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opelmanta1900 Offline
#51 Posted:
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Was that racist?
DrafterX Offline
#52 Posted:
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That would also depend on who you asked... Mellow
opelmanta1900 Offline
#53 Posted:
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True... cuz racists are gonna give you a totally different answer...
DrafterX Offline
#54 Posted:
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Things that are considered racist weren't necessarily 5 years ago... Mellow
bgz Offline
#55 Posted:
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All I know is Wookies are awesome. So calling something a Wookie should not be considered racist... because you're indirectly saying that they're awesome.

We all know Chewbacca is Wookie, and if Chewbacca is awesome, and Chewbacca lives on Endor, and is also a Wookie, then it is not racist to call a 4 foot black guy a Wookie... because Wookies are awesome.

opelmanta1900 Offline
#56 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Things that are considered racist weren't necessarily 5 years ago... Mellow


I'm entirely certain that 5 years ago, calling a black woman a wookie was considered racist by nearly every reasonable person... if you disagree, you can go ask a group of black people what they think... make sure to report back to us after you get out of the hospital...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#57 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
All I know is Wookies are awesome. So calling something a Wookie should not be considered racist... because you're indirectly saying that they're awesome.

We all know Chewbacca is Wookie, and if Chewbacca is awesome, and Chewbacca lives on Endor, and is also a Wookie, then it is not racist to call a 4 foot black guy a Wookie... because Wookies are awesome.


You sir, are a nerd...
bgz Offline
#58 Posted:
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True
frankj1 Offline
#59 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
You sir, are a nerd...

is that as bad as calling him a racist?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#60 Posted:
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Nerds are held in pretty high regard these days...
DrafterX Offline
#61 Posted:
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A nerdist is someone who hates nerds... Mellow
opelmanta1900 Offline
#62 Posted:
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I thought they were nerdphobes...
DrafterX Offline
#63 Posted:
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Nerdphobes just don't want to hang with them... Mellow
opelmanta1900 Offline
#64 Posted:
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Would you go to comicon?
DrafterX Offline
#65 Posted:
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But they prolly still laugh at them stuff... Mellow
HuckFinn Offline
#66 Posted:
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Versusnersus

It's Latin

Or maybe Swahili

Yeah that's it. Maybe
victor809 Offline
#67 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Would you go to comicon?


I've been going for a few years now
victor809 Offline
#68 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
A nerdist is someone who hates nerds... Mellow


Actually it's a podcast about nerd related topics.


...sigh....
tailgater Offline
#69 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
Hey, you're entitled to your opinion.
I think she's pretty. The end.

And don't you think that most portraits are meant to flatter?
Well ok, maybe not Picasso's.
So what, her portrait is softer, prettier.

And what does my aesthetic have to do with my politics?

You guys sure you aren't just a wee bit prejuduce against black people?
If you're sure you're not, my apologies but, that's kinda what I'm hearing round here.

Not the end of the world if you are. As long as you don't act on it, right?


The fact that you see race over the VERY obvious politics speaks more about your own issues than it does ours.

If Moochell was conservative I'd want to bang her two ways to sunday.

OK. kidding. But I probably wouldn't be quite as repulsed.

tailgater Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I'm entirely certain that 5 years ago, calling a black woman a wookie was considered racist by nearly every reasonable person... if you disagree, you can go ask a group of black people what they think... make sure to report back to us after you get out of the hospital...


Opel is saying that black people are violent when criticized.


Phil222 Offline
#71 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Opel is saying that black people are violent when criticized.


Would that be a stereotype or prejudice? I get them confused. Cool
bgz Offline
#72 Posted:
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nerd lives matter.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#73 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Opel is saying that black people are violent when criticized.



No, just saying that anyone who would refer to a black person as a wookie is so obviously racist that they would definitely get their ass kicked for pretending it wasn't... but if you don't believe me you should try it...
bgz Offline
#74 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
The fact that you see race over the VERY obvious politics speaks more about your own issues than it does ours.

If Moochell was conservative I'd want to bang her two ways to sunday.

OK. kidding. But I probably wouldn't be quite as repulsed.



Huck does seem a little more sensitive than the average forum poster here.

If the opportunity presented itself though, I would probably hit it just to say I did it :D

Barak: I was the president of the United States!!!

Me: What's your point, I banged your wife, trololol
tailgater Offline
#75 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Not as racist as referring to a black person as a wookie...


Please explain.

Because in all honesty I didn't see the correlation to race.

Michelle Obama appears to be "bigger" than her husband. I've never met her in person, but this leads one to believe that she has some girth. Couple that with her often-times mean scowl and you've got a big mean person.

A lady in my town, well known back when I coached little league, was rather large. I don't mean fat. I mean tall and wide. A big woman. And she was not very nice. Always with a scowl.
I don't know where or when it started. But her nickname became wookie. Not to her face, and never chewbacca. Not even "the" wookie. Just plain ol wookie.

Oh, forgot to add: she's white.



But when a large, mean woman who happens to be black is called a wookie it MUST be race.
smh.

You bring pathetic to a whole new level.

