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Goodbye Rex Tillerson, we hardly knew you.....
banderl Offline
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Tweet, tweet, tweet
rfenst Offline
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banderl wrote:
Tweet, tweet, tweet

Fired. Found out on Twitter, no less. What a message of White House stability!
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The revolving door continues.
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I questioned an Exxon guy getting picked, ended up hoping he'd stay, not so much for any shared philosophies but what seemed to be some normalcy about him and his processing of info.
banderl Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
I questioned an Exxon guy getting picked, ended up hoping he'd stay, not so much for any shared philosophies but what seemed to be some normalcy about him and his processing of info.



How dare you question the president's judgement,


































Putin is not pleased..
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Apparently his statements about our intelligence agencies being correct regarding Russian interference with our elections upset Donny
Wonder if the ex-head of the CIA will adopt Trump's narrative about Russians.
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He was told last Friday... Mellow
HuckFinn Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
He was told last Friday... Mellow

On the sabbath??
DrMaddVibe Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
I questioned an Exxon guy getting picked



Totally agree....on that part.
frankj1 Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Totally agree....on that part.

dd you get a little more comfortable about his ability after a while?
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HuckFinn wrote:
On the sabbath??

wrong Tribe
DrMaddVibe Offline
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No.

It's like he wasn't even there. Not really sure if he ever did anything.
frankj1 Offline
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HA!
Maybe that's what started appealing to me...calm waters?
DrMaddVibe Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
HA!
Maybe that's what started appealing to me...calm waters?


Not a ripple on the water.
frankj1 Offline
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good hair though.
deadeyedick Offline
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The most "presidential" of the entire cabinet.
Speyside Offline
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His days were numbered after Trump found out Tillerson called him a moron. Honestly, any president would replace someone who called them a moron.
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I really thought he could outlast Sessions. We should have a pool. I wonder what the bookmakers say about who's next?

I'd guess:

Kelly: 4:1
Sessions: 4:1
DeVos: 50:1
Mnuchin: 25:1
Carson: 10:1
Perry: 6:1
Perdue: 15:1
Zinke: 8:1
Haley: 100:1 - unless she's got some sort of 130K NDA to rip up and stir the odds pot
Field: 3:1
Speyside Offline
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I think I would go 2:1 on Sessions. Domino effect to get to Mueller.
ZRX1200 Offline
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He serves at the pleasure of the POTUS. When you undercut the POTUS policy, expect to get let go..

Reading these anti Cheeto threads is like listening to old stupid women mooing at the TV while the View is on.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
He serves at the pleasure of the POTUS. When you undercut the POTUS policy, expect to get let go..

Reading these anti Cheeto threads is like listening to old stupid women mooing at the TV while the View is on.

gonna have to defer to you on this one!
delta1 Offline
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If Trump knew how to select and promote the best, there wouldn't be threads like this...but there'd be other stuff to moo about...

just like all the wild barking from the right that happened here when Obama was in charge...

BTW: Trump's turnover among his peeps at this stage in his term is more than twice that of any other POTUS...so he IS making history...this is not mindless work...high turnover leads to inefficient and low performance levels when the work is complex...that being said, Tillerson's departure was expected...a Secretary of State has to be in sync with the President...
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delta1 wrote:
If Trump knew how to select and promote the best, there wouldn't be threads like this...but there'd be other stuff to moo about...

just like all the wild barking from the right that happened here when Obama was in charge...

BTW: Trump's turnover among his peeps at this stage in his term is more than twice that of any other POTUS...so he IS making history...this is not mindless work...high turnover leads to inefficient and low performance levels when the work is complex...that being said, Tillerson's departure was expected...a Secretary of State has to be in sync with the President...

like when Rexy wanted to talk to NK and Trump called him weak, and responded with Little Rocketman?
Like that kind of sync...that ended up being the road taken?
ZRX1200 Offline
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You're right about what was happening here when Obama was in office.
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The Unfaithful Departed: Meet The People Who Bailed On The Obama Administration


by Tyler Durden

latest resignation of yet another former Obama administration faithful - that of White House press secretary Jay Carney - got us thinking: how many people have jumped off the USS Obamic? The answer is, in short, a lot.

Below is a list (by no means complete) of the most prominent officials and advisors who have quietly exited the Obama administration stage left over the past 6 years.

