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Not many good smokes left on cbid
dsbklyn Offline
#1 Posted:
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Posts: 14
I have been bidding on this site for awhile now and every year it gets worse. I hope to see some good brands soon. Very disappointed.
corey sellers Offline
#2 Posted:
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Good leave bye bye don't let the door hit you in the azz
dsbklyn Offline
#3 Posted:
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Nice response Corey. You must smoke a lot of 5 Vegas gold and Cuban honeys.
corey sellers Offline
#4 Posted:
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Buy them by the box love them also like pineapple white owls don't knock what you have not tried
RMAN4443 Offline
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corey sellers wrote:
Buy them by the box love them also like pineapple white owls don't knock what you have not tried

MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm PineappleDrool
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#6 Posted:
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Good stuff there have not had a grape in a while that would go good with my PBR
dsbklyn Offline
#7 Posted:
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Yea I heard smoking those cigars causes people to take pics of themselves with monster fish they caught from the local creek.
corey sellers Offline
#8 Posted:
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Actually mine came from one of the ponds on the farm I live on and I smoked a Victor Sinclair and had a cold PBR that was a good day what brands are you looking for
jespear Offline
#9 Posted:
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RMAN4443 wrote:
MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm PineappleDrool


Speaking of WHITE OWLS . . . How WAS that grape WO, Rick ?
You know . . . The one you said you would smoke if the Patriots lost to the Eagles in the SuperBowl. (which they DID !)
corey sellers Offline
#10 Posted:
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Lmaorotf
deadeyedick Offline
#11 Posted:
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Maybe now that T house and c bid are both owned by the same outfit will improve the selection. I doubt it.
dsbklyn Offline
#12 Posted:
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Thanks deadeye, that’s an intelligent response.
RMAN4443 Offline
#13 Posted:
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jespear wrote:
Speaking of WHITE OWLS . . . How WAS that grape WO, Rick ?
You know . . . The one you said you would smoke if the Patriots lost to the Eagles in the SuperBowl. (which they DID !)

I'm afraid to admit, I haven't smoked it..........I have to admit I'm a little scared...how long am I gonna taste that thing? I mean it smells pretty grapey but I'm not sure I'm up to itBARF!
However, I am nothing if not a man of my word......I said I'd smoke it and I willd'oh! even if it kills me, and it might
I'll smoke it and post a review by next Sunday night(I had a delicious roast beef dinner earlier and don't want to ruin it)
Next weekend I'll have some frozen corndogs and smoke that Grape White owld'oh!
You want me to send you the nub(or half that's left) as evidence??Laugh
corey sellers Offline
#14 Posted:
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Got to have a PBR to go with it that will make it better lmaorotf
corey sellers Offline
#15 Posted:
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I want to see a picture lmao
corey sellers Offline
#16 Posted:
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I am still waiting on a response what are you looking for
RMAN4443 Offline
#17 Posted:
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corey sellers wrote:
I want to see a picture lmao

Thanks for your insightful input Corey.........your not really helpingBeer
PBR you say?
corey sellers Offline
#18 Posted:
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Lmao figured you would like that
corey sellers Offline
#19 Posted:
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Pray

Prayers sent
Palama Offline
#20 Posted:
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dsbklyn wrote:
I have been bidding on this site for awhile now and every year it gets worse. I hope to see some good brands soon. Very disappointed.


Depending on your definition of "good brands," with MAP, I wouldn't expect to see too many Fuentes or any Padrons. I rarely check the auctions anymore.
gummy jones Offline
#21 Posted:
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I haven't checked an auction let alone bid for a long time.
KingoftheCove Offline
#22 Posted:
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Posts: 7,632
dsbklyn wrote:
I have been bidding on this site for awhile now and every year it gets worse. I hope to see some good brands soon. Very disappointed.

Years ago when I discovered this site, the FOGs were already making this complaint.
At that time, I figured they were all elitists, because in my opinion, there were still plenty of decent to very good cigars here.
Since then
No Padrons...
No Illusiones...
No LFDs...
Pretty much no Fuentes...
Crowned Heads selection continues to shrivel up...
Oliva and DE offerings are here........but over priced...
I could go on...

Lots of AJ stuff, and Don Pepin stuff, but the Pepin stuff is again over priced, when compared to other places.
This shrinking product selection has resulted in me not buying here for 14 months............and I used to be a regular customer.
But cbid will survive, cause there's lots of guys who smoke several yard gars a day, and it's still a good place to snag smokeable $2 cigars.

Speyside Offline
#23 Posted:
Joined: 03-16-2015
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Maybe 2 dollar smokes is a more profitable business model.
KingoftheCove Offline
#24 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Maybe 2 dollar smokes is a more profitable business model.

