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Is this what you call REDUCING INFLATION?
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THE BIG LIE! Liar

The Inflation Reduction Act Price Jumps From $385 Billion to Over $1 Trillion

Penn Wharton revised its estimate of the cost of the inflation reduction act significantly higher based on Biden's actual implementation of the deal.

MISH APR 27, 2023

https://mishtalk.com/economics/the-inflation-reduction-act-price-jumps-from-385-billion-to-over-1-trillion
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“Reduction” is kinda a living term like the constitution is a living document.
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But we’re crashing the dollar so it’s a moot point!!!
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At least all those GREEN millionaires and billionaires will be sitting pretty because of BIDEN FACISM.
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More on the so-called Inflation Reduction Act

I thought this was hilarious seeing one of Lyin' Biden's Green New Deal Climate propagandists backed up against the wall spouting non-answers and gibberish. Well done Sen. John Kennedy...well done sir.

$50 Trillion For What? Kennedy Dumbfounds Biden Climate Peddler In Fiery Exchange Over 'Carbon Neutrality'

BY TYLER DURDEN

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Biden Deputy Secretary of Energy David Turk highlighted the absurdity of the climate grift this week during a Senate Appropriations Subcommittee hearing, when Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) couldn't get a straight answer out of him over the cost of going 'carbon neutral.'

In a tense exchange, Kennedy repeatedly attempted to get Turk to give a straightforward answer to just how much American taxpayers will have to pay to achieve the Biden administration's goal of reaching US carbon neutrality by 2050.

When Kennedy asked whether some of the "experts" Turk referred to earlier were correct in a $50 trillion estimate, Turk nodded his head, and said "It’s gonna cost trillions of dollars, there’s no doubt about it."

"f we spend $50 trillion to become carbon neutral by 2050 in the United States of America, how much is that going to reduce world temperatures?" Kennedy replied. The conversation continued (transcription via the Daily Caller)

Turk: “So, every country around the world needs to get its act together. Our emissions are about 13% of global emissions right now…”

Kennedy: “Yeah, but if you could answer my question. If we spend $50 trillion to become carbon neutral in the U.S. by 2050, you’re the Deputy Secretary of Energy, give me your estimate of how much that is going to reduce world temperatures.”

Turk: “So, first of all, it’s a net cost. It’s what, um, benefits we’re having from getting our act together and reducing all of those costs and climate benefits…”

Kennedy: “Let me ask you. Maybe I’m not being clear. If we spend $50 trillion to become carbon neutral by 2050 in the United States of America, how much is that going to reduce world temperatures?”

Turk: “This is a global problem, so we need to reduce our emissions and we need to do everything to, uh…”

Kennedy: “How much of we do our part is it going to reduce global temperatures?”

Turk: “So, we’re 13% of global emissions…”

Kennedy: “You don’t know, do you? You don’t know, do you?”

More...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/50-trillion-what-kennedy-dumbfounds-biden-climate-peddler-fiery-exchange-over-carbon

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RayR wrote:
At least all those GREEN millionaires and billionaires will be sitting pretty because of BIDEN FACISM.



I resemble that remark! I got in green energy in 2009. I could envision the gold mine we were building. Fast forward 14 years and we’ve got kids in school on antidepressants because they think the world is going to end because of climate change!
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If we spend $50 trillion to become carbon neutral in the U.S. by 2050, you’re the Deputy Secretary of Energy, give me your estimate of how much that is going to reduce world temperatures?

I know the answer that the Deputy Secretary of Energy David Turk did not know…..It will reduce world temperatures by zero degrees! I also know the solution….we need to spend another 50 trillion!
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HockeyDad wrote:
If we spend $50 trillion to become carbon neutral in the U.S. by 2050, you’re the Deputy Secretary of Energy, give me your estimate of how much that is going to reduce world temperatures?

I know the answer that the Deputy Secretary of Energy David Turk did not know…..It will reduce world temperatures by zero degrees! I also know the solution….we need to spend another 50 trillion!


I'm glad you lowered your morality and intellect temporarily HD so you could see things more clearly through the eyes of a bureaucrat. It's a cross we must sometimes bear to understand our enemy's strategy.
To the bureaucrat and low-life politician, failure is its own reward, failure is just another excuse to pillage and spend more stolen loot on exactly what failed the first time or even the second or third time.
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But we’re crashing the dollar so it’s a moot point!!!


And you absolutely cannot convince me this isn't being done on purpose. We're f**ked 6 ways to Sunday.
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You just have to recognize that you can fight the government from your double-wide all you want but they still make the laws and are the largest consumer. You can also choose to come alongside the government and get on board and get a mansion on a hill.

You will enjoy your electric car.
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Get your spot on the bench for the guy with the wrench!
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HockeyDad wrote:

You will enjoy your electric car.


+1

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HockeyDad wrote:
You just have to recognize that you can fight the government from your double-wide all you want but they still make the laws and are the largest consumer. You can also choose to come alongside the government and get on board and get a mansion on a hill.

You will enjoy your electric car.


Don't forget that you'll cook your food (bugs probably) and heat your home with electricity too and like it.
Them fossil fuels have got to go.
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RayR wrote:
Don't forget that you'll cook your food (bugs probably) and heat your home with electricity too and like it.
Them fossil fuels have got to go.



About those bugs….there are rules for thee.
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And you absolutely cannot convince me this isn't being done on purpose. We're f**ked 6 ways to Sunday.

Why do you think that with such certainty? Here is an opinion based in part on different economist's beliefs. Not saying he is right. Not saying he is wrong. No way to know for sure until enough time passes and we can look backwards on this one. It's just a prediction game with insufficient data and equations before an event occurs. On the other hand, economics can be dead-on accurate about certain things when the data is known. BTW, he did win the Nobel Prize in Economics, if that even matters...



What’s Driving Dollar Doomsaying?


By Paul Krugman
NYT Opinion

You’re reading the Paul Krugman newsletter, for Times subscribers only. A guide to U.S. politics and the economy — from the mainstream to the wonkish.

Talk of “de-dollarization” and its dire consequences for the U.S. economy seems to be all over the place lately. Somehow, my previous efforts to dampen the frenzy haven’t worked.

Where’s this coming from? Much of it is from the usual suspects, such as the crypto cult, people for whom Bitcoin is the answer regardless of the question. Some of it, I think, is coming from Putin sympathizers, who want us to believe that America will be punished for, as they see it, “weaponizing” the dollar against the invasion of — I mean, special military operation in — Ukraine.

Elon Musk is among those warning that weaponizing the dollar will destroy its reserve currency status, because of course he is.

But what inspired me to write about the subject (again) is that lately more sober voices, who should know better, are sounding the alarm. International relations experts like Fareed Zakaria warn that the dollar is a superpower we’re in danger of losing. Even economic analysts like Michael Pettis, whom I’ve found to be a valuable source of insights on China, seem to believe that dollar dominance is the only reason America can run persistent large trade deficits.

All of this is very odd. Even if you believe that the dollar’s dominance is in imminent danger — which you shouldn’t — a look at what that dominance actually entails makes it clear that the importance of controlling the world’s reserve currency is greatly overrated.

What do we mean by saying that the dollar is a dominant currency? There’s a very nice summary in the first few pages of a 2021 paper by Gita Gopinath, now a top official at the International Monetary Fund, and Jeremy Stein. As they note, much of world trade is invoiced and settled in U.S. dollars; many banks based outside the United States nonetheless offer dollar-denominated deposits; many non-U.S. corporations borrow in dollars; central banks hold a large share of their reserves in dollar assets; and maybe (the evidence here is weaker) interest rates are lower, other things equal, when you borrow in dollars than when you borrow in other currencies.

