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Dominion vs. FOX Lies and Propaganda
rfenst Offline
#1 Posted:
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‪"@willsommer‬⁩
This filing in the Dominion lawsuit against Fox News is one of the most remarkable documents I've ever seen. Filled with private texts between Fox stars like Hannity and Carlson, plus Murdoch, all admitting they knew Fox's stolen election claims were lies. int.nyt.com/data/documentt…"



This memo of law is probably the best I’ve ever read. It just took a bunch of good lawyers and the discovery process to prove Fox sells lies and propaganda to unwitting viewers. Their own internal texts and emails prove it.

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/redacted-documents-in-dominion-fox-news-case/dca5e3880422426f/full.pdf
Sunoverbeach Offline
#2 Posted:
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No way, man. You're not tricking me into reading case study
RayR Online
#3 Posted:
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Sounds to me like some weaselly LEFTY lawyers for Dominion are trying to chill First Amendment-protected speech and make a fat payday for themselves. That's all.

Even though Robert seems quite impressed, I could care less about private conversations between media personalities or executives whether real, cherry-picked out of context, made up, or hearsay.

I don't care if "Fox sells lies and propaganda to unwitting viewers". After all the LEFTY media, weaselly lawyers and the regime do it all the time. As a witting viewer, I make my own judgments based on facts and evidence, and as far as elections go the historical evidence that there have been dirty deeds going on for a long time in this country is irrefutable and it's just gotten worse. Can't you smell the shenanigans? Mail-in voting, ballot harvesting, hackable electronic voting machines, etc...
MACS Offline
#4 Posted:
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Not a fan of FOX news, either. I have said it before, they're slightly less left than the rest of them so they seem right to some.

They're not. They're lying sacks of sheit like the rest.

Let's see if Dominion wins the lawsuit... and if they do, doesn't mean they didn't do anything wrong.
ZRX1200 Offline
#5 Posted:
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I have been here long enough to remember hanging chads, this is definitely the zombie posting….Robert would never straight repost a tweet to troll BOTL.

Nice try stePHan, if you even see this after you blocked me when I caught onto your game
Brewha Offline
#6 Posted:
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Fox knew the “stolen election” was a total lie and helped sell it.

Sadly many a chump bought it….
ZRX1200 Offline
#7 Posted:
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I see your stolen election and raise you Russian collusion!

Ha!

We used government levers of power, not just a show you don’t watch.


#WINNING
RayR Online
#8 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Fox knew the “on for a long time election” was a total lie and helped sell it.

Sadly many a chump bought it….


The real CHUMPS voted for Biden. Frying pan
8trackdisco Offline
#9 Posted:
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For giggles, I listened yesterday to Fox Radio on and off most of the day.

Probably just a coincidence I was unable to hear any information about this court case.
CamoRoon Offline
#10 Posted:
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MACS wrote:


Let's see if Dominion wins the lawsuit... and if they do, doesn't mean they didn't do anything wrong.


I am only hoping that a trial such as this can finally reveal what exploitable weaknesses exist in the machine, the software and the handling of the votes. The American people have seen the 2000 Mules movie which by necessity must shed doubt about some aspects but nobody has spent as much time and effort convincing the people that our voting process is honest and secure. The one thing the government could have done was an in depth investigation to restore the faith of the people but mostly what they got was denials and name calling. That said, with all the evidence that Congress has about questionable dealings in the Biden family, most news media won't even mention it and DOJ will certainly resist or stall on getting involved. So what are the chances that should malfeasance be detected in the Dominion machines that we would ever learn about it? It all makes no difference about the past but means a great deal in the future.
Brewha Offline
#11 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
For giggles, I listened yesterday to Fox Radio on and off most of the day.

Probably just a coincidence I was unable to hear any information about this court case.


That's because Dominion has them dead to rights.

Next on Fox: "The election was stole without any trace of evidence - Big Foot not only did it, but must be a Lefty"

Some people with believe anything....
RayR Online
#12 Posted:
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I heard there is never any evidence if you ignore the evidence. Simple Eh?
HockeyDad Offline
#13 Posted:
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Just make your own truth. That’s a thing.
Stogie1020 Offline
#14 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Just make your own truth. That’s a thing.