Very well could be true, considering:
-MAP pricing
-what Swedish Match pays for bulk loads of RPs and such, and what it costs them to make their "house" brands

Probably more net profit in the low end...........simply by volume.
bgz Offline
#25 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
I've been doing some bidding this week just to try out the new system. I'm not having any issues with it except people keep overbidding my bids...

Oh well, can't win em all.
Ewok126 Offline
#26 Posted:
Joined: 06-25-2017
Posts: 4,356
bgz wrote:
I've been doing some bidding this week just to try out the new system. I'm not having any issues with it except people keep overbidding my bids...

Oh well, can't win em all.


That's just a bug with the new site but if you make a new account and on your first post here complain about it that will fix it. At Least that is what seems to fix it for the rest of the normal people cause they smart like that. Anxious
SteveS Offline
#27 Posted:
Joined: 01-13-2002
Posts: 8,751
dsbklyn wrote:
Not many good smokes left on cbid


that's 'cause I bought 'em ... if I'm looking for a specific cigar, I too can experience frustration in being unable to find it but if I'm open minded and looking for a pretty good deal on a good smoke, I can always find one ...
Phil222 Offline
#28 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2017
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I actually did some looking around and placed a bid today. There are a few bugs, but nothing I would boycott over. Now shipping on the other hand...
Salmoneye Offline
#29 Posted:
Joined: 01-18-2011
Posts: 163
Why all the PBR hate...

*sniff*
tonygraz Online
#30 Posted:
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Posts: 20,253
I heard that White Owl grapes go great paired with Manischewitz Concord Grape wine. That wine is sweetened with Cane sugar.
frankj1 Offline
#31 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
I heard that White Owl grapes go great paired with Manischewitz Concord Grape wine. That wine is sweetened with Cane sugar.

it's the Official Cigar of Temple Beth Israel

no need to snopes it
bgz Offline
#32 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
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Salmoneye wrote:
Why all the PBR hate...

*sniff*


I tried a PDR once (emphasis on once), can't say I've tried a PBR though, more a whiskey guy.
Speyside Offline
#33 Posted:
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Are you sure it isn't Mogen David?
tonygraz Online
#34 Posted:
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Yes, and don't call me David !
Ewok126 Offline
#35 Posted:
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Shoot, When I want old school and to reminisce on how things was, PBR is the way to go.

Now I did try some grape stogie that my wife picked out here not to long ago, cant remember what it was but, Yeah yall boys can keep that. I smelt and tasted Hubba Bubba grapes for a freakin month.
bgz Offline
#36 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Are you sure it isn't Mogen David?


You mad dawg?
frankj1 Offline
#37 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
You mad dawg?


Mogen David...
means Star of David, the actual 6 point Jewish Star...but also lesser known wine brand option to Manny at Jewish holidays.
feel free to miss out in this lifetime.



but I did see what you did there.
bgz Offline
#38 Posted:
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I didn't mean to be insensitive frank, I am trying to be a nicer, gentler bgz... but I just can't help myself.

Edit:

Thanks for the lesson though, I didn't know any of that :D
RMAN4443 Offline
#39 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
Mogen David...
means Star of David, the actual 6 point Jewish Star...but also lesser known wine brand option to Manny at Jewish holidays.
feel free to miss out in this lifetime.



but I did see what you did there.


Yeah,back in 1978 it was like 86 cents a quart. ....tasted like grape juice with a splash of kerosene, a very large splash of kerosene. ...d'oh! .....but it worked well,except for the raging headaches the next 3 days Not talking
frankj1 Offline
#40 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
I didn't mean to be insensitive frank, I am trying to be a nicer, gentler bgz... but I just can't help myself.

Edit:

Thanks for the lesson though, I didn't know any of that :D

no no no! I did not sense any insensitivity at all...was just defining Spey's post.
Just figgered most goyim don't know about Mogen David, and Spey is the Wine Guy.

Ya gotta assume you never need to apologize to me. You have a defined role here. It's great. We always been cool...no?
frankj1 Offline
#41 Posted:
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and I saw what you did there was for the You Mad Dawg...!
bgz Offline
#42 Posted:
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lol frank, we always been cool, I was just goofing around (Speyside and I were wording it up earlier, so my post was kind of a play off all that's been said today).
frankj1 Offline
#43 Posted:
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K

sorry I called you goyim...

my bad. that's the plural form of goy. Won't happen again.
firemanmike109 Offline
#44 Posted:
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wait, they auction off cigars here?
bgz Offline
#45 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
K

sorry I called you goyim...

my bad. that's the plural form of goy. Won't happen again.