Of course, so do I.
Because it's sad how funny adults found that nickname. I don't feel bad because she was a wretched wench most of the time. But it's still sophomoric.
But hey, at least I don't cry racism every time I hear an insult. That's one that YOU own.



opelmanta1900 Offline
#76 Posted:
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Whatever you say racist...
tailgater Offline
#77 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
No, just saying that anyone who would refer to a black person as a wookie is so obviously racist that they would definitely get their ass kicked for pretending it wasn't... but if you don't believe me you should try it...


Holy crap.
You are totally a racist.

Instead of clarifying what you're saying, you're reinforcing the stereotype.
Sad.
And racist.
But mostly sad.

opelmanta1900 Offline
#78 Posted:
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Whatever you say racist...
tailgater Offline
#79 Posted:
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Phil222 wrote:
Would that be a stereotype or prejudice? I get them confused. Cool


Good point.

I guess it's more a stereotype.
Made by racists.
Like Opel.

tailgater Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Whatever you say racist...


At least you're not afraid to show how much of a buffoon you are.

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#81 Posted:
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If you're so certain your wookie comment wasnt racist, then go tell any black person you want, "i called Michelle Obama a wookie, do you consider that racist?"
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#82 Posted:
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Better yet, why don't we ping a black member on the cbid staff and ask them what they think about your wookie comment? Willing to do that?
Speyside Offline
#83 Posted:
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I have never seen a white furred wookie. Why not call her a Yeti? It is a shame the term stuck. It is juvenile. It is hate filled.
tailgater Offline
#84 Posted:
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Opel,
If you want to discuss whether it's racist to call a black lady a wookie (versus calling a white lady one), then I truly want to hear your reasoning.
What is it about the wookie, or about the person, that makes you think the two are being equated for color?

Are wookies black? I thought they were just covered in fur. Does that make dogs black?

But I don't want to put words in your mouth.
Let's hear it from the source. What trait makes you think the comparison is based on race?

I could say "she's ugly."
And you could cry racism. And some would agree.

So is it just your typical idiotic knee jerk response to everything? Or do you have a specific reason to compare the two?

opelmanta1900 Offline
#85 Posted:
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Ping cbid staff and ask any black person on staff if they find the term racist..
tailgater Offline
#86 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
I have never seen a white furred wookie. Why not call her a Yeti? It is a shame the term stuck. It is juvenile. It is hate filled.


I agree.
And I will not perpetuate the slur because it is childish. I've admitted this already.

tailgater Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Ping cbid staff and ask any black person on staff if they find the term racist..


At least you're not repeating yourself.

Idiot.

opelmanta1900 Offline
#88 Posted:
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Shut me up and do it then...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#89 Posted:
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You're so certain it isn't racist, shut me up, get a black person to agree with you...
Speyside Offline
#90 Posted:
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Not directed at you Joe, more of an add on to your comment.
tailgater Offline
#91 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Ping cbid staff and ask any black person on staff if they find the term racist..


You see only color.

You are indeed a very stupid person.

Dumber than a sock filled with sh*t.
With apologies to the sock.
And the sh*t.


tailgater Offline
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Speyside wrote:
Not directed at you Joe, more of an add on to your comment.


No, you were 100% correct.

But I wasn't arguing that she should be called anything.
Just that a particular term shouldn't be assumed to be race related. Although it certainly can be, as evidenced by the raving lunatic trolling us.

bgz Offline
#93 Posted:
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This thread is getting good.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#94 Posted:
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It would get really good if tail would stop being a p*ssy and solicit the opinions of some black people...
tailgater Offline
#95 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
You're so certain it isn't racist, shut me up, get a black person to agree with you...


If I thought that would shut you up I would do it 1000 times.


opelmanta1900 Offline
#96 Posted:
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Just do it once!
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Apparently the "chewbacca" comment originated in the media from a conservative radio host Jimmy Lakey.
He's from colorado... so likely is trying to avoid black people because he thinks they all have sickle cell anemia....

He was not clear on why he believed calling her chewbacca was appropriate. But he is on tape also laughing when one of his callers said she looked like an ape.

None of this is rocket science, and none of it really needs to be debated endlessly. The costuming for chewbacca was reminiscent of an ape. Look at photos of the two. Jutting jaw, heavy brow, elongated canines, significantly stronger than humans, elongated arms. It is pretty clear to a lot of people out there that this is just a way for people who want to say she looks like an ape, to say she looks like an ape without being called racist for saying a black person looks like an ape.

Then they get all butt-hurt because everyone can see through the super thin ruse....
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#98 Posted:
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I'm not trying to win anything here tail... i think it would be incredibly helpful for you to hear from a black person - any black person - to hear from them what it feels like to hear a white guy call a black woman a wookie...
tailgater Offline
#99 Posted:
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I'd like to issue an apology to any people of color reading this thread.

Most CBid posters do not think that African Americans are violent. We do not think that we'd need hospitalization if we were to solicit your opinion on anything, even it were potentially of a racial nature.

Opelmantra does not represent our community.
Heck, he doesn't even represent men in general.
He's a blight on an otherwise happy community of people who smoke cigars and like to debate issues. Usually with dignity. Sometimes with humor. Occasionally with logic. And never, ever funny. Unless Frank says it's OK to LOL.



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^you forgot to accuse me of being a pedophile...
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