This is all very impressive. But how much of it redounds to the benefit of the U.S. economy? Why, exactly, should America care whether a contract between Chinese exporters and Brazilian importers is written in dollars as opposed to yuan or reais?

A lot of what’s written about this subject begins with the assertion that the special role of the dollar gives America a unique ability to run a large balance of payments deficits, year after year, presumably because the dollar’s status forces other countries to accept our money. But even a quick look at the data shows that this claim is false. Yes, America has run persistent deficits, but so have other countries. We’re not even at the top of the league table.

Let’s look at the balance of payments on current accounts — the trade balance broadly defined, so as to include services and investment income, such as interest payments, as well as trade in goods. And let’s look at advanced economies that have their own currencies — that is, leave out members of the euro area. Here’s what we get for the decade before Covid struck:

(graph)

It turns out that there are multiple nations able to run persistent deficits, and several have run bigger deficits relative to the size of their economies than we have. Britain, which has the deepest deficits, used to own a globally dominant currency — but the pound sterling stopped playing any important international role generations ago. The Australian dollar and the Canadian dollar have never been widely used outside their issuing nations.

So where does the idea that dollar dominance gives us a special ability to run deficits come from? I guess it’s just something that sounds as if it should be true, which I’ll come back to in a minute. But first, are there any other ways in which America gains special advantages from the dollar’s dominance?

Well, it’s possible that the worldwide use of the dollar creates the perception that dollar bonds are safe assets, so that America can borrow more cheaply than other nations. It’s hard to tell, because there are multiple factors affecting interest rates — and U.S. borrowing costs are not, in fact, noticeably lower than those of other advanced countries. If there’s any effect, however, it must be small. I won’t go through the arithmetic, but I can’t see any way that, considering all this together, dollar dominance is worth more to America than a fraction of 1 percent of G.D.P.

Why, then, are people making such a big deal over the possible end of dollar dominance? The answer, I believe, is that global currency issues come across as glamorous and mysterious, so people imagine that they must be important — and yes, some people like to talk about them because they think it makes them sound sophisticated. You have to actually work with the numbers to appreciate how little is really at stake.

Which means that I’m almost reluctant to add that reports of the dollar’s coming demise are also probably greatly exaggerated. The aforementioned paper by Gopinath and Stein offers a detailed analysis of one channel through which the dollar maintains its dominance, adding to a long literature that includes, among other things, some old papers by yours truly. The bottom line in most of this analysis is that the dollar is widely used because it’s widely used — that all of the various roles the dollar plays create a web of self-reinforcement, keeping the dollar pre-eminent.

The point is that tugging on one or two strands of this web isn’t likely to cause it to unravel. Even if some governments express a desire to see payments conducted in other currencies, it’s not at all clear they can make that happen, since we’re mostly talking about private-sector decisions. And even if they can make partial de-dollarization stick, all the other advantages of the dollar as a banking and borrowing currency will remain.

So ignore all the dollar doomers out there. Or better yet, consider what their hyping of a nonissue says about their own judgment.
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Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009, but nobody still understands why. Confused



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"Upon Krugman's award of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics, many in the economic community voiced disapproval. Peter Boettke stated "the Swedes just made perhaps the worst decision in the history of the prize today in naming Paul Krugman the 2008 award winner [...] today I would say is a sad day for economics, not a day to be celebrated."[79] Economist Bill Anderson deemed the announcement indicative "that outright political partisanship is not a deterrent to winning."[80] Russell Roberts of George Mason University called it "just another reminder that those of us who believe in liberty are in for a long time in the intellectual wilderness."[81] Robert Higgs stated Krugman’s selection made a travesty of the prize and constitutes "an insult to the few excellent economists [...] who have received the prize in the past." Higgs wrote: "For economists who would like the Nobel Prize to mean something, today is a very sad day."[72]

In a 2010 video blog, investment broker and financial-economic commentator Peter Schiff stated "if they ever took away Nobel Prizes for something that shows a complete lack of understanding of economics, certainly Paul Krugman would be the first candidate where the commission asked for their Nobel Prize back.".

Praised by Austrians

While noting the many differences with Paul Krugman, James Miller has pointed out that many bloggers who promote the Austrian point of view commend Krugman's older, lesser-known book, Pop Internationalism. The book is a collection of 13 essays highlighting the benefits of free trade and showing the fallacies of protectionism. After all, Krugman won the Nobel Prize for his contributions to "new trade theory," not for his continuing calls for massive stimulus spending and raising taxes on the rich, nor for accusing conservatives of being monsters bent on impoverishing the whole country.

Krugman's basic premise throughout the book is that free and globalized trade is not something a wealthy country such as the United States should fear, but rather something it should embrace. Protectionist fears of free trade such as "massive unemployment" and "trade deficits" are unjustified according to Krugman, because:
“what drives trade is comparative rather than absolute advantage. Maintaining productivity growth and technological progress is extremely important; but it is important for its own sake, not because it is necessary to keep up with international competition. ”

Krugman points out that the idea of a country adopting an industrial policy to help certain "high-value" industries to be competitive in the world economy is superfluous. "Why," Krugman asks, "weren't private markets already doing their job?" He goes on to state that "the productivity of the average American worker is determined by a complex array of factors, most of them unreachable by any government policy."

To top off his embrace of market efficiency over government policy, he even goes on to acknowledge that government intervention to improve competitiveness can ultimately lead to "misallocations of resources." That is not a far cry from the inflation-induced "malinvestments" that the likes of Mises, Hayek, and Rothbard have warned about for the past century.

Throughout Pop Internationalism, Paul Krugman makes a great case for how free trade and the global economy raise the living standards of both wealthy and impoverished nations. Despite the book's flaws, writes Miller, Krugman does a great job at dismissing unfounded fears about free trade.

https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman


There must be two Paul Krugmans',. One once believed in free trade and free markets and was against government interventions and there's the other Keynesian smuck we know now, probably a doppelganger that murdered the other.

"Krugman won the Nobel Prize for his contributions to "new trade theory," not for his continuing calls for massive stimulus spending and raising taxes on the rich, nor for accusing conservatives of being monsters bent on impoverishing the whole country"
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Paul Krugman 🤣🤣🤣
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Where’s the Recession We Were Promised?

The economy and the jobs market turned out to be far less sensitive to interest rates than economists thought, at least so far

WSJ

The 2023 recession is missing in action. At the end of last year, economists were more convinced than they’ve ever been that recession was on the way, but it refused to arrive. Now investors, economists and Federal Reserve policy makers are giving up on the idea, expecting the economy to be (a bit) stronger and stock prices and bond yields to be higher.

Why aren’t we in recession? Is it still on the way? And could it be that the recession forecasts perversely helped us avoid recession?

The recession didn’t arrive because we had two pieces of surprising good news. First, energy prices dropped, helping support demand, as Europe secured supplies to replace Russian gas more easily than expected.

Second, the economy and the jobs market turned out to be far less sensitive to interest rates than economists thought, at least so far. Companies and consumers had locked in long-dated loans with low rates during the pandemic. Household savings piles took time to run down. And workers got big raises, more than inflation. All these factors supported consumption and business. Rebounding stock and credit markets and steadyish long-dated Treasury yields meant overall U.S. financial conditions have eased since October even as the Fed tried to tighten them.

Many of these factors could reverse, as I discussed in my last column. But the biggest warning sign that recession has been delayed, not defeated, is that short-term interest rates remain well above 10-year Treasury yields, what’s known as an inverted yield curve.

