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opelmanta1900 Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 4:08 PM EST
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lol...
deadeyedick Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 4:14 PM EST
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Do we get her X Williy Brown in the deal?
ZRX1200 Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 4:20 PM EST
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Out of the laughable picks this one is a doozy.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 4:20 PM EST
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The dnc has no qualms selecting a vp that the press could eviscerate over her record... because they know they won't say anything other than what the dnc wants to hear... because they truly are the enemy of the people...
Stogie1020 Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 4:30 PM EST
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"Ms. Harris, were you lying when you called Joe Biden a racist during the primary debates or are you lying now as his VP pick when you say he isn't one? Which time were you lying?"
MACS Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 4:34 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
"Ms. Harris, were you lying when you called Joe Biden a racist during the primary debates or are you lying now as his VP pick when you say he isn't one? Which time were you lying?"


Joe: See? See? I'm not racist at all!! I picked a black female as my VP running mate!
victor809 Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 4:37 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
"Ms. Harris, were you lying when you called Joe Biden a racist during the primary debates or are you lying now as his VP pick when you say he isn't one? Which time were you lying?"


Outside of trump claims and Fox news claims, have you seen any evidence of her actually saying he's a racist?
I have not been able to find a direct quote anywhere saying that.
MACS Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 4:42 PM EST
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Trump has Keep America Great...

Biden / Harris... the "feeler and the kneeler". Has a nice ring to it, no?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 4:45 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Outside of trump claims and Fox news claims, have you seen any evidence of her actually saying he's a racist?
I have not been able to find a direct quote anywhere saying that.

She specifically accused him of building his career off of racial segregation... which he definitely did....

not sure if that meets your ever changing definition of racism or not...
MACS Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 4:46 PM EST
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Wait! Wait--- "Joe and the Ho!"
Stogie1020 Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 4:48 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Outside of trump claims and Fox news claims, have you seen any evidence of her actually saying he's a racist?
I have not been able to find a direct quote anywhere saying that.


Just so I am clear, we have to actually say those words now? Exactly those words?

Because she said "you voted to prevent busing little African American kids to better white schools, and i was one of those kids you curmudgeonly old white plantation-owning bastid" I mean, basically that.
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#12 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 4:50 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Just so I am clear, we have to actually say those words now? Exactly those words?

Because she said "you voted to prevent busing little African American kids to better white schools, and i was one of those kids you curmudgeonly old white plantation-owning bastid" I mean, basically that.


yeah.... but without the whole "basically that".
This has been a trump campaign talking point right off the bat, but I cannot find any evidence that it's true. Which of course doesn't stop the trump campaign, or the trump voters... but I'm more curious than anything
fiddler898 Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 4:59 PM EST
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Well, this thread got predictable in a hurry.
victor809 Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 5:01 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
She specifically accused him of building his career off of racial segregation... which he definitely did....

not sure if that meets your ever changing definition of racism or not...


It's a very clear statement they said she made.

I would like to see a clear quote.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 5:16 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
It's a very clear statement they said she made.

I would like to see a clear quote.

k...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 5:17 PM EST
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“It’s personal and it’s hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their career on the segregation of race in this country,” Harris said, turning to the former vice president and looking him in the eye. “It was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing. There was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools. And she was bused to school every day. And that little girl was me." Kamalalaladingdong
victor809 Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 5:20 PM EST
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So she didn't call him racist?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 5:21 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
So she didn't call him racist?

I would think someone "who built their career on the segregation of race in this country" would be racist to do so... but as I already predicted, you've likely got a new definition for "racism"...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 5:23 PM EST
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if donald trump opposed busing black students into white neighborhoods would it be because he's racist?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 5:24 PM EST
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btw, what kamala was talking about was Joe Biden's well documented calls for racial segregation which far exceeded what the federal government wanted...
victor809 Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 5:25 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I would think someone "who built their career on the segregation of race in this country" would be racist to do so... but as I already predicted, you've likely got a new definition for "racism"...


No. You really want her to have called him racist. She didn't even say he "built his career on the segregation of race in this country". That was two other senators.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 5:25 PM EST
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but don't worry, he thinks poor kids are just as smart as white kids...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 5:26 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
No. You really want her to have called him racist. She didn't even say he "built his career on the segregation of race in this country". That was two other senators.




the truth is you really want a black person to not consider him racist so you feel better about voting for a racist child molester...
victor809 Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 5:27 PM EST
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We're not debating whether biden is racist or not. It's irrelevant, since his opponent is implementing racist policies, making racist statements etc. Biden could be wearing a klan hood and he'd essentially be at parity with his opponent.

I'm simply trying to figure out where Harris said Biden was racist.
victor809 Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 5:29 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
the truth is you really want a black person to not consider him racist so you feel better about voting for a racist child molester...


Dude... we are literally choosing between two accused child rapists. You're not differentiating him by calling him a racist child molester.
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#26 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 5:44 PM EST
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here is a direct quote from Harris during the debate:

“I do not believe you are a racist, and I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground,” she said. “But it was hurtful to hear you talk the reputations of two United States Senators who built their reputations and career on segregation of race in this country.”


as a target of that racism, her qualification to define someone as a racist exceeds any of us here...

racists rarely see that behavior in themselves
victor809 Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 5:49 PM EST
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So you're telling me she said she doesn't believe he is racist. And you have a direct quote.

but Opel, Stogie and the Trump Campaign (and Fox News) are telling me she said he is racist... but don't have any direct quotes saying that... and it requires some creative interpretation of where the subject of a sentence is....


who.... to.... believe....

wow.... that's a tough one
opelmanta1900 Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 6:01 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
if donald trump opposed busing black students into white neighborhoods would it be because he's racist?

you never answered this one...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 6:05 PM EST
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I'll save you from pulling your brain groin trying to do mental gymnastics...

kamala highlighted the well documented fact that biden strongly opposed busing black kids into white schools...

there's only one reason someone would oppose busing black kids into white schools: racism...

kamala called biden a racist... it's not my fault if she's too dumb to know it...
victor809 Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 6:08 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
you never answered this one...


