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CDC Adds C-19 Vacine to "Recommended Immunization Schedule"
Stogie1020 Offline
#1 Posted:
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"Recommended" you say? Why does that matter, then?

Because that list is generally the list of vaccines public schools require kids to have in order to attend, and most youth sports leagues require in order to participate.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cdc-advisory-committee-votes-add-covid-19-vaccine-immunization-schedules-children-adults

DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted:
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Even though we all know it doesn't prevent transmission or catching the virus.

Common sense better start kicking in with Lefty.
HockeyDad Offline
#3 Posted:
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In California we already passed a law to require the ‘Rona shot for school age children. (The same children we kept out of school for 18 months and now we’re seeing the devastation that caused in their education)
Mr. Jones Offline
#4 Posted:
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All these immunized COVID guinea pig high school sports team kids will grow third arms, develop womanly breasts,
And heart disease before they hit 30 yrs of age...AND DIE BY 35...

Pfizer is making sure all the healthy sporting type people die off quickly then all the weaklings will be turned into slaves and have to EAT GROUND UP SOYLENT BUG PROTIEN BARS...

JUST LIKE TED TURNER THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONE CREATOR ENVISIONED AND HOPED FOR....
steve02 Offline
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And this is why I got ordained as a Minister - to do Covid shot religious exemptions. I'm 7 for 7 in getting exemptions approved.
ZRX1200 Offline
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I’m ordained.
Sunoverbeach Offline
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My dog understands several human words. I Don understand any dog barks. He may be smarter than me.
Mike3316 Offline
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That .... and its another layer of legal protection for the pharmas. All manufacturers of any drugs required for public school enrollment get government indemnification for any adverse events as a result of their shots. PLUS - everyone at the CDC with investments in the pharmas (starting with St. Fauxchi) is gonna make a fortune when every kid in the country is required to get shot up and boosted every year.
rfenst Offline
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Mike3316 wrote:
That .... and its another layer of legal protection for the pharmas. All manufacturers of any drugs required for public school enrollment get government indemnification for any adverse events as a result of their shots. PLUS - everyone at the CDC with investments in the pharmas (starting with St. Fauxchi) is gonna make a fortune when every kid in the country is required to get shot up and boosted every year.

I though this was disproven.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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https://100percentfedup.com/fauci-and-wifes-net-worth-increased-by-shocking-amount-during-pandemic/

https://www.dailywire.com/news/fauci-collins-shared-in-secret-nih-royalties-totaling-350m-watchdog-report

https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/17/fauci-cant-whitewash-his-disastrous-legacy/
Sunoverbeach Offline
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It's sad that having real ingredients in a good product is a selling point
tailgater Offline
#12 Posted:
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I didn't open the article.

Does it really say the CDC has recommended the vaccine for children under the age of 12?

Because there's a funny little detail: There isn't a covid vaccine for folks under 12 years in age that is FDA approved.
True story.
Oh, sure. There's the EUA that allows it to be given to those under 12.
But Brandon told us we're no longer in a pandemic.

The FDA hasn't approved it for kids. Because it hasn't been tested and proven safe for kids.

Fortunately for Pfizer and Moderna, the EUA allows them to sell it for non-approved applications.
And the EUA also eliminates liability. To those who make it. To those who recommend it. And to those who mandate it.

So there's that.

rfenst Offline
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Disclosures Show Dr. Fauci’s Household Made $1.7 Million In 2020, Including Income, Royalties, Travel Perks And Investment Gains

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Last night, U.S. Senator Roger Marshall received Dr. Anthony Fauci’s unredacted FY2020 financial disclosures. The release following a heated Senate exchange between Fauci and Marshall which concluded with Fauci called the senator a “moron.”

The financial disclosures contain a wealth of previously unknown information. For example, the Fauci household’s net worth exceeds $10.4 million.

During the pandemic year of 2020, their household income, perks and benefits, and unrealized gains totaled $1,776,479 — including federal income and benefits of $868,812; outside royalties and travel perks totaling $113,298; and investment accounts increasing by $794,369.

Here are the numbers as compiled by the auditors at OpenTheBooks.com, an organization I lead. This analysis used previously known information plus the newly released disclosures.