An inverted yield curve tells us one thing with reasonable certainty: Investors don’t think the current level of interest rates can last. At some point rates bite, the economy slows, inflation comes down and the Fed cuts rates again. There’s a complication in that Fed holdings of long-term Treasurys may be suppressing their yields, but the basic point is that markets and most economists agree that at some point rates are going to come down again.

History tells us more: In the U.S., rates usually come down again because there’s a recession. But not always. In 1966 the curve inverted without signaling recession, although each of the next eight recessions was preceded by an inversion, with no more false signals. The yield-curve record in other major countries is much worse, with the U.K. inverting six times with only three recessions since the 1980s. (It is inverted again now.)

I find it hard to believe that the 2019 inversion predicted the pandemic, or that the 1973 inversion predicted the Arab oil embargo. In both cases, those keen on the yield-curve signal would have to argue that even without the surprise shocks there would have been a recession. Equally, the U.S. “recession” of 2001 never had the two successive quarters of falling gross domestic product that’s used as the definition for most countries; the U.S. goes by a broader view taken by a committee of eight academic economists instead.

Definitions matter, in part because no one really knows whether the economy is growing or shrinking, and frequent large revisions can change the story many years later. Use the income measure rather than the more-popular output measure of GDP—they ought to be the same—and the U.S. economy has shrunk for the past two quarters. Maybe the yield curve was right and we’re already in recession, but didn’t notice?

The yield curve may also have turned into a causal element as much as a predictive one. Campbell Harvey, a professor at Duke University, points out that investors and economists learned a hard lesson in 2008-2009, as many had dismissed the earlier yield-curve warning.

The inversion could cause a recession in two ways. First, it could become a self-fulfilling prophecy, as investors and CEOs see the inverted yield curve as a signal to cut back risk-taking in expectation of recession, creating the very economic weakness they were worrying about. Second, an inverted curve hurts the basic business model of banks, that of borrowing short-term and lending long-term, hitting profits and reducing lending—again, bad news for growth.

The market looks to be heating up again after the Fed paused its string of rate hikes, but layoffs are starting to pick up and forward-looking economic data is showing signs of a recession. Here is what to look out for this week. Photo: Tolga Akmen
The inverted curve could also help explain why the recession hasn’t—yet—hit. The combination of an inverted curve and falling stock prices put a lid on the postpandemic boom in corporate investment.

When the curve inverted before the 1990 and 2008-2009 recessions, corporate investment went up, as the economy went into a final growth phase. This time CEOs and CFOs with an eye on the curve might have exercised some caution, helping moderate the boom and so extending the period of growth. Rather than talk ourselves into recession, maybe we merely talked ourselves out of a boom.

The key lesson of the yield curve is that inversion doesn’t guarantee recession, but it is foolish to dismiss it.
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[size=8]U.S. Inflation, Consumer Spending Growth Cooled in May[/size]

Federal Reserve is still likely to consider July rate rise amid solid economy


WSJ

Consumer prices and spending rose more slowly in May, but the Federal Reserve likely remains on track to raise interest rates in July amid recent signs of healthy economic activity.

The Fed’s preferred inflation measure, the personal-consumption expenditures price index, rose 3.8% from a year earlier, its lowest reading in two years, the Commerce Department said Friday.

Household spending rose 0.1% in May but was flat when adjusted for inflation, a possible sign of flagging economic growth. Americans spent more on services such as healthcare and air travel, and less on goods such as autos.

“We are still seeing spending grow, it’s gradually losing momentum rather than falling out of bed,” Wells Fargo economist Shannon Seery said. She pointed to the strong labor market and robust household balance sheets, adding “this is really just a stalling at a very elevated level.”

So-called core prices, which exclude volatile food and energy categories, rose 4.6% in May from a year earlier, down slightly from 4.7% in April. Economists see core inflation as a better predictor of future inflation than overall inflation.

Senior Fed officials have focused attention this year on prices for a subset of services that exclude energy and shelter. They think these labor-intensive services could show whether wage pressures from tight labor markets are passing through to consumer prices, especially because they have expected price increases for housing and goods to slow.

That reading rose 0.2% in May from the prior month and 4.5% from a year earlier, according to Wall Street Journal calculations. The reading rose at a 3.9% annualized rate over the past three months, down from 5.3% over the three months before that.

Some officials say they have expected it would take more time for services inflation to decline but have been unsettled by slower progress bringing down goods inflation. Before the pandemic, goods inflation was usually flat or negative. Prices of goods, excluding food and energy, increased 2.6% in May and have been running near that level all year. “The puzzle has been why haven’t goods prices come down even more,” Chicago Fed President Austan Goolsbee said in a June 21 interview.

Inflation and economic activity haven’t eased as much during the first half of 2023 as Fed officials anticipated. Layoffs retreated last week, adding to evidence of a solid labor market. Economic growth was stronger than previously estimated in the first quarter, the government reported Thursday. Other recent data showed rising new-home sales, orders for long-lasting goods and consumer confidence.

Officials held the benchmark federal-funds rate steady in June, ending a string of 10 consecutive increases that lifted the rate to a range between 5% and 5.25%. In June, they penciled in two more increases this year.

Holding rates steady in June offered a way to further slow the pace of increases and better assess the effects of their moves, Fed Chair Jerome Powell said Thursday. “Our commitment isn’t to a particular number of rate hikes; it is to a stance of policy that’s sufficiently restrictive to bring inflation down to 2%,” he said.


Powell signaled greater uncertainty over how high rates would ultimately need to rise. Fed officials “almost overwhelmingly…think that we need to do more to get to a level of tight policy.”

Economists expect consumer spending to ease further in coming months in part because of higher interest rates and the resumption of student-debt payments.

Federal student-loan borrowers will see interest start accumulating again on Sept. 1, according to the Education Department, with payments due starting in October.

Households making those payments could see a significant reduction in the amount of money they can spend elsewhere. Wells Fargo estimates that the average monthly loan payments will be between $210 and $314, or a total of about $6 billion to $9 billion a month. The effect on the broader economy will be limited as those payments are relatively small compared with about $1.5 trillion in monthly consumer spending.

“Consumers are downshifting but still doing reasonably well,” said Joseph LaVorgna, chief economist at SMBC Nikko Securities.

Economists expect consumer spending to ease further in coming months.

“Consumers are downshifting but still doing reasonably well,” said Joseph LaVorgna, chief economist at SMBC Nikko Securities. He said higher interest rates and the resumption of student-debt payments would likely weigh on consumer spending.

Joel Breen, owner of JB’s Furniture in Milwaukee, said business has been “up and down” at his furniture store. “There’s an increase in financed sales,” he said, referring to customers using credit to make purchases. “The money just seems a little tighter right now.”

Some companies reporting earnings this week sounded a note of caution on consumer spending. Drugstore chain Walgreens Boots Alliance on Tuesday lowered its financial outlook for the year, citing weaker consumer spending. Lucky Charms maker General Mills said sales slipped in its most recent quarter as retailers trim their inventories.

Steven Ludsin, 74 years old, a lawyer in East Hampton, N.Y., said that while he generally feels good about his financial situation, high inflation has prompted him to reduce spending.

He is dining out less often, borrowing books from the library rather than buying them, and purchasing clothing on sale.

“On the lighter side, I find myself buying lottery tickets more regularly,” he said.
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The rolling recession still needs to broaden.
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What a surprise! "Consumers are downshifting" in the face of being made poorer by the higher cost of living brought on by inflation. Who woulda thunk?
The unanswered question in the article...who are the villains who caused that?

