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Trump and Koch brothers sever ties
HuckFinn Offline
#1 Posted:
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Trump tweeted: The globalist Koch Brothers, who have become a total joke in real Republican circles, are against Strong Borders and Powerful Trade. I never sought their support because I don't need their money or bad ideas. They love my Tax & Regulation Cuts, Judicial picks & more."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/31/politics/trump-koch-brothers/index.html


With midterms around the corner probably not a great disunion.
Pretty sure that's an actual word.
bgz Offline
#2 Posted:
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I love watching Trump fire up libs.

It's like, can you believe Trump said this or that, he's going down now for sure...

Then his popularity goes up... it's crazy.

Don't you guys on the left know that you are giving him all the free publicity he can handle?

The things you guys piss and moan over for weeks on end causes half the country to like him more.

Trump is the most entertaining president of all time. I mean, it's just funny AF watching it... anyway, carry on with your rants.
delta1 Offline
#3 Posted:
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He has figured out how to turn politics into the world's reality TV show, with himself as the focal point and "star"...

just tweet something provocative a few times a day...

it's kinda hard to 'block" him because he's: 1) POTUS, 2) capable of spewing stuff that some people find funny and agreeable while others find contemptible, 3) purposely divisive, and 4) occasionally puts stuff on record that will cause him trouble in the future...
bgz Offline
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And yet he's still standing... kind of impressive actually.
delta1 Offline
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for sure...definitely entertaining...

wonder how long Bannon thought he'd last...
ZRX1200 Offline
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He's simply the best.
HuckFinn Offline
#7 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
I love watching Trump fire up libs.

It's like, can you believe Trump said this or that, he's going down now for sure...

Then his popularity goes up... it's crazy.

Don't you guys on the left know that you are giving him all the free publicity he can handle?

The things you guys piss and moan over for weeks on end causes half the country to like him more.

Trump is the most entertaining president of all time. I mean, it's just funny AF watching it... anyway, carry on with your rants.

Sheez, wasn't ranting!? I'm not fired up either. No piss. No moans. Ok, a little piss...

Actually read today that Romney, a past outspoken critic of Trump, but now maybe because he's making a run for the Senate is saying it's inevitable that Trump will win in 2020.

Strange times we're living in...
bgz Offline
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A local morning show here in AZ is run by an extremely skilled impressionist.

He does an awesome Trump... he does a good Bernie and Obama too.

I remember when the primaries were going, he's all (paraphrasing), "I don't care who wins really, but the only ones who would be good for us is Trump or Sanders"...

Then he goes off into a skit with them two going back and forth.

Anyway, entertaining as hell... Between all the comics and watching the left rant, I would probably vote for him in 2020 just to keep the comedy going.
tailgater Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:


Actually read today that Romney, a past outspoken critic of Trump, but now maybe because he's making a run for the Senate is saying it's inevitable that Trump will win in 2020.

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Mitt Romney.
First Russia. Now this.
Like a Mormon Nostradamus.
ZRX1200 Offline
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I will vote for him. I can't get enough of the derangement.
delta1 Offline
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mid-term elections coming up...wonder if Mueller's gonna wait until they're over before releasing the findings of the special investigation...
frankj1 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
mid-term elections coming up...wonder if Mueller's gonna wait until they're over before releasing the findings of the special investigation...

WWCD?

what would Comey do?
tailgater Offline
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And for the record, I've always thought they pronounced their name wrong...
HuckFinn Offline
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delta1 wrote:
mid-term elections coming up...wonder if Mueller's gonna wait until they're over before releasing the findings of the special investigation...