Investment Income: $794,369
Disclosures show $794,369 in gains in the Fauci stock, bond, and money market portfolio during 2020. The total value of Dr. Fauci’s investment account was $8.4 million and his wife’s investments totaled another $2.1 million.

These funds were held in a mix of trust, retirement, and college education accounts. Fauci has an IRA worth $638,519 (up $42,291); a defined benefit brokerage account totaling $2,403,522 (up $241,418); and a revocable trust worth $5,295,898 (up $342,694). His wife’s revocable trust is worth $1,962,819 (up $156,123) and an IRA totaling $120,277 (up $11,843).


Some on the right have speculated that Fauci may have profited off the pandemic. The disclosures show that he’s invested in fairly broadly targeted mutual funds, with no reported holdings of individual stocks.

Fauci’s disclosures show that he owns a stake in a San Francisco restaurant, Jackson Fillmore, worth between $1,000 and $15,000: but received no income from the restaurant in FY2020 (or in FY2019).

Boris Johnson Claims Enough Support For Another Prime Minister Run
Previously, NIH had released heavily redacted financial disclosures of Dr. Fauci. Redactions included the fund balances, so a net worth analysis was impossible until now.

Salaries: $668,312
Dr. Fauci is the director of the National Institutes of Allergies and Infectious Diseases and his wife Christine Grady is the chief bio-ethicist at the National Institutes of Health.

Background: Fauci earned $434,312 in cash compensation (FY2020) outearning all 4.3 million federal employees including the president and four-star generals in the U.S. military. Between 2010 and 2020, Dr. Fauci earned cash compensation of $3.7 million from his federal employer. Review Fauci’s ten-year salary history in my previous column published at Forbes.

Fauci’s wife, Christine Grady is the chief bio-ethicist at the National Institutes of Health and made $234,284 in FY2020, as disclosed by FOIA to OpenTheBooks.com in August 2021. Grady’s FY2019 pay was also $234,284 and since 2015, Grady made $1.3 million in cash compensation.

However, Fauci’s financial disclosures only show that Grady made $176,000 for FY2020.

NIH does still not disclose Fauci’s current salary (FY2022) or last year’s salary (FY2021), despite comment requests for the information. Therefore, Fauci earned an estimated total of roughly $900,000 during the period.

Perks And Pension Benefits: Est. $200,500
Federal employees have a lucrative amount of paid time off, subsidized healthcare, pension benefits and a myriad of other perquisites. For example, after just three-years, a rank-and-file federal employee receives 44 days of paid time off. Dr. Fauci has held a federal job for 55 years.

A good faith estimate of the taxpayer cost of those benefits is 30-percent multiplied by the salary amount for Dr. Fauci and his wife.

Background: The study — published at Forbes in December — showed that when Fauci retires he’ll reap a retirement pension estimated at $350,000 per year, the highest in federal history. With cost-of-living increases, Fauci would receive over $1 million during his first three years of retirement.

Royalties And Professional Reimbursements: $100,000
Disclosures show that Dr. Fauci edits the medical textbook, Harrison’s Principles of Internal Medicine and serves on the board of the publisher, McGraw Hill. In 2020, Fauci received $100,000 as an editor of the publication. In 2019, Fauci also received $100,000 from McGraw Hill for editing the same textbook, and in July 2019, Fauci also received travel reimbursement of $6,328 for a six-day trip to La Jolla, CA to attend a board meeting of McGraw Hill, the publisher.

An NIH spokesperson confirmed that Dr. Fauci has an editorial board position with McGraw Hill that is approved by NIH. When he receives reimbursements for out-of-pocket travel to attend meetings, it is on the same basis as other directors.

Background: OpenTheBooks filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit to get a copy of all royalties paid to current and retired NIH scientists since 2005. When NIH would not release the information, a federal lawsuit was filed in October with Judicial Watch and production is scheduled to start on February 1st.

Gifts And Travel Reimbursements: $13,298
Galas: Fauci and his wife reported the fair market value of the $8,100 in tickets given to him to attend three virtual galas. Filers are instructed by Government-wide regulations that the “market value” of a ticketed event is the ticket’s face value. NIH gave prior written approval for Dr. Fauci to attend the events.

Here is the breakdown: $5,000 in for the Robert F. Kennedy (RFK) “Ripple of Hope” gala in December 2020 which also honored him as an award receipt. $1,600 to attend “An Evening Of Hope” virtual event in April 2020 and $1,500 to attend a “Prepared For Life” virtual gala in October 2020.