Remember HD...rolling recessions are transitory.
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The Richcession Keeps Rolling

The pandemic-triggered unwinding of inequality continues


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The chances that the U.S. will plunge into a recession this year are slipping. But the richcession? It’s still rolling.

The economy keeps chugging along, adding jobs and growing despite still-high inflation and Federal Reserve rate increases. But for many richer Americans, it probably feels like a recession has already begun.

The Commerce Department last Thursday revised higher its assessment of first-quarter gross domestic product—it now says GDP grew at a 2% annual rate, versus its previous estimate of 1.3%. Economists meanwhile are busy moving up their estimates for second-quarter GDP growth.

Yet while the better-off are, by definition, better off than the poor, they have been hit harder by layoffs, have been less able to secure wage increases that keep up with rising prices and have been more affected by the slump in profits that began to take hold last year. In other words, it is still looking like a richcession, where amid economic uncertainty, the rich feel more of the sting. And this, in turn, is beginning to have knock-on effects, with richer Americans reining in their spending relative to others.

Layoffs are still making headlines, and they are still disproportionately affecting higher-earning workers. By the count of outplacement company Challenger, Gray and Christmas, about one-third of layoffs announced by companies this year have come from tech firms such as Facebook parent Meta Platforms, where the median employee made $296,320 in 2022. Job cuts elsewhere have been aimed at higher-paid workers, such as at Ford Motor, where planned layoffs are concentrated in the engineering ranks. Meanwhile, overall layoffs have remained low. Labor Department figures showing that even though the number of people in the workforce is higher than before the pandemic, fewer people are receiving unemployment benefits.

In a recent analysis, economists at Bank of America Institute found that in the 30 states that directly deposit unemployment benefits into laid-off workers’ accounts, the number of benefit-recipients in households earning $125,000 a year or more was up 40% in April from a year earlier. This was more than five times the increase in households earning less than $50,000. Moreover, the 30-state sample might understate the increase in high-wage earners receiving unemployment benefits because it didn’t include California (which issues benefits via prepaid debit cards), home to many of the tech companies where layoffs have been concentrated.

A tight labor market and in-demand skills mean that many well-off workers who lose their jobs can probably find new jobs fairly quickly—but maybe not at the same level of pay. Meanwhile, labor demand from industries that employ lower-paid workers remains elevated, and that is helping drive wage gains. A wage tracker developed by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta shows that the 12-month moving average of annualized monthly wage growth for workers in the bottom quartile by income was 6.8% as of May, compared with 5.6% for workers in the top quartile. Economists David Autor, Arindrajit Dube and Annie McGrew estimate low-wage workers’ ability to switch into higher-paying jobs has unwound one-quarter of the wage inequality between top and bottom earners that built up in the four decades before the pandemic.

Wages aren’t the only way the rich make money, of course. Higher-paid workers often receive hefty bonuses, and in many cases these, too, have fallen. New York state reported that the average bonus paid to New York City securities-industry employees in 2022 was $176,700—still more than enough to buy an orchestra’s-worth of tiny violins, but down 26% from a year earlier, and after adjusting for inflation, below prepandemic levels.

Consider also variations in different kinds of income. In the first quarter, Commerce Department figures show that the overall level of compensation paid to U.S. employees was up 20.4% from the fourth quarter of 2019, driven by rising wages and employment. Transfer receipts—payments for Social Security, Medicare and the like—were up 28%, a reflection of baby-boomer-generation retirements plus many of these benefits’ cost-of-living adjustments to keep up with inflation. But proprietors’ income, which goes to sole business owners and partnerships such as law firms, was up a smaller 17%, while personal-income receipts on assets, such as dividends, were up just 9%. Of course, poor workers are more reliant on wages for income than richer ones, and poorer retirees are more reliant on Social Security payments than richer ones.

Constraints on the rich appear to be driving shifts in behavior. Bank of America Institute found that credit- and debit-card spending on discretionary items by higher-income households in April was below year-earlier levels, while spending for other households was up. That is consistent with reports from Walmart, which says it has been gaining market share among high-income customers, while spending on luxury goods by so-called aspirational shoppers has reportedly slowed. One reason this matters, points out Bank of America Institute senior economist David Tinsley, is that households in the top 40% of income account for more than 60% of spending.

A full-blown recession might or might not arrive. But the richcession could still place a drag on the overall economy in the meantime.
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Dude, Where's My Recession?

Almost everyone thought we’d get one, and yet here we are


WSJ by Paul Krugman

Almost a year has passed since the Bureau of Economic Analysis, which estimates gross domestic product, announced that real G.D.P. had declined over the previous two quarters — a phenomenon that is widely, although incorrectly, described as the official definition of a recession.

Right-wingers had a field day, crowing about the “Biden recession.” But it wasn’t just a partisan thing. Even forecasters who knew that recessions are defined by multiple indicators, and that America wasn’t in a recession yet, began predicting one in the near future. As Mark Zandi of Moody’s Analytics, one of the few prominent recession skeptics, put it: “Every person on TV says recession. Every economist says recession. I’ve never seen anything like it.”

By late 2022, members of the Federal Reserve committee that sets monetary policy were predicting an unemployment rate of 4.6 percent by late 2023; private forecasters were predicting 4.4 percent. Either of these forecasts would have implied at least a mild recession.

To be fair, we don’t know for sure that these predictions will be falsified. But with unemployment in June just 3.6 percent, the same as it was a year ago, and job growth still chugging away, the economy would have to fall off a steep cliff very soon to make them right, and there’s little hint in the data of that happening.

So it sure looks as if economists made a bad recession call. Why were they wrong?

One answer might be to ask why anyone would expect them to get it right. A few years ago the International Monetary Fund did a systematic study of the ability of economists to call recessions in advance, and basically found that they never succeed. As the authors noted wryly, there was little to choose between private and official forecasts: “Both are equally good at missing recessions.”


In a way, however, the I.M.F. study isn’t that relevant to what we’ve just seen. The authors found many examples of recessions that happened but that forecasters failed to predict; what we’re seeing now is a recession that forecasters predicted but failed to happen. So where did this almost unanimous but, as it turns out, unwarranted pessimism come from?

I know that at least some forecasters were looking at a certain financial indicator: the spread between short-term and long-term bonds. An inverted yield curve, in which long-term bonds pay lower interest than short-term, has historically predicted recessions, as becomes clear if you note the years in which that happened in the following chart:

But the meaning of an inverted yield curve is widely misunderstood. It doesn’t cause a recession. It is instead an implicit prediction about future Fed policy — namely, that the Fed will cut rates sharply in the future, presumably to fight a deepening recession. So the inverted yield curve wasn’t really independent evidence, just a market reflection of the same “recession is coming” consensus you were hearing on cable TV.

So where did that consensus come from? Leaving aside all the “Biden’s socialism will tank the economy” takes, I think it’s fair to say that most economists bought into the view that we were seeing a replay of the early 1980s. What happened then was that, faced with high inflation, the Fed sharply hiked interest rates, causing a recession; this recession brought inflation down, and the Fed then reversed course, cutting rates again:

Indeed, the Fed has, once again, raised rates sharply to fight inflation. But events since then have failed to follow the script in two distinct ways.

First, those rate hikes have so far failed to produce a recession. Instead, the economy has been remarkably resilient. Mortgage interest rates — arguably the most important place where the rubber of monetary policy meets the road — have soared over the past year and a half:

Yet unemployment hasn’t meaningfully gone up at all, which isn’t what most economists, myself included, would have predicted. Why not?

