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Cigarlady7

#1 Posted: Fri, May 24 2019, 6:39 PM EST

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How often do you smoke? Do you ever worry about what too many does to your health?

I smoke two per day, three max. I don't worry too bad about what it does currently, but the long run is a different thing. I know smokers that have had a smoking existence for 25/30 years and they are healthy as a horse.

Cigars are nothing like cigarettes. Therefore, the long term affect is much more different.

What are your thoughts?

tamapatom User Profile	#2 Posted: Fri, May 24 2019, 6:46 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 03-19-2015 Posts: 7,381	I am more in the one or two a week category. So on a sliding scale I think I'm OK. You on the other hand.....you're gonna die!

smokestaxx User Profile	#3 Posted: Fri, May 24 2019, 6:50 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 01-27-2012 Posts: 4,214	I smoke as much as possible. 2-3 is an ideal day. What ever comes my way, bring it on.

Cigarlady7 User Profile	#4 Posted: Fri, May 24 2019, 7:04 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-03-2018 Posts: 1,094	tamapatom wrote: I am more in the one or two a week category. So on a sliding scale I think I'm OK. You on the other hand.....you're gonna die! Geez! Thanks...

izonfire User Profile	#5 Posted: Fri, May 24 2019, 7:15 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 12-09-2013 Posts: 8,647	I usually smoke 2-3 a day on the weekends (Fri nite, Sat, Sun) with maybe 1 or 2 during the week while in the car. Thinking of reducing it a bit so that I can continue to enjoy them as I get older without having any concerns.

deadeyedick User Profile	#6 Posted: Fri, May 24 2019, 7:30 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 03-13-2003 Posts: 17,089	Typically smoke 2+ per day for the last 20+ years. My knee hurts but the lungs are fine. Wait a minute.... whats this lump!?

Whistlebritches User Profile	#7 Posted: Fri, May 24 2019, 7:34 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 04-23-2006 Posts: 22,128	Lots of Cubans who have literally smoked cigars since the diapers came off live well into their 80's and 90's. I don't sweat it...….enjoy life,3-7 cigars per week,probably that many bowls of baccy as well, with Bourbon or Scotch.

Sunoverbeach User Profile	#8 Posted: Fri, May 24 2019, 8:38 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 08-11-2017 Posts: 14,665	I figure the benefits of relaxation/stress relief outweigh possible negative effects. Also helps those around me. Whichever arsehole at work that causes my final heart attack and/or spontaneous brain explosion will be coming with me

victor809 User Profile	#9 Posted: Fri, May 24 2019, 9:01 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 10-14-2011 Posts: 23,866	I checked... My cigars are in great health.

smokestaxx User Profile	#10 Posted: Fri, May 24 2019, 9:03 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 01-27-2012 Posts: 4,214	victor809 wrote: I checked... My cigars are in great health. Very good to hear!

frankj1 User Profile	#11 Posted: Fri, May 24 2019, 9:03 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 02-08-2007 Posts: 44,221	victor809 wrote: I checked... My cigars are in great health. that's how I interpreted the op. did you have the most expensive one look after the others while you were undoing the trade war last week?

victor809 User Profile	#12 Posted: Fri, May 24 2019, 9:14 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 10-14-2011 Posts: 23,866	Pshh. No... She would accidentally throw them out.

Mr. Jones User Profile	#13 Posted: Fri, May 24 2019, 9:37 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 06-12-2005 Posts: 19,423	Cigarlady, Are u a life insurance underwriter? Why do you care, or even ask?

Cigarlady7 User Profile	#14 Posted: Sat, May 25 2019, 6:30 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-03-2018 Posts: 1,094	Mr. Jones wrote: Cigarlady, Are u a life insurance underwriter? Why do you care, or even ask? No . I'm definitely not in insurance. It was just a question. I think about it often.

Cigarlady7

#15 Posted: Sat, May 25 2019, 6:39 AM EST

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Sunoverbeach wrote:

I figure the benefits of relaxation/stress relief outweigh possible negative effects. Also helps those around me. Whichever arsehole at work that causes my final heart attack and/or spontaneous brain explosion will be coming with me

This is the stance I take on things. The co- worker thing... I can't relate to.. BUT I do know what you mean as far as the relaxation and stress factors.

