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Jesus "whichever of you is free from sin, throw the first stone”
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Gary North "The Fifth And By Far The Most Important Reason Is That Stoning Is Literally A Means Of Crushing The Murderer's Head By Means Of A Rock, Which Is Symbolic Of God. This Is Analogous To The Crushing Of The Head Of The Serpent In Genesis 3:15. This Symbolism Testifies To The Final Victory Of God Over All The Hosts Of Satan. Stoning Is Therefore Integral To The Commandment Against Murder."
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Mathew "Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."
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James "Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?"
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Mathew "16 (B)Now behold, one came and said to Him, (C)“Good[a] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”

17 So He said to him, [b]“Why do you call Me good? [c]No one is (D)good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, (E)keep the commandments.”

18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”

Jesus said, (F)“‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 (G)‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, (H)‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”
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Which one of the above is inconsistent with the others?
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Gary North called himself a Christian.
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Christians obey God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.
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In my opinion, only murderers stone people to death.
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If a man promotes murder does he follow God's path or does he do the devil's work? If a man follows and obeys Jesus is he a Christian? If a man follows a servant of the devil what is he?
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Apologies to all here who are not Christian. This I started for Ray.
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I'm not Christian... give me a rock, I'll throw that b*tch at Gary...
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I foresee a dismissal coming in the near future. The reasoning thereof will be random, out of left field, likely quoting articles found in the dark and dusty corners of the internet, and peppered with claims of woke lizard people
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...and now, back to "Spey banters with Spey" thread....
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That's what happens when Spey forgets to take his meds, he starts talking preaching gibberish he learned from some follower of Satan web site, believing it is a direct hotline to God's truth. I think David Koresh was like that. and I see B-G-Z may be his new disciple.

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Dang it! No articles. No lizard people. You disappoint me, Comrade Ray
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Dang it! No articles. No lizard people. You disappoint me, Comrade Ray


Not me man!. There is no point in trying to talk sense to crazies. I got better things to do.
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Rick A. 69-1/2...People who live in glass houses, shouldn't take baths...Pray Angel Pray
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Unless you're into exhibitionism
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I had eggs, hash browns and Dave’s Killer bread toast for breakfast.
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RayR wrote:
That's what happens when Spey forgets to take his meds, he starts talking preaching gibberish he learned from some follower of Satan web site, believing it is a direct hotline to God's truth. I think David Koresh was like that. and I see B-G-Z may be his new disciple.



Some people just like to throw rocks...

And it sounds like the dude supports throwing rocks at "sinners"...

So it's completely consensual from my understanding.
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When I was a kid, getting stoned meant something entirely different…..
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I had eggs, pork sausage and Dave’s Killer bread toast for breakfast.


Yeah... me, too. Powerseed, buddy...
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bgz wrote:
Some people just like to throw rocks...

And it sounds like the dude supports throwing rocks at "sinners"...

So it's completely consensual from my understanding.


Gary North called people like you and Spey "schnooks". A person that has no ability or inclination to understand what he reads. A person who just likes to throw stones.
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Everything I quoted was from the NKJ Bible or the NIV Bible. Exept for the quote from Gary North who you follow and promote. Are you saying the Bible is a direct hotline to the devil? Are you saying Gary North is a servant of the Devil? Are you saying you do not read and study the bible? Please provide facts of any website that is about devil worship that uses any of the passages I used. Now be specific to the question, you bore false witness against a number of people here in my opinion.
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I remember when Gary North was testifying in the Iran-Contra hearings.
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Z, I have been mean, snarky, and an ahole in the past. I attribute that to a gluten intolerance. It could be something else.

What is your excuse, you do all of the above to everyone who disagrees with you. Then if anyone responds in kind your poor itty bitty feelings get hurt. Yet you are often the first to laugh at someone who feels the same way. I imagine that is just who you are.

I work on my faults every day, I cannot help you with yours. Do you think you have no faults? Do you think you are superior to me in some way? Do you not realize we are equals? Do you not realize we are all brothers and sisters?