Part of the answer may be that housing demand surged in 2021-22, largely as a result of the rise in remote work, and that this increase in demand has muted the usual negative impact of higher rates. This is especially true for multifamily housing, where high rents have given developers an incentive to keep building despite higher borrowing costs.
Another part of the answer may be that the Biden administration’s industrial policies — in effect, subsidies for semiconductors and green energy — have led to a boom in nonresidential investment, especially manufacturing. The numbers here are truly startling:


There may be other factors as well, like all the “revenge travel” Americans have been doing as fear of Covid-19 fades. Whatever the reasons, the economy has shrugged off higher interest rates to an extent few expected.

Now, you might think that this means that the Fed will have to push interest rates even higher. After all, don’t we need a recession to curb inflation? But here’s the other place where things have gone off script: Despite steady job growth and continuing low unemployment, inflation has in fact subsided. This is true even if you look at measures that try to exclude transitory factors. My preferred measure these days is “supercore,” which excludes food, energy, used cars and shelter (because official measures of housing costs still reflect a rent surge that ended a year ago.):

This is the measure I’ll be looking at when new inflation numbers come in tomorrow. (P.S.: The Fed has a different measure of supercore — non-housing services — but when you look at the details of that indicator, it’s a dog’s breakfast of poorly measured components that I find hard to take seriously.)

[h]In any case, something really strange has happened. I can’t think of another example in which there was such a universal consensus that recession was imminent, yet the predicted recession failed to arrive.
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CPI Report Shows Inflation Eased to 3% in June

Fed officials are still likely to raise interest rates when they meet later this month


WSJ

U.S. inflation eased last month to its slowest pace in more than two years as underlying price pressures moderated more than expected.

The consumer-price index climbed 3% in June from a year earlier, the Labor Department said Wednesday, sharply lower than the recent peak of 9.1% in June 2022 and down from 4% in May. Inflation was last close to 3% in March 2021.

Still, inflation remains above the Federal Reserve’s 2% target. Fed officials have signaled that they are likely to raise interest rates to a 22-year high at their July 25-26 meeting, following recent signs of stronger-than-anticipated economic activity. Wednesday’s inflation report isn’t expected to change that outcome.

Last month officials kept their benchmark federal-funds rate in a range between 5% and 5.25%. That was their first pause after 10 consecutive increases since March 2022, when they raised it from near zero. Most of them in the June meeting penciled in two more hikes this year.

So-called core consumer prices, which exclude volatile food and energy categories, rose 4.8% in June from a year earlier, the slowest pace since October 2021 and down from 5.3% in May. Economists had estimated that core prices rose 5%.

Overall consumer prices increased a seasonally adjusted 0.2% in June from the prior month, compared with May’s 0.1% gain. Core consumer prices climbed 0.2%, the smallest one-month increase since August 2021, suggesting underlying price pressures are gradually easing. Prices for used cars and airfare fell sharply, while prices for car insurance and recreation rose. Rent increased in June, though at the slowest one-month pace since early 2022.

Fed officials are focused on cooling stubbornly high core inflation, and see core prices as a better predictor of future inflation than the overall inflation rate.

The Labor Department report could help strengthen the case of Fed officials who say the central bank has done enough for now to contain price pressures and that they should allow the effects of their cumulative increases to work their way through the economy.

Officials have two additional months of inflation data before their September policy meeting, providing time to see if Wednesday’s figures are the start of a meaningful trend in lower inflation.

Earlier increases in car prices, strong demand for labor-intensive services and an earlier surge in housing-rental prices have contributed to core inflation.

“Where inflation is proving sticky is in services—getting haircuts, getting your car repaired, buying car insurance,” said Leo Feler, chief economist at Numerator.

The U.S. economy has remained resilient this year, defying predictions of an economic downturn. Hiring slowed in June but was still strong, though consumer spending cooled in May compared with the prior month. U.S. economic output rose at a 2.3% annual rate during the recently ended second quarter, according to the Atlanta Fed’s most recent estimate.

While inflation is lower than a year ago, it continues to take a toll on many consumers.

Ali Salim, 34 years old, said rising prices for rent and gasoline have squeezed his budget. His landlord raised the rent 24% last year on his one-bedroom apartment in a Seattle suburb, then another 10% this year, he said.

Salim said he decided to move to a new, smaller apartment, which has fewer amenities and is 8 miles further away from the office where he works as a solutions architect at a tech company.

“I’m going to have to drive further and spend a bit more on gas, which is another pain point,” he said. Washington state has the highest gasoline prices in the nation at an average of $4.96 a gallon of regular unleaded, according to OPIS, an energy-data and analytics provider, well above the national average of $3.54 a gallon.

Salim said increased expenses leave him saving about 40% of his salary, compared with about 60% before the rent increase last year.

“My goal was to own a home within the next five years,” he said. “With me saving so much less, I don’t know if I’ll be able to do that.”
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Krugman! The old loner LEFT-WING NEO-KEYNESIAN SEER sits in his Manhattan apartment reading the tea leaves, detached from the real world that the little people experience every day. He probably doesn't even own a car.
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Krugman completely missed that we have been in a rolling recession for a year.

I expect as much from him. Just glad to see he has still managed to stay employed.
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He’s old guard and hasn’t got popped in any of the woke traps, it’s based off of attrition not knowledge. He’s not right like a broken clock, he’s more like right as much as a clock with a bad battery. A shade better than twice a day.
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Big-Bank Earnings Show Signs of Soft Landing

Profits from JPMorgan, Wells Fargo make it easy to forget there was a banking crisis this year



WSJ

The biggest U.S. banks presented a picture of a resilient economy on Friday, with consumers and businesses continuing to spend and borrow even after a lightning-fast rise in interest rates.

JPMorgan Chase’s profit soared 67% in the second quarter from a year earlier and Wells Fargo’s WFC -0.34%decrease; red down pointing triangle jumped 57%, lifted by the income they earned lending out money at higher rates. Citigroup’s C -4.05%decrease; red down pointing triangle net interest income was a bright spot, though profit fell 36%. All three banks beat analysts’ expectations for profit and revenue.

The three banks collectively grew their loan books from a year earlier, thanks partly to an increase in credit-card balances, which padded revenues. The banks lifted their forecasts for their 2023 lending profits, proof they don’t expect to see a major shift in borrowing or deposits.

Analysts and investors largely agree that the economy has been slowing since the Federal Reserve began lifting rates last year. Still, Friday’s results made it easy to forget there was a banking crisis this year.

The higher interest rates that pushed Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank and First Republic Bank to failure have largely been a benefit for the megabanks, which all attracted customers reaching for safety. JPMorgan’s purchase of First Republic, with government aid, boosted its consumer and commercial businesses and gave the bank an immediate $2.7 billion gain.

When JPMorgan Chase bought First Republic Bank in May, all eyes were on its CEO, Jamie Dimon. Here’s how the executive’s strategy for managing risk propelled him to the top of the banking world. Photo illustration: John McColgan
The picture could be less rosy for smaller and midsize lenders, which will start reporting results next week. While banks of all sizes are paying more in interest to keep yield-hungry customers from yanking their deposits, the extra expense can be hard on smaller banks.

Bank stocks have diverged this year. JPMorgan, Wells Fargo and Citi are all up in 2023. Friday, JPMorgan rose 0.6%, while Wells Fargo fell 0.3% and Citigroup dropped 4%. The broader KBW Nasdaq Bank Index is down 18% for the year and fell Friday, a sign that investors are worried about smaller banks’ deposit costs.

Some regional banks have lowered their second-quarter earnings forecasts in recent weeks, saying they underestimated how much they would have to shell out on deposits.

While executives at all three big banks said they continue to believe the economy is strong, especially when looking at U.S. consumers, they all cautioned there is too much uncertainty to be sure of the future.

