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Medical Marijuana...
frankj1 Offline
#51 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
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if you send all of us her suggestions we won't have to pay anything...HA!
DrafterX Offline
#52 Posted:
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I could sure go for some medical marijuana about now.. Mellow
rfenst Offline
#53 Posted:
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Working on accurately dosed concentrates and edibles to reduce smoking and to determine if their is a helpful amount to keep me pain free without being high. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

Found $75 off $150, so I loaded up on ground flower to cook with and syringes of concentrates so that I can measure doses.

Gonna boil 1/2 oz. of ground flower in two sticks of butter for four hours, then bake cookies this afternoon...
izonfire Offline
#54 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
I could sure go for some medical marijuana about now.. Mellow

Yeah, some medical marijuana would really hit the spot. Mellow

Especially after Tulsa time…. Argh! Argh! Argh!
rfenst Offline
#55 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
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Scored big on precisely dosed edibles yesterday. 1,700 mg of edibles plus two 1/8th's for $115. That's half off! Included was #30 50mg thc pills. I took one this morning to see if I can start zeroing in on a dose that works all the way around. I think it is probably much more than I need, but we will see. If it is too much, tomorrow morning I will take 25mg and see how that goes. Got the whole day to do nothing if 50mg is too much.
Mr. Jones Offline
#56 Posted:
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Keep experimenting RFENST....

Keep a journal and write all this stuff down....

Don't totally rule out your old college buddies or old law firm new hires / clerks / apprentices for a black mkt connection to smokeables...
It may be way cheaper and could possibly work just as well?
If you can bake or cook you can make your own edibles...

I hope this new route helps with your pain...

Good luck!!!
rfenst Offline
#57 Posted:
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People Are Using Marijuana to Treat Anxiety and Depression, but the Science Is Murky

Wary of side effects from conventional drugs, some people are using cannabis as a treatment. Doctors aren’t sure that’s a good idea.

WSJ

More people are turning to cannabis to alleviate mental health problems like anxiety and depression, as well as insomnia, psychologists and researchers say. Yet the science on cannabis as a mental-health treatment is in its infancy—and some evidence suggests that marijuana can make these problems worse.

Therapists say they are seeing more patients using pot in place of antidepressant drugs like Zoloft and Paxil. Common medications prescribed for depression and anxiety disorders can come with significant side effects, including weight gain and sexual dysfunction. They also don’t work for everyone.

“Many people who had tried psychiatric medication had a hard time with side effects and didn’t want to get back on them,” says Robert Yeilding, a clinical psychologist in Newport Beach, Calif. Dr. Yeilding says the number of his patients using pot, in addition to therapy, has risen in the past two years.

Marijuana consumption, for any use, has risen in the U.S. in the past decade. In 2020, 11.8% of people ages 12 and older said they used the drug in the past month, according to new survey data released Monday from the federal Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. Just under 7% did in 2010. Among young adults ages 18 to 25, 23.1% said they used marijuana in the past month in 2020, up from 18.5% in 2010. The data doesn’t distinguish between medical and recreational usage.

As of June, 18 states and the District of Columbia have legalized recreational marijuana use. In those states, people who are old enough to legally purchase pot can walk into a dispensary and buy it, or will be able to soon. Many other states allow medical marijuana use. In these states, people generally have to first see a doctor who will certify that they have a qualifying health condition. Then they will receive a medical marijuana card and will be allowed to purchase products in medical dispensaries.

Research has found that anxiety, depression and sleep problems are among the most common reasons why people use medical cannabis.

Over the years, Sean Gatten tried several antidepressants to treat his anxiety, he said. But he gained weight and sometimes had difficulty sleeping. One drug seemed to make his anxiety worse. So he quit the medications. In August 2020, after his anxiety surged, Mr. Gatten, 39 years old, decided to try marijuana to treat it. He saw a doctor and was approved for a Pennsylvania medical marijuana card, he said. He now primarily vapes a combination of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), which is largely responsible for marijuana’s high, and cannabidiol (CBD), a substance that doesn’t produce the kind of high associated with THC and may have several therapeutic effects.

“It helps calm me down,” says Mr. Gatten, a veteran in Enola, Pa. “It provides a sense of relief and helps me focus more.”

Many scientists think cannabis has wide potential as a treatment for a variety of health problems, including psychiatric conditions. The cannabis plant includes dozens of substances called cannabinoids: THC and CBD are just the most well-known. The Food and Drug Administration has approved one cannabinoid-derived drug for the treatment of certain seizure disorders and cannabis-related medications for the treatment of weight loss in people with AIDS and nausea due to cancer treatment.

The research supporting the use of cannabis for sleep and mental health is nascent, however. Some small studies have found that CBD alleviates symptoms in people with social anxiety. And several studies looking at using cannabinoids for chronic pain have found that those patients saw a reduction in their anxiety, too. Researchers at McLean Hospital in Massachusetts have just completed the first phase of a clinical trial, which is under peer review, of CBD for anxiety: Those who received CBD saw about a 70% to 80% improvement on measures of anxiety, says Staci Gruber, director of McLean’s Marijuana Investigations for Neuroscientific Discovery (MIND) program and the senior author of the study.