A spokesperson at NIH confirmed the details on the gala disclosures.

When Fauci was named Federal Employee Of The Year at the 2020 Samuael J. Heyman Service To America Medals awards program he was paid $5,198 for the virtual star-studded event.

Background: Fauci’s FY2021 disclosure is scheduled for release in May. The disclosure should contain interesting information. For example, in January 2021, as reported by NPR, Fauci received a $1 million prize for the prestigious Dan David Prize affiliated with Tel Aviv University for “speaking truth to power.”

Most likely Fauci kept $900,000 of that prize with 10-percent awarded to Fauci-picked scholarship winners.

Comment was requested from Dr. Fauci and NIH and the piece has been updated to provide further context and background.




RayR Offline
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Creepy Fauci is trying his hand at some bad revisionist history.
So soon? They haven't written the new history books yet for the schoolchildren.

‘He’s Now Rewriting History’: DeSantis Lashes Out At Fauci’s ‘False’ Claim


https://youtu.be/lGBwKfPlxoo

DrMaddVibe Offline
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Judge tosses NYC COVID vaccine mandate, orders fired city workers’ back pay



New York City’s controversial COVID-19 vaccine mandate for municipal workers was enacted illegally and employees who were fired for refusing to comply must be immediately reinstated with back pay, a state judge has ruled.

“It is time for the City of New York to do what is right and what is just,” Staten Island Supreme Court Justice Ralph Porzio wrote in a decision made public Tuesday.

More than 1,750 city workers were fired for refusing to get vaccinated, including 36 members of the NYPD and more than 950 Department of Education employees.

In his 13-page ruling, Porzio said then-city Health Commissioner David Chokshi’s Oct. 20, 2021, order “violates the separation of powers doctrine” enshrined in the state constitution.

And Chokshi’s order, another that extended the mandate to private employers and a related executive order issued by Mayor Eric Adams were “arbitrary and capricious” in violation of state law, the judge said. Adams’ March 24 executive order exempted athletes and performing artists from the vaccine mandate.

“The vaccination mandate for City employees was not just about safety and public health; it was about compliance,” Porzio wrote.

“If it was about safety and public health, unvaccinated workers would have been placed on leave the moment the order was issued. If it was about safety and public health, the Health Commissioner would have issued city-wide mandates for all residents.”

Porzio also noted the Big Apple’s “nearly 80% vaccination rate” before saying that “we shouldn’t be penalizing the people who showed up to work, at great risk to themselves and their families, while we were locked down.”

The ruling came in response to a suit filed earlier this year by 16 former Sanitation Department workers who were fired in February for refusing to get vaccinated and only applies to them.

But the ex-employees’ lawyer, Chad LaVeglia, said that “every city employee who has been terminated because of the mandate could bring civil actions against the city.”

“Litigation involving the other city employees would cost the city at least hundreds of millions—in taxpayer funds of course,” LaVeglia said.

In his decision, Porzio sald that the former sanitation workers “all claim, and provided laboratory documentation, that they have natural immunity to Covid-19 from prior infection(s).”

Porzio said experience from the pandemic has shown that the protections provided by vaccinations are “not absolute,” with breakthrough infections occurring “even for those who have been vaccinated and boosted.”

But he added that his ruling “is not a commentary on the efficacy of vaccination, but about how we are treating our first responders, the ones who worked day-to-day through the height of the pandemic.”

“They worked without protective gear. They were infected with Covid-19, creating natural immunity,” he wrote.

“They continued working full duty while their exemption requests were pending. They were terminated and are willing to come back to work for the City that cast them aside.”

In his decision, Porzio also cited President Biden’s recent assertion that the pandemic was “over” and Gov. Kathy Hochul’s Sept. 12 announcement that she wouldn’t extend New York’s pandemic-related state of emergency.

Under terms of the ruling, dated Monday, the fired sanitation workers were to be “reinstated to their full employment status” as of 6 a.m. Tuesday.

They’re also “entitled to back pay in salary from the date of termination” and were directed to submit a proposed judgment against the city by Nov. 10.

The city Law Department said it had filed papers seeking to reverse Porzio’s decision, which automatically blocked his order to reinstate the fired workers.

