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So it’s flooding here
fishinguitarman Offline
#1 Posted:
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The Pearl River at Jackson is supposed to crest at 38’

The highest since ‘83

People are already evacuating

We live very close to the Reservoir but we’re good so far
Mr. Jones Offline
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Hope your area stays safe...

Flooding is way more prevalent in the Midwest and south lately...
fishinguitarman Offline
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Yeah that’s true. Why is that? Seriously
delta1 Offline
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ask Greta...


stay dry, FGM...seriously...pay attention to flash flood alerts...
USNGunner Offline
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fishinguitarman wrote:
Yeah that’s true. Why is that? Seriously



Too much water? Think
delta1 Offline
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d'oh!
fishinguitarman Offline
#7 Posted:
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Never thought about that
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Good luck and stay safe.
frankj1 Offline
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USNGunner wrote:
Too much water? Think

just spit mine!
USNGunner Offline
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On a serious note, stay safe Ray! I grew up on the Mississippi up here, Flood was a season. It's no joke.
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Much love Ray 🙏🏻 For you and yours.
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Stay safe Ray.
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Floods suck.

Hope you stay dry.

Get out if you have to, but put as much as you can in plastic totes.
fishinguitarman Offline
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Thanks everybody I’m 🙏 too
jjanecka Offline
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El fūckiing Niño
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Rain yesterday after some snow, froze last night and will stay that way until Sunday PM. May it 0 tomorrow AM.
Gene363 Offline
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Stay dry.

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fishinguitarman wrote:
Thanks everybody I’m 🙏 too



We have been getting almost record rainfalls for the 3rd year on a row. West Tn is part of the Gulf Coastal Plain, average from 200-300 ft above sea level and gets more rainfall than the other side of the State, but this is some serious rounds of Mother Nature cleaning her bladder, LMAO!

Stay safe, turn around, don't drown, is the word. Honestly one of the coolest situations was a couple of years ago when they knew that the Army Corp of Engineers was gonna have to open up a floodplain area that has become more inhabited by humans over the last couple of decades. One guy with a nice house bought a bunch of those "GIANT water bladders created for making a Coffer dam and saved his home by doing so!!
fishinguitarman Offline
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More rain M-Th
delta1 Offline
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dammmit...what's the old Morton salt saying? when it rains...it pours


not intentionally putting salt on your wound, FGM
fishinguitarman Offline
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Lmao ! No worries
izonfire Offline
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fishinguitarman wrote:
The Pearl River at Jackson is supposed to crest at 38’

The highest since ‘83

People are already evacuating

We live very close to the Reservoir but we’re good so far

Prayers that your property stays dry
Speyside Offline
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Keep you and yours safe Ray. Possesions can be replaced. People can't.
Abrignac Offline
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Sorry to hear this Ray. I remember the ‘83 flooding. Only the 2016 floods have been worse.
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I remember years ago after attending my first Fishin-herf water was high everywhere.. the wife and i stayed a couple days at a lake just north of Vicksburg after ther herf.. drove thru about 6" of water getting to the campground and about 18" of water when we left... wish i could remember the place.. it was cool.. the Mannings have a place close by and frequent the bar there... Mellow
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fishinguitarman wrote:
Lmao ! No worries

you need some speedy-dri?
Abrignac Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
you need some speedy-dri?


A thong bathing suit would be appropriate
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Abrignac wrote:
A thong depends would be appropriate


fresh out, dude. Sorry.
USNGunner Offline
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I'm packing my banana hammock for the fishinherf! Will there be hotties?! ThumpUp
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fishinguitarman wrote:
Yeah that’s true. Why is that? Seriously




Welcome to the new normal. Whether people wish to believe it or not, the climate is changing. I live a few miles from the I-29/Missouri River corridor that runs from Omaha to about St. Joseph Missouri. It has been in a flood state for going on 2 years now. If you drive the corridor, you are driving in a river valley with bluffs on either side several miles apart. In other words, you are driving (or living, farming, etc.) in a flood plain. I've lived here for 12 years now and we have had either 4 or 5 "500 year" floods and "100 year" floods nearly every other year. People's homes have been destroyed multiple times and yet they still go back. Everyone blames the Army Corp of Engineers but the reality is that this is a natural flood plain and there is NOTHING that humans can do to stop it. Warmer temperatures, more rain and snow up north pretty much guarantees that this area will flood. I have a feeling this year will be really really bad as flood waters from LAST spring still have not completely receded. I'm not here to argue WHY any of this is happening but it IS happening. Cities like Miami, New Orleans, Houston, etc., are pretty much f*cked.

