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Florida now constitutional carry
Brewha Offline
#51 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
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MACS wrote:
No argument here...

Your expertise and practice of incompetence is well documented.

Show us the way, Spanky!
Brewha Offline
#52 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Everyone could use a third hole.

Well….Gene is a “third hole” kind guy….
Abrignac Offline
#53 Posted:
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Gene363 wrote:
The training requirement is another feel-good face for firearm restrictions. South Carolina went through a hand-wringing period over this issue that held up CC reciprocity with Georgia permit holders. Georgia requires no training, period, just a background check. The South Carolina Sherrif's Association was the holdup, I was personally involved in a small way. Thank goodness Georgia and South Carolina permit holders can cross our common border while carrying.

Regarding training, most members of law enforcement, special units excepted, are not that well trained, if they even receive any training at all. I've seen some at our local ranges, so I do have some personal experience. I made the point to the Sherriff's association by asking the question, "Do you believe the 8-hour class, required by SC to get a permit, can make anyone a gun expert?" I also pointed out that if Georgia "untrained" CC holders were shooting up the landscape or in any way involved in gun incidents/accidents, the anti-gun media would be all over it screaming the sky was falling.


I think if you dove into that a little deeper you’d find that to be false. Perhaps your state doesn’t train their officers but, I suspect that to be the exception, not the rule. I know when I was a LEO I spent at least one day a month in training. The Louisiana POST Council has very high annual training requirements. I’m sure we are not the only state that does either.
MACS Offline
#54 Posted:
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No, I would have to say Gene is spot on. I went through a hell of a lot more training in the Navy. After the brief training on weapons in the academy, the only thing the PD's and Sheriff's departments do, and it's mostly for liability purposes, is quarterly proficiency qualifications.

That's not training. That's just to make sure you can still point it and pull the trigger and mostly hit what you're aiming at.

In the Navy we went through a lot more. Granted, your everyday sailor isn't going through the weapons training that I did, but LE absolutely should.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#55 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Well….Gene is a “third hole” kind guy….



Speaking of third hole...how's that fart car? What did you buy again...the Sphincter GT model?
Gene363 Offline
#56 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
I think if you dove into that a little deeper you’d find that to be false. Perhaps your state doesn’t train their officers but, I suspect that to be the exception, not the rule. I know when I was a LEO I spent at least one day a month in training. The Louisiana POST Council has very high annual training requirements. I’m sure we are not the only state that does either.


You're correct on training, I should have been more specific, the "training" I was referring to was firearm training, actual gun handling. Budget constraints and ammunition shortages contribute to the problem. I'm not picking on LEOs, I've met dedicated individuals on shooting ranges doing their own training, both good and some frankly terrifyingly bad, e.g., walking out to check a target on a live range.

My actual point was that an eight hour class for CC carriers, is not going to make them into a pistolero, so issuing CC permits to people with no training requirement is not any worse, e.g., Georgia. Worst of all, when the government has control of training, they can/will manipulate requirements to screw over citizens and take away their rights.
Brewha Offline
#57 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Speaking of third hole...how's that fart car? What did you buy again...the Sphincter GT model?

The last guy to sell you a car was Ben Dover.
corey sellers Offline
#58 Posted:
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They need it honestly .
Homebrew Offline
#59 Posted:
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For the most part, I consider myself center left. I used to consider myself center right, but the right has gone fricken crazy. I am a gun owner. In fact I consider myself to be a gun enthusiast. I have many firearms, and a buttload of Ammo. I have a bolt action 6.5 creedmore, with a 26" Bull barrel, that I am ringing 6" steel, at 800 meters. I have many handguns, including may favorite carry piece, a Sig P226, chambered in 357 sig, as well as a drop in 40 cal. barrel. I have built, several AR 15s, and an AR 10. My bedside gun is a Taurus Judge, chambered in 3 inch magnum 410. I have it loaded with PDX1 which has 4 discs, followed by #4 shot. I think this is the best bed-side gun, because I don't need to look for my glasses, to hit a target, with a fricken shotgun. But for the most part, I believe in a libertarian mindset, but not so radical as to think taxation is theft. But now we are getting too far into politics, which belongs on a different forum. Damn, I need a beer.
Dave A.K.A. (Homebrew)Beer
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#60 Posted:
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Homebrew wrote:
For the most part, I consider myself center left. I used to consider myself center right, but the right has gone fricken crazy. I am a gun owner. In fact I consider myself to be a gun enthusiast. I have many firearms, and a buttload of Ammo. I have a bolt action 6.5 creedmore, with a 26" Bull barrel, that I am ringing 6" steel, at 800 meters. I have many handguns, including may favorite carry piece, a Sig P226, chambered in 357 sig, as well as a drop in 40 cal. barrel. I have built, several AR 15s, and an AR 10. My bedside gun is a Taurus Judge, chambered in 3 inch magnum 410. I have it loaded with PDX1 which has 4 discs, followed by #4 shot. I think this is the best bed-side gun, because I don't need to look for my glasses, to hit a target, with a fricken shotgun. But for the most part, I believe in a libertarian mindset, but not so radical as to think taxation is theft. But now we are getting too far into politics, which belongs on a different forum. Damn, I need a beer.
Dave A.K.A. (Homebrew)Beer

as a center lefty, makes sense to me.