“The city strongly disagrees with this ruling as the mandate is firmly grounded in law and is critical to New Yorkers’ public health,” a Law Department spokesperson said.

“We have already filed an appeal. In the meantime, the mandate remains in place as this ruling pertains solely to the individual petitioners in this case. We continue to review the court’s decision, which conflicts with numerous other rulings already upholding the mandate.”

City Council Minority Leader Joe Borelli (R-Staten Island), said, “Even if it deals with just 16 people now, Pandora’s box has been opened.

“The pendulum has swung toward our direction and at this point, I think the city is appealing it simply because the back pay and the lawsuits that will follow will be more expensive than the appeal,” he said.

https://nypost.com/2022/10/25/judge-tosses-nyc-vaccine-mandate-orders-workers-backpay/


Keep on voting for the DNC and you get more tyranny.

“It’ll go to the Court of Appeals and they have not been pro-mandate. You don’t just get to make the rules.”
Brewha Offline
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Speaking as one of Cbid’s rare Liberals (Cbid’s greatest asset) and reading all the angst from the Right about free vaccine, I am amazed at the accuracy and implications of Darwin work.

Don’t get vaxed boys - it’s the natural order….

Sunoverbeach Offline
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When Sweden is playing Denmark it reads SWE-DEN. The remaining unused letters are DEN-MARK
Brewha Offline
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Did you know that “Dog” spelled backwards is “God”?

Really puts a whole new light on things, don’t it?
RayR Offline
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Brewha wrote:
Speaking as one of Cbid’s rare Liberals (Cbid’s greatest asset) and reading all the angst from the Right about free vaccine, I am amazed at the accuracy and implications of Darwin work.

Don’t get vaxed boys - it’s the natural order….



So...how many booster jabs did you get so far?
tailgater Offline
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Brewha wrote:
Speaking as one of Cbid’s rare Liberals (Cbid’s greatest asset) and reading all the angst from the Right about free vaccine, I am amazed at the accuracy and implications of Darwin work.

Don’t get vaxed boys - it’s the natural order….



It's awesome when the liberals want to inject their kids with experimental substances that are neither approved nor effective. Of course, the media told them to get it.

You are free to give your kid the jab.
But it makes you a bad parent.



rfenst Offline
#21 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
It's awesome when the liberals want to inject their kids with experimental substances that are neither approved nor effective. Of course, the media told them to get it.

You are free to give your kid the jab.
But it makes you a bad parent.

Stupid comment.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Free speech over a mandated failure Psy Op and you dare call it stupid?


Still don't see it?

You were lied to. You bought it and peddled it here. You weren't alone though. You had lots of help. Lots of vitriol and venom at people that could see the forest for the trees and weren't drinking the company koolaid.
CelticBomber Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Free speech over a mandated failure Psy Op and you dare call it stupid?


Still don't see it?

You were lied to. You bought it and peddled it here. You weren't alone though. You had lots of help. Lots of vitriol and venom at people that could see the forest for the trees and weren't drinking the company koolaid.


You're actually crazy. Mandated PsyOp? When your militia throws a party it must be a crazy night!

Vaccines have been mandated since 1922. Your problem is you don't know what vaccines actually do. All a vaccine does is boost your immune system. Some vaccines result in immunization. Some don't. It's really that simple. Flu shots, which are a vaccine, don't make you immune to the Flu but, it does help fight off the Flu if you get it. Feel free to keep getting your opinions from politicians and conspiracy websites though.

In 5 secs I was able to find 14 conservative politicians and preachers who denied Covid was a problem and refused vaccinations. All 14 died from Covid. I'm sure there are 1000's more. But, you studied all those years to become a virologist right? Oh wait... you got your medical degree from a conspiracy website. RollEyes
DrMaddVibe Offline
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CelticBomber wrote:
You're actually crazy. Mandated PsyOp? When your militia throws a party it must be a crazy night!

Vaccines have been mandated since 1922. Your problem is you don't know what vaccines actually do. All a vaccine does is boost your immune system. Some vaccines result in immunization. Some don't. It's really that simple. Flu shots, which are a vaccine, don't make you immune to the Flu but, it does help fight off the Flu if you get it. Feel free to keep getting your opinions from politicians and conspiracy websites though.