Jay Carney





White House Press Secretary Jay Carney is leaving his post. President Obama announced Carney’s departure in a surprise appearance at in the White House press briefing room May 30, 2014. He said principal deputy press secretary Josh Earnest will take over the job.

* * *

Eric K. Shinseki



Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric K. Shinseki gives the keynote address at the National Coalition for Homeless Veterans Annual Conference in Washington. Shinseki addressed what he called the "elephant in the room," saying he was too trusting of some and calling breaches of integrity "indefensible and unacceptable." Shinseki met with President Obama and resigned a short time later on May 30, 2014.

* * *

Kathleen Sebelius



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Kathleen Sebelius resigned as secretary of Health and Human Services in April 2014 after numerous problems with the rollout of the Affordable Care Act

* * *

Keith B. Alexander



Keith Alexander has been the direct of the NSA since August 2005. Following the Edward Snowden whistleblowing scandal, Alexander announced in October 2013 that he would leave the NSA.

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Lois Lerner



Lois Lerner ran the IRS's section on tax-exempt organizations until her resignation in September 2013, following a scandal exposing the targeting of tea-party groups for IRS scrutiny.

* * *

Ray LaHood



Ray LaHood was secretary of transportation from 2009 until July 2013. He was strong proponent of high-speed rail, saying "This is what the American people want. If you build it, they will come." Perhaps best known for saying ""America is one big pothole right now", he did not seek any public office after that, and instead entered the private sector.

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Jill Sommers



Jill Sommers was appointed in July 2009 by Obama to serve a five-year second term as Commissioner of the CTFC. She announced her departure from the CFTC in July 2013, after concluding oversight of the agency’s investigation of MF Global. She now works at the IFM foundation as a consultant.

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Ken Salazar



Ken Salazar was US Secretary of the Interior from 2009 until his resignation in April 2013. On June 10, 2013 he became a partner in the major international law firm of WilmerHale, and was charged with opening a Denver office for the firm

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Lanny Breuer



Lanny Breuer was Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division of the US from April 2009 until March 2013 when he departed following a scandal in which it was revealed that the DOJ is unwilling to prosecute certain financial firms over concerns they are "Too Big To Prosecute."

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Lisa Jackson



Lisa Jackson served as the Administrator of the United States Environmental Protection Agency from January 2009 to February 2013. In May 2013, it was announced that Jackson would be joining Apple, Inc. as their environmental director

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Leon Panetta



Leon Panetta resigned as secretary of defense in February 2013.

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Janet Napolitano



Janet Napolitano resigned as homeland security secretary in July 2013 to become president of the University of California system.

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Hillary Rodham Clinton



Hillary Rodham Clinton resigned as secretary of state in February 2013 after four years in the post.

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Tim Geithner



Tim Geithner was US Treasury Secretary from January 2009 from January 2013, following a stint as head of the NY Fed following his personal admission he had no actual experience as a banker, and after admitting " I've never been a regulator." After his tenure as the worst US Treasury Secretary in history (perhaps only tied with Hank Paulson), Geithner joined Warburg Pincus as president and managing director in March 2014. He also wrote a book which briefly sold a lot of copies in the fiction section on Amazon.com

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Mary Schapiro



Mary Schapiro was Chairman of the SEC from January 2009 until December 2012 when she left following zero banker prosecutions as a result of the great financial crisis/robbery, and after formalizing the rigging of the capital markets by the HFT lobby. In April 2013, Schapiro joined Promontory Financial Group as a managing director and chairwoman of its governance and markets practice.

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David Petraeus



David Petraeus was Director of the CIA from September 2011 until his resignation in November 2012, when he resignedciting his extramarital affair which was reportedly discovered in the course of an FBI investigation

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William Daley



President Obama announced Jan. 9, 2012, that Chief of Staff William Daley will step down. Obama named Budget Director Jack Lew as Daley's replacement.

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Dennis Ross



President Obama's key Middle East adviser, Dennis Ross, said he would resign after a period of turmoil in the Arab world and a difficult period in U.S. relations with Israel. Ross, a veteran U.S. peace negotiator, said in a statement that he had made a promise to his wife to return to private life after two years in the administration and had outstayed that promise by a year. He added that he was returning to private life with “mixed feelings.”

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Reggie Love



Reggie Love, a key member of the Obama entourage and onetime forward for the Duke Blue Devils basketball team, left the White House at the end of 2011. Love started out as a staff assistant in Obama’s Senate office after college, rising to become his personal assistant, known as the “body man.”