Welcome back.
Still cooking?
ZRX1200 Offline
#61 Posted:
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My libertarian posts are just a sham, I so [email protected] the gun nut Homebrew…….

Hehe. Good to see you posting bro.
Homebrew Offline
#62 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
as a center lefty, makes sense to me.

Welcome back.
Still cooking?

Some,
Mostly for myself, and a few friends.
While I do miss cooking for a living, I sure like the money generated by my trucking business, better than being somewhat broke.
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)Beer
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#63 Posted:
Joined: 09-02-2022
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Illinois here is still one of the tightest states in the nation with gun owners required to have a FOID card for gun and ammo purchases. Illinois does not Honor out of State CC's (so keep that in mind if your traveling through and get pulled over for speeding?) if your birthdate is after 1986 you are required to have obtained a Hunter Safety Course to even apply for a FOID card. If your DL is revocked for even Child Support you are required to surrender your FOID card and Illinois is also very Vigilant on the Red Flag Law to confiscate your weapons... last year with our beef with our Neighbors the local Chief of Police issued us a Criminal Trespass warning to the Mrs. and I... I had him come and explain why such a warning when clearly the neighbors did not have signs posted nor any warning to us to not be in their yard at anytime? he chuckled and said well they have you on camera digging in their yard and walking through the backyard? I said I was digging at the Survey stake thats between the two properties and I had a measuring wheel I rolled across the back property lines between them and the other neighbors stakes. I said well your going to be a busy man, he says how do I figure that? I said well with no signs posted any tom ****** or harry come walking down the street and into their yard, your going to have to write them a ticket.. he say's it doesn't work that way. I said the Hell it shouldn't unless your singling us out? a few weeks later the Mrs. and I were ticketed in our own back yard for Disorderly Conduct for having a bon fire in the back yard at 9:30 at night.. the noise abatement ordinance is 11:30... however the neighbors camera's (audio/video btw) was 15 ft. from where I'd used gasoline to light the fire and the poof from fumes woke the baby up inside the house some 60+ feet away with windows to the house closed up... we installed camera's and twice I went to this Chief to complain and he would not even look at the video of them trespassing in the second video I started to play in his office he blew up at me where you could hear the neighbor telling me he's going to beat my Arse?? he didn't and wouldn't listen to my complaint on either occasion but then said I understand your a combat vet, and if you ever need a ride to the VA he'd be available to take me... I said Chief, just what are you implying here? I own my 07 Harley, I own my 2001 Lincoln town car, I own my 2006 F-150 pick-up, my wife owns her 2008 Jeep Grand Cherokee titles are all locked in the safe, if I need a ride to the VA as your suggesting? I'm sure I'll get there and for the record and I'm sure you have looked it up... I've got a cleaner record then you have!!!!!!!
MACS Offline
#64 Posted:
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Sheriff Grady Judd weighs in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDlalcg1_Dg
Gene363 Offline
#65 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Sheriff Grady Judd weighs in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDlalcg1_Dg


Sheriff Grady is a national treasure.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#66 Posted:
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Gene363 wrote:
Sheriff Grady is a national treasure.



Just don't EVER get in-between him and some cameras!!!
Gene363 Offline
#67 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Just don't EVER get in-between him and some cameras!!!


Sage advice.
rfenst Offline
#68 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Just don't EVER get in-between him and some cameras!!!


So true. A self-aggrandizing mouth-piece who should just shut up and keep busting pedophiles and criminals.

I happen to like Volusia's Sherriff Mike Chitwood. 110% up-front; not a media whore and gets the job done timely and thoroughly explaining situations and updates to the public.
Speyside2 Offline
#69 Posted:
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Illinois has many problems.
ZRX1200 Offline
#70 Posted:
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Especially their Nazis. They’re the worst. I hate em.
ZRX1200 Offline
#71 Posted:
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Also pretty sure Illinois is one of the states that you’re not allowed to have a third hole drilled.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#72 Posted:
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As someone who's disturbed a neighbor two with a gasoline poof, what you want to do is crumple some paper on top of your wood pile, stick a solo cup in the middle of it half filled with gas, light the paper. As the cup melts, nice peaceful liquid fire pours down onto the wood
Brewha Offline
#73 Posted:
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I hate Illinois Nazis.

And Pomeranians...
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