Borrowing from banks is picking up steam from its pandemic lull. WSJ’s Telis Demos explains why it’s coming just in time to offset some of the pinch banks are feeling from higher interest rates. Photo: Angus Mordant/Bloomberg
“I don’t know whether it’s going to be a soft landing, a mild recession or a hard recession,” JPMorgan Chief Executive Jamie Dimon told reporters.

Loan defaults increased slightly but remain historically low. The big banks set aside some money for potential future defaults, particularly in commercial real estate, but the charges weren’t as large as what they took when anticipating steep economic declines.

Bankers and regulators say that the March crisis has receded, and recent economic data has spurred hopes the worst-case economic scenarios they feared won’t materialize.

The optimism is showing up in markets too, with investors embracing risk-on trades they had avoided for much of 2022. Megacap tech stocks are up, with the Nasdaq Composite just wrapping up its best first half to a year since the 1980s. Bitcoin rose more than 80% in the first half of the year, even though regulators sued the biggest crypto exchanges.

“The U.S. economy continues to perform better than many expected and although there will likely be continued economic slowing and uncertainty remains, it is quite possible the range of scenarios will narrow over the next few quarters,” Wells Fargo CEO Charlie Scharf said on a call with analysts.

JPMorgan, Wells Fargo and Citi together earned $49 billion in net interest income last quarter, up 31% from a year earlier, as loans increased and they charged more for them.

Americans Are Borrowing Again, Which Is Great News for Big Lenders
Customers at all three banks spent more on their credit cards, and more borrowers carried over balances each month. Loans to businesses were up at JPMorgan and Wells Fargo.

Even mortgage originations, which are heavily impacted by rates, increased from earlier in the year at Wells and JPMorgan, though they remained down sharply from a year ago.

“Overall, I’d say we are seeing a more cautious consumer, but not necessarily a recessionary one,” Citi CEO Jane Fraser said.

But the going is getting tougher even for the big banks.

All three banks had to pay more to depositors to keep them from moving money into higher-yielding money-market funds, after years of paying next to nothing on consumer checking accounts.

And customers still pulled money. Deposits fell 3% from a year earlier at JPMorgan and 6% at Wells Fargo. They were roughly flat at Citi.

Those results spooked investors across the banking sector, where smaller and less-diversified banks have a harder time offsetting those costs. Regional banks slumped Friday and custody banks State Street and Bank of New York Mellon dropped sharply.

Meanwhile, loans might sour as well if higher rates take a bigger toll on consumers and businesses.

“We’re still very early in the cycle. This is going to play out over an extended period,” said Mike Santomassimo, Wells Fargo’s chief financial officer, on a call with reporters. The bank set aside nearly $1 billion to cover expected bad loans, largely in commercial real estate.

JPMorgan executives characterized the slight increase in loan defaults as more historically normal, not a concerning deterioration.

Banks also are becoming more selective about the loans they make. “The economy has slowed, and we’ve taken some credit tightening actions,” Scharf said on the analyst call.

Wall Street businesses remained in the doldrums. Investment banking, which includes fees from mergers and selling corporate stock and debt, fell 6% from a year earlier at JPMorgan and 24% at Citi. Trading declined 10% at JPMorgan and 13% at Citi.

“People should feel that the economy is on a pretty solid footing, which is surprising given the pace of interest rate hikes,” said Jean Rosenbaum, senior portfolio manager at GYL Financial Synergies.
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You guys make no distinction between: reported known facts; wide spread consensus or formula conclusions based on fact; fact based opinion and pure opinion. Who amongst you even has a real background or education in social or bossiness economics??
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rfenst wrote:
You guys make no distinction between: reported known facts; wide spread consensus or formula conclusions based on fact; fact based opinion and pure opinion. Who amongst you even has a real background or education in social or bossiness economics??


Well being on the front line of the supply chain I think I know a thing or two about economics. I know that fright rates suck. In fact, we are in a period of all time low spot transportation rates. In addition, store shelves have many more empty spots than this time a few years ago.

Then consider the fact that many meat packing plants are running behind. I go to about 8-10 Tyson pork processing plants. I also haul from few IBP and Cargill beef plants as well as a number of Sanderson Farms chicken plants. These are some of the largest meat packing plants in the US. Since Christmas of 2021 I have yet to leave on time. In fact, I’m still waiting on a load of chicken that was supposed to be ready day before yesterday.

From this one can draw a few conclusions. First, unemployment numbers are based off claims made. Unfortunately, it does not measure the true number of unemployed because it doesn’t take into account those that stopped filing for unemployment benefits regardless of the reason. So that particular stat has to be taken with a grain of salt.

The supply chain has shrunk. That is evidenced by the fact that a) store shelves have less product; b) those shelves are lighter because product isn’t being shipped at a rate fast enough to replenish and c) freight rates are down because there are fewer loads because there is fewer product to move. But, before one goes thinking that the reason rates are down is be a there are more trucks on the road than last year it would be wise to consider that there are 11,000 fewer active operating authorities (ie CMV federal registrations) than at this time last year.
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rfenst wrote:
You guys make no distinction between: reported known facts; wide spread consensus or formula conclusions based on fact; fact based opinion and pure opinion. Who amongst you even has a real background or education in social or bossiness economics??



What are you complaining about?

You don't need to be a rocket surgeon to know that prices have soared, sizes have decreased and wages haven't risen...Pedo Joe mumbles and stumbles about his great recovery. Telling people to go back to jobs that they were locked out of isn't "job creation". Those numbers have been cooked so many times that all you have to do is employ common sense and see the people suffering out and about.

Paul Krugman is an idiot. Touting his failed policies and articles is propaganda. The Federal Reserve is a swindle.
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Bidenomics won't save us, it won't “restore the American Dream”, it's not "saving the soul of America".

Bidenomics is anti-free market top-down meddling in the economy by politicians, bureaucrats, banksters and other cronies who only care about stuffing their pockets with loot and sticking it to the rest of us.

Bidenomics is nothing more than barfing up more socialism and fascism as its means to its Utopian ends.

You don't have to be an economist to smell the stench, to see the cracks, you can fudge all the numbers you want and pretty them up, we've seen this movie before, we know how it ends.

You've got to be dumb as Bidenomics to believe government can run like a business, and run the economy.

I still remember vividly the supposed facts, and wide spread consensus by the experts that "the economy is strong" just before the 2008 crash.


Bidenomics Is Yet Another Version of Failed Industrial Policy

07/12/2023 Connor O'Keeffe

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On June 28, President Joe Biden took to the stage in Chicago to drum up support for his economic agenda, which his own team has taken to calling “Bidenomics.” The speech was part of a broader publicity tour, “Investing in America,” with the president and his cabinet traveling the country trying to get the American people to see Biden’s economic policies as successful and popular.

In his speech, the president attacked so-called trickle-down economics, which he painted as the dominant economic policy of the American government for decades. He then defined his agenda, Bidenomics, as a “new philosophy” set to “restore the American Dream.”

But Bidenomics isn’t a new philosophy. If you look at what’s been enacted and what’s still being proposed, it becomes clear that all Biden is doing is ramping up the federal government’s industrial policy. And industrial policy has, unfortunately, been around for a long time—as have its effects. When governments pursue industrial policies, they attempt a form of entrepreneurship. And in doing so, they divert scarce resources and capital away from the production of goods and services that people actually want, freed from the feedback of the market. Bidenomics won’t restore the American Dream but will do it damage.