And you are missing the point that it would be my decision to label him as such. You are saying she applied that label. Clearly she didn't. Hell, it appears she said he wasn't at the beginning of that criticism of him.

We aren't arguing whether or not you or I believe Biden is racist. We are arguing whether or not she said she believed he was.
victor809 Offline
#31 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 6:10 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I'll save you from pulling your brain groin trying to do mental gymnastics...

kamala highlighted the well documented fact that biden strongly opposed busing black kids into white schools...

there's only one reason someone would oppose busing black kids into white schools: racism...

kamala called biden a racist... it's not my fault if she's too dumb to know it...


So you're saying trump is racist?
https://www.chalkbeat.org/2019/12/2/21121866/dozens-of-school-districts-applied-to-an-obama-era-integration-program-before-trump-officials-axed-i
rfenst Offline
#32 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 6:24 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
"Ms. Harris, were you lying when you called Joe Biden a racist during the primary debates or are you lying now as his VP pick when you say he isn't one? Which time were you lying?"


Kamala: I really thought he was a racist when I called him one, but now having come to know him well and have watched him long enough I am now absolutely certain he is not a racist.


"I thought I was right then, but now I am certain I'm right."
(Famous Abraham Lincoln legal argument taught in law school contracts class).
DrafterX Offline
#33 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 6:29 PM EST
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I heard she was born in India... Mellow
rfenst Offline
#34 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 6:42 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard she was born in India... Mellow

Not Kenya?
Krazeehorse Offline
#35 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 7:25 PM EST
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I heard her fathers ancestors owned slaves.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#36 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 7:47 PM EST
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Is the media going to call her Ghetto Barbie?

Asking for a friend.
frankj1 Offline
#37 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 9:21 PM EST
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does defying federal law when refusing to rent apartments to Black people qualify as racist?
Krazeehorse Offline
#38 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 9:31 PM EST
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Of course it does Frank. But Don and Joe have both changed.
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#39 Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2020, 9:43 PM EST
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Krazeehorse wrote:
Of course it does Frank. But Don and Joe have both changed.

I'll probably have a few different ideas when I'm in my 70's too (soon!!!)
Krazeehorse Offline
#40 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2020, 5:14 AM EST
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I'm not on Medicare yet Frank. I just hope to make it to my 70's. In the mean time we're having some fun here anyway.
bgz Offline
#41 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2020, 10:16 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Dude... we are literally choosing between two accused child rapists. You're not differentiating him by calling him a racist child molester.


If our choice is between two racist child rapists, then... Biden is the vote because I hear trump's d*ck don't work any more...

Think of the children.
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#42 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2020, 10:50 AM EST
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bgz wrote:
If our choice is between two racist child rapists, then... Biden is the vote because I hear trump's d*ck don't work any more...

Think of the children.


heh.

you trying to convince me to vote for trump because he won't be able to successfully rape the children. You may have actually hit on the only valid argument I've heard of so far for him.
bgz Offline
#43 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2020, 10:57 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
heh.

you trying to convince me to vote for trump because he won't be able to successfully rape the children. You may have actually hit on the only valid argument I've heard of so far for him.


I was actually going the other way, because trump's d*ck don't work, he's not a threat, so we gotta keep Joe busy. Not many kids in white house.
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#44 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2020, 11:03 AM EST
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bgz wrote:
I was actually going the other way, because trump's d*ck don't work, he's not a threat, so we gotta keep Joe busy. Not many kids in white house.


Hmmmm.... you bring up a real confusing point.
Is it safest for the children for trump and his limp d!ck to be running free, while distracting biden?
Or does that give biden the power to hide the pizza place child-raping basement if he's president? And the access to it daily?

It's all very confusing. Maybe we should ask the children.









.... ok. I asked the children. they said "mmphmmmphmp"
bgz Offline
#45 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2020, 11:19 AM EST
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Rofl
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#46 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2020, 3:58 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Kamala: I really thought he was a racist when I called him one, but now having come to know him well and have watched him long enough I am now absolutely certain he is not a racist.


"I thought I was right then, but now I am certain I'm right."
(Famous Abraham Lincoln legal argument taught in law school contracts class).


Biden still thinks he can win the South because his state was a slave state.
https://youtu.be/qFduMuP7v-k

Meanwhile Kamala Harris Already Vetting VP Picks
https://babylonbee.com/news/report-kamala-harris-already-vetting-vp-picks
victor809 Offline
#47 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2020, 3:59 PM EST
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I hope you know that babylonbee is a satire site....
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#48 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2020, 4:04 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I hope you know that babylonbee is a satire site....


Ya, but they may be closer to the truth that you think on this one.Think
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#49 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2020, 4:18 PM EST
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Oh I don't disagree with the sentiment at all. Both Trump and Biden have a statistically significant chance of keeling over in the next 4 years.

But I don't think the VP gets to choose a new VP, do they? Oh, I just checked... they do. Heh. Guess she better start thinking about who she wants.
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#50 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2020, 4:49 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Oh I don't disagree with the sentiment at all. Both Trump and Biden have a statistically significant chance of keeling over in the next 4 years.

But I don't think the VP gets to choose a new VP, do they? Oh, I just checked... they do. Heh. Guess she better start thinking about who she wants.


Uh Huh! Sly dog that Kamala. When Biden keels over or the guys in the white coats come to take him away, it smooth sailing for the Harris dictatorship. Why else would she sign up with an old racist from a slave state that colluded with segregationists.
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