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stinger88 Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 05-29-2012
Posts: 5,636

Not sure if this will keep it all in one big post or if I will have to break it up. All of the stuff below is in response to her owing me a 5er of premiums for a legit wager on a football game. Enjoy the reading and if you have any questions feel free to ask.

Cigarlady7 wrote:
What is your cell??

You have given it to me when I first joined. I no longer have that message.


stinger88 wrote:
Bee,

Just curious but why would I give you my number now. You have come across like a fairly untrustworthy person. Would you voluntarily give information like that to someone you don’t trust?

I am not sure what your long term game plan is on the board. Do you want to stay on it and actually be part of it? Because if you really do, than maybe explaining some of your actions would be a start. Your “I am rubber, you are glue” method to people’s accusations is worn off. People are seeing behind the curtain. Maybe it is incorrect view of you but how you have come across just makes it more and more that what we are seeing “behind the curtain” is the real you.

I don’t know all the details but as for the baseball bet with whistle....how is it possible that you think the payoff for that wager is 20 cigars? If going with that logic, does that mean you were going to send him 15 and he sends you 20? Logically, as happens all the time, 15 of those would cancel out and he owes you five. With your track record of low-balling a majority of your PIBs, etc, his 20 cigars would be leaps and bounds better than your 15 (that is a pure assumption on my part).

If you want a quick example of a lowball. Just look to our PIB (the higher end one). You completely “letter of the law” sent me the PIB. You had one that I requested then included a few that were close but ultimately a step down from the requested ones. You kept the secondary ones right on the edge of the estimated value line. With one very small, inexpensive hitchhiker. Then you get picked up by CBD and get a very nice 10er of Cuban cigars. You again come out with a positive number of cigars. If you go to the noob PIB, you notice that a lot of times you “letter of the law” it with 5 cigars sent. You then get 7-10 from someone else. Net gain to you again.

I think I am a fairly good judge of character and am pretty sure that my assumptions and actions have been correct. Feel free to reply to this how you see fit. As for me giving you my cell to possibly discuss this, I don’t foresee that happening anytime soon.

David


Cigarlady7 wrote:
Not worth the long reply. I publically put my number up so anyone could take the time to call since people seem to have so much to say. Apparently, it's all hot air because the offer was extended to talk like adults, instead of hiding behind a screen. You not giving me your number is not an upset. Goodnight.


stinger88 wrote:
Baby steps = you actually addressing what I sent via this medium.
No steps = what you have done since the beginning

If you think that posting your number on the thread is a way of opening up the communication at this point of the game, you are wrong. I refer back to my untrustworthy comments.

If you actually wanted dialogue with me you would have made a slight effort on a message. Maybe I would have called. Again, it comes off like the blame game, we didn’t call you so we are all wrong.

David


Cigarlady7 wrote:
**** you. The end.


stinger88 wrote:
That was actually pretty funny. Applause

Does that mean you will not be sending me the cigars you owe me? If that is the case, I will make it my personal responsibility to make sure that I watch for any activity on your part to either trade or wager. I will make sure to let everyone know that you refuse to honor a fair wager. I will go out of my way to further your “persona non grata” on the site.

Does that work for you?


I was actually being sincere on the funny part. She used a direct quote from a message I sent her a few weeks ago. It was when I tried to severe all contact with her. (Didn’t work)

Cigarlady7 wrote:
Works for me. Baseball is over. No more bets. As you can see, if I stopped betting on your thread a long time ago.

Oh, by the way, since I send such terrible cigars to you, why the hell would you want them??

If I was smart enough, I would have regifted the 5 pieces of **** Ron sent for his "premiums"...


This is just what the ending looked like. Hopefully this is the last we see of her on here. If not, feel free to reference this thread to remind you of the caliber of a human she is.

David.


USNGunner Online
#2 Posted:
Joined: 05-17-2019
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Wow. Just wow. All this over 5 cigars? That wouldn't be worth it to me.