I didn't notice that!!! Now I'm offended, lol.

j/k

This just got weird though man... in a camping with z by the river sort of way.
Speyside Offline
#46 Posted:
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Its all good. I didn't know that's what Mogen David means. Thanks Frank. So there are idn named Manny?
midmofan Offline
#47 Posted:
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We interrupt this discussion of Hebrew to return to the original OP and OP related comments....

I have noticed that most of what I have gotten from Cbid recently has been either AJ''s blends or $2/per cigars for golfing and boating and passing around. Most other brands that I regularly smoke, I have been finding elsewhere for less if I shop around and am patient for when the sales and specials pop up

However, I like most of what AJ creates and they have been going cheaper here then on other sites if you are discerning in your bids. That makes sense since CI and its related companies/websites have a special deal with AJ, with some brands being exclusive to the CI family, so I assume they are getting the best bulk pricing deals from AJ as well.

So Cbid still very useful to me, however, the recent bid prices have sent me elsewhere on many items.

Now back to Hebrew...

ברוך אתה ה’ א‑לוהינו, מלך העולם, סִיגָר לחם מן הארץ

Baruch atah Adonai, Eloheynu melech ha'olam, sigar lechem min ha'aretz

Blessed are You, oh Lord, our God, King of the universe, who brings forth cigars from the earth.


Although the above is pretty good Hebrew, there is not a real blessing for cigars in Judaism, although it has been argued over the years that there should be since it gives pleasure, and things that give pleasure should be blessed.

Legend has it that a Jew named Luis de Torres, who accompanied Christopher Columbus on his expedition in 1492, settled in Cuba, learned the use of tobacco, and introduced it into Europe. Whether he was first or not, Jews were some of the very earliest tobacco traders and there is a long line of commentary which shows that Jews smoked as soon as tobacco hit Europe.

Raphael Kohen's "Ḥuṭ ha-Meshullash" (Odessa, 1874), deals with the question of cigar-smoking on Sabbaths, and which finally reaches the conclusion that it is permissible on the ground that it affords "'oneg shabbat" (delight and enjoyment).

Currently most Rabbinic rulings are obviously focused on Cigarette smoking -even if they don't say that specifically - and have ruled since cigarette smoking is deadly and addictive and they are really-really bad for you, its not good to use them as you are not supposed to harm yourself. Therefore, since cigarettes do more harm than good, Jews should not start smoking and, if they already do smoke, should try to quit. Again what is cited in these rulings is the reasoning and data for cigarettes, begging the question if cigars are included in the more recent pronouncements.

The cigar/cigarette distinction is an especially interesting issue since consuming alcohol was known even in Biblical times to be harmful but is still permitted as it brings joy (cf, Psalms 104:15 and Proverbs 23:31-32). The current rulings on alcohol are pretty much that drinking is fine, but only in moderation so that the bad does not outweigh the good. There have even been some similar rulings in regards to marijuana. There are also cigars and marijuana that have been certified as Kosher by several Jewish religious bodies.

I have found no clear Cigar-specific rulings or pronouncements, but many Jewish commentators have discussed it. The Jewish author Dennis Prenger has also pointed out that the pronouncements often inappropriately mix all smoking together and noted that, "[s]ince most cigar smokers do not inhale the smoke, the only danger of cigar smoking is some form of mouth cancer. This is, however, so rare as to compete in frequency with death by lightning. In fact, I believe that my cigars — given all the joy and peace they induce — are more likely to prolong my life than terminate it."

JEWISH CIGAR HUMOR

Two young rabbis from different congregations were old friends who shared a great fondness for cigars. Once each year, when they had a chance to visit, they would pray together and, of course, light up.

Eventually, however, they became concerned that there might be some sin in their habit, and they each resolved to ask their respective superiors for guidance. When they met again, one was puffing away.

“But the head of my school told me it was a sin,” protested the other. “What did you ask him?” said the first. “I asked him if it was all right to smoke during evening prayer, and he said that I couldn’t.”

“Well,” said his friend as he blew a perfect smoke ring into the air, “I asked my superior if it was alright to pray during our evening smoke, and he said it was just fine!”



So if cigar smoking brings you enough joy and you do it in moderation, a Jewish person arguably is good to light up.

Oh, yes, I very much AM bored at work today...
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#48 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2017
Posts: 556
dsbklyn wrote:
I have been bidding on this site for awhile now and every year it gets worse. I hope to see some good brands soon. Very disappointed.