I fact-checked that and it's: FALSE

Signed, Stogie1020 (They, their, whos, wheres)
Ram27 Offline
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SETTLED Applause
rfenst Offline
#16 Posted:
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CamoRoon wrote:
I am only hoping that a trial such as this can finally reveal what exploitable weaknesses exist in the machine, the software and the handling of the votes. The American people have seen the 2000 Mules movie which by necessity must shed doubt about some aspects but nobody has spent as much time and effort convincing the people that our voting process is honest and secure. The one thing the government could have done was an in depth investigation to restore the faith of the people but mostly what they got was denials and name calling. That said, with all the evidence that Congress has about questionable dealings in the Biden family, most news media won't even mention it and DOJ will certainly resist or stall on getting involved. So what are the chances that should malfeasance be detected in the Dominion machines that we would ever learn about it? It all makes no difference about the past but means a great deal in the future.

I am certain FOX spent ungodly sums of money on discovery looking for any proof that its claims about Dominion were true. Had FOX been able to prove the truth of its allegations, the case would have been discussed a long time ago by judicial summary judgement. But, FOX lost a ton more than money, in the form of judicial findings that are now legally indisputable. They even got caught failing to turn over documents they were illegally hiding. And, $750 million isn't chump change. FOX wouldn't have paid it if they didn't think they were dead in the water.
rfenst Offline
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Ram27 wrote:
SETTLED Applause

The best kind of legal outcome!
HockeyDad Offline
#18 Posted:
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So Dominion got away with it?
Brewha Offline
#19 Posted:
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Fox News admitted they lied - 3/4 of a Billion dollars worth.

Sad that so many believed them. Sadder still that some will still believe the lies.



What will they lie about next?
I hear that Tucker Carlson is selling that we should not help Ukraine and should be backing communist Russia.

Guess that's why some people where red hats...
Mr. Jones Offline
#20 Posted:
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Half PRICE FIRE SALE !!!!!

ROBERT MURDOCH CAVES....

A
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S.A.V.E.S. $$$$$ ON LAWYERS, PER DIEMS, BAD PRESS, MASSIVE REJECTION AT THE COUNTRY CLUB...SAVES FACE AND TIME...AND $800 MILLION...

IT WAS A NO BRAINER...
Mr. Jones Offline
#21 Posted:
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RUPERT

NOT

ROBERT

SOOO
SORRRY
Mr. Jones Offline
#22 Posted:
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Buttttttt....

$760? Million in CASH IS VERY HARD FOF ANYONE OR ANY COMPANY TO ROUND UP PRONTO LIKE...
MUST BE SOME KINDA PAYMENT PLAN AGREEMENT?

WONDER HOW MANY SHARES OF FOX NEWS DOMINION VOTING MACHINE CO. WILL TAKE INSTEAD OF SOME OF THE CASH???
8trackdisco Offline
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Ram27 wrote:
SETTLED Applause


From a source at NewsNation, Fox News make a profit of 1 billion per year. This settlement was for 750 million? 3/4 of a year's revenue? Love that.

Now go after those lying basssssstards at MSNBC and NPR.
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I heard from a fairly reliable financial source that FOX had around 4 Billion in cash available. There is a another suit against them on the way, so they may need it soon. Also there are some other suits against individuals other that the cocaine pillow selling guy.



frankj1 Offline
#25 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
From a source at NewsNation, Fox News make a profit of 1 billion per year. This settlement was for 750 million? 3/4 of a year's revenue? Love that.

Now go after those lying basssssstards at MSNBC and NPR.

and someone will go after them... if they believe they were harmed by those news networks knowingly lying about stuff as yuuuuge as being accused of fixing an election!
RayR Online
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NewsNation? Those are the morons who hired Chris Cuomo. They say they are "your trusted source for breaking news, unbiased U.S. news & video delivered from the heartland of America delivered 24/7."
Hiring Chris Cuomo and then saying you are unbiased? Liar
Brewha Offline
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I just share a quote regarding the settlement:

"Fox news is fair and balanced... Mellow "
- DrafterX
frankj1 Offline
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Brewha wrote:
I just share a quote regarding the settlement:

"Fox news is fair and balanced... Mellow "
- DrafterX

did they cover the settlement?