A new study by researchers in Australia involving 23 participants with chronic insomnia found that taking an oil with THC and CBD nightly for two weeks led to improved scores on a measure of insomnia. And an observational study published recently in the journal Frontiers in Psychiatry found that people who began using medicinal cannabis reported a reduction in symptoms of anxiety and depression. Those who didn’t begin using cannabis saw no change in their symptoms.

Some studies have found that cannabis use among people with anxiety and depression is linked to more severe symptoms. In 2019, the American Psychiatric Association issued a statement declaring that there is “no current scientific evidence that cannabis is in any way beneficial for the treatment of any psychiatric disorder” and noted a “strong association of cannabis use with the onset of psychiatric disorders.”

Psychiatrists also note the danger of developing cannabis use disorder, an addiction that can afflict more than 20% of regular cannabis users, says Smita Das, clinical associate professor of psychiatry at Stanford University School of Medicine and chair of the council on addiction psychiatry at the American Psychiatric Association.

“A lot of clients are under the impression that there is an evidence base for what they are doing,” says Dr. Yielding, about his patients who use cannabis for their anxiety. “There isn’t.”

The variety of cannabis products can be difficult for people to navigate, or to know what type might work best for them. Cannabis products come in various forms, including flower and edibles, can be consumed by smoking, eating or vaping, and come in a variety of strengths and combinations. Each variation can cause a different effect.

Also, what is on the label doesn’t always reflect what is actually in the product, especially with cannabis purchased in unregulated dispensaries, says Ziva D. Cooper, director of the UCLA Cannabis Research Initiative. “You don’t necessarily know what it is you’re taking,” she says.

People who would like to try cannabis should “start low and go slow,” says Dr. Gruber. For someone who hasn’t used THC-products before, “people might be more comfortable trying out CBD,” says Dr. Cooper. “It doesn’t get you high. It won’t cloud your memory.” Then, if you want to try THC, start with a product containing as little as 1 milligram of THC, she says.
rfenst Offline
#58 Posted:
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WOW!

Anyone else watch the Sanjay Gupta/CNN expose on mmj for tx of autism? We are so very 100% franking stupid for not allowing research and legal tx for this. My god, these people and their families are suffering in an unbelievable way no one should have to- over something so damn easy to help. It makes me sick. Sick
frankj1 Offline
#59 Posted:
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just did a quick read, I so hope this is the answer
KingoftheCove Offline
#60 Posted:
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Ok time for my quick experience with MMJ.........again.
Suffered for decades with IBS......nothing helped.......was getting bad........on my way to Crohn’s disease.
Finally tried edibles in 2010 or so...........a bad flare up went away in 16 hours!! ( as opposed to the usual 4-6 days of no food and only soups along with sedatives/hypnotics)
From then on any time I sensed an IBS episode, one edible........gone.
Pretty soon, like within 6 months, no more flare ups, and I didn’t do anything differently.
Fuqing miracle! Haven’t had any issues since then.

Recently re-discovered edibles for my night time pee issues.
Used to have to go twice, sometimes 3 times a night........royal PITA!
Eat an edible, and I go ONCE, or not at all!
Another miracle.

Lots of potential remedies, and even CURES, for a variety of ailments with these plants and their various strains and chemical compounds.
Glad to see that it’s finally being properly researched and that the old school resistance to weed is finally breaking down.
Speyside2 Offline
#61 Posted:
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Saw Weed 6 Robert. I was stunned. Anything to lesson that hell on earth is a blessing.
hinzna Offline
#62 Posted:
Joined: 10-03-2014
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I've found that with the right strains and concentrates, I can have a clear head and the symptoms of my MS, anxiety, and depression are all significantly more manageable. I haven't taken a Norco or other heavy duty painkiller in more than 3 years!
Sunoverbeach Offline
#63 Posted:
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Izzat 'cause you got stoned and forgot to? Think
hinzna Offline
#64 Posted:
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Anxious
bgz Offline
#65 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Izzat 'cause you got stoned and forgot to? Think


That's my excuse.

On another note, Hinza would probably enjoy the vherf.
Speyside2 Offline
#66 Posted:
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Started using it for pain, and stress, it seems to be helping greatly.
bgz Offline
#67 Posted:
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^ this one would enjoy the vherf.
rfenst Offline
#68 Posted:
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It has been a game changer for me.

Not only have I avoided opioids (which I could have chosen as my next step), but I have for example only taken one single muscle relaxant over the last 10-14 days (I am prescribed up to two per day) and have been off daily anti-inflammatory Rx for the last week or so.

THC percentage is NOT what I look at first anymore. The mix of other non-intoxicating chemical compounds is far more important. So, I'm dialing-in on certain specific strains and their other chemicals

YMMV. Herfing
rfenst Offline
#69 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
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The best daytime strain for me (Super Silver Haze) doesn't mess me up or really make me high- and I can think and talk clearly while using it- is unavailable right now for the indefinite future. So I went to a new dispensary to buy four more strains to try in hope of finding a substitute. When SSH comes back I will load up on it unless I find something even better in the meantime.
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