It might sound heartless but I do not want my tax dollars going towards bailing out people that continue to live in areas like the corridor close to where I live. If you live somewhere that is constantly flooding and you wish to stay..you are on your own.
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heartless bassard... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
heartless bassard... Mellow





Yep.....I'm against Socialism for dipshits.
Gene363 Offline
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JadeRose wrote:
Welcome to the new normal. Whether people wish to believe it or not, the climate is changing. I live a few miles from the I-29/Missouri River corridor that runs from Omaha to about St. Joseph Missouri. It has been in a flood state for going on 2 years now. If you drive the corridor, you are driving in a river valley with bluffs on either side several miles apart. In other words, you are driving (or living, farming, etc.) in a flood plain. I've lived here for 12 years now and we have had either 4 or 5 "500 year" floods and "100 year" floods nearly every other year. People's homes have been destroyed multiple times and yet they still go back. Everyone blames the Army Corp of Engineers but the reality is that this is a natural flood plain and there is NOTHING that humans can do to stop it. Warmer temperatures, more rain and snow up north pretty much guarantees that this area will flood. I have a feeling this year will be really really bad as flood waters from LAST spring still have not completely receded. I'm not here to argue WHY any of this is happening but it IS happening. Cities like Miami, New Orleans, Houston, etc., are pretty much f*cked.

It might sound heartless but I do not want my tax dollars going towards bailing out people that continue to live in areas like the corridor close to where I live. If you live somewhere that is constantly flooding and you wish to stay..you are on your own.


It's not heartless, it is reality. The river owns the flood plane all the way to and sometimes beyond the 500 year flood line. More and more i see houses being built in questionable low areas that will be flooded, it's only a matter of time.

Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different results.
USNGunner Offline
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I grew up in a little river town on the mississippi river. As i mentioned earlier, flood was a season. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter, Flood, Spring............ etc.

It flooded so bad in 65 they finally built levees, but only around the notrh side by the creek that runs there and the river front past the downtown. They left the southern lower timber/marsh areas open as a spillway so there was still room for the water to spread vs rise and take some pressure off the levees. That was one of the old boys idea, the corps of engineers scoffed at the time my dad said, but it worked. That time

Flash forward to the late 90's. Another 500 year flood. Al Gore landed his helicopter on that levee. But the river got higher and went around. Levees failed. Wiped out Jackson street. They labeled it a flood plain and razed it. Folks weren't happy, but it becomes obvious at a point a position isn't viable and you need to relocate.

Same on these high end homes that the hurricanes take out. There is a reason they can't buy insurance for that. It's not insurance at that point. It's shifting the rebuild cost to your fellow citizens. That doesn't seem cricket either.

I get it, but it is what it is.
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I read an article about BP admitting the climate was changing and that oil and gas production contributes. That admission is evidenced by their "net zero" goals for its oil and gas production business by 2050.

If the industry giant is facing the truth, wonder when the deniers will....
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Gene363 wrote:
It's not heartless, it is reality. The river owns the flood plane all the way to and sometimes beyond the 500 year flood line. More and more i see houses being built in questionable low areas that will be flooded, it's only a matter of time.

Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different results.


Dave that’s a rather simplistic view of things. I can speak from the other side. My hometown floods every year, but we’ve only had 3 major floods in my 54 years on this planet. The last one in 2016 saw my home flooded with about 5’ of water. Why did I stay? This is my home. This is where my friends live. This is where my father and grandparents Rest In Peace. My roots here are very deep.

Money was allocated decades ago to dredge the Amite and Comite rivers, yet the Corps of Engineers have not done that. Some engineer at the Highway Department thought it was a good idea to build a 20 mile long, six feet concrete barrier on I-12. In 2016 water was beginning to top the barriers. Had that not been the case I doubt the 2016 flood would have been nearly as devastating.
Gene363 Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
Dave that’s a rather simplistic view of things. I can speak from the other side. My hometown floods every year, but we’ve only had 3 major floods in my 54 years on this planet. The last one in 2016 saw my home flooded with about 5’ of water. Why did I stay? This is my home. This is where my friends live. This is where my father and grandparents Rest In Peace. My roots here are very deep.

Money was allocated decades ago to dredge the Amite and Comite rivers, yet the Corps of Engineers have not done that. Some engineer at the Highway Department thought it was a good idea to build a 20 mile long, six feet concrete barrier on I-12. In 2016 water was beginning to top the barriers. Had that not been the case I doubt the 2016 flood would have been nearly as devastating.


I can certainly appreciate the desire to maintain ones roots. The problem is wanting other tax payers to foot the bill to continue living in a flood zone. It's no different when someone builds a beachfront home and gets Federally underwritten insurance to cover the inevitable time when the ocean takes back the beach.
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Abrignac wrote:
Dave that’s a rather simplistic view of things. I can speak from the other side. My hometown floods every year, but we’ve only had 3 major floods in my 54 years on this planet. The last one in 2016 saw my home flooded with about 5’ of water. Why did I stay? This is my home. This is where my friends live. This is where my father and grandparents Rest In Peace. My roots here are very deep.

Money was allocated decades ago to dredge the Amite and Comite rivers, yet the Corps of Engineers have not done that. Some engineer at the Highway Department thought it was a good idea to build a 20 mile long, six feet concrete barrier on I-12. In 2016 water was beginning to top the barriers. Had that not been the case I doubt the 2016 flood would have been nearly as devastating.


Yeah, the corps of engineers. Our government here to help. d'oh! There are more and more of those barriers going up, to protect homes that were built in known low lying areas, and that is exacerbating the problem. Channeling that water into smaller channels that cause the rivers to back up and flood even more.