Isn't the protocol wait til after elections?
HuckFinn Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I will vote for him. I can't get enough of the derangement.


schadenfreudist
ZRX1200 Offline
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Mueller will do what he can to have maximum impact, and they really don't care about the truth.
delta1 Offline
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Looks like you expect Mueller to drop the hammer on some Trump campaign people, possibly Trump himself, before the mid-term elections, and that the hammer will contain charges unsupported by evidence...
Speyside Online
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Trump is a master of changing the subject. I really do think much of his rants are calculated and effective. Al, the only way to know what Muellers report will say is to wait for it. I honestly doubt it will contain any criminal actions on president Trumps part.
ZRX1200 Offline
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No, if they had something it would have leaked by now like every other thing they've failed to control as "unbiased" investigators. There's a reason they gone as far as they have with Flynn, and Cohen and it's not evidence it's pressure. I'm not against that per say, but this example is overreach. Look at the schit they pulled with Carter Paige who FUGGIN HELPED THEM.......it's asanine.
frankj1 Offline
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don't ya hate it when registered Republicans go all lib suddenly?
DrMaddVibe Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
No, if they had something it would have leaked by now like every other thing they've failed to control as "unbiased" investigators. There's a reason they gone as far as they have with Flynn, and Cohen and it's not evidence it's pressure. I'm not against that per say, but this example is overreach. Look at the schit they pulled with Carter Paige who FUGGIN HELPED THEM.......it's asanine.



Digging up stuff from 10 years ago? Lying to the FBI? Is that really a crime? I don't think it is.

They have NOTHING on Trump. Like you said, if they did...that would've dropped already. Mueller and henchmen are just getting paid. Drag it out so they don't have to leave the taxpayer paid trough.

If they were serious they would be going after Hillary anyways. Nobody gives a $hit about Russia. Immigrants. Taxes. Healthcare. Yeah...the list goes on. Where's Stormy?
DrafterX Offline
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Isn't it up to CNN to direct the outrage or change the subject..?? Think
dstieger Offline
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This isn't a surprise. Two trends made it inevitable:

As more and more R's bow down to Trump, the camel's back is badly strained. Protectionism and fervent nationalism were never going to be on the Kochs' agenda.

Kochs were probably good when the religious right tried to keep Trump at arm's length, but that seems to have pretty much evaporated lately. Aside from some criticisms on the family separations, I don't see a lot of space between them any more. Trump has been gradually, but steadily putting more god into his speeches. Look at last night he really let loose about Christmas.....not sure where that came from....sure its been a thing for years, but not often in July.

Sure, the Kochs want less regulations and lower taxes, but they also seem to value free speech, smaller military expenditures and free markets, all of which are going in the opposite direction for the foreseeable future. They'll still spend a lot of money, but I think they're going to be more precise in directing it towards things they see as agenda items....and the whole of the Republican Party in general isn't getting it done for them right now.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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dstieger wrote:
This isn't a surprise. Two trends made it inevitable:

As more and more R's bow down to Trump, the camel's back is badly strained. Protectionism and fervent nationalism were never going to be on the Kochs' agenda.

Kochs were probably good when the religious right tried to keep Trump at arm's length, but that seems to have pretty much evaporated lately. Aside from some criticisms on the family separations, I don't see a lot of space between them any more. Trump has been gradually, but steadily putting more god into his speeches. Look at last night he really let loose about Christmas.....not sure where that came from....sure its been a thing for years, but not often in July.

Sure, the Kochs want less regulations and lower taxes, but they also seem to value free speech, smaller military expenditures and free markets, all of which are going in the opposite direction for the foreseeable future. They'll still spend a lot of money, but I think they're going to be more precise in directing it towards things they see as agenda items....and the whole of the Republican Party in general isn't getting it done for them right now.



Just like Nazis Soros...should've spread the money around a bit. 70/30? 60/40? Instead went ALL IN...lost it all. Oh well. A great thing for America all around. They can afford to lose everything they ever ripped of Americans for.
delta1 Offline
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didn't they spend a shipton of money in a whole lot of states helping local GOP House candidates win elections in 2014 and 2016 to ensure the GOP maintained a majority in the House? They may not back Trump, but maintaining the House majority does seem like a high GOP priority...
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