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Melody Barnes



White House Domestic Policy Council Director Melody Barnes, one of a handful of high-profile women in the White House, will leave her post as President Obama’s domestic policy adviser at the end of 2011, two senior administration officials confirmed.

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Jen Psaki



Former White House deputy communications director Jen Psaki announced her departure from the administration in September 2011 to take on a senior role at Global Strategy Group, a well-known Democratic communications and research firm.

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Vivek Kundra



Vivek Kundra, the federal government's first chief information officer, left his position in August 2011 for a fellowship with Harvard University.

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Michael Leiter




After five years as the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, Michael Leiter plans to resign because he thinks he has spent enough time in the position. President Obama praised Leiter, calling him "a trusted adviser to me and the entire national security team."

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Austan Goolsbee



White House Council of Economic Advisers Chairman Austan Goolsbee plans to resign and return to academia, the White House said June 6, 2011.

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Bob Bauer



Counsel to the President Bob Bauer meets in the Oval Office with President Obama and other senior advisers. Bauer, a longtime Obama adviser, will return to private practice but will continue to advise Obama as a personal lawyer and offer legal counsel to Obama's reelection campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

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Bill Burton



White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton and White House political adviser Sean Sweeney (not pictured) are leaving the administration to form their own political and strategic consulting firm. They announced their plans on Feb. 16, 2011. Burton has been mentioned as a potential candidate in the race to replace Rep. Chris Lee (R-N.Y.).

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Ron Klain



Ron Klain, the chief of staff to Vice President Joe Biden, is leaving the White House to become president of Case Holdings, the holding company for the business and philanthropic interests of former AOL chairman Steve Case. Klain also served as chief of staff Al Gore and was portrayed by Kevin Spacey in the HBO film "Recount," about the 2000 presidential election.

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Glenn Fine



Justice Department Inspector General Glenn Fine left after a decade in the post. First appointed by President Clinton, Fine became a prominent figure during his office's investigation of Bush administration scandals.

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Gen. James L. Jones



It was revealed the morning of Oct. 8, 2010, that National Security Advisor Gen. James L. Jones was resigning and being replaced by his deputy, Thomas Donilon. A recent book exposed tension between Jones and President Obama over war strategy.

* * *

Rahm Emanuel



Rahm Emanuel was the White House Chief of Staff from January 2009 until October 2010. Following his depature, Emanuel became mayor of Chicago.

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Lawrence H. Summers



Lawrence H. Summers, will step down as director of the National Economic Council after the November elections and return to a teaching post at Harvard University, the White House announced Sept. 21, 2010.

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Peter R. Orszag



Peter Orszag was the Director of the Office of Management and Budget from January 2009 until July 2010. He is currently Vice Chairman of Corporate and Investment Banking, Chairman of the Public Sector Group, and Chairman of the Financial Strategy and Solutions Group at Citigroup.

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Christina Romer



Council of Economic Advisers Chair Christina Romer resigned to return to academia. President Obama said in a statement that Romer's decision was guided by "family commitments." She has long signaled that her time in Washington would be temporary.

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Gen. David McKiernan



Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, left, decided to replace former Army Gen. David McKiernan less than a year after he took over the war effort in Afghanistan. McKiernan was criticized as too cautious and conventionally minded.

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Ellen Moran



Ellen Moran left her post as communications director to become the chief of staff at the Commerce Department, becoming the first of Obama's top advisers to depart.

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Gregory B. Craig



Gregory B. Craig was fired as White House counsel after months of tumult over the administration's inability to close the military detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
frankj1 Offline
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Once again, wrong thread noob. What are so afraid to find if you stay current?

care to weigh in on this thread about Trump's situation, or is that too unsettling?

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Trump has already almost exceeded that list in his first 1.5 years. He's only off by like 5. And that was over 8 years.

If you think that's even slightly a valid response you're a moron who doesn't understand numbers.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
You're right about what was happening here when Obama was in office.



IMHO: mooing sounds gentle and calming (what's that commercial about contented cows?)...barking sounds annoying and threatening...
banderl Offline
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The orange moron isn't even man enough to do a face to face firing.

At least 40 top staffers have left since the idiot took over.
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Wow, left hated Tillerson when he was appointed but now, greatest thing since sliced bread.