In 5 secs I was able to find 14 conservative politicians and preachers who denied Covid was a problem and refused vaccinations. All 14 died from Covid. I'm sure there are 1000's more. But, you studied all those years to become a virologist right? Oh wait... you got your medical degree from a conspiracy website. RollEyes



When the CDC actually changes the definition of "vaccine"...you might have a problem. But, please continue to peddle.
RayR Offline
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Definitions of words are subject to change without notice

I think that's implied somewhere in these Rules of Bureaucracy.

Rule #1: Maintain the problem at all costs! The problem is the basis of power, perks, privileges, and security.

Rule #2: Use crisis and perceived crisis to increase your power and control.

Rule 2a. Force 11th-hour decisions, threaten the loss of options and opportunities, and limit the opposition's opportunity to review and critique.

Rule #3: If there are not enough crises, manufacture them, even from nature, where none exist.

Rule #4: Control the flow and release of information while feigning openness.

Rule 4a: Deny, delay, obfuscate, spin, and lie.

Rule #5: Maximize public-relations exposure by creating a cover story that appeals to the universal need to help people.

Rule #6: Create vested support groups by distributing concentrated benefits and/or entitlements to these special interests, while distributing the costs broadly to one's political opponents.

Rule #7: Demonize the truth tellers who have the temerity to say, "The emperor has no clothes."
DrMaddVibe Offline
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RayR wrote:
Definitions of words are subject to change without notice

I think that's implied somewhere in these Rules of Bureaucracy.

Rule #1: Maintain the problem at all costs! The problem is the basis of power, perks, privileges, and security.

Rule #2: Use crisis and perceived crisis to increase your power and control.

Rule 2a. Force 11th-hour decisions, threaten the loss of options and opportunities, and limit the opposition's opportunity to review and critique.

Rule #3: If there are not enough crises, manufacture them, even from nature, where none exist.

Rule #4: Control the flow and release of information while feigning openness.

Rule 4a: Deny, delay, obfuscate, spin, and lie.

Rule #5: Maximize public-relations exposure by creating a cover story that appeals to the universal need to help people.

Rule #6: Create vested support groups by distributing concentrated benefits and/or entitlements to these special interests, while distributing the costs broadly to one's political opponents.

Rule #7: Demonize the truth tellers who have the temerity to say, "The emperor has no clothes."


Sounds an awful like a DNC run page to me. If Celtic comes back at me...we'll have confirmation.
RayR Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Sounds an awful like a DNC run page to me. If Celtic comes back at me...we'll have confirmation.


I know, they do sound exactly like the real-life tactics of progressive politics. We await Celtic's response.

The list of rules was compiled by Loyd S. Pettegrew, professor of communication at the University of South Florida and Carol A. Vance, Esq., CPA, an instructor in Tax & Business Law at the University of South Florida, Sarasota-Manatee, and a practicing CPA and tax attorney.

https://mises.org/library/seven-rules-bureaucracy
tailgater Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Stupid comment.



Yet the opposite opinion is considered acceptable. Enlightened. Woke.
And soon.... law abiding.





tailgater Offline
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CelticBomber wrote:


Vaccines have been mandated since 1922. Your problem is you don't know what vaccines actually do. All a vaccine does is boost your immune system. Some vaccines result in immunization. Some don't. It's really that simple. Flu shots, which are a vaccine, don't make you immune to the Flu but, it does help fight off the Flu if you get it. Feel free to keep getting your opinions from politicians and conspiracy websites though.





If what you're saying was true, then the vaccine would not be mandatory. For anyone.
The mandatory status was implemented because we were told that it would prevent the spread.
Which is not what you've said.
At all.

But I'm not surprised that so many feel the way you do. Because that was the message. To do what the media instructed.
Not your doctor.
The media. And the politicians. And therefore the public.


The pandemic of over (*J.Biden)
Yet if you get sick the first question people ask is "did you test positive?"
You didn't get that impulse from your doctor.
You've been played.


MACS Offline
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CelticBomber wrote:
Vaccines have been mandated since 1922. Your problem is you don't know what vaccines actually do. All a vaccine does is boost your immune system. Some vaccines result in immunization. Some don't. It's really that simple. Flu shots, which are a vaccine, don't make you immune to the Flu but, it does help fight off the Flu if you get it. Feel free to keep getting your opinions from politicians and conspiracy websites though.