HA!
rfenst Offline
#29 Posted:
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They settled, but the judge isn't done with FOX. He appointed a special magistrate to look into all the evidence FOX illegally hid- such that it wasn't discovered until like the eve of trial.

Some lawyers may lose their licenses.

Some lawyers and/or FOX execs could be heavily fined and/or found in criminal contempt of court and sentenced to jail time if the offenses were egregious enough.

And, everyone else suing FOX will now get to have that same evidence and FOX and/or its lawyers will be in the same trouble for the same thing all over again.





delta1 Offline
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Fox got Trumped 7-8 years ago...and then, predictably, got thumped...and will get thumped some more...

and now, even Trump has dumped on Fox and jumped off the bandwagon after he singlehandedly ruined the brand and drove the wagon into a ditch...some serious winning...


so the movie "2000 Mules" that all the "Let's Go Brandon" peeps were hollering about was just a buncha hoo-ha mule sh*t??? Like all the stuff Trump and his cronies and legal crooks have been bellowing since Fox News declared Brandon the winner of the election...

yup, mule sh*t... judges in every state where Trump filed election fraud lawsuits (63 total) said there wasn't a shred of evidence of election fraud brought forward...


Trump was proved right.... Trump: "If you say it long enough, hard enough, often enough, people will start to believe it."
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Voting machines would never error…

https://wtop.com/virginia/2023/04/virginia-discovers-nearly-19000-dead-people-on-voter-rolls/
Brewha Offline
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JGKAMIN wrote:
Voting machines would never error…

https://wtop.com/virginia/2023/04/virginia-discovers-nearly-19000-dead-people-on-voter-rolls/

As if the internets never lie…
Brewha Offline
#33 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
Fox got Trumped 7-8 years ago...and then, predictably, got thumped...and will get thumped some more...

and now, even Trump has dumped on Fox and jumped off the bandwagon after he singlehandedly ruined the brand and drove the wagon into a ditch...some serious winning...


so the movie "2000 Mules" that all the "Let's Go Brandon" peeps were hollering about was just a buncha hoo-ha mule sh*t??? Like all the stuff Trump and his cronies and legal crooks have been bellowing since Fox News declared Brandon the winner of the election...

yup, mule sh*t... judges in every state where Trump filed election fraud lawsuits (63 total) said there wasn't a shred of evidence of election fraud brought forward...


Trump was proved right.... Trump: "If you say it long enough, hard enough, often enough, people will start to believe it."

You left out the part where 1/3 of the population will believe any god damn thing.
And so we have Republicans….
HockeyDad Offline
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Perhaps this can be seized upon to eliminate Fox altogether.
JGKAMIN Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
Perhaps this can be seized upon to eliminate Fox altogether.

Definitely, that way all of the news would bear a far left spin.
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That's the goal... Mellow
rfenst Offline
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Dominion’s C.E.O.: We Settled the Lawsuit Against Fox News, but We’re Not Done Yet



Opinion NYT

Vindication. Shame. Triumph. Tragedy. Surrender. These are a few of the characterizations I’ve heard following our recent settlement with Fox News in our historic defamation case against the network for its lies about Dominion Voting Systems and the 2020 election.

The public has complicated feelings about our decision to end this trial before it ever began, and that’s OK. It’s bittersweet for us, too.

We’ve seen the havoc that lies create for societies, democracies, businesses and families. Over the past two and a half years, I’ve watched it firsthand. My customers, employees, family and friends face harassment, discrimination and threats to this day.

But for us at Dominion, when we reflect on the case and its outcome, we think about our first and foremost goal: accountability.

On Tuesday, when we proudly walked into the Delaware Superior Court, we were going to trial. We knew our case was incredibly strong, and I still believe that at the end of the six-week trial, the jury most likely would have agreed.

We had reviewed more than a million internal Fox documents and deposed dozens of people, and Fox’s legal team had reviewed more than a million of ours. Then, in a summary judgment ruling on March 31, the court allowed the case to proceed and dismantled many of Fox’s legal defenses, ruling its claims about Dominion were clearly false and it could not seek refuge in arguments about the lies’ newsworthiness.

At trial, we weren’t expecting any more shocking revelations — we frankly didn’t need any more. From the earliest days of discovery, we knew our employees, our customers and the American public needed to see what we had found, and that is exactly what we presented in our pretrial filings and exhibits.