Well, I guess we all walk our own path, and we always end up standing in our own footprints on that trail. They're ours, they always will be, and they stay where we leave them. On the path we chose for all to see. I think folks forget that sometimes.
stinger88 Offline
#3 Posted:
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There was more to the story before the part above. I think you can see it on the noob PIB thread. Look back a couple months. Even with that out there she did pickup my wager.
USNGunner Online
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stinger88 wrote:
There was more to the story before the part above. I think you can see it on the noob PIB thread. Look back a couple months. Even with that out there she did pickup my wager.


I saw that.

I've been coming aware for awhile. When I got here I spent a lot of time going back and reading old threads. A lot of them. I'm a huge fan of tradition and protocols. "Don't reinvent the wheel!"

So when it started getting wierd I got a hinky vibe and went back and looked at her history here. The way she backed out of the Noob Trade Thread #46 when she didn't get paired with the vet she wanted but came right back in when she got the "my vet" she had picked. It hit me as narcissistic behavior at best. The rest of it since seems to fall in line with that.

It's too bad. But it is what it is. Glare
Palama Online
#5 Posted:
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Posts: 12,897
USNGunner wrote:
Wow. Just wow. All this over 5 cigars? That wouldn't be worth it to me.

Well, I guess we all walk our own path, and we always end up standing in our own footprints on that trail. They're ours, they always will be, and they stay where we leave them. On the path we chose for all to see. I think folks forget that sometimes.


I think she knew her time here was gonna end soon so burning another bridge was no big deal. I believe in karma so what goes around comes around. Ultimately when she’s standing in front of St. Peter and he stamps “Entrance Denied” on her Heaven card, who’s gonna get the last laugh?

By the way, I don’t, for a second, believe she believes in an afterlife... and if she does, doesn’t mind coming back as a dung fly.
JadeRose Offline
#6 Posted:
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I give no **** about any of this other than to say, I got hit by Whistle many years ago and when you get hit by Whistle, you stay hit. You get no "pieces of $hit" smokes. Generous BOTL that has been around a long time.
Mr. Jones Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 06-12-2005
Posts: 11,247
Is this CL7 ? The chick who likes "slasher horror film's"
And football?
Pudding Mittens Offline
#8 Posted:
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JadeRose wrote:
I give no **** about any of this

Nor do I, because I don't send to, receive from or trade with people here, or with Internet people in general, at all.

It's interesting to read the drama, though.
.
izonfire Offline
#9 Posted:
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
Nor do I, because I don't send to, receive from or trade with people here, or with Internet people in general, at all.

It's interesting to read the drama, though.
.

So we’re just “Internet people” to you, huh?
Udderly sour and callous Puddin!!!

Next, you’re gonna tell us you’re not really a smoking bovine...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#10 Posted:
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Said it from the get go... Chicks a dude, bro...
Abrignac Offline
#11 Posted:
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Dude looks like a lady
bgz Offline
#12 Posted:
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Man, that sucks. Always sucks to see slimy traders. Stinger got clout too, if he says you suck, then you're probably a hoover... and not much more than that.
stinger88 Offline
#13 Posted:
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Thing is, 5 cigars are no big deal, it is a matter of principle. Represents her character.
Numismaniac Offline
#14 Posted:
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hehe, what character?!?!
stinger88 Offline
#15 Posted:
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Exactly.
Whistlebritches Offline
#16 Posted:
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If I were to add the crap she sent me over what she said was owed her "by her rules"..........that would be a page in itself
Whistlebritches Offline
#17 Posted:
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Oh yea...........Wrong Forum Noob


That being said how bout a duplicate post in the Trades Forum just to make sure all see this
stinger88 Offline
#18 Posted:
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Its a cigar discussion....kinda.
Palama Online
#19 Posted:
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Cigars were to be exchanged so yah, it fits this particular forum.
Whistlebritches Offline
#20 Posted:
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Well let's clear this right up

CL7 said "If I was smart enough, I would have regifted the 5 pieces of **** Ron sent for his "premiums"... "


Exactly what I sent

2x EP Carrillo 2011 Short Run Canonazos
2x EP Carrillo 2012 Short Run Exquisito's
1x EP Carrillo Cabinet Petit Corona Gorda from 2017

All good sticks,all absolutely meet the definition of premium...…...Now let's be honest,these weren't what she was fishing for and I knew that when I sent them.I only sent 5,haven't done that since I was a noob,because she she was not only fishing for quality but quanity as well.In all honesty these are better sticks than what she was ending out as "premiums"...…..at least the ones from her stash.What little high end stuff she sent out was sticks she was regifting,fishing if you will for someone to drop the bomb on her.

