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Proposed Gun Purchase Age Limitation
Gene363 Offline
#1 Posted:
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Let this soak into your brain, the parliament of whores and you too Mr. President.
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Ewok126 Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 06-25-2017
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Very good point, I tend to agree with this but, in playing devil's advocate.


The young man in the photo has had professional training with such weapons.

The everyday young man (citizen) in the US does not get said training.

Does this make a difference?
cacman Offline
#3 Posted:
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Gene363 Offline
#4 Posted:
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Ewok126 wrote:
Very good point, I tend to agree with this but, in playing devil's advocate.


The young man in the photo has had professional training with such weapons.

The everyday young man (citizen) in the US does not get said training.

Does this make a difference?


It might, but the 18 to 21 year olds would have the exact same level of training as those buyers 21 and older.

Also, unless their MOS involves shooting a rifle they get minimal rifle training.
Ewok126 Offline
#5 Posted:
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Very true indeed. In civilian life two years from 19 to 21 there is not much difference at all in general or even with the growth in wisdom. I was lucky enough at a young age to have training in gun safety and laws but most do not get such training. Also at a young age I had the ability to take it very seriously and I feel a lot now a days don't have that either. Well some do but for the most part I feel they don't. I am pretty sure that the older generation during my younger years thought the same of me but then again they did trust me with a weapon at the very young age of 13 so who knows. Granted I was not allowed to keep the weapon in my room or have access to it at any time without an adult but I was allowed to hunt with the adults using my own weapon. My son same thing applied he had is own to hunt with when we went hunting but again not allowed access on his own. My son is now 22 and has his own weapons but again not allowed access in my home. Once he gets his own place whole different story lol.
ypetryna Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 07-19-2012
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Ewok126 wrote:
Very good point, I tend to agree with this but, in playing devil's advocate.


The young man in the photo has had professional training with such weapons.

The everyday young man (citizen) in the US does not get said training.

Does this make a difference?



Yup^. he also probably went through some mental health protocol. im not much older then that, and i have guns, but this is getting ridiculous. its also a bad argument.

I.E. - he can get killed for his country, but he cannot buy a beer for it anywhere, or even smokes in chicago. its an emotional appeal, but an awful argument in serious discourse.
Ewok126 Offline
#7 Posted:
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Umm, also there is a reason that our military goes after ones so young. We see the recruiters at the high schools and such and it is more than just the value of youth,vigor, strength etc. It has to do more with psychological aspects of a child vs an adult. Which I do think it sux that our gubment plays on that. It is a bad argument in my mind because it is basically comparing in what I would consider two evils. Our gubment is willing to play on the non mental capabilities of a child for protection but not willing to give them the right to be adults elsewhere. Then again not having that capability as a child it should not be given on either side of the fence.

The thing is though in the service one has no choice ,I think, but to grow up very fast especially during war time vs civilian to where a 30 year old is still got the mentality of a 15 year old.

Just my opinion
Cathcam13 Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 01-11-2018
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Well put, Ewok. My sister did 4 years in the Marine Corps. Currently she is finishing her masters degree at Portland State. But she is only 26 years old. The Corp turned her from a decent student to a driven individual. She saw action in Afghanistan, still has problems with it, but deals with those issues appropriately. I would give that girl my last gun in a firefight, any time. I have never seen such accuracy before.
Ewok126 Offline
#9 Posted:
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Cathcam13 wrote:
Well put, Ewok. My sister did 4 years in the Marine Corps. Currently she is finishing her masters degree at Portland State. But she is only 26 years old. The Corp turned her from a decent student to a driven individual. She saw action in Afghanistan, still has problems with it, but deals with those issues appropriately. I would give that girl my last gun in a firefight, any time. I have never seen such accuracy before.



Thank you sir, This is a prime example of what I am speaking of. I have met folks that was a lot younger than me that have been through such and I was amazed at the mentality. It was as if I was speaking with a respectable 30 to 40 year old in a 19 - 21 year old body. The wisdom was astounding, the respect for the value of their brothers in arms and their comrades lives above their own. The sad part is things like having to deal with the problems of being in and seeing the action but knowing that most would do it again and again. This is what the civilian population does not get in life for the most part at that age.

By the way Cath, Please tell sis for me that I do greatly appreciate her service and what she has given for me and mine. It is a debt that can never be repaid and I say this to all that have served at any time.
Cathcam13 Offline
#10 Posted:
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I will, she never really knows what to say in return to such things, and I continue to tell her, you did a job no one else in our town could. For that alone, we are eternally grateful.
Ewok126 Offline
#11 Posted:
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Cathcam13 wrote:
I will, she never really knows what to say in return to such things, and I continue to tell her, you did a job no one else in our town could. For that alone, we are eternally grateful.


I run into that a lot, ones not sure how to reply, I typically tell them No reply is expected or needed. Just know that I am forever in there debt.
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