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The vast majority of my experiences with police have been negative. I've had cops violate my Fourth Amendment rights more times than I can count. I've had a cop push me against a wall HARD and tell me to shut the f*ck up simply for asking why I was being (illegally) stopped and frisked. I've had cops point guns at me not once, but twice in my life. I've had a cop say to me, 'I'll take you into an alley and shoot you in the f*cking head and nobody will give a sh*t because you're a scumbag'.

I also have several friends whose experiences with police have been almost all negative. Despite the fact that most white people deny it, 'driving while black' is actually a thing. I had a black friend from England actually move back to England from L.A. because the LAPD hassled him so much. Black guy with dreds driving a BMW? He must be a criminal. Every few months, he'd get pulled over for no reason and have his car torn apart by the LAPD.

My point is that I understand where all the hatred for cops comes from. If you're white and/or you live in a good neighborhood, you get treated differently by cops, especially big city cops. There are literally dozens of studies that prove this fact with simple math and demographics.

BUT...you as an employee don't get to decide which customers you can refuse to serve. Despite my personal opinion of cops, Starbucks should fire the employee.

several large areas in the metro L.A. county area, patrolled by LAPD and LASO are notorious for over-aggressive police tactics...sure, the police are peace-keepers and symbols of the law, but are largely reviled by the people they supposedly protect and serve...

of course there are gangs, drug dealers and street thugs there, but they dominate an area where there is a majority of everyday hard working poor people, and the cops often don't try to discern the difference between the good folks and the bad, and treat everybody like a potential threat...

I've known several cops who worked those streets and the disrespect runs both ways...not a recipe for success, but an explanation for occasional riots that happen in those neighborhoods when an incendiary event happens...

Or hold Black Lives Matter rallies that lead to cops getting shot...

It would be great if we could weed out the bad cops. I think we all agree with that.

But in the meantime, disrespecting all LEO's is as counterproductive as one can be.

If a cop acts inappropriately, grin and bear it.
Make a formal complaint afterwards.
Isn't it better to deal with a brief moment of humility than to have it escalate to a situation?

Big picture.
Forrest for the trees.
And all that.



Meanwhile, it's almost (I said almost) comical how people in certain areas are so willing to accept crime lords and thugs and punks in their neighborhood, but gawd forbid a policeman wants a cuppa at the local.

UPDATE: The involved baristas were told that the two Deputies were both engaged is a same sex marriage with each other. The baristas where actually refusing service on religious grounds.

Which is fully endorsed by Fox News.

As you were boys...

That's laughable, because I was most frequently harassed by cops when I lived in an uppity neighborhood. At least once a month for the entire year I lived there. Twice in one month by the same cop who, when I asked why he was pulling me over again, ordered me and my ex wife out of the truck and handcuffed us in order to search my vehicle with no probable cause. His partner went along with all of it, and therein lies the problem: because of that 'thin blue line' nonsense, good cops don't make enough of an effort to get rid of the bad cops. It's the same type of mentality that keeps bad teachers in their jobs. Public sector unions suck. Especially police unions.

I'm IN a union and I am not a fan of unions.

So cops stop you and your wife in a good neighborhood with no probable cause.
And then they handcuff you both?

Something tells me there's more to the story.

Your brake light is out, your license plate light is out/too dim, you “look like” someone.....

Bad experiences here with cops too and I’ve never done anything to bring it out in them. I used to respect the hell out of them but they earned my distrust.

It’s their vacuum chamber of omertà and thinking they are right and holy. As long as you forfeit your rights to them you should be good though.

Filing a complaint against the KCPD or (especially) the little towns around here is laughable and draws retribution. I don’t doubt MACS experience in his area but it’s just naive around here. I used to believe that as long as you are doing nothing wrong you are fine with the popo. Not so much. And there is no recourse, the deck is stacked.

I hold them to a higher standard given the authority and power we give to them. Yes I expect them to act differently than the criminals and thugs.

My next door neighbor is a state trooper and I have a couple friends that are cops. I’d rather have them on my side then against me. They tell plenty of stories of what they think is ok or funny and I think is abuse of power. It’s all perspective. They think it’s ok, therefor it is.

One of my favorites is the sheriffs son that flies through the neighborhood in his souped up POS car. Prolly 50-55 in a 25. After plenty of complaints the Sheriff finally had to arrest the guy down the street for stepping in to the street and yelling at the kid. The kid still does it. Ahhh good times.

See, that's the thing, MACS. I've been driving for almost 30 years and the only tickets I've ever gotten were a seatbelt ticket (deserved) and a jaywalking ticket (technically deserved, but if I were dressed nice and living in Beverly Hills it probably wouldn't have happened). I don't speed, I don't drink and drive, always use my signal, etc. The worst of my experiences were at the hands of LAPD (stop and frisk for no reason, the death threat, the violent throw against a wall) and La Crescenta PD (stopped more than 10 times in 1 year, the douche who handcuffed me).

Don't misunderstand me. I don't HATE cops, but I don't trust them and I get nervous as f*ck whenever I interact with them based on my negative experiences. And I understand why some people hate cops. Especially people of color. Several of the times I've been harassed by cops were when I was with a non-white friend.

It is a , not even sure there's a word for it, but they will defend each other... can be good or bad.. i almost followed Dad and Grandpa into law enforcement... damn close... i felt I'd prolly be too lenient and that might not go well.. i could have been wrong... bustin heads became unacceptable tho... cause of the war and stuff..