So to CL7 I say...……………..go **** yourself,doubtful anyone else would want to anyway,and good riddance
izonfire Offline
#21 Posted:
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Somethin’ smells very fishy...
borndead1 Offline
#22 Posted:
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Posts: 4,779
She has several positive trade feedback in the asylum. Weird that she has disappointed here.
dstieger Offline
#23 Posted:
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CA is a way different place. You gotta really be an over the top douche to get called out. A subtle-ish mooch will get gradually ignored or sidelined. Noobs are given a lot of latitude.
izonfire Offline
#24 Posted:
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borndead1 wrote:
She has several positive trade feedback in the asylum. Weird that she has disappointed here.

So you’re saying the asylum is a good place for her to be?
kombat96 Offline
#25 Posted:
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Is that where the 32 other ppl are in a Secret santa?
gummy jones Offline
#26 Posted:
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dang she has yall smitten
izonfire Offline
#27 Posted:
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borndead1 wrote:
She has several positive trade feedback in the asylum. Weird that she has disappointed here.

So you're disputing the experiences of Britches?
...and Stinger?
...and Palama?
...and Kombat?
...and Corey?
...and others???
dkeage Offline
#28 Posted:
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kombat96 wrote:
Is that where the 32 other ppl are in a Secret santa?

Great minds....Applause
Palama Online
#29 Posted:
Joined: 02-05-2013
Posts: 12,897
To help pile onto Stinger’s assertion that CL7 gets more than she receives and that her sending is (...almost always...) “letter of the law” and she ends up with a net gain, let me entertain youse wid sum numbahs:

Note, these were taken directly from the nOOb PIB thread and listed with date received, who sent (...or were sent to...) and how many cigars were received or sent:

Received by her:

4/29 - Stinger - 8 smokes
5/9 - Mikey 8991 - 10
5/20 - ACasazza - 8
6/5 - Lance4824 - 11 + cigar bags
7/8 - CoreySellers - 8 + lighter
8/21 - USNGunner - 10
10/1 - SirKnight - 7
11/7 - ClintCigar - 10

CL7 sent out:

5/3 - Sunoverbeach - 5 smokes
6/4 - AKDave - 5
7/8 - Robear27 - 5
8/20 - ClintCigar - 6
10/1 - AKDave - 7
10/30 - Sunoverbeach - 5

Totals:

Sent to her - 8x 72 total cigars + cigar bags + a lighter
Sent by her - 6x 33 total cigars

As David said in the OP, she has certainly “lowballed” and “letter of the law’d” each of her sends but gained over 2x in cigars and, after drilling down and reviewing each of her sends, the quality of what she received was definitely much better than what she sent out.

Additionally, I found it interesting that other than ClintCigar, she never once “returned fire” - not that she was required to but you’d think she’d at least reciprocate, in some way, the generosity shown her. However, even when she did reciprocate and send to Clint, she sent 1 less than what she received. I also suspect that she sent to AKDave twice in the hopes of him returning fire and sending her a bunch of smokes but also one of his super nice ashtrays.

So yup, CL7, we’re on to your game. Why don’t you make like a drum and beat it. Begone!

But, I know you won’t leave, you’re too stubborn to face the truth that you’re not wanted or liked here. Either that or you truly are a box of rocks (...that enjoys being kicked...). I vote for the latter.
stinger88 Offline
#30 Posted:
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She is doing the same on CA. She sends so-so cigars and gets pummeled with nice aged koobans. What a POS.
dkeage Offline
#31 Posted:
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We had a nasty cat that used to come around. I asked the wife, " why does this skank keep coming back?" She says, cuz I've been feeding it. I said, stop that! She did.......no more skank.....