LMFAO
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Burner02 wrote:
Wow, left hated Tillerson when he was appointed but now, greatest thing since sliced bread.

LMFAO

here's what I wrote...I thought it was showing open-mindedness.

"I questioned an Exxon guy getting picked, ended up hoping he'd stay, not so much for any shared philosophies but what seemed to be some normalcy about him and his processing of info"...


hardly a "hate-to-great" speech by me! I'm one of those on The Left you spoke for.

Fanning the flames of partisan politics?
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frankj1 wrote:
here's what I wrote...I thought it was showing open-mindedness.

"I questioned an Exxon guy getting picked, ended up hoping he'd stay, not so much for any shared philosophies but what seemed to be some normalcy about him and his processing of info"...


hardly a "hate-to-great" speech by me! I'm one of those on The Left you spoke for.

Fanning the flames of partisan politics?



Frank, I'm beginning to worry about you. My post was not directed specifically one person.

My inference is that he will not do any thing that is correct in the eyes of the majority of the left.

Call it what ever you may.
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Got a news alert....first glance, I thought it said "Lisa Kudrow tapped to be Chief Economic Advisor"....I dunno...why not?

Phoebe for President!
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dstieger wrote:
Got a news alert....first glance, I thought it said "Lisa Kudrow tapped to be Chief Economic Advisor"....I dunno...why not?

Phoebe for President!


I thought the same thing when I saw that headline.
Can't be any worse than his other choices these days.
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Burner, the right groups the left together as one collective group. Simply stated this is not true. If you read what you first wrote that appears to be what you did. Frank was clearly responding to your generalization.
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Burner02 wrote:
Wow, left hated Tillerson when he was appointed but now, greatest thing since sliced bread.

LMFAO



looked pretty hard here, but did not see any libs say that Tillerson was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

The comments were about Trump's revolving door administration, due in part to his selection of people who were ill-suited for the posts he put them in. He's had the most turnover in the first 14 months of any President in recent memory...

The secondary observation is the manner in which he treats and then ejects his staff...

these two observations lead to this conclusion: Trump will have difficulty filling key positions with the "best people" and work by the Trump administration behalf of the American people will be diminished.
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delta1 wrote:
looked pretty hard here, but did not see any libs say that Tillerson was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

The comments were about Trump's revolving door administration, due in part to his selection of people who were ill-suited for the posts he put them in. He's had the most turnover in the first 14 months of any President in recent memory...

The secondary observation is the manner in which he treats and then ejects his staff...

these two observations lead to this conclusion: Trump will have difficulty filling key positions with the "best people" and work by the Trump administration behalf of the American people will be diminished.



You're wasting your breath, Delta.
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The new choice knows how to handle mount Vesuvius
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Burner02 wrote:
Frank, I'm beginning to worry about you. My post was not directed specifically one person.

My inference is that he will not do any thing that is correct in the eyes of the majority of the left.

Call it what ever you may.

I took it as the left, as stated, not me specifically. That's why I wrote I am 'one of the Left'...

anyway, all you have to worry about with me is if I break into your whisk(e)y locker!
delta1 Offline
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watch out Burner...he's also looking for porno pics of GOP women...
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delta1 wrote:
watch out Burner...he's also looking for porno pics of GOP women...

but they gots to be HAWT!
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banderl wrote:
You're wasting your breath, Delta.



And this comes from the mouth of one that would not recognize an open mind if it ran up your backside.
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frankj1 wrote:
I took it as the left, as stated, not me specifically. That's why I wrote I am 'one of the Left'...

anyway, all you have to worry about with me is if I break into your whisk(e)y locker!


Would never have thought that you were one of the left. Wow, who knew.

If I'm around when you drop in, I would be more than glad to share a few drams with you.

If not, don't know if you will defeat the cub preventative measures in place. Hope you have good medical insurance if you try.
banderl Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
And this comes from the mouth of one that would not recognize an open mind if it ran up your backside.



Tell us how your boy, the orange moron, is handling your beloved classified information.
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He could be the one, you know like a genius tripod.
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banderl wrote:
Tell us how your boy, the orange moron, is handling your beloved classified information.




Check out #31, "They're With Her...Would've Been Better If They Weren't"
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delta1 wrote:
watch out Burner...he's also looking for porno pics of GOP women...


With Hillary on point he needs to be looking for porno pics of something.
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