6 Posted:
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I "might" believe it more...

If it was discovered and reported by "WIRE" MAGAZINE
instead.
bgz Offline
#7 Posted:
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I might have believed it if it was published by "High Times".
delta1 Offline
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Hezbollah had shed some of its terroristic practices by this time, behaving more and more as a ruling party in Iran...our history is replete with shady dealings with shady characters in effort to achieve larger objectives, such as preventing a dangerous nation from acquiring nuclear weapons.


Elderly Iranians will never forgive us for propping up the Shah to secure an abundant supply of oil, back in the 50's to 70's...
teedubbya Offline
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I’d still like to learn more about this. Wrong is wrong. Can’t wait to watch it develop.
Phil222 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
our history is replete with shady dealings with shady characters in effort to achieve larger objectives,

+1

I only wish this deal was the worst thing Obama had done in his tenure. Probably not even top 10.
cacman Offline
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So Obama was following Reagan's & Clinton's "Dark Alliance" playbook on how to import cocaine into the US to fund an illegal war???

Let's ask Gary Webb. Oh that's right, he committed suicide with a double-tap to the head.
https://www.narconews.com/darkalliance/drugs/index.htm
Burner02 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
Hezbollah had shed some of its terroristic practices by this time, behaving more and more as a ruling party in Iran...our history is replete with shady dealings with shady characters in effort to achieve larger objectives, such as preventing a dangerous nation from acquiring nuclear weapons.


Elderly Iranians will never forgive us for propping up the Shah to secure an abundant supply of oil, back in the 50's to 70's...



So you are saying the above take justifies helping Iran nuke up and to continue to be the number one exporter of international terrorism.
Kawaksback Offline
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I thought Obama was Hezbollah? No?
opelmanta1900 Offline
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Lock him up! Lock him up!
Burner02 Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Lock him up! Lock him up!



Whom you got in mind, Obama, Trump, Sharpton, Comey, McCabe, Strzok or maybe even Jefferson Davis.

You need to be more specific in order whip up the appropriate support and hate level.




jjanecka Offline
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Local congressman already coming out and decrying this issue. All I gotta say is that I hope this sinks the Dems.
teedubbya Offline
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jjanecka wrote:
Local congressman already coming out and decrying this issue. All I gotta say is that I hope this sinks the Dems.



If it's true I do too. Regardless of party we should. It's just too often people wish these things based on party.
delta1 Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
So you are saying the above take justifies helping Iran nuke up and to continue to be the number one exporter of international terrorism.


No, not at all. John Brennan was the architect of this plan. He is a top US intelligence official who was instrumental in advising the Bush Administration in the run-up to and the execution of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. He was highly regarded and respected by cons then.

Obama trusted him enough to appoint him as his CIA chief. Brennan's priority was to diminish and PREVENT Iran from achieving nuclear weapons, and this deal was in furtherance of that goal. Brennan identified Hezbollah as a key power in the government of Iran and de-nuclearization of that country required dealing with them.

Despite some media reports and Trumps' continued attacks, that Iranian nuclear deal/sanctions are working in keeping them from making progress towards a nuclear weapon. There has been on-going and frequent in-person monitoring by a multi-national agency to ensure compliance, and their reports, along with those of our intelligence agencies, have consistently said Iran is complying, despite Trump's denials.

I believe their reports.
delta1 Offline
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Dealing with enemies, unsavory characters, dictators and all-around bad guys has been an enigma between governments since the birth of nations. The measurement of whether we should negotiate deals, openly or covertly, with our enemies is the overall objective and how it would benefit our people. The primary purpose would be national defense and world safety/security. A discredited objective would be personal gain or exploitation of others on behalf of specific private businesses. Other objectives fall within that spectrum.

Reagan was applauded for dealing with Gorbachev and the other Russian leaders. Nixon was given credit for dealing with the Communist Chinese Chairman Mao. History has shown the benefits of their dealings.
teedubbya Offline
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Yea but Reagan never dealt with the Iranian rebel government who in the presidency before him took Americans hostages.
delta1 Offline
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Of course not...they were terrorists and he wasn't even President yet...
teedubbya Offline
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They are also still in power. So I am sure he never would have done business with this regime.
Burner02 Offline
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Delta, I'm not as optimistic as you that Iran is not using the deal to expedite their efforts to nuke up.I personally feel that we will find out sooner than latter the truth behind their efforts.