All the fancy, focus-group-approved economic talking points the administration is now spamming us with begin to unravel when one understands basic economic truths. Chief among these truths is that the economy is a process—not a state of being. Specifically, it’s a process for producing goods and services that satisfy the needs and wants of consumers. Every part of every line of production is a means toward that end.

More...

https://mises.org/wire/bidenomics-yet-another-version-failed-industrial-policy

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Abrignac wrote:
From this one can draw a few conclusions. First, unemployment numbers are based off claims made. Unfortunately, it does not measure the true number of unemployed because it doesn’t take into account those that stopped filing for unemployment benefits regardless of the reason. So that particular stat has to be taken with a grain of salt.


Sometimes economic measurements of the economy can be irrelevant, other times relevant. And then, sometimes, estimates which obviously aren't precise- are merely relied upon as indicators, not scientific gospel. "unemployment claims" is a good example of the latter.

It is just one of many measurements that has been long-defined and used. Change it (just because it doesn't measure everything you want it to the way you want it to) and you start comparing only "apples to oranges."

Instead, it would be best to define, develop and use, more than one type of measure of unemployment- and compare them against themselves historically; and against one another -to determine which analytics fit any given scenario/or time period the best. No such thing as perfect.

Social economics is not a precise science. But, one good measure of the job market would entail looking at job openings compared to the unemployed potential labor pool.

I pretty much think anyone who wants to work now can find a job. But, there seem to be a true shortages of labor in the economy, regardless how one measures unemployment.

I look at multiple sources that come from different perspectives and look for trends within them to make guestimates about the future of the economy. It is a little "crystal-ball" like because nothing in economic history guarantees what will happen in the future.
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That reminds me I should have gotten my degree in bloviating then I could be an accepted speaker……at least on a discount cigar forum.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
That reminds me I should have gotten my degree in bloviating then I could be an accepted speaker……at least on a discount cigar forum.

You are not qualified.

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Damn it!!
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Damn it!!


Z, you will never be another Paul Krugman. Mellow Sad
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rfenst wrote:
You guys make no distinction between: reported known facts; wide spread consensus or formula conclusions based on fact; fact based opinion and pure opinion. Who amongst you even has a real background or education in social or bossiness economics??


I barely made it out of the 6th grade.
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rfenst wrote:
You are not qualified.




Oops! Sorry Jammie.

Here is what I wa ht I was thinking when I posted above: “You can’t handle the truth. You can’t handle the sad but historic reality.”


Jack Nicholson- A few Good Men)
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I get the context already 🤣
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I get the context already 🤣


So, I guess Robert was saying you can’t handle the truths of Paul Krugman.Laugh
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Paul Krugman is an idiot.
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No Robert was flicking me crap and I knew it…. I had it coming.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
No Robert was flicking me crap and I knew it…. I had it coming.

But, I wasn't trying to insult you. Just got the sarcasm wrong...
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Economists Are Cutting Back Their Recession Expectations

Forecasters still expect GDP to eventually contract, but later, and by less, than previously


WSJ

Easing inflation, a still-strong labor market and economic resilience led business and academic economists polled by The Wall Street Journal to lower the probability of a recession in the next 12 months to 54% from 61% in the prior two surveys.

While that probability is still high by historical comparison, it represents the largest month-over-month percentage-point drop since August 2020, as the economy was recovering from a short but sharp recession induced by the Covid-19 pandemic. It reflects the fact that the economy has kept growing even as the Federal Reserve has raised interest rates and inflation declined.

In the latest WSJ survey, economists expected gross domestic product to have grown at a 1.5% annual rate in the second quarter, a sharp uptick from 0.2% in the previous survey. They still expect GDP to eventually contract, but later, and by less, than previously. They expect the economy to grow 0.6% in the third quarter, in contrast to the 0.3% contraction expected in the prior survey, followed by a 0.1% contraction in the fourth. Forecasters said GDP would increase 1% in 2023, measured from the fourth quarter of a year earlier, double the previous forecast of 0.5%.

Nearly 60% of economists said their main reason for optimism about the economic outlook is their expectation that inflation will continue to slow. The Labor Department’s consumer-price index climbed 3% in June from a year earlier, sharply lower than the peak of 9.1% in June 2022 and the slowest in more than two years. The Fed’s preferred inflation measure—the annual change in the personal-consumption expenditures price index excluding food and energy—has fallen from 5.4% in March 2022 to 4.6% in May. Economists expect it to reach 3.7% by the fourth quarter of this year, though that is still well above the Fed’s 2% target.

Pathway to a soft landing
Many economists first began in the middle of last year to project a recession when persistently high inflation prompted the Fed to raise rates at the most aggressive pace in nearly three decades. Historically, lowering the inflation rate materially has always involved higher unemployment and a downturn, and few economists thought this time would be different.

Now, a pathway to achieve a “soft landing,” or getting inflation down without a recession, is “back on the table,” said Sean Snaith, the director of the University of Central Florida’s Institute for Economic Forecasting. “At the beginning of this year it seemed more of a pipe dream,” said Snaith. Now, “it seems a recession keeps slipping, slipping, slipping into the future.” Snaith has lowered the probability of recession to 45% from 90% in April.

On average, economists still expect the labor market will lose 10,551 jobs a month in the first quarter of 2024, broadly unchanged from their previous forecast. But unlike in the April survey, economists no longer expect job cuts in the third and fourth quarter of this year. They expect employers will add jobs in the second and third quarters of next year, suggesting any downturn will be mild.

“Inflation has slowed remarkably already, and we believe will continue to do so because spending growth is slowing substantially and the growth in labor force is helping service providers,” said Luke Tilley, chief economist at Wilmington Trust.

Still, stronger-than-expected economic growth this year will also likely result in the Fed keeping interest rates higher for longer, according to the Journal survey.

Economists expected the midpoint of the range for the federal-funds rate will peak at 5.4% in December, up sharply from a 5% forecast in the last survey. The latest prediction implies at least one more 25-basis-point increase by the Fed.

More rate increases, later rate cuts
The Fed last month held its benchmark federal-funds rate steady in a range between 5% and 5.25%, its first pause after 10 consecutive increases since March 2022. Market participants overwhelmingly expect the central bank will raise rates by a quarter-percentage point at its July 25-26 meeting, according to the federal-funds futures market.

Economists are also pushing back their estimates for when the Fed will eventually start cutting rates. In the latest survey, only 10.6% of economists expected a rate cut in the second half of this year, down from 36.8% in the last survey. The majority of economists, nearly 79%, expected the Fed will cut rates in the first half of 2024 as the unemployment rate rises. Some 42.4% expected that first cut will come in the second quarter.

Economists are relatively sanguine about the impact of the end of the government’s pandemic-era pause on student-debt payments, which allowed millions of Americans to avoid a big monthly bill for more than three years.

The resumption of student-loan payments is expected to have a relatively minor impact this fall, shaving 0.2 percentage points, annualized, from consumer spending growth, measured from the third quarter to the fourth quarter of this year.

“We will likely see some slowing in spending growth toward the end of this year as a result of the resumed payments denting certain households’ ability to consume, but we do not think the end to the payment pause will be widespread enough to have a significant effect on overall U.S. household spending,” said Wells Fargo chief economist Jay Bryson.

The survey of 69 economists was conducted July 7-12. Not every economist answered every question.
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Markets Appear Convinced the Fed Can Pull Off a Soft Landing
Stocks surged this past week on evidence that inflation is cooling


WSJ
Wall Street is more convinced than ever that inflation is subsiding.

That’s giving investors hope that the Federal Reserve might be able to pull off what once seemed impossible: containing pricing pressures without tipping the economy into recession.