Yeah, um... the definition of vaccine has changed. Vaccination and Immunization used to be interchangeable. And the flu shot was always called the flu shot... and it is not a vaccine.
CelticBomber Offline
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tailgater wrote:
If what you're saying was true, then the vaccine would not be mandatory. For anyone.
The mandatory status was implemented because we were told that it would HELP prevent the spread.
Which is not what you've said.
At all.


One little word changes the entire context. The Covid vaccine isn't a cure. If you got the vaccine it could help lessen the symptoms and help prevent the spread. That's it. Same thing with wearing mask. Wearing a mask isn't a magic shield. But, if you are infected it can catch a sneeze or a cough and prevent you from spraying the virus 200 feet ahead of you. That's how far your sneeze goes. Wearing the mask helps stop it going that far. Lessening the spread if you're infected.

Covid was detected at the end of 2019. Three months later it had spread around the world. Hospitals were overwhelmed. Those most susceptible started dying off in large numbers. The governments of the world had to act. We got the current vaccine. As time goes on it will get better. Or not if it keeps mutating.

There are different polio vaccines to fight the three variants of the virus. One of them makes you immune but, doesn't prevent you from passing on the virus to others. Not all vaccines are created equal.

The common cold is a virus but, there are so many variants it's impossible to create a vaccine for them all. Same with the Flu. But, the flu can kill you. So, every year they try their best to make an informed guess as to which variants will be the most common and create the flu shot. Which IS a vaccine.

Look at HIV. It's a virus but there is no vaccine. Why? Because not all viruses are the same. You can take antivirals and other medications to suppress the virus but, once you have it you have it for life.

The flu is seasonal. Unless you have a compromised immune system you don't hear people saying I got the flu three times this year. Covid is not seasonal. You hear about people getting it two, three or four times a year all over the world. I've had it twice so far. The first time I had gotten the vaccine and a booster. I got the sniffles. I just got it again at the beginning of October. I'm still not 100% a month later. That's why it was mandated for certain people. It wasn't mandated for every single person. For the past 100 years kids are mandated to get vaccines or they can't go to school. That's gotta be the longest running PsyOp in the history of this country!

Vaccine does NOT equal immunization. Just because you grew up thinking that vaccines equaled a cure doesn't make it true.

Oh and there have been people making the same arguments you guys are now making, since vaccines were first readily available. In 1900 people sued the state of Massachusetts because the state issued a mandatory small pox vaccine. It went to the Supreme Court. The state won. Small Pox was all but eradicated by the 1940's with just over 1000 cases reported. That number is on the rise once again because people are letting politicians and disinformation make their choices for them.


DrMaddVibe Offline
#32 Posted:
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CelticBomber wrote:
The Covid vaccine isn't a cure. If you got the vaccine it could help lessen the symptoms and help prevent the spread. That's it.


Wrong.


Wrong.


And more wrong.
CelticBomber Offline
#33 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Wrong.


Wrong.


And more wrong.


Crazy.


Crazy


And more crazy.

Tell the militia I said hi! Don't forget to update your bugout bag!
frankj1 Offline
#34 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Yeah, um... the definition of vaccine has changed. Vaccination and Immunization used to be interchangeable. And the flu shot was always called the flu shot... and it is not a vaccine.

I don't believe the definitions of the two words have changed. I think that currently many consider them to mean the same thing but that is not exactly how I understand things...though the two words are undeniably related to each other.

I was taught that vaccines are used to create an immunity in bodies, more a cause and effect thing than synonymous terms.


*the preceding was paid for by a non-political intent virus avoider.
Mr. Jones Offline
#35 Posted:
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The CDC RECOMMENDATION FOR MORE "SHOTS" OF THE DEATH "VACCINE" THAT DONT WORK BUT CAUSES ILL SIDE EFFECTS IN FIDDY++ PERCENT OF RECIEPIANTS CAN GO POUND SAND AND JAM THAT VACCINE UP THEIR INDIVIDUAL STARFISHES....

IS WHAT I SAY...

SCREW THE NEW SUB VARIANT OMICRON DEATH LIQUID IN GLASS VIALS OF DOOM......

NO WAY IN HELL DO I NEED ANOTHER MALIDAY WITHIN ONE WEEK LIKE MY NEW FOOT NUEROPATHY THAT I DID NOT HAVE 7 DAYS PRIOR TO GETTING MY SECOND SHOT...