.....they WILL be offering new brands that came out in 2017 soon once all the suckers that pay full on line retail price are done buying. Especially if those new brands aren't selling all that well! Like the new AJ Monte, RyJ, H.Hpmann, Bellas Artes, New World Puro, Enclave Broadleaf, Southern Draw, and all the new E.P. Carrillo, Caldwell, and Aging Room lines. Herfing
frankj1 Offline
#49 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,221
midmofan wrote:
We interrupt this discussion of Hebrew to return to the original OP and OP related comments....

I have noticed that most of what I have gotten from Cbid recently has been either AJ''s blends or $2/per cigars for golfing and boating and passing around. Most other brands that I regularly smoke, I have been finding elsewhere for less if I shop around and am patient for when the sales and specials pop up

However, I like most of what AJ creates and they have been going cheaper here then on other sites if you are discerning in your bids. That makes sense since CI and its related companies/websites have a special deal with AJ, with some brands being exclusive to the CI family, so I assume they are getting the best bulk pricing deals from AJ as well.

So Cbid still very useful to me, however, the recent bid prices have sent me elsewhere on many items.

Now back to Hebrew...

ברוך אתה ה’ א‑לוהינו, מלך העולם, סִיגָר לחם מן הארץ

Baruch atah Adonai, Eloheynu melech ha'olam, sigar lechem min ha'aretz

Blessed are You, oh Lord, our God, King of the universe, who brings forth cigars from the earth.


Although the above is pretty good Hebrew, there is not a real blessing for cigars in Judaism, although it has been argued over the years that there should be since it gives pleasure, and things that give pleasure should be blessed.

Legend has it that a Jew named Luis de Torres, who accompanied Christopher Columbus on his expedition in 1492, settled in Cuba, learned the use of tobacco, and introduced it into Europe. Whether he was first or not, Jews were some of the very earliest tobacco traders and there is a long line of commentary which shows that Jews smoked as soon as tobacco hit Europe.

Raphael Kohen's "Ḥuṭ ha-Meshullash" (Odessa, 1874), deals with the question of cigar-smoking on Sabbaths, and which finally reaches the conclusion that it is permissible on the ground that it affords "'oneg shabbat" (delight and enjoyment).

Currently most Rabbinic rulings are obviously focused on Cigarette smoking -even if they don't say that specifically - and have ruled since cigarette smoking is deadly and addictive and they are really-really bad for you, its not good to use them as you are not supposed to harm yourself. Therefore, since cigarettes do more harm than good, Jews should not start smoking and, if they already do smoke, should try to quit. Again what is cited in these rulings is the reasoning and data for cigarettes, begging the question if cigars are included in the more recent pronouncements.

The cigar/cigarette distinction is an especially interesting issue since consuming alcohol was known even in Biblical times to be harmful but is still permitted as it brings joy (cf, Psalms 104:15 and Proverbs 23:31-32). The current rulings on alcohol are pretty much that drinking is fine, but only in moderation so that the bad does not outweigh the good. There have even been some similar rulings in regards to marijuana. There are also cigars and marijuana that have been certified as Kosher by several Jewish religious bodies.

I have found no clear Cigar-specific rulings or pronouncements, but many Jewish commentators have discussed it. The Jewish author Dennis Prenger has also pointed out that the pronouncements often inappropriately mix all smoking together and noted that, "[s]ince most cigar smokers do not inhale the smoke, the only danger of cigar smoking is some form of mouth cancer. This is, however, so rare as to compete in frequency with death by lightning. In fact, I believe that my cigars — given all the joy and peace they induce — are more likely to prolong my life than terminate it."

JEWISH CIGAR HUMOR

Two young rabbis from different congregations were old friends who shared a great fondness for cigars. Once each year, when they had a chance to visit, they would pray together and, of course, light up.

Eventually, however, they became concerned that there might be some sin in their habit, and they each resolved to ask their respective superiors for guidance. When they met again, one was puffing away.

“But the head of my school told me it was a sin,” protested the other. “What did you ask him?” said the first. “I asked him if it was all right to smoke during evening prayer, and he said that I couldn’t.”

“Well,” said his friend as he blew a perfect smoke ring into the air, “I asked my superior if it was alright to pray during our evening smoke, and he said it was just fine!”



So if cigar smoking brings you enough joy and you do it in moderation, a Jewish person arguably is good to light up.

Oh, yes, I very much AM bored at work today...


Loved it.
MACS Offline
#50 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,776
dsbklyn wrote:
Yea I heard smoking those cigars causes people to take pics of themselves with monster fish they caught from the local creek.


I'll have you know my monster fish come out of the ocean. What the hell you got against fishing?
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