With that goal now met, we were focused on our obligations to our people — many of whom were set to testify, when they would recount trauma caused by the threats, violence and hate surfaced by lies about Dominion. I’d already seen some of them suffer emotionally during their depositions, and I worried deeply that a trial and associated media attention would cause only more lasting pain.

The settlement we negotiated accomplished two critical goals: allowing our employees and customers to move forward, and hitting Fox where it hurt most — its bank account.

What was missing was an apology, so I myself drafted one for it that I thought would be appropriate to include. When I read it to my business partner, he asked what I thought about mandating Fox issue an apology that would be forced, insincere and limited. At that moment, I threw my draft in the garbage.

An hour later, when the Fox board approved the wire payment for $787.5 million — one of the largest known defamation settlements in history — Fox acknowledged what we needed it to acknowledge: spreading false claims comes with a huge price tag.

Even so, nothing can ever fully compensate for what happened. The stain on my company’s reputation and our employees’ and customers’ emotional scars can only fade. They won’t ever vanish.

If we could, we would trade it all in a heartbeat to go back in time to get our reputation back. But I take solace in the fact that the public has seen the enormous mountain of evidence proving what Fox did, and Fox paid dearly for it.

Our settlement with Fox is just one win on a long road. We have six more defamation cases pending: against Mike Lindell and his company, MyPillow; Rudy Giuliani; Sidney Powell; Patrick Byrne; One America News Network; and Newsmax. We will not stop until we hold all parties to full account.
MACS Offline
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CNN settled a couple times in the last handful of years. Right off the top of my head I can think of the Christian kid with the goofy smile. They peddled sheit they knew were lies. Like I said... the entirety of the media, pretty much in the world, is owned by 6 billionaires. They'll let you know what you need to know... trust them.

Methinks dominion doth protest too much.
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You mean these?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/media/cnn-settles-lawsuit-viral-video/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/24/media/washington-post-sandmann-settlement-lawsuit/index.html
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2021/12/17/covington-catholic-grad-nick-sandmann-reaches-settlement-nbc/8946470002/


The terms of these settlements have not been made public. "Here's some money, now shut up and go away so we can pretend it never happened"

The mainstream press/media now days are whores. They have devolved into the tabloid rags you see at the check out registers claiming Queen whoever and such had an appendectomy from some alien life form.

I cannot remember the last time I sat down and watched live or channel TV (other than streaming and stuff). If I were to guess, it was probably the Packers in the playoffs this past season.

Three NINE! er
Mr. Jones Offline
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Dominion is " riding the massive ever getting bigger SNOWBALL from the top of Mt.Everest" and shows no slowing down or getting anything but big , bigger, biggest....

Those NEXT SIX F#KS ARE SH#TTING IN THEIR PANTS AS WE POST...
frankj1 Offline
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if someone can't see the difference between peddling stuff that leans in a left or right direction vs peddling stuff they know is undermining elections we all believe are important and want to support than someone should look a little deeper at the question of party over country.
Gene363 Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
if someone can't see the difference between peddling stuff that leans in a left or right direction vs peddling stuff they know is undermining elections we all believe are important and want to support than someone should look a little deeper at the question of party over country.


Yes, like resisting voting reformations such as requiring a voter ID and voter list purges of dead people. Dead people should not be voting and the raciest notion that minorities cannot get an ID to vote is not true.
Brewha Offline
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And don’t forget about those Jewish space lasers….
rfenst Offline
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Dominion is " riding the massive ever getting bigger SNOWBALL from the top of Mt.Everest" and shows no slowing down or getting anything but big , bigger, biggest....

Those NEXT SIX F#KS ARE SH#TTING IN THEIR PANTS AS WE POST...

You totally get it.
It's simple, classic, defamation of another's reputation for truth or dishonesty.
Still, tough for the aggrieved to win.
But, no one pays $750 million without believing the outcome could ultimately be much worse.
Slam dunk legal cases. The other's should be chitting in their pants.
Punitive damages too?
RayR Online
#45 Posted:
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A maddeningly overly litigious society where everyone can sue practically anyone for outrageous sums of money because they are butthurt is a sign of the end of times.
Trial lawyers are leading the charge to the abyss and laughing all the way.
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