What is it you really think of me. I am a big boy and can take whatever you say. Just realize I may comment back in return.
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Chris Noth has been on tv and in movies for years.
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Oh, Z, do you think the Gary North we are speaking is one of the good guys?
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RayR wrote:
Gary North called people like you and Spey "schnooks". A person that has no ability or inclination to understand what he reads. A person who just likes to throw stones.


I call people like Gary North "crooks"... they say all this stupid sh*t to get you to buy their stupid books and subscribe to their stupid membership club to get stupid decoder rings or what ever he gives you then tries to rope you into his financial services and before you know it he's tapping your sh*t from 5 different spigots.

Have fun... seen enough of those guys in my life to know what they look like.

You're probably one of them... so if I said anything hurtful there, oh well.
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Speyside2 wrote:
Everything I quoted was from the NKJ Bible or the NIV Bible. Exept for the quote from Gary North who you follow and promote. Are you saying the Bible is a direct hotline to the devil? Are you saying Gary North is a servant of the Devil? Are you saying you do not read and study the bible? Please provide facts of any website that is about devil worship that uses any of the passages I used. Now be specific to the question, you bore false witness against a number of people here in my opinion.


I'm sayin' that you are a schnook!
You take an excerpt of a quote out of context and present it as a literal declaration by him like he wants to crush people's heads or something because the symbolism in the Bible you don't even want to comprehend..Mr. student of the bible.

North was an economic historian, much of his work was looking at economics in the bible. Obviously, you hate that but then again you've never read anything from his considerable contribution to economics and have no interest. You might have a direct hotline to the devil too, like BGZ since all you seem to do is throw stones at Christians like North...and Jews too, all of which are paleo-conservatives and libertarians for that matter.
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Do I think I’m better than you and do I not think we’re equials? No and no….nobody is equal because everyone is different. I don’t see fault in that and I see faults in myself. Once I even thought I was wrong.

But I was mistaken.

When we’re my feelings hurt though I don’t remember (another fault of mine).

And I don’t give two 💩 about Gary North have no idea who he is/was….is he dead or alive? Not that I care about him necessarily I’m more curious if you’re speaking ill of the dead. Cuz people here might think you’re as big of an azzwhole as me if you are. You don’t need that kinda heat bro.
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Ya, I only heard of the guy a few days ago... I know Ray is on his nuts, that's all I need to talk sh*t.
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You don’t have a need, you must just be.

Plus you don’t need to explain yourself, brother Spey and I love you no matter what.
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Interesting Z, I chose my words carefully so as to not speak ill of Gary North. As to a whole lot of heat, really? This is an internet cigar forum. Big hint, there are only words here. There is no possibility of heat.
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bgz wrote:
Ya, I only heard of the guy a few days ago... I know Ray is on his nuts, that's all I need to talk sh*t.



Yep, yer just the BAD TROLL always looking to drum up mayhem and chaos.
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Words betray intent.
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Well, it certainly says something that you inevitably side with Ray. Maybe that is just about me.
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It’s always about you.

Who’s Ray?
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I asked my wife what she wanted for Christmas. She told me "Nothing would make her happier than a diamond necklace" So I bought her nothing.
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Rushdoony
North (Rishdoony's son in law)
Ron Paul...

apparently this is ray's religious/political/reconstructionist Holy Trinity.

Why wait for Jesus to return (never mind CelticBomber)? They can do it now on Earth, or at least thought so.

Can you imagine being so nuts that even Falwell was askeered?

here's a tidbit of what pissed them off when criticized by Falwell followers:
"Among Reconstructionism's highlights, the article cited support for laws "mandating the death penalty for homosexuals and drunkards." The Rev. Rushdoony fired off a letter to the editor complaining that the article had got his followers' views all wrong: They didn't intend to put drunkards to death."


YAY! I get to live to drink another day.
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frankj1 wrote:
Rushdoony
North (Rishdoony's son in law)
Ron Paul...


I was a huge fan of Ron Paul for a long time, because of his anti war/anti drug war/anti corporate welfare views. I even Stanned for him.