Just saying....



Beer
borndead1 Offline
#32 Posted:
Joined: 11-07-2006
Posts: 4,779
izonfire wrote:
So you're disputing the experiences of Britches?
...and Stinger?
...and Palama?
...and Kombat?
...and Corey?
...and others???



I'm not disputing anything. I guess I should have been more clear. It's weird that she thinks it's OK to be like that on this forum, but not CA.
KingoftheCove Offline
#33 Posted:
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BD..........looks like she IS doing “that” on CA....
stinger88 Offline
#34 Posted:
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Posts: 5,636
Palama wrote:
To help pile onto Stinger’s assertion that CL7 gets more than she receives and that her sending is (...almost always...) “letter of the law” and she ends up with a net gain, let me entertain youse wid sum numbahs:

Note, these were taken directly from the nOOb PIB thread and listed with date received, who sent (...or were sent to...) and how many cigars were received or sent:

Received by her:

4/29 - Stinger - 8 smokes
5/9 - Mikey 8991 - 10
5/20 - ACasazza - 8
6/5 - Lance4824 - 11 + cigar bags
7/8 - CoreySellers - 8 + lighter
8/21 - USNGunner - 10
10/1 - SirKnight - 7
11/7 - ClintCigar - 10

CL7 sent out:

5/3 - Sunoverbeach - 5 smokes
6/4 - AKDave - 5
7/8 - Robear27 - 5
8/20 - ClintCigar - 6
10/1 - AKDave - 7
10/30 - Sunoverbeach - 5

Totals:

Sent to her - 8x 72 total cigars + cigar bags + a lighter
Sent by her - 6x 33 total cigars

As David said in the OP, she has certainly “lowballed” and “letter of the law’d” each of her sends but gained over 2x in cigars and, after drilling down and reviewing each of her sends, the quality of what she received was definitely much better than what she sent out.

Additionally, I found it interesting that other than ClintCigar, she never once “returned fire” - not that she was required to but you’d think she’d at least reciprocate, in some way, the generosity shown her. However, even when she did reciprocate and send to Clint, she sent 1 less than what she received. I also suspect that she sent to AKDave twice in the hopes of him returning fire and sending her a bunch of smokes but also one of his super nice ashtrays.

So yup, CL7, we’re on to your game. Why don’t you make like a drum and beat it. Begone!

But, I know you won’t leave, you’re too stubborn to face the truth that you’re not wanted or liked here. Either that or you truly are a box of rocks (...that enjoys being kicked...). I vote for the latter.


I didn’t want to admit that I calculated the same stuff. 👍🏻👍🏻
corey sellers Offline
#35 Posted:
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What about all the cigars CelticBomber sent her also.
stinger88 Offline
#36 Posted:
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She has received plenty more cigars....either RAOK or Noob/Vet trade. On those alone she is up nearly 200....yes 200 cigars +swag.

Let’s roughly say $7 per cigar.....the above is the equivalent of $1400. And I think that is on the low side.
Whistlebritches Offline
#37 Posted:
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stinger88 wrote:
She has received plenty more cigars....either RAOK or Noob/Vet trade. On those alone she is up nearly 200....yes 200 cigars +swag.

Let’s roughly say $7 per cigar.....the above is the equivalent of $1400. And I think that is on the low side.



Same thing going on over at CA
Palama Online
#38 Posted:
Joined: 02-05-2013
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stinger88 wrote:
I didn’t want to admit that I calculated the same stuff. 👍🏻👍🏻


I figured you did but thought an actual listing of her dealings on the nOOb PIB would be indisputable and no comeback could justify her actions.
Numismaniac Offline
#39 Posted:
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Glad my intuitions are still pretty good. I haven't been on much lately, maybe a couple of years. BUT, when I got back on, I browsed though a few threads and smelled a rat real quickly. I'm not one to make snap judgements as quickly as when I was younger, but this one was pretty easy.

Now, I honestly sent many a cigar during my first few years here, and never really expected anything in return. I actually got away with sending cigars out to guys and gals on here without my return address for around a year or more, hehe!