DrafterX User Profile	#16 Posted: Sat, May 25 2019, 9:29 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 10-18-2005 Posts: 98,551	TW whacks off...

vanhalenps4

#17 Posted: Sat, May 25 2019, 11:06 AM EST

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My main concern is my teeth and gums. And I do see how it could cause throat cancer because towards the end of the cigar it feels like when you're chewing snuff and swallow some of your spit.

I only smoke outside but for anyone who smokes indoors without great ventilation, you can't say "it's not as bad as cigarettes" because you are breathing it in. Cigars have nitrosimines (sp) from the fermentation that are not contained in cigarette smoke.

I smoke cigarettes and cigars so as of now I am screwed

Cigarlady7

#18 Posted: Sat, May 25 2019, 11:12 AM EST

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vanhalenps4 wrote:

Yuck. Whats the point of smoking cigars if you like cigarettes? I never understood this...

I guess to each it's own.

I worry about my mouth - gums and teeth as well. I do tend to brush more than the average person per day to avoid plaque and build up. My teeth are still perfect as of now... But when I get older... I hope this doesn't change.

vanhalenps4 User Profile	#19 Posted: Sat, May 25 2019, 1:17 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 05-01-2019 Posts: 90	I really like nicotine and tobacco in various forms. I used to like Skoal straight too back in the day but chewing has too many drawbacks. I would like to transition to only cigars soon but they're kind of inconvenient sometimes compared to five minutes for a cigarette. I roll my own so the price isn't an issue

Daaster29 User Profile	#20 Posted: Sat, May 25 2019, 3:20 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 04-09-2016 Posts: 9	I am already dead inside.

Daaster29 User Profile	#21 Posted: Sat, May 25 2019, 3:20 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 04-09-2016 Posts: 9	I am already dead inside.

Cigarlady7 User Profile	#22 Posted: Sat, May 25 2019, 3:26 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-03-2018 Posts: 1,094	Daaster29 wrote: I am already dead inside. 😦

24132413 User Profile	#23 Posted: Mon, May 27 2019, 9:38 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 01-25-2017 Posts: 556	every medical study I have seen including the FDA's has said smoking 1 to 2 stogies a day does not increase health risks by any measurable amount. Of course that all depends on where you smoke. Have to have a well ventilated area.

izonfire

#24 Posted: Mon, May 27 2019, 3:29 PM EST

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24132413 wrote:

every medical study I have seen including the FDA's has said smoking 1 to 2 stogies a day does not increase health risks by any measurable amount. Of course that all depends on where you smoke. Have to have a well ventilated area.

I've read that too, so shouldn't be much of a concern.
But I hit it pretty hard on the weekends, so I usually lay off somewhat during the week. Booze included. Nothing wrong with a little restraint

RMAN4443 User Profile	#25 Posted: Mon, May 27 2019, 3:31 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 09-29-2016 Posts: 7,683	izonfire wrote: I've read that too, so shouldn't be much of a concern. But I hit it pretty hard on the weekends, so I usually lay off somewhat during the week. Booze included. Nothing wrong with a little restraint Everything in moderation.....including moderation...

Palama

#26 Posted: Mon, May 27 2019, 3:39 PM EST

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vanhalenps4 wrote:

This might help with the taste part of your cigar experience:

http://www.cigarbid.com/...time-I-cant-distinquish

Of course iffin’ you’re always smoking something, whether it’s cigarettes or cigars, a change in toothpaste or mouthwash may not help.

izonfire

#27 Posted: Mon, May 27 2019, 3:51 PM EST

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vanhalenps4 wrote:

I really like nicotine and tobacco in various forms. I used to like Skoal straight too back in the day but chewing has too many drawbacks.