The economic data that came out this past week could hardly have been better. The consumer-price index, which tracks prices for everything from used cars to groceries, rose in June at the slowest year-over-year pace in more than two years. Inflation in wholesale prices cooled even more. An index measuring the prices fetched in June by warehouses, factories, farms and energy producers rose at its slowest pace since August 2020.

The reports should help ease what has been one of investors’ biggest fears over the past year. The Fed has been rapidly raising interest rates to try to rein in inflation. Many money managers have worried that the Fed’s moves would lead to a recession. That is because when interest rates go up, so does the cost of borrowing money. That typically slows down spending and hiring among consumers and businesses—often to the point that the economy tips into a downturn.

The longer it takes for the Fed to bring inflation back to prepandemic levels, the more likely a recession seems. If inflation cools quickly enough, however, investors believe the Fed might be able to finish its interest-rate increases while leaving the economic expansion intact.

That’s exactly what markets seem to be pricing in.

The S&P 500 rose 2.4% this past week, its biggest gain in a month. The index is up 17% for the year, while the Nasdaq Composite, which heavily weights technology stocks, has risen 35%.

The yield on the 10-year U.S. Treasury note, used to help set everything from mortgage rates to student loans, ended Friday at 3.818%, compared with 4.047% the previous week. That marked its biggest one-week slide since March.

“We all thought there would be a hurricane, but it hasn’t come yet,” said Brad Conger, deputy chief investment officer at Hirtle Callaghan.

This coming week, investors will get a look at fresh data on retail sales and existing-home sales, as well as earnings from companies including Morgan Stanley, United Airlines Holdings and Tesla.

Parts of the economy have undeniably slowed. The housing market, for example, has cooled. The median price for existing homes being sold around the country fell 3.1% in May from the previous year, the biggest decline since 2011, according to the National Association of Realtors. The manufacturing industry has weakened too. At the start of the month, data from the Institute for Supply Management showed activity in the manufacturing sector contracted in June for an eighth consecutive month.

But the fact remains that, so far, the overall economy has evaded recession. The biggest U.S. banks posted better-than-expected results Friday, thanks to consumers and businesses continuing to spend and borrow money in the second quarter.

Generally good economic news has kept the market climbing.

“Earnings have been resilient, and inflation is less of a problem,” Conger said. “When you put those two things together, yeah, the market…it should be up.”

If the Fed ends up raising interest rates just one more time, as traders currently expect, and the economy keeps on chugging along, markets might have more room to climb, investors and analysts say.

What could go wrong, then?

The obvious answer is that the Fed decides inflation hasn’t come down enough to stop tightening monetary policy, and surprises investors by continuing to raise interest rates past July, said Rhys Williams, chief strategist at Spouting Rock Asset Management.

“Clearly the market is saying that inflation has peaked, the Fed is looking through the rearview mirror, and the incremental news is going to just keep getting better…but the data suggests the Fed might have to keep going for a while,” Williams said.

The Fed’s preferred inflation measure, the personal-consumption expenditures price index, rose 3.8% in May from a year earlier. That was the slowest pace in two years but still well above the central bank’s 2% inflation target.

Another risk is that economic momentum falters. Some indicators—such as the bond market’s yield curve, and the Conference Board’s leading economic index—have been at levels that have historically signaled recessions for months.

“We still think it’s coming,” said Jason Ware, chief investment officer of Albion Financial Group, regarding a recession. A downturn would likely hit corporate profits, sending stocks lower once again, he added.

The biggest worry some investors have is that they simply run out of reasons to keep pushing stock prices higher.

At this point, it seems as though the market has already priced in the good news: that inflation is less of a problem than investors feared, and that economic growth has at the same time been more resilient than investors anticipated, Conger said.

“It’s hard to see what will make the market go to even higher levels,” he added.
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What Markets Are Saying About the Fight Against Inflation

Investors greet inflation progress with cautious optimism


WSJ
New signs of cooling inflation sparked market gains last week. But is the pain from inflation—and the Federal Reserve’s interest-rate-raising campaign to fight it—really over?

Here is what market gauges are showing:

Investors have long expected inflation to fall back to the Fed’s 2% target relatively quickly, a bet that is starting to look better now than it did a few months ago.

Past moments of optimism have met with disappointment. The Fed has repeatedly raised its own interest-rate forecasts since early 2022. Investors have often been hesitant to follow suit but have ultimately been dragged along for the ride.

The Fed’s preferred inflation measure—the core personal-consumption expenditures price index, which strips out volatile food and energy items—stood at 4.6% in May, still well above its 2% target. But there have been signs of progress, with even some easing in non-energy or housing services—a key category for the Fed sometimes known as “supercore” inflation.

One note of caution for investors is that progress on inflation has come despite a very tight labor market. Many believe that wage increases, in particular, will need to subside for inflation to come fully under control.

Investors do expect interest rates to fall in the coming years, but their forecasts don’t necessarily include a recession.

The Fed’s benchmark federal-funds rate is expected to fall gradually over the next decade to a long-term level that neither stimulates nor slows growth, according to an analysis of Treasury yields by Benson Durham at Piper Sandler. By comparison, Australian bond yields suggest a more concerted effort to boost the economy over the next couple of years, with rates dipping below their long-term expected level before climbing back later in the decade.
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If we didn't have a central bank with its fiat money and interest rate setting monopoly, inflation and corruption wouldn't be such a big problem. History proves it but people are dumb.

A Permanent Engine of Corruption

By Thomas DiLorenzo
New American 07/31/2023

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The Federal Reserve System is not America’s first central bank. Central banking may be anathema to sound money, but it’s an almost-permanent blight on America.

The American Revolution was a war of secession from the British empire and its corrupt economic system of “mercantilism.” A set of policies that benefited politically connected businesses at the expense of their customers, British mercantilism involved protectionist trade policy that eliminated foreign competition and raised prices, government grants of monopoly to politically connected businesses, bailouts and subsidies to the same, heavy taxes and public debt, and the treatment of its subjects in the Colonies as tax slaves and cannon fodder for its imperialistic ventures. All of this was financed by the British central bank, the Bank of England.

As soon as the Revolution was over, the “nationalists” in American politics, known as the Federalists, sought to impose this very system on Americans. They were led by Philadelphia businessman Robert Morris, a native of Liverpool, England, who became very wealthy as what we would today call a defense contractor during the Revolution, with the help of his political frontman, young Alexander Hamilton. Morris was the first “superintendent of finance,” which would later be called the secretary of the treasury. Some believe he was the wealthiest man in America at the time.

The apparent thinking of the Morris/Hamilton Federalists was that it was a bad thing to be on the paying end of a mercantilist empire, even worth fighting a bloody revolution to escape. But it was a good thing to be on the money-making, tax-collecting, and wealth-creating end of an empire.

As explained by Murray Rothbard in The Mystery of Banking, Morris, Hamilton, and the other nationalists, mostly from New York, Philadelphia, and New England, wanted

"to reimpose in the new United States a system of mercantilism and big government similar to that in Great Britain, against which the colonists had rebelled. The object was to have a strong central government, particularly a strong president or king as chief executive, built up by high taxes and heavy public debt. The strong government was to impose high tariffs to subsidize domestic manufacturers, develop a big navy to open up and subsidize foreign markets for American exports, and launch a massive system of internal public works. In short, the United States was to have a British system without Great Britain."

An important part of what Rothbard called “The Morris scheme” was “to organize and head a central bank, to provide cheap credit and expanded money for himself and his allies” and to “subsidize their businesses in other ways.... The Bank of North America [America’s first central bank] was deliberately modeled after the Bank of England.”

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