I'm sure you are correct with the evidence that Iran is a stabilizing and peaceful force in the world. Sarcasm
Burner02 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Yea but Reagan never dealt with the Iranian rebel government who in the presidency before him took Americans hostages.



Guess that is not a deflection.
teedubbya Offline
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I'm not defecting at all. Just having fun. I already said if this is true I hope it dooms any of those involved. I don't care R or D. That isn't what drives me on stuff like this. That's why some in here think I'm a D because I won't blindly justify anything R does.

I think this is wrong if true and hope the hammer comes down.

Clear enough?
teedubbya Offline
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As for Iran, I do think the deal slowed them and while there is plenty of vitriol that says the opposite I've not seen any legitimate info doing so. I'll consider it if I do.

It's just odd to me how evil they are considered when the exact same group that is in charge now did business with Reagan etc. and most in here thought it was cool.
delta1 Offline
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^ #23

I never said Iran is a stabilizing and peaceful force in the world. I wouldn't trust them, and agree with Trump's assessment of their trustworthiness. But I hope that Trump doesn't pull the plug on the deal. There are so many other nations who are threatened by Iran and who signed on to the deal and are contributing their expertise in watching them. There are times when we need partners, when many countries have aligned interests, and a non-nuclear Iran is near the top of that chart.

here's a recent story in Reuters, considered a neutral/least biased news source:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear/iran-sticks-to-key-limits-of-nuclear-deal-u-n-watchdog-report-idUSKBN1DD1RS
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Burner02 wrote:
Whom you got in mind, Obama, Trump, Sharpton, Comey, McCabe, Strzok or maybe even Jefferson Davis.

You need to be more specific in order whip up the appropriate support and hate level.





I say we take that list you've got and call it a "good start"...
Phil222 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
But I hope that Trump doesn't pull the plug on the deal.


What in your opinion is the benefit of scrapping this deal for Trump (conservative donors)? It seems to have been an objective since the campaign trail.
frankj1 Offline
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undoing anything "Obama"...good or bad.
delta1 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
As for Iran, I do think the deal slowed them and while there is plenty of vitriol that says the opposite I've not seen any legitimate info doing so. I'll consider it if I do.

It's just odd to me how evil they are considered when the exact same group that is in charge now did business with Reagan etc. and most in here thought it was cool.



Someone wiser than me put a phrase to that: Trump Derangement Syndrome #1


and Reagan borrowed an old Russian proverb to describe his SALT deals with the USSR that now fits what we are doing in Iran, "Trust But Verify."
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I say we take that list you've got and call it a "good start"...


Double jeopardy may apply in the broadest since to Davis since he did serve time at Ft Monroe.
Burner02 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
As for Iran, I do think the deal slowed them and while there is plenty of vitriol that says the opposite I've not seen any legitimate info doing so. I'll consider it if I do.

It's just odd to me how evil they are considered when the exact same group that is in charge now did business with Reagan etc. and most in here thought it was cool.



For a minute I thought you were putting Reagan and Obama on equal footing.
teedubbya Offline
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Um no
SteveS Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
undoing anything "Obama"...good or bad.


the sole 'good' done by Obama cannot be undone ... capping Bin Laden ...

anything other than that should be undone ...
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Does this mean he has to give back that Nobel Peace Prize???Think
DrMaddVibe Offline
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SteveS wrote:
the sole 'good' done by Obama cannot be undone ... capping Bin Laden ...

anything other than that should be undone ...


SteveS...he didn't do that. Bush did. OBL was killed when we leveled a mountain range where he was holed up in Tora Bora. It was after this mission that the "fake" videos of him surfaced. Can't kill the gift that keeps on giving...to the Industrial Military Complex!


Instead...that Paki poofter of a mission was a quid pro quo to give up our helicopter stealth technology to the Chinese!
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bgz wrote:
I might have believed it if it was published by "High Times".


Hmm. I must have missed the article...
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