I would like to transition to only cigars soon but they're kind of inconvenient sometimes compared to five minutes for a cigarette.
I roll my own so the price isn't an issue

Quit the cigarettes STAT
Keep some cigarillos on hand for a quick puff
Never inhale - you may want to become president some day

izonfire User Profile	#28 Posted: Mon, May 27 2019, 4:18 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 12-09-2013 Posts: 8,647	Daaster29 wrote: I am already dead inside. Chin up there buckaroo Everyone knows it's not what's on the inside that counts. It's how ya look. So go get yourself some fake tiddies and be happy.

frankj1 User Profile	#29 Posted: Mon, May 27 2019, 5:34 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 02-08-2007 Posts: 44,221	izonfire wrote: Quit the cigarettes STAT or sooner even. no one smokes cigarettes anymore. and if they do, no one can stomach being near them.

Speyside

#30 Posted: Mon, May 27 2019, 7:59 PM EST

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My goodness, he caught ebola! Worse things than dead inside.

Hello?
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me
Is there anyone at home?
Come on, now
I hear you're feeling down
Well I can ease your pain
Get you on your feet again
Relax
I'll need some information first
Just the basic facts
Can you show me where it hurts?
There is no pain you are receding
A distant ship's smoke on the horizon
You are the only coming through in waves
Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying
When I was a child I had a fever
My hands felt just like two balloons
Now I've got that feeling once again
I can't explain you would not understand
This is not how I am
I have become comfortably numb
I have become comfortably numb
Okay
Just a little pinprick
There'll be no more
But you may feel a little sick
Can you stand up?
I do believe it's working good
That'll keep you going through the show
Come on it's time to go
There is no pain you are receding
A distant ship's smoke on the horizon
You are the only coming through in waves
Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying
When I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse
Out of the corner of my eye
I turned to look but it was gone
I cannot put my finger on it now
The child is grown the dream is gone
I have become comfortably numb

Hang on, it could get better.

izonfire

#31 Posted: Mon, May 27 2019, 10:15 PM EST

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Speyside wrote:

Whoa...
Pass the bong Spey

Speyside User Profile	#32 Posted: Mon, May 27 2019, 10:45 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 03-16-2015 Posts: 13,106	That's so this morning, I prefer a hookah now. Medical purposes only.

izonfire User Profile	#33 Posted: Mon, May 27 2019, 11:04 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 12-09-2013 Posts: 8,647	Fancy lad, aintcha?

izonfire User Profile	#34 Posted: Mon, May 27 2019, 11:06 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 12-09-2013 Posts: 8,647	Oh, you mean a “Boston” hookah. Gotcha

gummy jones User Profile	#35 Posted: Tue, May 28 2019, 6:23 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 07-06-2015 Posts: 7,969	im sure smoking with any significant frequency increases your risks over not smoking what is the nadir point: 5/week, 5/day, 5/morning...? not sure anyone knows definitely dont inhale my hunch that 3-5/week is almost certainly safe for an otherwise healthy person

Buckwheat User Profile	#36 Posted: Tue, May 28 2019, 7:46 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 04-15-2004 Posts: 12,251	I've certainly given it some thought. I pretty much stopped smoking cigars about 10 years ago when I had a bout of brain cancer (100% unrelated to cigars). I would hope that everyone at least isn't too flippant about the health issues of smoking in general.

dstieger User Profile	#37 Posted: Tue, May 28 2019, 10:32 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 06-22-2007 Posts: 10,889	Daaster29 wrote: I am already dead inside. Daaster29 wrote: I am already dead inside. Awesome! Way to pad your post count, Daaster! As to OP...I aint skeered. This past weekend included a LOT of fishing...I count 26 cigars..but I may have forgotten a couple

Cigarlady7

#38 Posted: Wed, May 29 2019, 2:54 PM EST

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Speyside wrote:

Great song... By that overrated band.

izonfire User Profile	#39 Posted: Wed, May 29 2019, 3:01 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 12-09-2013 Posts: 8,647	Cigarlady7 wrote: Great song... By that overrated band. OMG CL!!!!!! I let it go the first time you said it, but this time you are up for a harsh reprimand!!!