FAUCCI CAN LICK MY TAINT...

SCREW THE CDC...
HockeyDad Offline
#36 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
I don't believe the definitions of the two words have changed. I think that currently many consider them to mean the same thing but that is not exactly how I understand things...though the two words are undeniably related to each other.

I was taught that vaccines are used to create an immunity in bodies, more a cause and effect thing than synonymous terms.


*the preceding was paid for by a non-political intent virus avoider.


Actually they did change the definition of “vaccine”.
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Tobacco companies should be leading the search for a cure for cancer. The day one is found, cigarette sales are going to spike about 500,000% from all the people that quit due to health reasons.
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HockeyDad wrote:
Actually they did change the definition of “vaccine”.

from what to what?
what about immunization?
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HockeyDad wrote:
Actually they did change the definition of “vaccine”.


This is a fact. The CDC changed their definition on a "vaccine" in Sept 2021.

A simple Google search will confirm it. The data is out there. I'd give you the links to the sources but you probably wouldn't understand it.

Tirty NINE!
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frankj1 wrote:
from what to what?
what about immunization?


The data is out there if you want to look for it. It's well publicized but you probably wouldn't understand it.
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Wait, I'm still unclear. Is the data out there, and is it likely Frankie will understand?
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I'd probably understand anything that anyone here can understand, maybe more.
I was going by definitions in response to Shawn...as in dictionaries.

So a vaccine no longer is intended to help bodies create immunization?
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frankj1 wrote:
I'd probably understand anything that anyone here can understand, maybe more.
I was going by definitions in response to Shawn...as in dictionaries.

So a vaccine no longer is intended to help bodies create immunization?


Some that used to post here would say otherwise. They were self proclaimed experts, claimed to have data and did conference calls with some real high level experts in the field on a daily basis (when the entire "trust the science" scam was going on). They spent years and years on working on virology, mRNA, vaccines and stuff but when challenged to provide proof or back up their claims on this whole fiasco, they said that you are not smart enough to understand.

(Cough, couph... Tdub, Spey, Victor, Brewha) I don't mind calling out names. These are a few that lambasted folks on the board when they questioned the status quo.

Like an onion, as one peals back the layers and the truth starts to be revealed and we see things for what they are, those that are exposed are not willing to show up and admit that they were wrong. The CDC, the pharma, the local, state and federal governments and all the actors, and those that beat the drum all along the way have a case of Fonzie-ism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkqgDoo_eZE
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BuckyB93 wrote:
This is a fact. The CDC changed their definition on a "vaccine" in Sept 2021.

A simple Google search will confirm it. The data is out there. I'd give you the links to the sources but you probably wouldn't understand it.

Tirty NINE!


whip
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frankj1 wrote:
I don't believe the definitions of the two words have changed. I think that currently many consider them to mean the same thing but that is not exactly how I understand things...though the two words are undeniably related to each other.

I was taught that vaccines are used to create an immunity in bodies, more a cause and effect thing than synonymous terms.


*the preceding was paid for by a non-political intent virus avoider.


Childhood "vaccines" or childhood "immunizations". Same-same, no? But when we got those shots as a kid... it made us "immune" to the diseases for which they were administered.

THAT used to be what a vaccine was. Now we have covid shots that do not work for frank's sake, and we're calling them vaccines and trying to mandate them for school children who, as the "science" has shown... don't frankin' need them.
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MACS wrote:
Childhood "vaccines" or childhood "immunizations". Same-same, no? But when we got those shots as a kid... it made us "immune" to the diseases for which they were administered.

THAT used to be what a vaccine was. Now we have covid shots that do not work for frank's sake, and we're calling them vaccines and trying to mandate them for school children who, as the "science" has shown... don't frankin' need them.



Stop explaining to them.

These are the same people that still wear masks, carry vax cards and would willingingly force lockdowns on society so we don't kill grandma and other nonesense while their voting puts cowards in charge that force the sick into nursing homes, shut down schools and want you to vax your children with their shot.

Git yer boostahs!
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In order to fall asleep, you have to first pretend to be asleep
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
In order to fall asleep, you have to first pretend to be asleep


I just read a book.
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Or watch some soccer or golf

Four tee NINE!
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