I hear where you're coming from. Same deal in my home town, my grandparents both ended up relocating in the 60's to new homes because where they were was just not viable anymore. The homes were trashed and they knew it wasn't going to be the last time. But home is home. I would not go for the occasional severe flood. I get it.

My point is when you can go back and look at historical maps, and there are areas called out as flood plains, and folks are building new homes in those areas, it's a low percentage operation.
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Gene363 wrote:
I can certainly appreciate the desire to maintain ones roots. The problem is wanting other tax payers to foot the bill to continue living in a flood zone. It's no different when someone builds a beachfront home and gets Federally underwritten insurance to cover the inevitable time when the ocean takes back the beach.


Last year I did some flood insurance adjusting so I can from experience. In the past FEMA would in fact cover repeated losses to the same dwellings. However, that trend is changing. If a structure repeatedly has losses an audit was required. In addition, if communities don’t enforce building guidelines the premiums will skyrocket. For the first time I’m seeing homes here abandoned because FEMA is making it difficult, or not possible for dwellings with repeated losses to participate.

After the 2016 flood our mayor was adamant about getting our community into a preferred risk class to keep premiums from going to the moon. Every home that filed a FEMA claim was inspected by the city building inspector. Any home considered to have major damage (damages representing more than 50% of the home’s market value) would only be permitted if it’s lowest floor was one foot above the base elevation. If the dwelling could not be permitted it was condemned.
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USNGunner wrote:
Yeah, the corps of engineers. Our government here to help. d'oh! There are more and more of those barriers going up, to protect homes that were built in known low lying areas, and that is exacerbating the problem. Channeling that water into smaller channels that cause the rivers to back up and flood even more.

I hear where you're coming from. Same deal in my home town, my grandparents both ended up relocating in the 60's to new homes because where they were was just not viable anymore. The homes were trashed and they knew it wasn't going to be the last time. But home is home. I would not go for the occasional severe flood. I get it.

My point is when you can go back and look at historical maps, and there are areas called out as flood plains, and folks are building new homes in those areas, it's a low percentage operation.



In this case it ran East to west bisecting the river. It’s stated purpose was to prevent vehicles from crossing the median and causing a head on collision. New sections are being built with weep holes.
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Be safe Ray
Gene363 Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
Last year I did some flood insurance adjusting so I can from experience. In the past FEMA would in fact cover repeated losses to the same dwellings. However, that trend is changing. If a structure repeatedly has losses an audit was required. In addition, if communities don’t enforce building guidelines the premiums will skyrocket. For the first time I’m seeing homes here abandoned because FEMA is making it difficult, or not possible for dwellings with repeated losses to participate.

After the 2016 flood our mayor was adamant about getting our community into a preferred risk class to keep premiums from going to the moon. Every home that filed a FEMA claim was inspected by the city building inspector. Any home considered to have major damage (damages representing more than 50% of the home’s market value) would only be permitted if it’s lowest floor was one foot above the base elevation. If the dwelling could not be permitted it was condemned.



Hats off to the mayor for doing the right thing, the hard thing, pretty rare these days.

It's pretty easy to sit at my keyboard and condemn the situation, OTOH, if it is the house you own and lived in, it's a complete different matter.

I spent about nine years as a dam operator in the LA Flood Control District, so flooding is always important to me. Even after becoming a migrant radiation worker I've always been picky about where we lived as we moved across the country. Flood probability knowledge isn't new or uncommon, but often ignored by developers and consumers.
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Ray....

What's the latest?
How is your area doing?

The flooding is all over the national news...
Worst flooding ever...
fishinguitarman Offline
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It’s cresting right now at 38’ and more rain 🌧 s coming. Where I live, Only a few miles from the mess, we’re ok.

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Ray, What's the deal? Your family and home oK?
USNGunner Offline
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fishinguitarman wrote:
It’s cresting right now at 38’ and more rain 🌧 s coming. Where I live, Only a few miles from the mess, we’re ok.




Glad to hear you're well.
Gene363 Offline
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fishinguitarman wrote:
It’s cresting right now at 38’ and more rain 🌧 s coming. Where I live, Only a few miles from the mess, we’re ok.



ThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp
Speyside Offline
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Anthony, a serious question, would it be possible to move the graves to a area that won't flood or would that be a logistical impossibility. What you say has meaning and I haven't thought about it from the perspective you spoke about.
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Also could houses be rebuilt on cement pillars on cement pads that have proper in ground cement posts? I know cement posts is not the right term, but I can't think of it. Would it make any difference in that the house would be 20 30 feet off the ground. I have seen this in FLORIDA.
Mr. Jones Offline
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Spey...

I think your idea is a no brainier...
But as of yet...
Nobody has done it except smart people with more money than the AVG. BeAR....who have experienced flooding first hand..

Everybody Else just buys federal flood insurance...

It is a crying shame...give the claiment $10 k more for
8 foot stilts And no more claims ever again...

It's too logical and efficient...
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