But over the years, it became obvious that he is either: completely incompetent, dosen't care that he attracts (and employs) bigots, or he is just a plain old bigot himself who has been fortunate enough to not be caught on video. And at this point, I don't care which of the three it is.

And anyone who supports Gary North is no better than The Taliban. They just worship a different god.
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borndead1 wrote:
I was a huge fan of Ron Paul for a long time, because of his anti war/anti drug war/anti corporate welfare views. I even Stanned for him.

But over the years, it became obvious that he is either: completely incompetent, dosen't care that he attracts (and employs) bigots, or he is just a plain old bigot himself who has been fortunate enough to not be caught on video. And at this point, I don't care which of the three it is.

And anyone who supports Gary North is no better than The Taliban. They just worship a different god.

there was a time when I thought Ron Paul might be worth support.
I had been listening to a fellow named Gene Burns on local radio, Libertarians were kinda new...
I was wrong.

Gene Burns decided he was also wrong before he died.

You and I are likely not of the same mind much of the time, but here and there our thoughts on certain things are not mutually exclusive despite different starting points. But these three guys are/were carrying psychotic thoughts that mix American politics and God appointed weirdness.

This is not conservativism nor Libertarianism...not even religion. And certainly not American.
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This is not conservativism nor Libertarianism...not even religion. And certainly not American.


But these mfs consider themselves American Libertarians; supporters of 'religious freedom' and such (as long as it's Fundamentalist Christianity).

I refer to my posts on another thread. Would you REALLY want your religious views made law and forced on everyone?

For you and I, the answer is no. For them, the answer is f**k yes. There is no compromising with these people. They are the mirror image of the liberals they talk so much sh*t about. They want big government just like liberals do; they just want a different form of big government.

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BD1 I think it’s easy to get bogged into ones deeply held mindset.

The political pendulum has been pushed not swung naturally and I think you see elements or big R’s moving to big L because of the corporate take over of the two major parties. I see plenty of traditional big R stuff on libertarian social media posts and scratch my head.

I think it’s the same reason Cheeto got elected.
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I enjoyed listening to Free Talk Live for quite some time simply because it took me out of my comfort zone. Until they started talking about no age of consent and then I tuned out.

Everyone’s hypocrisy only goes so far and people will congregate where they feel comfortable. Especially now. Not enough people are ok with being wrong (at least for even a conversation) so IMO it’s the new hang out.
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HockeyDad wrote:
I remember when Gary North was testifying in the Iran-Contra hearings.


That was Gary Condit. He's since gone missing.
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That was Oliver North, I imagine you already knew that when you posted. It did give me a good laugh.
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frankj1 wrote:
there was a time when I thought Ron Paul might be worth support.
I had been listening to a fellow named Gene Burns on local radio, Libertarians were kinda new...
I was wrong.

Gene Burns decided he was also wrong before he died.

You and I are likely not of the same mind much of the time, but here and there our thoughts on certain things are not mutually exclusive despite different starting points. But these three guys are/were carrying psychotic thoughts that mix American politics and God appointed weirdness.

This is not conservativism nor Libertarianism...not even religion. And certainly not American.


So you expect me to believe that before you and BD1 went to the dark side that you were a libertarian? LOL
We call fair-weather friends like that at best left-libertarians, you are only libertarians to a point, single issues like anti-war, anti-drug war, anti-corporate welfare maybe, things you have an emotional connection to..but beyond that, it's off to cuddling up with the dark side of the left or to the Neocons and Straussians.
And you thought that the libertarian thing was something new? LOL You've only convinced me that you know NOTHING about history, classical liberalism, libertarianism, or even what real conservatism is about!
Frank, can you define what American is, and while you are at it please define what a woman is?? Inquiring minds want to know.

You probably avoid the daily RonPaulLibertyReport because it takes you out of your comfort zone because he and his cohosts and guests have been right on everything...COVID, the FED, the MOLECH STATE, FOREIGN POLICY, and let us not forget Biden and his progturd followers.
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Speyside2 wrote:
That was Oliver North, I imagine you already knew that when you posted. It did give me a good laugh.


That was Oliver? That’s a Twist.
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