There was once an elderly and wise gentleman who lived in a village. He would often spend his days sitting in the shade of a big tree in the center of the village, reading books and talking to passersby. One day, a traveler came upon his village and stopped and said, “Old man, I have been traveling across the countryside, and I have seen many things and met many people. Can you tell me what kind of people I will find in your village?”

The elderly gentleman looked up at him and replied, “Certainly I can, but first tell me what kind of people you have found on your travels.”

The traveler scowled and said, “Old man, I have met people who cheat, steal, and aren’t kind to strangers, and people who don’t look out for one another.”

The elderly gentleman looked up and, with a faint look of sadness in his eyes, said, “Oh my friend, those are the people you will find in my village.” The traveler kicked the dirt under his feet, scoffed, and marched off towards the village.

By and by, as the elderly gentleman continued to enjoy his day, another traveler came walking through the village. Once again, the traveler stopped and asked, “Please kind sir, I have been traveling across the countryside, and I have seen many things and met many people. Can you tell me what kind of people I will find in your village?” The elderly gentleman said, “Certainly I can, but first tell me what kind of people you have found in your travels.”

he traveler replied, “I have found people who are kind and welcoming of strangers, people who care for one another, and people who love. These are the people I have met in my travels.”

The elderly gentleman looked up and, with the faintest smile in his eyes, said, “My friend, those are the people you will find in my village.”




Just sayin.

...just saying...

To hell with "STREET COPS" ON THEIR "BEATS"....

THEY DONT SCARE ME ONE BIT...

NOT ONE EYEEEE-OHHHH-TAHHHH

N.O.W....

IF??

YOU GET 100 FBI-SSG AGENTS STAYING AT A HOTEL LESS THAN A MILE FROM YOUR H.U.T. then about 25 more north, 25 more south, 25 more east and 25 more west...(200 FBI AGENTS total) ...MALE , FEMALE, GIMPS, bald queballs, & fat sadistic murdering pricks like Gary O'Connor, OLD farts, librarian looking skanks,YOUNG, LANCASTER SCHOOL OF THE BIBLE NUTJOBS, GOOD LOOKING young gash , UGLY ones, ANY AND ALL RACES..plus early released felons under their FBI THUMBS TOO...

who follow YOU 24-7-365 FOR 18 MONTHS straight...
Then weekly, bi weekly, monthly for another 4+++ years when they feel like it...

INFILTRATE WORKERS into any and all businesses you frequent daily, weekly....AND THEY ALL GANGSTALK THE PISS OUT OF YOU DAY IN... DAY OUT...over 9+ outright murder attempts on my life, verbal harrassment at restaurants, bars, stores, banks, groceries, everywhere I went...everyday...

That is called law enforcement persecution...

12 traffic stops in a year???

That is wrong ...for sure...
And I feel for ya...really...

But it ain't N.O.T.H.I.N.' LIKE I HAVE SURVIVED THROUGH SINCE SEPT. 9, 2012 TILL NOW ..2020...

I DONT TRUST ANY FREAKIN' COP or federal "law enforcement" officer...no way

Maybe they were refused service for being openly-straight.

This whole Diversity thing can only go so far.

Well since we are always looking for one unrelated thing that can either nullify or justify things there is this


A Kansas police officer who initially claimed McDonald's employees wrote "F*****g pig" on his cup has resigned, the city's police chief said.

"In (our) investigation we have found that McDonald's and its employees did not have anything whatsoever to do with this incident, this was completely and solely fabricated by a Herington police officer who is no longer employed with our agency," Herington Police Department Chief Brian Hornaday said in a news conference Monday.

The incident, the chief said, has been an "obvious violation of ... public trust." "Our job is solely to do this job with the utmost integrity because if you can't trust the cops, who can you trust," he said.

After McDonald's conducted its own investigation, the owner and operator of the Junction City franchise said in a statement the fast food chain was "glad that the evidence confirmed our evaluation that McDonald's and our crew members were absolutely not involved."

"We took seriously our role to be transparent and fully cooperative with Chief Hornaday throughout his investigation, and we look forward to continuing a strong relationship with the department," Dana Cook said.

The police chief said the department's investigation concluded that the incident was "meant to be a joke."
He did not release the officer's name, saying the matter was now "a personnel issue." He said the officer was a resident of Junction City and had been with the department for about two months. He is not facing any criminal charges at this time, Hornaday said.

A 'black eye' on law enforcement, chief says
Hornaday told CNN the officer involved in the incident sent him a picture of the marked cup on Saturday through a text message. The chief then uploaded it to Facebook from his personal account.

Before learning that the officer's story was made up, Hornaday called the incident a "black eye for Junction City."
On Monday, he said, "now, this is absolutely a black eye on law enforcement."

"I truly hope that the former officer ... that did this, I hope he understands the magnitude of the black eye that this gives the law enforcement profession from coast to coast," he said. "None of us can be excluded from that."

The chief added he will now "often question my decision about posting anything on social media because of the impact that it could have."

"Moving forward the Herington Police Department will work tirelessly to regain the loss of trust with both McDonald's and with the citizens that we serve and any other person that this may have affected.

More and more we live in a “ends justify the means” world. It does not matter what lie is told as long as the narrative pushes your ideals.

Cops are good people and cops are bad people - because they are people. But it always helps to frame them as being largely the same when pushing a view point.

Odd how autocorrect turns popo in to poop.

They hate America. My politicians of choice are the only ones that don’t hate America and don’t want to destroy our way of life. That simply logical.

Another roundabout way of saying people who are treated like sh*t by cops are asking for it.

Or we're smart enough to not try to use parables and sayings as an argument.

You didn't understand it.
So it's my fault for posting it.

You wear your snowflake well in the new year.