I still stay in touch with a few of the folks from here via Facebook and Instagram. Even via text and phone call with some as well. In person, I don't meet a stranger and if you don't want to get "held up" for awhile on the phone, best not call most of the time, BWAHAHAHA! I can tell tales and escapades for DAYS. A few here are witness to that. CB, Jnic, et al. Jnic and I text on a regular basis. I try and keep up with Busa as well. Plan on visiting with him next October, while in Florida. If things fall in place, I will make the two plus hour trip to Nashville next May, I think, to meet up with Lou2row. Looking forward to that one as well.


Sad to see that "it" received that much value in cigars before she got caught in her own trap. IF, she's truly a female or not, matters very little. I lost count on the amount of various forums that I may have signed dup for, but this is the only one that I still get on and hold in the highest regards. I've met up with a handful of folks on here and each time, it was always a treat and good experience. The only other spot that I'm involved in is a Fakebook group called the "Dark Side of the Leaf", and that's mainly for the degenerate meme's and regular "sword fights", hehe. I have also maintained my S&S membership, but I have trouble staying signed on and can't hardly ever get a post to actually post because I'm constantly getting thrown back to the sign on page as soon as I try and post.

This place will always be my cigar home and I enjoy the comedy. I still admit that if it hadn't been for a failed cervical fusion and the CRAZY drugs from post surgery, I would HAVE NEVER been involved with any forum, a temporary moment of mental weakness. It's not like I have that much going on in my head as is, hehe! If not for my Grandson and his battle with cancer, I would still not have a Facebook account, but such is life and I have to make the best of every situation.
stinger88 Offline
#40 Posted:
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Glad to see you on here. Still remember your tobacco growing phase. 😀
delta1 Offline
#41 Posted:
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Mark made a mark here, corny as that sounds...
Numismaniac Offline
#42 Posted:
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hehe, I'm always glad when I see your posts with family and fishing, Al
Numismaniac Offline
#43 Posted:
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stinger88 wrote:
Glad to see you on here. Still remember your tobacco growing phase. 😀



I've considered growing a few more plants, Lou2row made some really cool ash trays with some very large leaves that I sent to him!
kombat96 Offline
#44 Posted:
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She's seen this, no reply either. That is surprising.
Palama Online
#45 Posted:
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kombat96 wrote:
She's seen this, no reply either. That is surprising.


Well, given her (...purported...) degree in Communications, she’s probably formulating a suitable response that will deflect away from her conniving ways and place blame on those that sent her more than 5. After all, it’s “in the rules” would be a point she could bring up to shield herself. A thin defense that no Marketing (...her claimed Minor...) agency could ever sell to us.
ZRX1200 Offline
#46 Posted:
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Posts: 50,340
A communications major? After reading the PMs she sent Whistlebritches that’s laughable not knowing from what school.....

Trump University?
Palama Online
#47 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
A communications major? After reading the PMs she sent Whistlebritches that’s laughable not knowing from what school.....

Trump University?


Taken directly from the nOOb PIB:

Cigarlady7 wrote:
My major was Communications and minor was marketing.

That's pretty good.. Congrats.

kombat96 Offline
#48 Posted:
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Thought she was in real estate.
KingoftheCove Offline
#49 Posted:
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Eh................yeah..............she owns multiple properties and retired at 30 (her own words)...
Yet, for some reason, feels the need to get the "edge" on trades, etc., and take advantage of good botl on multiple boards?

Weak sauce..........shame on you CL7...
Palama Online
#50 Posted:
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Eh................yeah..............she owns multiple properties and retired at 30 (her own words)...
Yet, for some reason, feels the need to get the "edge" on trades, etc., and take advantage of good botl on multiple boards?

Weak sauce..........shame on you CL7...


It’s how the rich stay rich (...or in her case, get richer...).

And although she (...claims...) has those multiple properties, she won’t tell you where ‘cause there’s always the threat that someone from the board will taint or destroy them!

She’s shameless and seems to thrive on the negative attention so calling her out won’t work on her conscience (...assuming she has one...). Gonz
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