Cigarlady7 User Profile	#40 Posted: Wed, May 29 2019, 3:02 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-03-2018 Posts: 1,094	izonfire wrote: OMG CL!!!!!! I let it go the first time you said it, but this time you are up for a harsh reprimand!!! I like them jut don't love them. They get way too much credit.

delta1 User Profile	#41 Posted: Wed, May 29 2019, 3:16 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-23-2011 Posts: 28,788	that's what I think about Bob Dylan...

Cigarlady7 User Profile	#42 Posted: Wed, May 29 2019, 3:42 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-03-2018 Posts: 1,094	delta1 wrote: that's what I think about Bob Dylan... Dylan is actually not bad at all. Like him. I would go see him live if he was still around performing.

Mrs. dpnewell

#43 Posted: Wed, May 29 2019, 8:49 PM EST

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George Burns smoked 10 to 15 large cigars a day and he lived to be 100. I used to smoke 4 to 6 per day, but over the past few years have cut it down to 2 to 3, mainly due to time restraints. I'm currently 62 years old, have been smoking for over 10 years and am currently extremely healthy. But I attribute the health to doing clean low carb from 2003 to 2012. When I went back to the SAD (standard American diet) in '13, I started getting all kinds of health problems. I was starting to cough a lot while smoking and had pains in my chest among other health issues. I started clean Keto and intermittent fasting back in October and virtually all my health problems are gone as well as the coughing or chest pain while smoking. My last physical was a couple months ago. All blood work, cardio and other tests came back as exceptional.

From the research I've done recently, and doctors I've communicated with, I think the medical profession has it wrong. Sure, it's possible for smoking to contribute to cancer and heart disease for those who consume the inflammatory poisons and chemicals that pass as current main stream "food". But I do believe that diet contributes far more to cancer, heart disease and inflammatory illnesses, then does cigar smoking. Just my 2 cents.

David

Cigarlady7

#44 Posted: Wed, May 29 2019, 8:57 PM EST

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Mrs. dpnewell wrote:

I actually agree with this. I see an enormous change in energy and physical conditions since I started eating healthier. I think foods contribute more to cancers than anything.

I can't image 10 to 15 a day. That is back to back with no break. I would hate cigars if I smoked that much.

Sunoverbeach User Profile	#45 Posted: Wed, May 29 2019, 9:15 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 08-11-2017 Posts: 14,665	^^ I think foods contribute to diets too... Like 100% of the time

RMAN4443 User Profile	#46 Posted: Wed, May 29 2019, 9:40 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 09-29-2016 Posts: 7,683	Sunoverbeach wrote: ^^ I think foods contribute to diets too... Like 100% of the time Yeah, probably the only thing CL7 and I will ever agree on....food does contribute to diet....as SoB said, 100% of the time...

Cigarlady7 User Profile	#47 Posted: Wed, May 29 2019, 10:18 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-03-2018 Posts: 1,094	RMAN4443 wrote: Yeah, probably the only thing CL7 and I will ever agree on....food does contribute to diet....as SoB said, 100% of the time... Edit made.... Hater.

Cigarlady7 User Profile	#48 Posted: Wed, May 29 2019, 10:19 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-03-2018 Posts: 1,094	Sunoverbeach wrote: ^^ I think foods contribute to diets too... Like 100% of the time Fa sho! 😊😋

Cereal City Cigar Smoker User Profile	#49 Posted: Wed, May 29 2019, 10:23 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 03-30-2006 Posts: 14,587	Heridity plays a big part as well. My parents smoked cigarettes up until they died at 84. I Smoking cigars, I sb good to 85 at least unless I fly on a Boeing 737 .... I smoke anywhere between 2-20 cigars a week. The better the weather the more I can enjoy a good cigar. c3s

Cigarlady7 User Profile	#50 Posted: Wed, May 29 2019, 10:28 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-03-2018 Posts: 1,094	Cereal City Cigar Smoker wrote: Heridity plays a big part as well. My parents smoked cigarettes up until they died at 84. I Smoking cigars, I sb good to 85 at least unless I fly on a Boeing 737 .... I smoke anywhere between 2-20 cigars a week. The better the weather the more I can enjoy a good cigar. c3s Good to know my parents weren't smokers. I started this trend in the family. Lmao

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